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George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin, murder or self defense?
nschur replied to ihaveadog's topic in RECENT TOPICS
Excuse me but putting a bounty on someone's head is not exploring the racial angle of anything. Let's wait and see what happens if they clear Zimmerman before you discount my statements. -
George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin, murder or self defense?
nschur replied to ihaveadog's topic in RECENT TOPICS
Yes it does. And even if you avoid arrest at the scene by claiming self defense, you will still have to be cleared by the investigation. And even with that you apparantly will have to be cleared by JJ AND AS et al if you are white and THEY think it was racially motivated. Because it is quite apparant now that no matter what the investigation finds here, Zimmerman is a dead man if he goes out in public. -
George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin, murder or self defense?
nschur replied to ihaveadog's topic in RECENT TOPICS
Well that's good. As far as walking down the street and defending yourself goes, anyone that up and attacks a person that they BELIEVE to be following them had better be careful. If you're wrong you just assaulted an innocent person who now has the right to defend themselves. If you just turn and kill them woe be unto you. "Well I thought he was following me" just isn't. Gonna cut it on court. -
George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin, murder or self defense?
nschur replied to ihaveadog's topic in RECENT TOPICS
You know some of you folks will just never get it. You are so fixated on what YOU think happened that you totally ignore any evidence to the contrary. As I stated from the onset. WHOEVER MADE FIRST CONTACT IN THIS CASE IS IN A WORLD OF HURT. There is ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE supporting the notion that Zimmerman attacked Martin first as you folks want to believe. If Martin attacked Zimmerman because he was following him, he is still the primary cause of the primary cause of the altercation. There is evidence supporting the fact that Martin attacked Zimmerman. Like it or not that is all we have ri -
You must have missed the inference. If gas had not gone up 2 dollars a gallon and my wife had not lost her job, less than 10 miles from home, and then having to drive twice as far and work for Mich less doing the same job. Had I actually been able to keep up with the COLI that we are seeing now with my own wages. My taking of yet a third job. And my situation is now the norm for MANY Americans. So spare us your cheerleading for this administration. Things have stabilized and there are upticks and down turns right. Now. But things are very iffy at the moment at best. Your own folks keep warning
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George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin, murder or self defense?
nschur replied to ihaveadog's topic in RECENT TOPICS
The report has been given to you already. It gives details about Zimmerman being bloody wet and having grass stains on the back of his shirt. The witness interviewed that saw part of the altercation supports Zimmerman's account. So unless Zimmerman beat himself up or had the witness do it and they are both lying then the evidence at the scene supports what has been given by the police. Where is ANY of your evidence that disproves it? That's right. At this point THERE ISNT ANY. All you have on your side is what you WANT to believe and a dead black youth. -
I feel soo good about it that I bought a new car. Ohhh wait... I had to trade the vehicle that worked best for us in on a smaller one that is only OK. The economy forced us to do that so we could afford to continue to let my wife drive twice as far to her new Job for 8000/year less. I guess that just makes things wonderful huh.
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George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin, murder or self defense?
nschur replied to ihaveadog's topic in RECENT TOPICS
Everything I stated is IN THE POLICE REPORT AND IS AT LEAST PARTIALLY VALIDATED BY EVIDENCE AND OTHER WITNESSES. What you keep putting out there is just pure speculation supported only by YOUR BELIEFS. Now who is the one assuming thing's? We do not need you to do that... Those were the words I saw and heard from the 911 tape. -
George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin, murder or self defense?
nschur replied to ihaveadog's topic in RECENT TOPICS
There IS evidence to support the fact that he had stopped following Martin and was returning to his vehicle but you refuse to acknowledge it. If that is the case would you say that he had indeed followed the advice of the dispatcher? And if he was assaulted by Martin at that point what do you think? I know Zimmerman deserved an asswhooping for even thinking that a black male that he did not recognize standing outside of the area homes with a hoodie over his head in a crime area at night in the rain was even in the least bit suspicious. Did I mention that racial profile by a private citizen IS -
George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin, murder or self defense?
nschur replied to ihaveadog's topic in RECENT TOPICS
I was an LEO for three years before moving to the FD. I do have training, experience and first hand knowledge of what takes place in a fight/shooting from all aspects. What it means GB is that the police do not want to take responsibility for any injury you might incur whole following the Guy. -
George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin, murder or self defense?
nschur replied to ihaveadog's topic in RECENT TOPICS
You guys can not believe what you think you do not see in the video. Let me ask you guys a very simple question. If Zimmerman had not been hit in the face and been bloodied, bleeding and had ( as reported later) a broken nose. Then why would the LEO put it in the report?!? That info will surely be questioned scrutinized and validated by multiple parties. I DON'T CARE WHAT ZIMMERMAN CLAIMS, I DO CARE WHAT PD AND WITNESSES (INCLUDING EMTs) CLAIM. There is no reason to dismiss the LEOs statements as false because you do not see a mangled person in a video. The video is not of high enough quality -
George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin, murder or self defense?
nschur replied to ihaveadog's topic in RECENT TOPICS
So with the assumption that Martin did punch Zimmerman in the face and knock him to the ground. That Zimmerman WAS headed back to his vehicle. That Martin DID make first physical contact. That Martin WAS bashing Zimmerman's head into the ground. Do we will at this point swap you for Zimmerman. If you had a gun, would you not use it at this point? Or would you just lay there taking the pounding while this.king to yourself... gee maybe I should not have even bothered with this Guy. I guess I'm getting what I deserve and I hope that I will still be alive when he is done pounding on me. Oh Mr. Mar -
George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin, murder or self defense?
nschur replied to ihaveadog's topic in RECENT TOPICS
What really bothers me here is the total lack of understanding about what WAS IN THE POLICE REPORT. The police report had the officers description of Zimmerman and his injuries. It also has a witness statement that is inline with Zimmerman's. All indications from the facts released this far support Zimmerman. You folks that sit her and make contrary statements to what is in the report are just talking out of your collective arses. I could just as easily say the man with one red shoe is the one that actually did it. That comment has just as much validity as yours because nothing can prove or di -
George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin, murder or self defense?
nschur replied to ihaveadog's topic in RECENT TOPICS
Running or going to someone's door or into a public building are all great ideas. Going up to the guy and punching him in the nose is... well... just pretty dang stupid. -
George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin, murder or self defense?
nschur replied to ihaveadog's topic in RECENT TOPICS
What is laughable is the fact that so many believe that for some reason a resident of the area has NO RIGHT to find someone he does not recognize, wearing a hoodie, at night, standing outside in the rain in front of the local homes suspicious. So he found him suspicious, So what if he was black. So what if the the guy may have been a little quick to call 911. WHAT WAS THE CRIME that he commited up to this point? That's right... there wasn't one. So had everything gone the way he probably thought they would, the police would have got there, questioned the kid and either released him if there wa -
W. Seattle teen beaten bloody in possible hate crime
nschur replied to nschur's topic in RECENT TOPICS
Sometimes when the idiotic actions of some demand it... Yup. And It will also have to be while I have a little down time between my 3 jobs. Like right now. But I have to go to job 3 here in a few minutes. Have fun without me. I'm sure YOU will miss me Jerry. -
W. Seattle teen beaten bloody in possible hate crime
nschur replied to nschur's topic in RECENT TOPICS
sorry, but my job includes going out there and tending to the victims that have been assaulted by these kinds of folks. That includes stopping the bleeding and cleaning the blood off of them where practical. So If I went out there to protest then who would fix them up? We all have our jobs and skills. My personal skill set is not being employed as a professional RACEBAITER. I do not get money or acknowledgement from other white folks for going out and stirring the pot like those two do from the black community. -
SEATTLE - A 16-year-old boy from West Seattle says he was held hostage and beaten for hours, all because of the color of his skin. Shane McClellan says two men kicked and whipped him at gunpoint - and told him they singled him out because he is white. Tim McClellan, Shane's father, says he barely recognized his son after the brutal assault. "I didn't know if he was alive or dead," Tim McClellan said. The incident happened as Shane McClellan was walking home from a birthday party at a friend's house Tuesday around 2 a.m. http://www.komonews.com/news/local/95191119.html?
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Thank you and you're welcome. It is great to hear good things about your services in public. Dis jr. says thanks for the drink.
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George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin, murder or self defense?
nschur replied to ihaveadog's topic in RECENT TOPICS
No "we" are not. I have maintained the same stance from the word go. All indications from the police report released backs Zimmerman's side. The actual truth may vary a little. As I stated all along what really matters is WHO MADE FIRST PHYSICAL CONTACT. IF Zimmerman tried to detain Martin, and the fight occured post contact, he is in a world of hurt. The Reports and witnesses do not seem to back that scenario. IF Martin came up to Zimmerman, And indications are that he was returning to his vehicle not pursuing Martin, and punched him in the face, knocked him to the ground and began bashing hi -
George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin, murder or self defense?
nschur replied to ihaveadog's topic in RECENT TOPICS
In regards to the whole witness corrction thing... This is the best I could find. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57405078/trayvon-lawyer-police-trying-to-blame-victim/ Notice the whole bolded part. IT IS THEIR ATTORNEY who said that. HE did not give any names or anything. He only says they have them. Why are these "witnesses not coming forward. He says Sanford PD has a history of this but yet he has no one that comes forward saying this is the case. He only says something about the young boy that has some connection as a witness. How or what I do not know. Any witness that he br -
George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin, murder or self defense?
nschur replied to ihaveadog's topic in RECENT TOPICS
How many witnesses were there to this again. I'm confused. I am also skeptical. No police officer corrects a witnesses testimony unless it were to raise a question. for instance... If they said it was the black guy in the red hoodie that I say ontop of the "white" guy in the grey sweater. Then they might ask a question or two about who was wearing what because the black guy was wearing the grey hoodie and the white guy was wearing the red sweater. But heck what do I know. Apparantly most of you guys were sitting there in the grandstands watching the whole thing unfold. I know I wasn't. The -
George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin, murder or self defense?
nschur replied to ihaveadog's topic in RECENT TOPICS
No... You have a witnessed that saw Martin hitting and banging Zimmerman's head into the sidewalk. He then says he told Martin to Stop and that he was calling 911. He went to make the call, missed the actual shooting part and came back out to see Martin on the ground apparantly dead. Let's try to keep the information accurate and not leave out details or add other details that do not have a basis in fact. That is unless we are talking about 2 different witnesses. -
George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin, murder or self defense?
nschur replied to ihaveadog's topic in RECENT TOPICS
Nor do we know that Zimmerman "grabbed Martin and then shot him or even ran up to him and put a gun to his chest and fired". But we have witnesses that affirmed details that would back Zimmerman and not the other side. -
George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin, murder or self defense?
nschur replied to ihaveadog's topic in RECENT TOPICS
While "racial profiling" may be looked at as bad for the law enforcement community, there is no law ordinance or anything that prohibits a PRIVATE citizen from doing it. They are under NP obligation to be PC at all.