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Posts posted by katcol
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I just e-mailed the flyer to fox 5 atlanta, email your support to see this followed up on to beth.black@foxtv.com
Done.
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Well, I wish somebody, somewhere would see the "advantage" of having them all in one room.
Ooooh, oooh, pick me, pick me! I see the point!
I can't believe that the FBI or local authorities don't take opportunities like this to find some thugs. Maybe this was not really a meeting but I was wondering the same thing about the dog fighting.
If you just follow the magazines and books out of the store, mightn't one find the offenders? Derrrrr.
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Thank you so much for being a big part of the solution!
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There are somethings a man just can't do . . .
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Great news. She is just beautifu!
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Hey, TBAR....
Let's you and I write a book on how to force someone to overcome their fear of snakes. Would you, could you, for a profit?
J/K!
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I really think you need to take a deep breath and think a tad more before hitting send.
Sorry, Soap. That was poorly worded on my part. I share your opinion on freedom of speech, regardless of which religion it's bashing, etc. Obviously, I feel that this is a different set of wheels altogether. That's all I was trying to say.
The rest of the paragraph was not directed at you. All of us, individually, can choose to do whatever. That, simply, is my point.
I have an opinion. I share it. Everyone can bash away. I'll still share it.
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I hope someone will have it fixed soon. I hate that those animals are trapped in those runs 24/7 and now no A/C in this heat!
Can someone get the people who do this to get going??????
The outside animals probably have it better.
That's aweful. Please keep us posted. Is someone there yet?
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In my original post I stated what the facts were and what my choice was and still is. I'm willing to bet that we'll hear a lot more about this soon.
Ever wonder why other online bookstores are not selling these same items? They don't want to loose their customers!
Soap Mom, they can and do write and publish on lots of beliefs and opinions. They could write about killing all the Christians. That is freedom of speech. This is about "how to" best torture and horrifically kill innocent dogs (and chickens). These animals can do nothing to change things. It can be legal to offer the material all day long. Again, I choose not to support ANY part of it. I love that I have that right. You guys have the right to go order up all the books that are offensive and let Amazon know that you'll support them no matter what.
Ironically, I believe you should be able to do that if that's what you choose to do.
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So if they blur the faces of the children, then why would child porn distribution be illegal? Discusting, yes. But what is the point in making anything illegal and then allowing instructional books and videos to be sold?
BTW, has anyone clued O.J. in on this? He probably needs the money.
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=Distributing= child porn is a crime.
=Engaging= in sexual abuse of a child is a crime.
=Discussing= child porn is a Constitutionally protected right.
We don't make something illegal just because we don't like the content of the speech.
Looks like Amazon has removed the DVDs. That was a smart move on their part.
So if we get a group together and do a DVD on how to build a meth lab, I could put it on Amazon and make some good money and be completely legal, right? Oh, and it would show the group building the lab, their recipes, how they make it and then the group doing the meth. Even though these are all illegal, I should have no problem making the movie, right? Maybe a Meth Lab magazine would be in order as well. This group could support other groups who have their own labs, maybe share some selling tips. I've got to go make a phone call to Amazon. We'll need their support.
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Excellent post!
Amazon has the Constitutional right to sell those products. That is protected speech.
And people have the right to put pressure on Amazon to stop selling them.
Calling for measures to legally stop discussion of the topic, however, are blatantly unConstitutional.
So if they had a DVD listed of child pornography in action, that's their constitutional right as well? Both are illegal. Just ask Michael Vick!
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i found the books on amazon...but i'm fairly certain they'll be removed as soon as this is brought to amazon's attentions
Amazon is fighting to keep selling them.
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Google is your friend:
http://www.amazon.com/tag/animal%20fighting
http://animalrights.about.com/b/a/000011.htm
http://network.bestfriends.org/thepitstop/news/12332.html
http://news.com.com/8301-10784_3-6158256-7.html
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/loca...syndication=rss
http://www.out-law.com/page-7757
I can't believe I'm just now hearing about this.
ETA:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-0...kfighting_N.htm
http://www.commondreams.org/news2006/0718-10.htm
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06/08/hu...kfighting_suit/
(^^Great headline!)
You liked that headline, did ya? LOL. Thanks for the links. I haven't been able to do links yet (still ).
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Amen
There are also books that teach folks how to make pipe bombs, Meth Labs, the list goes on and on.
There is a fine line between freedom of speech and abusing it. They have every right to publish said books, but I also have the right to bitch about it....
Exactly.
I specifically stated that I would no longer give these folks my business. I never said there needs to be any government control, even though I would support it, seeing how the practice IS ILLEGAL. The last time I checked we all had a right to make each other aware of the choices being made by the mouths we are feeding.
If they posted a book discussing slavery and it's history or an opinion on slavery that's one thing. Now, I bet that if they offered KKK magazines or slavery magazines which offered young slaves at a price in their ads, I'm thinking we'd have a problem with giving them our business. If the books discussing child porn show the best ways to reach a child and have ads for linking you up with a willing child, that's a problem, folks! Even if they could get away with it legally, would you still give them your money?
The greatest thing about this country is that we all have a choice to support or not to support a company, regardless of government involvment. Companies think they can do any old thing....until it's brought to light. I also agree with Atlanta Chick "And it harm none, Do as thou will." But this harms plenty.
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For those of you who shop Amazon, I'm sorry to tell you: This story is on the www.hsus.org website. Amazon sells books and magazines supporting and promoting dog fighting. It's true! I looked this up myself. Just go to Amazon and search for "dog fight". If anyone would like a copy of the email I received w/a letter to amazon ready for you to send, just pm me. I, for one, will no longer support this company! :angry:
Here is the article:
In the wake of the high-profile indictment of Michael Vick, the nation has been awakened to the cruelty of animal fighting. Members of Congress, corporate leaders, and people like you are speaking out. And Louisiana and New Mexico enacted laws this year to outlaw cockfighting -- the last two states to join the fold.
Online retailer Amazon is now in the lonely position of promoting animal fighting activities. It's the only online retailer of subscriptions to animal fighting magazines in the United States, and these magazines advertise the sale of fighting animals and cockfighting weapons -- sales made illegal by federal law! The Feathered Warrior even advertised fighting dogs from a dogfighter whose operation makes the enterprise described in the Michael Vick indictment look like a bunch of amateurs.
This nonsense from Amazon must stop -- tell them so right now.
Amazon sells subscriptions to cockfighting magazines like The Gamecock and The Feathered Warrior and claims the right to sell dogfighting videos. These materials are not only offensive because of the cruelty they glorify, but their shipment is also a federal felony under the recently-enacted Animal Fighting Prohibition Enforcement Act.
Amazon claims that its commercial sale of these publications is protected by the First Amendment. But the First Amendment does not protect companies advertising illegal contraband, and that's exactly what the magazines sold by Amazon are doing.
Dogs and chickens suffer grievous injuries or death in fights produced for depraved fun and shameful profit. Please ask Amazon right now to stop selling animal fighting magazines. And don't forget to tell your friends and family how they can help, too.
Thank you for all you do for animals.
Sincerely,
Wayne Pacelle
President & CEO
The Humane Society of the United States
P.S. Barnes & Noble, Powells and other online booksellers do not sell these magazines. Tell Amazon to join them today.
P.P.S. Get the full story on Amazon and animal fighting on our new Animal Cruelty and Fighting campaign website.
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Has anyone here ever tried CRT contacts? They are the ones you wear at night and they correct your nearsightedness. Any Info would be appreciated. Thanks
Never heard of these. I'd love to know more, though!
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Going to get a glass of water~!
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Actually there is a place like the one you proposed. It's on Douglas Blvd, in Douglasville. Somewhere near the Home Depot I think. Not sure of the name, West Georgia something?
Really? I never knew there was a pet store that took the animals from the shelter. That's a wonderful idea. Please tell me if anyone knows the name. Think we could talk Pubby into doing some pro-bono advertizing for them? (if that's truly the case).
I'll try to find out who they are.
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We are on the south side of Paulding...off of Baker's Bridge Rd.
Where is Seven Hills? I can walk the dogs here or at the Comet, etc. We're looking for a place where they can let loose and play for a bit. Do they have an area for this that you know of?
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Oh, I just remembered...you can take them to Joe Herren's house. He will love that.
Who? I assume this is someone who doesn't like dogs.
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Thanks. The Lithia Springs park is our closest bet. Still quite a ride for every day.
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There is just nothin' cuter than a golden puppy. Puppy breath is the best!
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How about another little kitty friend to keep your cat company?
I think that's a wonderful idea. There are lots at the shelter just waiting to keep him company.
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