Will the real BILL HEATH please stand up?

[Mason Rountree]

In his official Senate biography, Senator Bill Heath claims that he is "self-employed as...an engineer with Design Specialists and B&S Farms" where he lives in Haralson County. Moreover, on his Facebook page he lists Design Specialists as an employer, and Design Specialists is identified on various websites as an engineering business. Under Georgia law, if a person holds himself out as an engineer, he must be licensed by the State of Georgia. See Official Code of Georgia 45-15-30(11) (defining professional engineering as someone who holds himself out as an engineer by verbal claim, sign, advertisement, letterhead, or any other manner).

 

However, according to the Georgia Secretary of State (which maintains a list of properly licensed engineers), Bill Heath IS NOT LICENSED to be an engineer in the State of Georgia. Last night, when Mr. Heath came out against limiting lobbyist gifts to legislators at $100, Mr. Heath said the most important thing voters can do is to elect ethical people in the first place. By holding himself out as an engineer when he is not even licensed to practice engineering, Mr. Heath apparently believes that ethics should apply to everyone else but him. A public figure who makes misrepresentations to the public should be held accountable. We hold CEO's and football coaches accountable for misrepresentations in their resumes and should hold our elected officials to the same standards.

 

Not only does he hold himself out as an engineer on his official senate biography, Senator Heath also claims that he "earned" a degree in electrical engineering from Southern Polytechnic University in Marietta. The truth is that Mr. Heath received a degree from Southern Technical School, as the school was not a university when Mr. Heath attended it. At a minimum, he exaggerates his resume, as demonstrated by the fact that when he ran in 2000 against Speaker Murphy, his website correctly listed where he received his degree.

 

Honesty and integrity should still matter under the Gold Dome. Attached is a link for his official senate biography in pdf form.

Heath Senate Bio.pdf

Edited June 20, 2012 by Pigpen

[solosoul]

Sorry but that is all rather petty. If he has an engineering degree then he is an engineer . Does he state he is license in Georgia? If he says he does and really does not then that would be a lie. To call the school by the name it now goes by is not a big deal. Not that I care for the guy but at least come up with real reasons not BS it only weakens your stand against him and gives reason for people to vote for him not against him.

[lowrider]

Not that I care for the guy but at least come up with real reasons not BS it only weakens your stand against him and gives reason for people to vote for him not against him.

 

 

NOT me!

 

I can think for myself and have never, nor will I ever vote for HEATH.

 

He's got some serious issues and one of them is being a liar.

 

I know who I'm voting for and it's NOT Paulette either.

[TwoKidCircus]

I'm really doing to hate this site until the election is over, aren't I? Everyday, it is another candidate being attacked.

[bored]

I have no idea what the man does for a living.

 

BUT I do know this.........I could list on my FB page that I am President of the US AND a Victoria Secrest Model and that I am 24 years old.

 

 

What I put on FB does not matter.

Many people I know fluff themselves up on FB.

[Ixliam1]

Not having a license just means you can't stamp the drawings, thats all. Each state has its own licensing standards, and Georgia is pretty tough. For example, my uncle who graduated with an associated degree from the same school (when it was a branch of Georgia Tech) has licenses in several other states, but not in Georgia. He can stamp engineering drawings in those states, just not in Georgia. Engineering companies usually employee a number of engineers, some who have stamps (i.e. licensed for that state), and some who do not. In the various engineering companies I worked for, most of the "stamp holders" were the executives, while the non-stamp holders were the workers. To get that license, besides taking the state exam, you have to work for a number of years in the field before you can even apply for that.

 

There's a difference between being an engineer, and a licensed engineer.

[Mason Rountree]

Georgia law is absolutely clear that a person cannot hold himself out as an engineer unless he is licensed by the State of Georgia. It is not BS. It is the law.

[glassdogs]

Sorry but that is all rather petty. If he has an engineering degree then he is an engineer . Does he state he is license in Georgia? If he says he does and really does not then that would be a lie. To call the school by the name it now goes by is not a big deal. Not that I care for the guy but at least come up with real reasons not BS it only weakens your stand against him and gives reason for people to vote for him not against him.

 

I think the question is really if he is PRACTICING engineering. If he is providing engineering/design services without being registered with the state, that's a big problem. If he has been registered with the state and is no longer doing engineering for hire, and didn't renew his license, then this is a non-issue. I think a time line is important here.

 

Not that it would matter to this voter, anyway. JK for me.

Edited June 20, 2012 by Glassdogs

[lowrider]

So has anybody decided if Carruth can run? Or is he a liar too?

 

We really do have some corrupt people running for office to represent this county.

[Mason Rountree]

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Edited June 20, 2012 by Pigpen

[TwoKidCircus]

Georgia law is absolutely clear that a person cannot hold himself out as an engineer unless he is licensed by the State of Georgia. It is not BS. It is the law.

 

Can you post code section that confirms? I see how you can be a professional licensed engineer and an engineer in training.

[Mason Rountree]

Can you post code section that confirms? I see how you can be a professional licensed engineer and an engineer in training.

 

It is official code of Georgia section 43-15-2(11).

[Lady Raider]

In his official Senate biography, Senator Bill Heath claims that he is "self-employed as...an engineer with Design Specialists and B&S Farms" where he lives in Haralson County. Moreover, on his Facebook page he lists Design Specialists as an employer, and Design Specialists is identified on various websites as an engineering business. Under Georgia law, if a person holds himself out as an engineer, he must be licensed by the State of Georgia. See Official Code of Georgia 45-15-30(11) (defining professional engineering as someone who holds himself out as an engineer by verbal claim, sign, advertisement, letterhead, or any other manner).

 

However, according to the Georgia Secretary of State (which maintains a list of properly licensed engineers), Bill Heath IS NOT LICENSED to be an engineer in the State of Georgia. Last night, when Mr. Heath came out against limiting lobbyist gifts to legislators at $100, Mr. Heath said the most important thing voters can do is to elect ethical people in the first place. By holding himself out as an engineer when he is not even licensed to practice engineering, Mr. Heath apparently believes that ethics should apply to everyone else but him. A public figure who makes misrepresentations to the public should be held accountable. We hold CEO's and football coaches accountable for misrepresentations in their resumes and should hold our elected officials to the same standards.

 

Not only does he hold himself out as an engineer on his official senate biography, Senator Heath also claims that he "earned" a degree in electrical engineering from Southern Polytechnic University in Marietta. The truth is that Mr. Heath received a degree from Southern Technical School, as the school was not a university when Mr. Heath attended it. At a minimum, he exaggerates his resume, as demonstrated by the fact that when he ran in 2000 against Speaker Murphy, his website correctly listed where he received his degree.

 

Honesty and integrity should still matter under the Gold Dome. Attached is a link for his official senate biography in pdf form.

 

 

I think he Bill Heath needs to look the word ethical up before he uses it.. he is far from ethical or moral

 

NOT me!

 

I can think for myself and have never, nor will I ever vote for HEATH.

 

He's got some serious issues and one of them is being a liar.

 

I know who I'm voting for and it's NOT Paulette either.

 

 

[lowrider]

HEATH must have a lot of campaign money because I just got my 4th glossy, 2-sided flyer in the mail, all within 2 weeks.

[lucky64]

HEATH must have a lot of campaign money because I just got my 4th glossy, 2-sided flyer in the mail, all within 2 weeks.

 

I don't even think I received one flyer on any of the campaign runners. If I have, I didn't pay attention to it closely. Normally if any junk mail comes to the house, it goes into the garbage before I even open the door.

[TwoKidCircus]

It is official code of Georgia section 43-15-2(11).

 

Could he be an engineer-in-training and working to be a professional engineer?

[doraville]

If you want to put a "PE" (short for Professional Engineer) on your business card, and if you do work that requires you to stamp your work with a PE stamp, then you must become a licensed engineer.

 

Most positions in Civil Engineering and Architectural Engineering require a PE stamp. Many Mechanical Engineering positions require a PE stamp. Not many Electrical Engineering positions, and almost no Electronics or Computer Engineering positions require a PE stamp, therefore only a small percentage of Electrical Engineering graduates pursue getting licensed as a PE.

 

I agree with Solo that this whole thing is rather petty. If you have an engineering degree, then you are an engineer. If you seek and receive a license as a Professional Engineer, then you are a PE and you have the right to use that title on your business card.

 

So, did Heath ever claim that he was a PE? If not, then there is no story here and we're just seeing a sad case of sour grapes.

[bored]

If you want to put a "PE" (short for Professional Engineer) on your business card, and if you do work that requires you to stamp your work with a PE stamp, then you must become a licensed engineer.

 

Most positions in Civil Engineering and Architectural Engineering require a PE stamp. Many Mechanical Engineering positions require a PE stamp. Not many Electrical Engineering positions, and almost no Electronics or Computer Engineering positions require a PE stamp, therefore only a small percentage of Electrical Engineering graduates pursue getting licensed as a PE.

 

I agree with Solo that this whole thing is rather petty. If you have an engineering degree, then you are an engineer. If you seek and receive a license as a Professional Engineer, then you are a PE and you have the right to use that title on your business card.

 

So, did Heath ever claim that he was a PE? If not, then there is no story here and we're just seeing a sad case of sour grapes.

WELL SAID....

[feelip]

If you want to put a "PE" (short for Professional Engineer) on your business card, and if you do work that requires you to stamp your work with a PE stamp, then you must become a licensed engineer.

 

Most positions in Civil Engineering and Architectural Engineering require a PE stamp. Many Mechanical Engineering positions require a PE stamp. Not many Electrical Engineering positions, and almost no Electronics or Computer Engineering positions require a PE stamp, therefore only a small percentage of Electrical Engineering graduates pursue getting licensed as a PE.

 

I agree with Solo that this whole thing is rather petty. If you have an engineering degree, then you are an engineer. If you seek and receive a license as a Professional Engineer, then you are a PE and you have the right to use that title on your business card.

 

So, did Heath ever claim that he was a PE? If not, then there is no story here and we're just seeing a sad case of sour grapes.

 

 

I agree with you on the PE. Not sure about the sour grapes. Heath is a prick whether he has PE on his card or not.

[Mason Rountree]

If you have an engineering degree, then you are an engineer. If you seek and receive a license as a Professional Engineer, then you are a PE and you have the right to use that title on your business card.

 

So, did Heath ever claim that he was a PE? If not, then there is no story here and we're just seeing a sad case of sour grapes.

 

Yes, he did claim that he is a professional engineer as specifically indicated under Georgia law.

 

Under Official Code of Georgia section 43-15-2 (11), "[a] person shall be construed to practice or offer to practice professional engineering...who by verbal claim, sign, advertisement, letterhead, card, or in any other way represents or holds himself out as a professional engineer or engineer or as able or qualified to perform engineering services or who does perform any [such] services."

 

Under Official Code of Georgia section 43-15-7 (a), "[it] shall be unlawful for any person other than a professional engineer to practice or offer to practice professional engineering in this state."

 

Under Official Code of Georgia section 43-15-18 (a), a certificate of registration issued through the State Board of Registration for Professional Engineers shall authorize the practice of professional engineering.

 

Mr. Heath clearly held himself out as an engineer on his official senate biography by claiming to be employed by a business called Design Specialists located in Bremen, Georgia, and operated out of the same address where Mr. Heath lives. If you Google "Design Specialists in Bremen, GA", you will see multiple references to this business as providing engineering services, including services to the poultry and cattle industries. It is also listed in yellowusapages.com as a business offering heavy construction engineering services for, among other things, cattle.

[solosoul]

I think the question is really if he is PRACTICING engineering. If he is providing engineering/design services without being registered with the state, that's a big problem. If he has been registered with the state and is no longer doing engineering for hire, and didn't renew his license, then this is a non-issue. I think a time line is important here.

 

Not that it would matter to this voter, anyway. JK for me.

I have meet JK and really enjoyed talking with him. Seems to be a very together guy. I know nothing about his ideas in this race but from what I have been hearing he may by default at least be the best.

[The Sound Guy]

Not only does he hold himself out as an engineer on his official senate biography, Senator Heath also claims that he "earned" a degree in electrical engineering from Southern Polytechnic University in Marietta. The truth is that Mr. Heath received a degree from Southern Technical School, as the school was not a university when Mr. Heath attended it.

 

If you are going to nit pick Heath, I would point out that the school name was "Southern Technical Institute" from 1949 to 1987, not "Southern Technical School". It then changed to "Southern College of Technology", and then in the 90's, the Architecture department (led by my dad) became the School of Architecture , and the name changed to "Southern Polytechnic State University" to match the new status.

 

It's all the same school and using the current name only makes sense.

 

I also have a BSEET from there and have been an engineer for 20+ years.

[WHITEY]

I have meet JK and really enjoyed talking with him. Seems to be a very together guy. I know nothing about his ideas in this race but from what I have been hearing he may by default at least be the best.

Met JK last night,Had a little chat with him after the debate picked up a yard sign,and will be voting for him.

[TwoKidCircus]

I haven't been posting here all that long and was not in Paulding during your Senate race so I say this with choosing no side. You hate Heath. We get that. You are not doing yourself any favors by constantly attacking him. I think it might do you some good to step back and take a deep breath.

 

Yes, he did claim that he is a professional engineer as specifically indicated under Georgia law.

 

Under Official Code of Georgia section 43-15-2 (11), "[a] person shall be construed to practice or offer to practice professional engineering...who by verbal claim, sign, advertisement, letterhead, card, or in any other way represents or holds himself out as a professional engineer or engineer or as able or qualified to perform engineering services or who does perform any [such] services."

 

Under Official Code of Georgia section 43-15-7 (a), "[it] shall be unlawful for any person other than a professional engineer to practice or offer to practice professional engineering in this state."

 

Under Official Code of Georgia section 43-15-18 (a), a certificate of registration issued through the State Board of Registration for Professional Engineers shall authorize the practice of professional engineering.

 

Mr. Heath clearly held himself out as an engineer on his official senate biography by claiming to be employed by a business called Design Specialists located in Bremen, Georgia, and operated out of the same address where Mr. Heath lives. If you Google "Design Specialists in Bremen, GA", you will see multiple references to this business as providing engineering services, including services to the poultry and cattle industries. It is also listed in yellowusapages.com as a business offering heavy construction engineering services for, among other things, cattle.

[Mason Rountree]

If you are going to nit pick Heath, I would point out that the school name was "Southern Technical Institute" from 1949 to 1987, not "Southern Technical School". It then changed to "Southern College of Technology", and then in the 90's, the Architecture department (led by my dad) became the School of Architecture , and the name changed to "Southern Polytechnic State University" to match the new status.

 

It's all the same school and using the current name only makes sense.

 

I also have a BSEET from there and have been an engineer for 20+ years.

 

You are correct about "Institute" rather than "School". My mistake and apology. And I have many friends who attended and received degrees from the school. However, they don't claim to have received a degree from a university that did not exist at the time the degree was given. From what I understand, the school became recognized by the Board of Regents as a university in 1996. It would be one thing for Mr. Heath to have provided the correct name on his official biography and then state that it is now called a university. He even correctly listed the school's name in his first campaign in 2000 but later deleted it.

 

That's pretty cool about what your Dad did for the school.

[The Sound Guy]

That's pretty cool about what your Dad did for the school.

 

The funny part was he had to retire right after that as he didn't have the educational qualifications to be the Dean of the School. Worked himself right out of a job!!

 

'Course after all that fighting to get it done, he was ready to retire.

 

On the other issue, doing a quick internet search, it appears there is no real rule on what to do on your resume if a school changes names. Some sites recommend using the latest name so that employers (voters) can find the school easily, others recommend using the older name with a "(now zzz )" after the name. Others say use the newer name with a "(formally zzz) after it. Guess it's dealers choice.

 

PPS Not sure who I will vote for, but it won't be Heath.

[GeorgiaTornado]

<--- I'm an engineer and I don't have a EIT, ET, or PE and I'm not registered with the State.

 

Oh and in some states if you have the OTJ as an engineer you can take your PE in those states. I'm pretty sure Texas and DC are 2 of them.

 

editt to add that Texas now requires you to take the National Examination

Edited June 20, 2012 by GeorgiaTornado

[doraville]

...Under Official Code of Georgia section 43-15-2 (11), "...

 

Everyone who has worked in or around the technical field knows that what you are asserting is silly.

 

We all realize that you have a beef with Heath, but you're going to have to dig up something better than this.

Edited June 21, 2012 by dorveille

[Mason Rountree]

Everyone who has worked in or around the technical field knows that what you are asserting is silly.

 

We all realize that you have a beef with Heath, but you're going to have to dig up something better than this. Between this and the "female genital piercing" thing, you are seriously discrediting yourself. It's sad, really.

 

Can't some of you who know pigpen contact him privately and provide him some counsel?

 

This coming from someone who claims to be a republican but ran as a democrat for the state house a few years ago. I guess manipulation and exaggeration finds company together. You also pretended in a prior post that you didn't know who you were gong to vote for in this race yet were on heath's host committee for the event the other day. I am surprised by your defense of the claim to be a practicing engineer when you served on a state bar committee about the unauthorized practice of law. It would be like me claiming to be an economist because I have an economics degree, except the state doesn't license economist like it does engineers. Sad...indeed.

[doraville]

This coming from someone who claims to be a republican but ran as a democrat for the state house a few years ago. I guess manipulation and exaggeration finds company together. You also pretended in a prior post that you didn't know who you were gong to vote for in this race yet were on heath's host committee for the event the other day. I am surprised by your defense of the claim to be a practicing engineer when you served on a state bar committee about the unauthorized practice of law. It would be like me claiming to be an economist because I have an economics degree, except the state doesn't license economist like it does engineers. Sad...indeed.

 

Sorry friend... you have me confused with someone else.

 

I have not decided yet who I will vote for. The more lame attacks directed at Heath that I read (and taking into account their source) the more I am leaning toward Heath. I do intend to give Rogers sincere consideration however. I will not vote for Bill Carruth.

[gpatt0n]

Doraville...

 

I think since Jason Anavitart - sorry if I misspelled the name - is associated with Doraville (he was a city council member and a liberal one at that, we understand), people think you're him.

 

Since I don't disclose identities (and in fact rarely even know them) I sometimes come into a situation like this intending to clarify the situation. And while I have no idea who you are, and your profile is of little help as well, I cannot say categorically you are not Jason Anavitart.

 

One thing I can say is that whomever registered the doraville account used a company IP address that is not associated with any of the companies that I would associate with Mr. Anavitart which tends to say you are not Mr. Anavitart.

 

Further, as the posts made today are not from a corporate domain but rather an address more commonly associated with residential service. Bottom line, despite the suspicions, there is nothing I can see that identifies you as the person suspected to be Mr. Anavitart.

 

Now, you could be Mr. Anavitarts wife posting from home, another person posting from home, a person posting from his/her office using a proxy service to robotically control the home computer from the office or a couple of hundred other sly impersonations that would disguise your identity and maintain your anonymity from any cursory review.

 

And so good for you. We allow anonymity and you've done a good job in maintaining it.

 

pubby

[converse]

I was officially hired on as an "engineer". I do not have a college degree. I present myself to customers as an engineer. I am not licensed by the state of GA. I do hold multiple IT certifications.

 

Am I breaking the law???

[feelip]

I don't care about whether or not he is an engineer. What I want to know is who calls that SOB a senator?

[WHITEY]

This coming from someone who claims to be a republican but ran as a democrat for the state house a few years ago. I guess manipulation and exaggeration finds company together. You also pretended in a prior post that you didn't know who you were gong to vote for in this race yet were on heath's host committee for the event the other day. I am surprised by your defense of the claim to be a practicing engineer when you served on a state bar committee about the unauthorized practice of law. It would be like me claiming to be an economist because I have an economics degree, except the state doesn't license economist like it does engineers. Sad...indeed.

Hand in there pigpen you are about to flush out the real doraville,you are on the right track. Shame on him

 

I don't care about whether or not he is an engineer. What I want to know is who calls that SOB a senator?

What I want to know is what has he done for Paulding County the past eight years???????

[Cabe]

Just FYI. Because it really doesn't matter to me at this point, Heath's diploma is floating around Facebook. It states "Southern Technical Institute". I don't want to see his diploma, I want to see the fliers he sent out.

[Animal]

Met JK last night,Had a little chat with him after the debate picked up a yard sign,and will be voting for him.

 

 

I am with Whitey,if he likes him that says something. So I want a sign to and some tomatoes on the side

[mei lan]

<--- I'm an engineer and I don't have a EIT, ET, or PE and I'm not registered with the State.

 

Yes, but I daresay you work for a firm that is headed by a licensed engineer(s) under whose license you operate. If you published things about yourself and said you're an engineer and weren't under the aegis of other engineers, you would be in violation of state code.

 

I know a bit about this because I used to work for an architect. A friend of mine got in a great deal of trouble (civil) with the Florida Architecture Board, because in a portfolio, he referred to a proposal he had helped a guy do in Florida. The proposal wasn't formal, the project never went anywhere due to funding, the work didn't have to be stamped, or anything else. But because his name was on the page and they got a copy of it, he was found to be in violation of their state code. Cost him a good bit of money, time, and effort to remedy the situation.

 

I think what Pigpen says about the license part is true; the school part in the bio I have no interest in. This has no bearing on my vote, because like Glassdogs, I'm voting for JK Rogers.

 

Just FYI. Because it really doesn't matter to me at this point, Heath's diploma is floating around Facebook. It states "Southern Technical Institute". I don't want to see his diploma, I want to see the fliers he sent out.

 

I've gotten about 1500 of them (one today). I'll save the next ones for you.

[Mason Rountree]

I was officially hired on as an "engineer". I do not have a college degree. I present myself to customers as an engineer. I am not licensed by the state of GA. I do hold multiple IT certifications.

 

Am I breaking the law???

 

Converse:

 

As mei lan pointed out, under Georgia law, if you are working as an employee or subordinate of a person properly registered through the State, provided the work does not include final design decisions and is done under the supervision and responsibility of the person properly registered/licensed, then you are specifically exempted from the licensing requirement and are not "breaking the law". See Official Code of Georgia section 43-15-29. This exception does not apply to Design Specialists. Heck, Design Specialists doesn't even have a business license from Haralson County.

[zoocrew]

Character and integrity only matter if the candidate you don't want, hasn't any. If your candidate has no character or integrity, it is simply explained away. Remember how awful John Edwards was to some people, but they supported Newt? Or how they blast Obama for using Executive Privilege but supported Bush when he did it.

 

Politics. It's just disgusting.

 

Really, I think politics shows the hypocrisy of the voter as much as it does that of the politician.

 

Just a general observation.

 

About Heath, I just think they guy is a dangerous right wing extremist. Not sure if the other guy is any better.

[doraville]

Doraville...

 

I think since Jason Anavitart - sorry if I misspelled the name - is associated with Doraville (he was a city council member and a liberal one at that, we understand), people think you're him.

 

Since I don't disclose identities (and in fact rarely even know them) I sometimes come into a situation like this intending to clarify the situation. And while I have no idea who you are, and your profile is of little help as well, I cannot say categorically you are not Jason Anavitart.

 

One thing I can say is that whomever registered the doraville account used a company IP address that is not associated with any of the companies that I would associate with Mr. Anavitart which tends to say you are not Mr. Anavitart.

 

Further, as the posts made today are not from a corporate domain but rather an address more commonly associated with residential service. Bottom line, despite the suspicions, there is nothing I can see that identifies you as the person suspected to be Mr. Anavitart.

 

Now, you could be Mr. Anavitarts wife posting from home, another person posting from home, a person posting from his/her office using a proxy service to robotically control the home computer from the office or a couple of hundred other sly impersonations that would disguise your identity and maintain your anonymity from any cursory review.

 

And so good for you. We allow anonymity and you've done a good job in maintaining it.

 

pubby

 

I don't believe that I know any of you folks outside of here. Some of you have chosen to identify yourselves, and while it is your right to do so personally I wish you didn't. Recently I had a conversation with a person who said that they refused to come to Pcom because "it's just a place where people go to talk trash anonymously". I actually defended Pcom with that person for a couple of reasons:

 

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2. It's a level playing field. Everyone has equal opportunity to speak their peace here. Rich or poor, doctor, lawyer, or construction worker. Granted, everyone may not have equal communications skills, but I don't think that there is much you can do about that.
   
3. Some people are only able to communicate if it is kept anonymous. I understand that a gag order has been issued to county employees. They have been told who they can and can't 'friend' on Facebook, and that they are not allowed to put a sign in their yards. An anonymous forum such as this one is the only opportunity these people have for their voice to be heard.
   

 

I think it is unfortunate that my choice of username has caused anyone to think that I was someone else. That certainly was not my intent; I thought that I had chosen a username that was fairly innocuous. With the permission of the admins, I will change my username to "dorveille" (it's a French word, look it up). I may have to register as a new user to do this, but I am telling you all here that I am going to do it so you will know that it is the same person.

 

Pubby, I can assure you that I have done nothing to mask my IP address, but I do find the fact that you went snooping to be a little disturbing. If my IP address had led you to believe that I was Mr. Anivatarte, would you have compromised my anonymity?