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    House passes Stimulus Bill

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    It's worked so well before....

     

     

     

    House Passes $819 Billion Stimulus Bill

     

    Associated Press

     

    In a swift victory for President Barack Obama, the Democratic-controlled House approved a historically huge $819 billion stimulus bill Wednesday night, filled with new spending and tax cuts at the core of the young adminstration's revival plan for the desperately ailing economy.

     

    The vote was 244-188.

     

    "We don't have a moment to spare," Obama declared at the White House as congressional allies hastened to do his bidding in the face of the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression.

     

    The vote sent the bill to the Senate, where debate is expected to begin as early as this week on a companion measure already taking shape. Democratic leaders have pledged to have legislation ready for Obama's signature by mid-February.

     

    A mere eight days after Inauguration Day, Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Tuesday's events heralded a new era. "The ship of state is difficult to turn," said the California Democrat. "But that is what we must do. That is what President Obama called us to do in his inaugural address."

     

    With unemployment at its highest level in a quarter-century, the banking industry wobbling despite the infusion of staggering sums of bailout money and states struggling with budget crises, Democrats said the legislation was desperately needed.

    "Another week that we delay is another 100,000 or more people unemployed. I don't think we want that on our consciences," said Rep. David Obey, D-Wis., chairman of the House Appropriations Committee and one of the leading architects of the legislation.

     

    Republicans said the bill was short on tax cuts and contained too much spending, much of it wasteful and unlikely to help laid-off Americans.

     

    The party's leader, Rep. John Boehner of Ohio, said the measure "won't create many jobs, but it will create plenty of programs and projects through slow-moving government spending." A GOP alternative, comprised almost entirely of tax cuts, was defeated, 266-170, moments before the final vote.

     

    On the final vote, the legislation drew overwhelming support among Democrats while all but a few Republicans opposed it.

    The White House-backed legislation includes an estimated $544 in federal spending and $275 billion in tax cuts for individuals and businesses.

    Included is money for traditional job-creating programs such as highway construction and mass transit projects. But the measure tickets far more for unemployment benefits, health care and food stamp increases designed to aid victims of the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression of the 1930s.

     

    Tens of billions of additional dollars would go to the states, which confront the prospect of deep budget cuts of their own. That money marks an attempt to ease the recession's impact on schools and law enforcement. With funding for housing weatherization and other provisions, the bill also makes a down payment on Obama's campaign promise of creating jobs that can reduce the nation's dependence on foreign oil.

     

    The centerpiece tax cut calls for a $500 break for single workers and $1,000 for couples, including those who don't earn enough to owe federal income taxes.

     

    The House vote marked merely the first of several major milestones a for the legislation, which Democratic leaders have pledged to deliver to the White House for Obama's signature by mid-February.

     

    Already a more bipartisan -- and costlier -- measure is taking shape in the Senate, and Obama personally pledged to House and Senate Republicans in closed-door meetings on Tuesday that he is ready to accept modifications as the legislation advances.

     

    Rahm Emanuel, a former Illinois congressman who is Obama's chief of staff, invited nearly a dozen House Republicans to the White House late Tuesday for what one participant said was a soft sales job.

     

    This lawmaker quoted Emanuel as telling the group that polling shows roughly eighty percent support for the legislation, and that Republicans oppose it at their political peril. The lawmaker spoke on condition of anonymity, saying there was no agreement to speak publicly about the session.

     

    In fact, though, many Republicans in the House are virtually immune from Democratic challenges because of the makeup of their districts, and have more to fear from GOP primary challenges in 2010. As a result, they have relatively little political incentive to break with conservative orthodoxy and support hundreds of billions in new federal spending.

     

    Also, some Republican lawmakers have said in recent days they know they will have a second chance to support a bill when the final House-Senate compromise emerges in a few weeks.

     

    That gave an air of predictability to the proceedings in the House, as Democrats defended the legislation as an appropriate response to the specter of double-digit unemployment in the near future.

     

    Rep. Randy Neugebauer, R-Texas, sought to strip out all the spending from the legislation before final passage, arguing that the entire cost of the bill would merely add to soaring federal deficits. "Where are we going to get the money," he asked, but his attempt failed overwhelmingly, 302-134.

     

    Obey had a ready retort. "They don't look like Herbert Hoover, I guess, but there are an awful lot of people in this chamber who think like Herbert Hoover," he said, referring to the president whose term is forever linked in history with the Great Depression.

    So basically, as expected, instead of creating jobs the Demos are doing what they can (like always) to keep people dependent on the government for support. Way to go Obama! You jumped right in and started working on the Democrat plan to make the US a socialist country.

    So what's the deal with your p.com name?

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    Actually it is what the guys at work nicknamed me for being the resident computer dude. It is also my riding nickname. Glassman (my former name) was related to the industry I work in.

     

    Uh oh! Posting under the wrong login again! :blush:

    Dang it! Everyone should log out the computer when they leave. Actually, I should go back to my first Pcom name - Joejetzu

    Who else is making the 100th day t-shirt?

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    :huh: What's the *point* of a "100th-day" shirt? Heavens, don't parents and teachers have enough to worry about without someone coming up with some kind of gimmicky thing that serves no useful purpose?

     

    (No slam to you, CamoChick - I just think it's a silly idea. That said, think of things your son has done since school started - eaten breakfast, done homework, gotten dressed for school, played games - and use those things to reach 100. It probably won't take as long as you think.)

    I was thinking the same thing.

    Bikers in our back yards?

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    Actually I am one of those people and I will tell you that ONE alleged murder over a century ago shouldn't be a factor in our organization when compairing to the original topic. Freemasons are loving and non violent people.

    Never said they was, and didn't say I believed all the hype the very few make. Just making an observation. Also, I am not bashing you at all. I get what you were saying from the beginning. This was not directed at you. But one thing that gets me is how most of the average people seem have known about these MC clubs being in the area for years, and the cops don't. Think about that one. Not meant to be insulting, just making yet another observation.

    Bikers in our back yards?

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    There is a super secret organization in our midst that has been around for centuries. Their clubhouses are scattered throughout every city and small town in the US. They have been accused of everything from murder to seeking global domination. They are in every community in this country, may even sit beside you in church, and yet, no one seems to fear them or even talk about them, let along question their true motives. Do you know who they are? They are all around you.

    Bikers in our back yards?

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    With the exception of the meth and gun trafficking.

     

    I'm sure the FBI and GBI keep tabs on them.

    What I meant was, when have you seen them on local news, in papers, etc. I haven't at all. Plus, you rarely hear of any MC clashing with the general pubic. As far as the meth and gun trafficing, there are plenty who do that without a backpatch or a bike. Just making an observation.

    Bikers in our back yards?

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    oh good grief. they've been here for 3-4 years now. not sure why they've started to wear their colors.....

    I was going to say, they have been here for some time. Most people just don't know it. I have not know them to bother anyone who didn't bother them first. In fact, never heard of any trouble from them. Have you? Think about it.

     

    Oh, and NC-17, I wasn't actually asking you this directly, just everyone in general. I was just quoting your statement. Wanted to clarify.

    ~Anyone ever been to this Bike show~

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    Are you riding your bike? we have decided not to take our bike...

     

    They are supose to have a lot of items displayed tehre..

     

    did you go to their website? they a have 1.00 coupon you can print off for each admission... you know I am all about those couypons LOL

     

    we will be there about the same time you are..

    I am driving. Thanks for mentioning the coupon. I totally forgot about that.

    ~Anyone ever been to this Bike show~

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    I guess not LOL

     

    I guess not LOL

    I went in 2007 and I am going tomorrow. They mostly display a lot of custom choppers, but they do have other bikes. They have a lot of gear too. Motor Man Paladino is supposed to be there giving riding demonstrations. I purchased a lot of his material for safety training for the Legion Riders. I plan to be there about 11:30am and stay 2 or 3 hours. JB Walker is supposed to play, but I don't know what time. They are having a Miss Full Throttle contest (don't know the time on that either), but from the look of some of the last contestants I saw......I dunno..... :lol:

    Interstate highway extension from I-75 directly to Hwy 278

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    I understand where you are coming from, but it is my understanding the road project has been in the works for several years and is not solely being built to accomodate the airport.

     

    I am still a little confused about the airport too. I have heard that is supposed to be a "passenger" airport and I have also heard that it is supposed to be more like an overflow freight airport for Hartsfield?

    Ok, I was looking at my map program. If you start at the Red Top exit and go across and connect to Old Alabama Road, it put you right at 61/113 and the Cartersville Airport, but you are still no where near 278 . Maybe I am missing something here. It is still a long way around either 61 or 113 to get to the PC "Airport" without cutting across the Braswell Mtns.

     

     

    I understand where you are coming from, but it is my understanding the road project has been in the works for several years and is not solely being built to accomodate the airport.

     

    I am still a little confused about the airport too. I have heard that is supposed to be a "passenger" airport and I have also heard that it is supposed to be more like an overflow freight airport for Hartsfield?

    It was supposed to be a lot of things it isn't and likely will not be for a very long time.

    Interstate highway extension from I-75 directly to Hwy 278

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    Two different things....the road is Federal money....the airport is mainly state & FAA.

    Doesn't matter. Why spend federal money to built a road to something that isn't close to being finished, and last I heard they have no money to do it. Where are they getting money for the tower, hangars, industrial park, and all the lovely things that were promised? They have a strip with a flagpole.

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