DomesticViolenceByProxy

Inaccurate synopsis, please read again.

Actually, no response is required but thank you for yours. It is both an interesting and helpful analysis. The term "flying monkey" is in no way meant to be passed as a clinical term. It is vernacular common to those informally educated through survivor experiences. Most academics rely on the experiences of survivors and or abusers as there can be no formal study with out subjects/patients. SOME "flying monkeys" can themselves have NPD but in no way does the writer say that all of them do.

That's not what I said. I've only been judgmental of those that have been judgmental of me FIRST. On topics of mutual interest... Never mind. Believe what you will.

Really, I could care less why anyone else is here. I am just the opposite of you. On topics of mutual interest, I believe in information sharing. I don't particularly have a need to belong or socialize. If someone has something to say of interest to me and I believe I have a positive contribution to make, I comment. I don't feel a need to sit in judgment of anyone's posts whether they interest me or not.

Your lack of understanding is exactly why I make such posts for the purpose of awareness. Awareness is for those that choose to understand or desire to know that they are not alone in this fight. It's your right to believe whatever you choose. It's not for me to prove anything to you. If you get something from my posts excellent. If you don't and you're happy, good for you. I think Pubby's site is great but I wouldn't need it to point blame. Between my daughter's site, fb page and my fb page, I have access to over 50,000 unique readers, globally, every month. I don't think Pubby has an in

With us/Against us is a form of splitting that was discussed in January if you follow the link.

This is a pretty good blog article on "enablers", aka "flying monkeys". http://echorecovery.blogspot.com/2013/12/flying-monkeys-no-contact-or-low-contact.html

I don't get compensated for sharing the hard lessons I have learned. I didn't ask for a pity party. I only offer information that was never available to me when I needed it most. For you and gog8tors to ridicule me post after post because you think I have some unknown hidden agenda and then get upset when I snap back is puzzling but whatever. If you don't like the message move to the next thread. 2 years ago I didn't even know what parental alienation was or that it was even a legal strategy employed by some lawyers. If there were someone that could have told me I'd have gladly listened. I

Thank you.

I'm like a mirror. What you see is a reflection of yourself. GIGO, Garbage in Garbage out. When mrshoward makes snide bubblegum popping remarks, she gets what she gets. I'd like to raise awareness and if you are cynical in your response then you will be met with a degree of skepticism. If you look at the posts that I make that you don't agree with you must first look at the post that I am responding to. I don't initiate hostilities but I don't allow my boundaries to be pushed either. Turn about is fair play.

You hold a degree in Parental Alienation? So are you saying it took 95 years for Tourette's Syndrome to acquire scientific validity? May be you are a card carrying member of NOW. As you are degreed, I guess you can point to the sections where Parental Alienation appears in DSM-5 therefore it must have attained some required validity. What of sociopathy and psychopathy? If you're going to cherry pick what you'll respond to there really is not point in continuing.

I agree with much of what you say here. I'm blunt, forward and brutally honest as you are. I don't need sympathy or a pity party. The minute you and gog8tors made such insinuations I admit I lost patience with you. If my agenda were a pity party, I wouldn't seek it here. I did insult YOUR intelligence and that was counterproductive on my part. I don't think you can honestly say you made no attempts to insult me as well. That's not completely saying you stirred the kettle and then played the victim either.

Well said. I'm not quite so refined in how to always present things. I'll keep working on it. What I was looking for was a first impression. At some point I may have confused everyone into believing I was looking for a full diagnosis. As I said earlier I was looking for first impressions. I'm not sure where I did this so if I did, that is regrettable.

Do you know what grooming is? Triangulation? Abuse Amnesia? Ambient abuse? Splitting? These are all just a few fairly common terms. Are you familiar with any of them? I have narcissistic traits. Everyone has traits of narcissism as do you. The question is where do you lie on the spectrum? I also have the ability to self-reflect. I can adapt my behavior positively with introspection. A person with NPD cannot. They can never accept blame or even compromise unless there is a consequence. Even with significant consequences they don't change they just become more secretive about the flaw.

I'm going to try to take a less abrasive response to your approach. I've met force with force and it didn't work out well. I'm sure you are not a card carrying member of The National Organization of Women, so what would that reason be (about PAS not being "accepted")? At trial a trained professional is often asked for his opinion based on a short video. He may not make a diagnosis but there is enough information to hypothesize. Never has anyone mentioned PAS. There is a difference between the syndrome and alienation. Do you know what it is? I suppose you don't believe in Stockholm Syn

No like "mysterious" and Stradial you are as correct as this situation will allow. To the untrained eye their isn't enough information. To someone who knows parental alienation and knows these types of situations it is clear what is going on. Is the Dad 100% correct? Probably not but the court determined he didn't deserve to have his kids moved to another state and held from him for 90 days. Isolation is key to manipulation. This court got it right.

Clearly standing there filming the situation was doing nothing to calm her son. That is why the officer told her she had to leave. As long as she was present the son would continue to carry on. When you keep a child from the other parent illegally for 90 days for no good reason, the pieces fall into place for the trained experienced eye. What is the first thing any abuser does? They isolate the victim from differing points of view and effect reward and punishment. Parental alienation is much like Stockholm Syndrome.

I'm not trying to insult you but the layman cannot see the reality of the situation. Many professionals not trained in parental alienation cannot see it either. Judges appoint psychologists thinking any psychologist will do and that is simply not the case. It's like having a general practitioner perform neurosurgery. Parental alienation is a specialty and requires appropriate training and education. Everyone thinks sociopaths are cut/slash crazies like Michael Myers or Norman Bates. In actuality Norman Bates was not a psychopath contrary to the title of the movie. He was psychotic. Most s

that's not what I said. You're just a good pet owner, I guess. Many people think dogs can detect crazy people and my example was to illustrate how dogs cannot detect crazy people from anyone else. If you derived otherwise from my comments, that was not the intent. I wasn't calling Cesar Millan a sociopath either.

In court, sociopaths do extremely well because they are calm assertive. Judges and courtrooms like calm assertive. The sociopath will create a stir and then CALMLY step back and say "look at the chaos and confusion", I'm clearly the better parent. Of course when you've had your children ripped from your life you aren't going to be anything but emotional and appear unstable. Sociopaths also do well with dogs. Contrary to popular belief dogs can't see crazy. If you ever watch Cesar Millan, you will notice how he always mentions how dogs need calm assertive. Exactly what sociopaths are IN PUB

Both 50/50? C'mon you can do better than that. The mom has withheld the children from the father for 90 days illegally. The father is yelling and manhandling the child. What is causing the child to react in that way? Is that the typical reaction of an alienated child?

You learn later in the thread that is just a visitation and not a change of custody. From the original thread which is broken because the video was removed: The mother moved the kids from Florida to Pennsylvania.

To be honest if I say to much I will contaminate opinions. Especially those that are already antagonistic toward my opinions. Dad yells at son? Notice anything else that Dad does? What about Mom anything there? The police? The pick-up order is for visitation, not a change of custody. From the video we gather the following: 1) Dad has a court order for pick-up for both kids (older child is not resisting). 2) Dad claims parental alienation of Mom during the video, (90 days of brainwashing) 3) Mom is recording That was funny

Really just looking for first impressions. I don't want to corrupt the back story with my opinion until we get first impressions. What ever I say or however I present the story is going to sway opinions.

How do you explain this child's behavior? Mom/Dad or both? If you say both give a percentage please, ie. 50/50 or 40/60, etc. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4F2EMZghDs