my husband had both for a few years, they would help for a while, he ended up having the back surgery, had 2 disc removed, the recovery was long, but he is so much better now.... his doctor tried everything on him before going to surgery. it was a last resort, but my husband was in so much pain, and he could not even bend over to tie his shoes, and could not get comfortable at all while trying to sleep.
he has said he is glad he had the surgery, no more pain meds, or shots, and he can do just about anything he did before his back issues.
for him the surgery was the best thing. n