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  1. I don't really care where most people 'round here think I'm coming from. Matthew 7:1-3 is where my heart on this matter lies. It only requires that we judging them by the same measure by which we judge ourselves. The really cool thing is that allows us to recognize our humanity and in so doing, provides us a path to peace that otherwise would be impossible. But those who have no desire for peace, it just gets in the way despite the dire consequences of ignoring it. Frankly, I find that passage as one of the most difficult concepts for people to understand and your misconstruing m
  2. I answered that a dozen times, Whitey ... Paulding doesn't have industry and while an airport can aid in the recruitment, you can figure it will take 10-20 years for it to become viable because of the attitude in the past toward economic development. Now, what Paulding does have are people - lots of people - because the powers that be that thwarted industrial and commercial development did encourage residential development and the product of residential development is people. We have lots of people. A general aviation airport serves businesses and industry. A commercial aviation a
  3. That is absurd. Where we differ is you are blind to reality ... but then those who prefer the quick, easy black and white world of moral absolutest tend to ignore the facts as you meander toward your ignorance is bliss zone of comfort. Agreed, and thanks for pointing out that we're speaking of the Moore Oklahoma murder by a man with obvious problems who converted to Islam while in prison (the latter fact from Brietbart.) This is where we disagree. There are extremists in Islam that distort that faith to justify their extremism and it happens that those with this interpretat
  4. Yes, you've been drumming up hate. And yes, there are extremists who will latch on to any religion, ideology or idea that seems to justify their hate - Christians included. As you point out, Zorro, there are good things in Islam and there is bad. So it is with every religion. We are individually responsible for what we draw from these sources of inspiration. By categorizing all who were raised in the belief of ISLAM, we are, consciously, setting ourselves up to commit genocide on them. Frankly, it is just as despicable to characterize all followers of Islam as terrorists as it wo
  5. Zorro and Crossroads: It is you whose understanding of history is faulty. To see wisdom and justice in every thing we do and see the paw-print of the devil in the acts of others when they fight fire with fire is to suffer from a ethnocentrism. So while it is absurd to consider the act of a deranged individual in Colorado the act of an entire religion, you find it impossible to see the acts we commit as anything other than the aspirations of Christian people for peace and security. What I want to know is how you square the mass exodus of the American Indians from Georgia and Florida t
  6. How do you get that I'm defending his actions. I think it is horrific that some sonofbitch cuts someone's throat and frankly, what he mumbles as he does it doesn't change a thing. I'm no less horrified at the acts of Eric Rudolph (Olympic bomber) and given his other attacks, I'm not blaming you or other Christians for his acts although he admits his murder of two and injuring 111 in Georgia in 1996-98 was motivated by his Christian Identity beliefs. Criminal behavior is criminal behavior and I'm all for adjudicating criminals and prosecuting them to the fullest extent of the law. I rec
  7. Islamic murders? So Allah came down and committed the mayhem himself? I thought it was a knife murder that was stopped by an off-duty policeman who shot, but didn't kill him with a pistol. Fact is, I'd be more inclined to blame it on the devil than Islam - especially if the brand of Islam being proffered by the guy was the "Nation of Islam" or one of its Americanized derivatives: American Society of Muslims Fruit of Islam Five-Percent Nation New Black Panther Party United Nation of Islam Your Black Muslim Bakery I suspect they have some big knives at the "Your Black Muslim Bakery."
  8. No, I think it may be they know the Republican politicians already stole all the sneaker and beer. Why? Because politics in Louisiana for 90 percent of the state's political types is a kleptocracy ... and that is regardless of party. But then you know that; they're only marginally more corrupt there than here. pubby PS: The only reason that Bobby Jindal is governor there is because the thieves, I mean party leaders, told him they'd beat him up if stuck his hand in the till.
  9. feelip... that is the gayest thing you've ever said. pubby
  10. I have no interest whatsoever in making this guy look anything other than the grotesque example of a human being he is. I'm just not of the opinion that we ought to blame it on his religion and by extension, suggest that everyone who is of that religion ought to be guilty. Indeed, given the man is black it is highly likely that this person's choice was not an eastern Muslim sect, which is the implication. The Southern Poverty Law Center classes some strains of black Muslim groups - those associated with Louis Farrakan, as Black Seperatists. If you want to understand my mo
  11. You know, my good conservative southern education was actually found faulty yesterday. I had known of the Tulsa race riots for at least two decades but I had never heard about the Atlanta one. Was everyone aware of that? Is it taught in Georgia history? Is it widely known? pubby PS: I was taught Arkansas history in school so I knew about the Brooks-Baxter war - political factions that brought artillery to their campaigns ... and of course I lived through the Arkansas Prison Scandal when warden Tom Murton (Played in the movie by Robert Redford in the movie Brubaker (1980) unburied
  12. mrshoward. I know they are channeling the whabbies from the 17th century.who teamed with the house of Saud to conquer the Arabian peninsula while some of our ancestors were lighting up witches in Salem. I'm sure some conservatives here actually do want to go back to t hose good old days ... so they can throw rocks at the gays, if nothing else. One might opine that religious freedom is so great in modern Islam, the conservatives of that region actually get to live their dreams pubby
  13. That was my fear when he asked to support him in a run for Sheriff back in 2005 or so... I declined. pubby
  14. mrshoward: Let me amend that note that Ron and Rand Paul will be leading ... although they'll be there. Here is a timely analysis from JV ... Jesse Ventura ... who is certainly no raving "liberal" The point being is that the understanding that there are forces within the US that want us at war - want us in perpetual war for that matter. For instance, the suggestion I made above, while it seems reasonable in the light of those seeking war, would have no chance of being policy because it does hold the prospect for peace which is the last thing the neoconservative corporatist's
  15. I think the British attitude was that those doing the inviting didn't have the authority given they were in the eyes of the sovereign, traitors to the Crown. pubby
  16. Actually, Jews and Christians are not forced to convert by Islam or face death. Rather those who once accepted Islam do face death if they convert to another religious belief, though. As far as the convert or die attitude, this from the founder of the reformation, Martin Luther: It is kind of absurd to argue that religion has not been the inspiration of murder, theft and worse but the plain fact is that religion is like a gun ... it takes a person to use it in that way for it to be evil. pubby
  17. Dogs ... I can see you're a fully devolved human being. I suspect you're Walter Mitty is channeling Attila the Hun or do you just lust for those times when real men whacked real women over the skull before they raped them? Our undisputed interest to foster peace in the region ... Our challenge is how to do that. pubby I suspect that Rand Paul will be one of the proponents (And if not Rand, certainly Ron.) pubby
  18. Easy... they weren't issued visa's by the British pubby
  19. The think I want to emphasize to you when I present the following video of the guy who was shot in the Walmart in Ohio, is that this is an OPEN CARRY state ... i.e. it is legal to carry weapons in public places. That the BB gun that the man was holding was taken from the shelves - someone else had apparently unboxed it - is secondary to the understanding that it is and remains legal to carry there. The presumed 'rub' is that there was a 911 call from someone who alleged that the man was brandishing it and pointing at people but none of the store video seems to confirm that and the
  20. What a grizzly crime. Since Islam is the religion of peace, one might assume that he failed to grasp that tenant just as these guys, who proclaim their Christianity failed to turn the other cheek. Not an actual lynching... but a recreation from the movie "A birth of a Nation" ... I decided not to 'go all the way' with any of the grizzly images which, incidentally, made the photographers who captured the events, a little money. Seems they'd print them up as post cards and folks would buy them to distribute messages - I guess like Christmas greetings. (Among the images I passed over was
  21. Actually, while I've never seen any ghosts, I've known a few spooks ... pubby
  22. Yes it is ... and if we follow the right who actually does think it is a joke, I'm afraid the joke will be on us. pubby
  23. LaFayette, Kosciusko, Pulaski, Von Steuben ... and the list goes on and on of those 'illegal aliens' that fought for our revolution. We named cities for most of them. pubby
  24. I've embedded the video referenced above which autostarts with an ad behind the spoiler
  25. I see fear as the driving emotion here. The cop is this incident is obviously on the edge scared ... I wouldn't be surprised if the cop in Ferguson wasn't scared and indeed, fear that the person being stopped and questioned generally isn't armed to the teeth seems to be a growing fear in light of the right making headway in its desire to have guns everywhere. This may be a little distorted but the message that I'm hearing from some on the right is as absurd as lets arm nine year old girls and train them with pink Uzi's. That can't help but makes the cops even more fearful. I think
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