Maddox Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 Its really not hard to understand. Winchester has ask Whitey a few times to prove that there is a connection with Jerry Shearin and Beverly in this race. All he has basically been able to prove so far is that Jerry Shearin and Beverly used to work together and as I have stated earlier, that really proves no connection other than simply working together. Just goes to show you how dense I am, All along I thought whitey was trying to show that Cochran. While working with Shearin, Knew about some of the distasteful things that went on during that administration, and was proving that she went along with the misdeeds without objections. I saw where whitey posted something about the infamous e-mail that Todd Pownall spoke about at a commissioners meeting, do you know if Cochran was in the loop and received a copy of this e-mail Link to post Share on other sites
Beach Bum Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 Just goes to show you how dense I am, All along I thought whitey was trying to show that Cochran. While working with Shearin, Knew about some of the distasteful things that went on during that administration, and was proving that she went along with the misdeeds without objections. I saw where whitey posted something about the infamous e-mail that Todd Pownall spoke about at a commissioners meeting, do you know if Cochran was in the loop and received a copy of this e-mail You, Whitey and surepip keep hurling thsee accusations around but never providing any proof. You guys just keep talking and talking and never proving anything - you just keep on with meaningless words typed anonymously on a message forum. Good grief - anyone can do that! I simply am asking anyone here that is seeking facts, stances of candidates issues, etc., to be responsible enough to pick up the phone and call these candidates or shoot them an email. Mindless chatter on a message forum really doesn't accomplish anything other than pure speculation. We in Paulding County are fortunate enough to have people that are concerned enough about our community and its residents to sacrifice their time and money to run for office and for that, we should all be appreciative. We have a great slate of candidates to choose from and I am looking forward to speaking with each and every one of them. If these candidates make decisions that don't include paulding.com as a method of campaigning, then so be it - it is their choice. It is not as if there are not plenty of other ways to reach the citizens of Paulding County. Link to post Share on other sites
Maddox Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 You, Whitey and surepip keep hurling thsee accusations around but never providing any proof. You guys just keep talking and talking and never proving anything - you just keep on with meaningless words typed anonymously on a message forum. Good grief - anyone can do that! I simply am asking anyone here that is seeking facts, stances of candidates issues, etc., to be responsible enough to pick up the phone and call these candidates or shoot them an email. Mindless chatter on a message forum really doesn't accomplish anything other than pure speculation. We in Paulding County are fortunate enough to have people that are concerned enough about our community and its residents to sacrifice their time and money to run for office and for that, we should all be appreciative. We have a great slate of candidates to choose from and I am looking forward to speaking with each and every one of them. If these candidates make decisions that don't include paulding.com as a method of campaigning, then so be it - it is their choice. It is not as if there are not plenty of other ways to reach the citizens of Paulding County. Why do you lump me in with whitey and surepip? Damn excuse me, but I really thought you were knowledgeable of candidate Cochran, I have accused no one of anything, I merely asked a question Good grief excuse me Link to post Share on other sites
Jughaid Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 You, Whitey and surepip keep hurling thsee accusations around but never providing any proof. You guys just keep talking and talking and never proving anything - you just keep on with meaningless words typed anonymously on a message forum. Good grief - anyone can do that! I simply am asking anyone here that is seeking facts, stances of candidates issues, etc., to be responsible enough to pick up the phone and call these candidates or shoot them an email. Mindless chatter on a message forum really doesn't accomplish anything other than pure speculation. We in Paulding County are fortunate enough to have people that are concerned enough about our community and its residents to sacrifice their time and money to run for office and for that, we should all be appreciative. We have a great slate of candidates to choose from and I am looking forward to speaking with each and every one of them. If these candidates make decisions that don't include paulding.com as a method of campaigning, then so be it - it is their choice. It is not as if there are not plenty of other ways to reach the citizens of Paulding County. You know it is actually quite simple - Whitey is very passionate about his causes and if we would all take this stance, the world could potentially become a better place. He might not share the same ideas as you or me or anyone else here; however, he is a human being worthy of respect. As far as I know, he is not guilty of any crime other than (lord forbid) him voicing his opinions on paulding.com. http://paulding.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=206178&view=findpost&p=2723443 Link to post Share on other sites
Beach Bum Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 You know it is actually quite simple - Whitey is very passionate about his causes and if we would all take this stance, the world could potentially become a better place. He might not share the same ideas as you or me or anyone else here; however, he is a human being worthy of respect. As far as I know, he is not guilty of any crime other than (lord forbid) him voicing his opinions on paulding.com. http://paulding.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=206178&view=findpost&p=2723443 You should know Jug that there is a world of difference between posting opinions and posting downright untruths that you don't even have a shred of credible evidence in proving. Link to post Share on other sites
Beach Bum Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 Why do you lump me in with whitey and surepip? Damn excuse me, but I really thought you were knowledgeable of candidate Cochran, I have accused no one of anything, I merely asked a question Good grief excuse me Must you resort to foul language? As to the bolded section above, I direct you to YOUR post # 77 of this thread and YOUR sentence quoted below: "Does not take a rocket scientist to figure out the connection between Cochran and Shearin." Link to post Share on other sites
Jughaid Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 You should know Jug that there is a world of difference between posting opinions and posting downright untruths that you don't even have a shred of credible evidence in proving. All I said was that Whitey had a right to voice his opinion. You said that before. However, I will make certain that you are reminded next time that opinions are not worth putting out there without credible evidence. I will make sure. Link to post Share on other sites
Beach Bum Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 All I said was that Whitey had a right to voice his opinion. You said that before. However, I will make certain that you are reminded next time that opinions are not worth putting out there without credible evidence. I will make sure. Not a problem! Link to post Share on other sites
Dreamwriter Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 Do you have any idea what kind of a package it was, If their was one? I am not ticked off at Jerry as you allege,fact is I am not trying to smear anyone, But rather attempting to let all citizens know all about all of the candidates running for the County Commissioners post. Ithy you know from the past that all Local races are not moved to the political forum Yeah, I keep forgetting that the liberal bias continues. Link to post Share on other sites
Cabe Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 Just goes to show you how dense I am, All along I thought whitey was trying to show that Cochran. While working with Shearin, Knew about some of the distasteful things that went on during that administration, and was proving that she went along with the misdeeds without objections. I saw where whitey posted something about the infamous e-mail that Todd Pownall spoke about at a commissioners meeting, do you know if Cochran was in the loop and received a copy of this e-mail Whitey has NO proof of what she knew or didn't know. It's all PURE conjecture. Since no one even knows the source of the leaked email there isn't a way to prove any of it. Whitey just seems fond of continuing with that line. Why do you lump me in with whitey and surepip? Damn excuse me, but I really thought you were knowledgeable of candidate Cochran, I have accused no one of anything, I merely asked a question Good grief excuse me My first thought was "wow, looks who's back" and "oh yeah, it's election time". Link to post Share on other sites
Dreamwriter Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 And according to Ithy it's just you, Whitey and me that caused Jerry to lose his job. Evidently the majority of the voters thought he was a scoundrel. Maybe someone should tell Ithy the old "birds of a feather" theory. And possibly why don't you stop calling me ithy, it proves your ignorance every time. Link to post Share on other sites
Dreamwriter Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 Okay, where shall we start? Guess we can start with this one: http://paulding.com/forum/index.php?/topic/243670-local-political-races/ HERE, AND I QUOTE YOU WHITEY, ARE SOME OF YOUR REPLIES IN THIS THREAD: "I hope Beverly Cochran does run on the job that she performed as Adminstrative Assistant to Jerry Shearin. Question........ Did Beverly speak up when the adminstration attempted to delay the tax increase until after the primary election??? oh, of course i know that answer, She did not have any knowledge of it right???????" First off I am not endorsing anyone in this commissioners race, Secondly if posting what I know about any candidate in any of the races make me a "mean, grumpy old man" Then so be it, I can accept that criticism and move on. AND YET ANOTHER ONE OF YOUR QUOTES WHITEY: "Regardless of what I say, Beverly can not hide from the fact that she was part and parcel of the Jerry Shearin Adminstration, If the citizens of Paulding County want ro elect someone that was part of the good ole boy's network, They certaintly have that right, I also have the right to voice my opposition to her being elected. It would be a total waste of my time to meet Beverly, Since I have knowledge of what her positions are and what she stands for. Having been a County employee for many years, And particularly a part of a adminstration that raised taxes every year except the last year of her employment with the county, That is really all that I need to know. As previously stated Beverly Cochran seems to be a very nice person, But......That does not qualify her to be a Commissioner,Now does it? Furthermore the present Paulding County Commissioners chose not to continue her employment with the County, As well as other high level personnell , I wonder why?? Just for you" AND YET ANOTHER QUOTE FROM YOU WHITEY: "GOP Rules As far as I am concerned Todd Pownell, Adam Gregory, And Beverly Cochran Can all Denounce me all that they care too, And so can the other supporters of Beverly Cochran, I have no intentions whatsoever from backing away from this race. You and the good ole boys network I see have come to the rescue of of your favorite candidate and I could care less about this also. Beverly Cochran as I have stated previously appears to be a nice person, However her past association with an adminstration that has literally bankrupt this County should be taken into consideration when considering whom to vote for. Furthermore Beverly Cochran had much more influence on the running of the County other than preparing the minutes,and the agenda items,As previously stated in an earlier post, In fact she was much more than a "clerk" as has been alluded too in a previous post. So it is okay for the good ole boys to malign and denounce Mr. Stout for his actions, A typical right wing tatic But please do not talk about Beverly WOW just WOW. For your information I am also a Christian, Father, Grandfather And Great Grandfather and this has nothing to do with me being qualified to become a commissioner, Or make citizens aware of the past actions of any candidate." Spin it all you want Whitey but with these comments, I am of the opinion that you are obviously linking Jerry Shearin and Beverly Cochran, thereby bringing Jerry into the campaign. As to the campaign contributions, you might want to take the time to research this further - could be that this person might have contributed to another candidate's campaign in this race also - might have been $100.00 which does not have to be reported. I could probably find more but I want to "get on with my day" and enjoy spending time with my family. Hope you have a good day Whitey. The main bashers of anything GOP in this county is Whitey, Surepip, and Feelip(Always have wondered of the two "pips" are the same or related ) and their hatred Jerry is really pathetic. It shows every time and even of the janitor that worked under the last BOC was to run, they would drum up something on that person so they continue to jab Jerry at all cost. Of course they use this site to do so and to be honest, after awhile, it gets very annoying. Instead of sticking to the present people running, getting to know them and what they stand for doesn't mean much for any of them. It is one of many reasons people get turned off with politics when other rake candidates through the ringer when someone like Beverly had nothing to do with the decisions made by the BOC. I mean geesh guys, get over yourselves. Link to post Share on other sites
Dreamwriter Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 He had to be working with someone to get an "Inter-Office Email", wouldn't you think? Otherwise, he would have had to hack into their computer systems to get it, right? That would be a felony! Back to our previous discussion, when J/S was running for office I recieved several invites to fund raising events for J/S at the Hardy's. I even went to one and quickly realized how freaking boring they were! I never recieved one from D/A during his campaign and having a sign in front of a business, in County/State right-of-way (which they had permits to do), does not require permission from that business. J/S had a sign right in front of his daughter's office where D/A worked. I have recieved an invite from T/P for a fund raiser event at the Hardy's home. Those are the facts I have stated before and they are still the facts. You may make judgement for yourself, like you normally do! Now I ask you the same question I did before, the one you are side-stepping. What does J/S have to do with this election? Please provide proof, not accusations! Good point. That's right, she was an ADMINSTRATIVE ASSISTANT....meaning she was an employee! Whitey, did you not work for an auto maker years back? Maybe we can now blane you for GM taking our tax money for their bailout? Did you have a checking account with a major bank? So it's your fault the banks needed $$Billions$$ (some say TRILLIONS) in federal bailout money? Do you see how silly that sounds? So does your accusations! Link to post Share on other sites
Dreamwriter Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 Powderspringsdad in regards to your question I really do not feel as if I owe Winchester anything,Since he bounces in and makes wild asserations like he has in post # 59 of this thread, And then bounces back out without any explination. Having said that,And in response to your query In is a know fact That Beverly Cochran was the adminstrative assisstant to Jerry Shearin for his eight year term in office, And in particular during the period of time in which the Shearin adminstration was attempting to circumvent State Law on proposed tax increases in the year 2008. The records also reflect campaign contributions to at least one of the candidates, Which can be verified at the voter registration office. Other than that, I do not recall tying Jerry Shearin into this campaign Maybe BB and yourself can point out where I have done so? Now.............. I will say this, It appears to me that The post 3 and post 4 races also have some influence being applied from a prior Adminstration, However I am not prepared to discuss those issues at this time, Need to check into some further details first Well heck, why don't we just not vote in Commissioners and just allow adminstrative assisstant makes the decisions. Geesh... Link to post Share on other sites
surepip Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 Whitey has NO proof of what she knew or didn't know. It's all PURE conjecture. Since no one even knows the source of the leaked email there isn't a way to prove any of it. Whitey just seems fond of continuing with that line. My first thought was "wow, looks who's back" and "oh yeah, it's election time". No conjecture. In her position as the BOC Chairman's assistant she was privy to every email he got.....even if got temporary amnesia about the email when confronted at the BOC meeting Mr Pownall addresses in regards to the attempted back door tax increase. I for one personnally had other "challenges" with Ms Cochran in my contacts with the BOC concerning my suits, during King Jerry's tenure, and during the transition period before she move to the DA office. This included emails deleted from the system, phone calls made to David Austin of which no records show them, and twice when I personnally left a business card with a note for David Austin at the BOC office, but the card, or message never made its way to Mr Austin's desk. I cannot say exactly WHO went out of their way to make sure those messages disappeared, but I can only think of one individual who had a purpose to do so. Beverly Cochran sat in on every BOC Executive Session, all the BOC meetings held behind closed doors before the official meetings, and any/all correspondence to and from the Chairmans's office. She was, and as far as I am concerned, IS, King Jerry's PROTEGE', plain and simple. IF you want to believe otherwise, then fine.....by all means vote for her. If you want King Jerry's presence back on the BOC then go ahead and vote for her. If you want to prune back some more of the Good 'Ole Boy influence on the BOC, then DO NOT vote for her. It is that plain and simple. I find most of these discussions to be absurd. Like saying Cheney and Bush were not a pair either. Or on down the list. For anyone who had to deal with the BOC while King Jerry and Beverly were there in charge, it was very, very evident what was going on and how hard Beverly worked to protect and look after King Jerry and his regime. She was indeed the "Princess", and I am certain would love to come back as a BOC member as the "Queen". And that would take us right back to where we were with King Jerry and the ROBBER BARON MEGA DEVELOPERS having the final say on everything of substance which happens in Paulding. Link to post Share on other sites
Dreamwriter Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 (edited) Why are you continually harassing whitey? He has answered all of your questions; Beach bum even posted some of whiteys answers for you. It Does not take a rocket scientist to figure out the connection between Cochran and Shearin. So tell us ole wise one on how Assistants make laws. We will wait patiently for your answer. Edited May 23, 2010 by PraiseThee Link to post Share on other sites
Cabe Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 No conjecture. In her position as the BOC Chairman's assistant she was privy to every email he got.....even if got temporary amnesia about the email when confronted at the BOC meeting Mr Pownall addresses in regards to the attempted back door tax increase. I can assure you that I (for one) am not privy to EVERY email my boss receives. It's presumptuous to assume that she was as well. Link to post Share on other sites
surepip Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 I can assure you that I (for one) am not privy to EVERY email my boss receives. It's presumptuous to assume that she was as well. I suggest you check out how your emails reach the commissioners then. Link to post Share on other sites
Beach Bum Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 No conjecture. In her position as the BOC Chairman's assistant she was privy to every email he got.....even if got temporary amnesia about the email when confronted at the BOC meeting Mr Pownall addresses in regards to the attempted back door tax increase. I for one personnally had other "challenges" with Ms Cochran in my contacts with the BOC concerning my suits, during King Jerry's tenure, and during the transition period before she move to the DA office. This included emails deleted from the system, phone calls made to David Austin of which no records show them, and twice when I personnally left a business card with a note for David Austin at the BOC office, but the card, or message never made its way to Mr Austin's desk. I cannot say exactly WHO went out of their way to make sure those messages disappeared, but I can only think of one individual who had a purpose to do so. Beverly Cochran sat in on every BOC Executive Session, all the BOC meetings held behind closed doors before the official meetings, and any/all correspondence to and from the Chairmans's office. She was, and as far as I am concerned, IS, King Jerry's PROTEGE', plain and simple. IF you want to believe otherwise, then fine.....by all means vote for her. If you want King Jerry's presence back on the BOC then go ahead and vote for her. If you want to prune back some more of the Good 'Ole Boy influence on the BOC, then DO NOT vote for her. It is that plain and simple. I find most of these discussions to be absurd. Like saying Cheney and Bush were not a pair either. Or on down the list. For anyone who had to deal with the BOC while King Jerry and Beverly were there in charge, it was very, very evident what was going on and how hard Beverly worked to protect and look after King Jerry and his regime. She was indeed the "Princess", and I am certain would love to come back as a BOC member as the "Queen". And that would take us right back to where we were with King Jerry and the ROBBER BARON MEGA DEVELOPERS having the final say on everything of substance which happens in Paulding. How do you know she was privy email to his email and please provide all the readers of p.com proof of that. And all I can say surepip is that I wouldn't have dared put these accusations in writing unless I have full and complete proof that I am willing to share with everyone who might be reading this - but that is just me. You know surepip, we on p.com are only hearing your side of the story when it comes to your ongoing law suit against the county and I really find it amazing (for various reasons) that you continue airing it out here. It will most likely be up to a Jury (unless it is by chance settled before) to decide and really, after all this, just think about the Jury selection phase of the trial in your case.................. I suggest you check out how your emails reach the commissioners then. That proves absolutely nothing! Link to post Share on other sites
DOT Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 I have read this entire thread tonight and I agree that some questions need to be answered; Beverly Cochran needs to respond to this thread ASAP Link to post Share on other sites
Beach Bum Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 I have read this entire thread tonight and I agree that some questions need to be answered; Beverly Cochran needs to respond to this thread ASAP She might not even read p.com - there are lots of people that don't! Maybe if YOU have any questions, YOU might consider simply picking up the phone and calling her or sending her, or any other candidate in any race for that matter, an email. As I stated earlier, it is a candidate's choice as to whether or not they campaign here and thus far, it doesn't appear that many have chosen to do so. I assume they make calculated, well-thought out decisions on where to spend their campaign dollars and I am not in the position to advise them when and where to spend their campaign money. If you have questions for any of the candidates, you can always take the responsible, pro-active approach and contact them - I'm sure they will make themselves available and be glad to talk to you and give you specific details on what they stand for. Link to post Share on other sites
DOT Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 She might not even read p.com - there are lots of people that don't! Maybe if YOU have any questions, YOU might consider simply picking up the phone and calling her or sending her, or any other candidate in any race for that matter, an email. As I stated earlier, it is a candidate's choice as to whether or not they campaign here and thus far, it doesn't appear that many have chosen to do so. I assume they make calculated, well-thought out decisions on where to spend their campaign dollars and I am not in the position to advise them when and where to spend their campaign money. If you have questions for any of the candidates, you can always take the responsible, pro-active approach and contact them - I'm sure they will make themselves available and be glad to talk to you and give you specific details on what they stand for. Are you her campaign manager? You sure do seem to be responding to a lot of the questions being directed at her, do you know if she was in receipt of an e-mail that Maddox spoke of in a previous post?I am talking about the one that Todd Pownall asked Jerry Shearin about 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Beach Bum Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 Are you her campaign manager? You sure do seem to be responding to a lot of the questions being directed at her, do you know if she was in receipt of an e-mail that Maddox spoke of in a previous post?I am talking about the one that Todd Pownall asked Jerry Shearin about I have nothing to do with her campaign or anyone else's for that matter. I am simply attempting to be fair and objective. I have no clue whether or not she was in receipt of the email you are talking about. I have not accused her of being in receipt of any email so therefore, the burden of proof is not mine - it lies with the ones accusing her. Link to post Share on other sites
DOT Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 I have nothing to do with her campaign or anyone else's for that matter. I am simply attempting to be fair and objective. I have no clue whether or not she was in receipt of the email you are talking about. I have not accused her of being in receipt of any email so therefore, the burden of proof is not mine - it lies with the ones accusing her. Sound a little bias to me Link to post Share on other sites
Cabe Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 Are you her campaign manager? You sure do seem to be responding to a lot of the questions being directed at her, do you know if she was in receipt of an e-mail that Maddox spoke of in a previous post?I am talking about the one that Todd Pownall asked Jerry Shearin about I'm sure her email and phone numbers are readily accessible. Why don't you call her and ask her. No, I'm not her campaign manager. But I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express one time. Link to post Share on other sites
Beach Bum Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 Sound a little bias to me I would defend ANY candidate if I thought untruths were being said about them. Link to post Share on other sites
gpatt0n Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 Wow... First, I don't think that Jerry Shearin has much to do with this election. The plain fact is that Jerry is not a builder nor is his business centered in Paulding to any great degree. I say that with full knowledge of his efforts to get some stimulus money for a fiber-optic network for the north west Georgia area that would presumably include Paulding. Paulding is not central or critical to that project. Beyond that, his business(es) are in Florida and with some elements in Alabama. The point is that the influence of Jerry Shearin in this race is not, in my opinion, much. I believe he is on record having given a contribution to Adam Gregory of a couple of hundred dollars but in a conversation with him, I'm told that Beverly Cochran hasn't even asked him for a campaign donation. In a conversation I had with him, I think he might contribute as he was careful to note that when he donated funds to Gregory, Adam was the only candidate announced or expected to announce as Don Powell had mentioned his intention to not run for re-election. So it would not appear that Jerry has his finger directly in the pie. That said, the understanding of politics is such that it is based on a network of friends and the more more influential those friends are the better. There is no doubt that as the commission clerk and Mr. Shearin's assistant, Ms. Cochran was well acquainted with many, many influential people. Knowing the current power elite in the community is an asset to the aspiring politician as those friendships and contacts are exceptionally valuable. Indeed, in the case of Ms. Cochran, because of her position as the chairman's assistant in both the Carruth and Shearin administrations, she would have come to know the broadest possible cross section. That knowledge doesn't, however, presume anything more than there are those with whom you are copacetic and those whom you know you have to be careful I would suggest that the other candidates are similarly knowledgeable in regard those who constitute the power elite - though their realm of contacts will be different. It would be silly also to assume that there are not new and different power centers in the county including the new residents in the cedarcrest/senators ridge area of the county. I mean, the county has grown dramatically over the past twenty-five years and, bye and bye, there are new constituencies that are demanding a voice. So what does this mean? I think it would be fair to say that if Beverly were elected, both Jerry Shearin, Bill Carruth and a ton of their friends in the county would be comfortable with Beverly on the commission. I think it would be just as fair to say that I don't think that David Austin would be that comfortable given he was responsible for moving Beverly out of the commission job. I also don't think that the other candidates for Post 2 (or their backers) would be comfortable. But all that said, I don't think it would be fair to disqualify someone for office because of the people they associate with. But then, knowing who associates with a candidate - who supports them - can help others decide. For instance it wouldn't take much more than having Ithy support you to lose my vote pubby Link to post Share on other sites
rockster Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 For instance it wouldn't take much more than having Ithy support you to lose my vote LMAO!!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Cabe Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 For instance it wouldn't take much more than having Ithy support you to lose my vote pubby Hardly seems like a wise comment (toward anyone) considering your business model. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
bellaprincess Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 Wow... First, I don't think that Jerry Shearin has much to do with this election. The plain fact is that Jerry is not a builder nor is his business centered in Paulding to any great degree. I say that with full knowledge of his efforts to get some stimulus money for a fiber-optic network for the north west Georgia area that would presumably include Paulding. Paulding is not central or critical to that project. Beyond that, his business(es) are in Florida and with some elements in Alabama. The point is that the influence of Jerry Shearin in this race is not, in my opinion, much. I believe he is on record having given a contribution to Adam Gregory of a couple of hundred dollars but in a conversation with him, I'm told that Beverly Cochran hasn't even asked him for a campaign donation. In a conversation I had with him, I think he might contribute as he was careful to note that when he donated funds to Gregory, Adam was the only candidate announced or expected to announce as Don Powell had mentioned his intention to not run for re-election. So it would not appear that Jerry has his finger directly in the pie. That said, the understanding of politics is such that it is based on a network of friends and the more more influential those friends are the better. There is no doubt that as the commission clerk and Mr. Shearin's assistant, Ms. Cochran was well acquainted with many, many influential people. Knowing the current power elite in the community is an asset to the aspiring politician as those friendships and contacts are exceptionally valuable. Indeed, in the case of Ms. Cochran, because of her position as the chairman's assistant in both the Carruth and Shearin administrations, she would have come to know the broadest possible cross section. That knowledge doesn't, however, presume anything more than there are those with whom you are copacetic and those whom you know you have to be careful I would suggest that the other candidates are similarly knowledgeable in regard those who constitute the power elite - though their realm of contacts will be different. It would be silly also to assume that there are not new and different power centers in the county including the new residents in the cedarcrest/senators ridge area of the county. I mean, the county has grown dramatically over the past twenty-five years and, bye and bye, there are new constituencies that are demanding a voice. So what does this mean? I think it would be fair to say that if Beverly were elected, both Jerry Shearin, Bill Carruth and a ton of their friends in the county would be comfortable with Beverly on the commission. I think it would be just as fair to say that I don't think that David Austin would be that comfortable given he was responsible for moving Beverly out of the commission job. I also don't think that the other candidates for Post 2 (or their backers) would be comfortable. But all that said, I don't think it would be fair to disqualify someone for office because of the people they associate with. But then, knowing who associates with a candidate - who supports them - can help others decide. For instance it wouldn't take much more than having Ithy support you to lose my vote pubby You are kidding right? Now I know you are not but to come right out and say that It is really not nice to take shots at anyone,especially being the owner of this board and having rules in place for others not to do that. If I was a candidate and saw the owner or anyone employed with the company talking bad about someone or saying they wouldn't vote for me because an individual resident of Paulding is,I would not be inclined to come here and advertise or even speak with that company. JMO 3 Link to post Share on other sites
LPPT Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 Most everyone in the county has the opportunity to vote in July myself included. I am not only concerned with my post, but those that are elected in other post. You are effected by the decisions the BOC makes. I have certain criteria that I am using to try and make up my mind based on what I know, I am going to share it and hope that others will chime in and fill in any blanks or let me know if I have something wrong here. Let me say that I have been pretty impressed with the current BOC. First of all the way they handled something that could not have had any experience with which was thee flood is to be commended. They have also done pretty well with budget cuts. They are focused at this on economic development. So everyone understands a politician is someone you elect to spend your tax money, make no mistake about it. I believe that our current BOC took a long look at many projects that were in the works when they came in and made sure we were getting the price possible for our tax dollars, I know that some of these projects were changed to make sure that we did. My understanding is that these are the major projects in the works for economic development. The hospital will bring in thousands of living wage jobs to boost the local economy, I would be concerned over any shenanigans, or manipulating that might cause problems with it. The rail spur which has the potential to bring warehousing and light industrial to our area also has the potential to create thousands of living wage jobs and boost the economy. The correct development of this is critical to it's success. The airport will grow if the economic development in other areas is done correctly, especially getting national and international companies to invest here. The reservoir creates more opportunities for a wider range of industry to locate here. For me I am looking at candidates that are intelligent enough to understand the laws that govern how and what we can do developing these areas. I am looking at whether I think they will serve me by doing projects that will benefit the majority of us in the county rather than benefiting a minority that has influence over them. I do look at what they have been doing in the private sector there companies if they have them, their associates that may or may not be looking for favors. Do I think they will be selfish only serving the people of their post with little pet projects, instead the county as a whole. Infrastructure at this point is critical for future economic development. Roads being at the top of list. For me as much of our tax money as possible needs to spent on this if this county is to prosper. Many of the issues that we have at this point and time will be solved in the future if we stay on this path of economic development and investing in it. Right now as far as I can see the splost is critical, I am listening to those in office and running, I do not want to see it squandered. I had questions about the fiber optic project and intend to ask more about it, but from everything I have heard and from some I trust it would seem that it is important to our economic growth, and I am assuming will help us attract the most desirable industries to our county. We are also looking at the district 19 race, we have got to send competent people to the state house to get the support that we need for our projects. Here on the west side we are also voting for senate. As far as I am concerned it has never been more critical that we take a long hard look at the people running for these seats. We need sharp intelligent people that will represent the people of this county well when talking to companies and international companies that are looking at us. Someone that will bring successful businesses here, that will always put the majority of the people first, and especially not get caught up in petty power struggles that hurt us all. Please take every opportunity to talk to these people and examine them closely, think about how they will fit in the current situation we are in, take time to educate yourself about what is currently planned and judge for yourself if a candidate will take us forward into a good future or backwards into struggling to keep our heads above water. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Dreamwriter Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 You are kidding right? Now I know you are not but to come right out and say that It is really not nice to take shots at anyone,especially being the owner of this board and having rules in place for others not to do that. If I was a candidate and saw the owner or anyone employed with the company talking bad about someone or saying they wouldn't vote for me because an individual resident of Paulding is,I would not be inclined to come here and advertise or even speak with that company. JMO That is because Pat is a hardcore liberal socialist and I am a Conservtive Republican. So I expect him to say that. It is nothing new, really. Link to post Share on other sites
surepip Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 That is because Pat is a hardcore liberal socialist and I am a Conservtive Republican. So I expect him to say that. It is nothing new, really. And your comments sums it all up Ithy. Pat is not a hardcore liberal socialist. But you have to summarize him in your terms and add adjectives as you feel necessary because he does not agree with you! For instance it wouldn't take much more than having Ithy support you to lose my vote /quote] And I am 100% with Patton on this one. Just because ITHY supports someone is enough reason for me to not. About like you fanatics and your feelings about voting for a Dem. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
LPPT Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 Before this goes any further lets put the issue of Praise thee and the owner of this site in perspective. The publisher of Paulding. com has always been the Publisher. He never logs in invisible, if he is on and he is watching you know it. He does not change his name ever and is out in the open on anything most of the time and you know where he stands. He does not seek to force anyone to agree with him. He allows all within reason to publish their thoughts and opinions. Even people that disagree with him and seek to discredit him. It is not necessary for him to agree with you to post and participate. He and Praise thee have had a long term term antagonistic relationship that can easily be researched by anyone that cares to. I frequently do not agree with either one. Like who cares, but there is more to it than the current appearance. The fact that Praise thee still has a membership here tells you everything you need to know about wthat is important to the publisher and owner of this site. Nobody controls this site, not the politicians, the local papers or even the advertisers here. Now if you can't see the benefit to the community in that then there is nothing more for me to say. Link to post Share on other sites
gpatt0n Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 And Surepip is right ... while Ithy insists on defining me as a hardcore liberal socialist and himself as a conservative Republican, the greater truth is that he is more a teaparty revolutionary and, if you saw the cuts I recommended in the balance the budget game, you'd almost swear I was Zell Miller. pubby PS: Since Ithy doesn't exist and has never existed as a name on pcom, I'm really having a problem understanding how you are so sure whom I'm speaking of. Could Ithy have been transformed into a new, composite identity by forces and elements unknown and misunderstood? Link to post Share on other sites
AcworthDad Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 (edited) <br /><img src='http://paulding.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> <-- denotes humor. <br /><br />And Surepip is right ... while Ithy insists on defining me as a hardcore liberal socialist and himself as a conservative Republican, the greater truth is that he is more a teaparty revolutionary and, if you saw the cuts I recommended in the balance the budget game, you'd almost swear I was Zell Miller. <br /><br />pubby<br /><br />PS: Since Ithy doesn't exist and has never existed as a name on pcom, I'm really having a problem understanding how you are so sure whom I'm speaking of. Could Ithy have been transformed into a new, composite identity by forces and elements unknown and misunderstood?<br /><br /><br /><br /> Very creative answer but sneaky...not quite as indirect and sneaky as EB/WT/Postman's signature regarding conservatives being stupid and then saying that his quote is not directed at anyone in particular. Edited May 23, 2010 by PowderSpringsDad Link to post Share on other sites
D-Dawg Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 Why are you continually harassing whitey? He has answered all of your questions; Beach bum even posted some of whitey’s answers for you. It Does not take a rocket scientist to figure out the connection between Cochran and Shearin. No, Whitey has not answered any questions. He started this and I'm just trying to get him to prove his accusations. He's not answering them because he cannot! The ONLY connect between Cochran and Shearin is employee/employer, that is all! Link to post Share on other sites
LPPT Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 C|Ver creative answer but sneaky...not quite as indirect and sneaky as EB/WT/Postman's signature regarding conservatives being stupid and then saying that his quote is not directed at anyone in particular. The new board has a feature that allows one to see a person's name change history. the references to Ithy have to do with a history of name changes. I really am not interested in going back years to watch someone's changes, but this is where the reference comes from. Link to post Share on other sites
D-Dawg Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 Just goes to show you how dense I am, All along I thought whitey was trying to show that Cochran. While working with Shearin, Knew about some of the distasteful things that went on during that administration, and was proving that she went along with the misdeeds without objections. I saw where whitey posted something about the infamous e-mail that Todd Pownall spoke about at a commissioners meeting, do you know if Cochran was in the loop and received a copy of this e-mail Yes, Cochran was an EMPLOYEE of the BOC at that time, and for many years before and after this, even worked under Bill Carruth. It doesn't matter if she knew anything about it or not, because she has never been in a decision making position....she was an employee. She did what she was TOLD to do, just like any employee of ANY business. She could not have spoken out about this issue without fear of being fired! If you were at risk of loosing your job, would you speak out? People are trying to read a whole lot more into this issue then needs to be. It really is a non-issue to begin with and is only trying to smear a candidate who is running against someone else they are supporting. And this doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out! But let me explain a little about that email in question. The County was wanting clarification if they needed to run print advertising (at the expense of the County) if the "Millage" rate did not change for that year. The law requires public advertising if the "Millage" rate changes, which it didn't. Again, a mountain was made of a molehill! Link to post Share on other sites
Cabe Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 The issue of HOW Todd Pownall came into possession of an interoffice email has been glossed over. Makes me wonder what's in this for him. How he became the mouth at that meeting to out the email. Just things that still make me go hmmmmmmmmmmm. Link to post Share on other sites
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