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You people get entertained by an ant farting. Get a life
You’re right in here with us. Get a life.
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Very, very interesting and thank you so much.
There may well have been a touch of green, but I didn't catch it. The pale flashes was barely visible - I had to concentrate to see it, but I was intrigued by the rhythmic pattern. I knew I'd be asking people what it could be, so I was trying to be very observant. (I suspected I'd be labeled a loon... hehehe)
I'm relieved to know that this beacon has only been operational for a short while. I consider myself to be more observant than to have missed it for 5 years!
Any other interesting info I'd enjoy knowing as I stare in that direction this spring/summer? Just full of questions, aren't I?
The “rabbit” is always cool to see when you break out at minimums, but Paulding’s airport doesn’t have a “rabbit”.
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YES, the beam IS just above the tree line and IS constant in it's track. It was obvious that every other flash/pass was less bright/a bit smaller than the alternate ones. I don't know what I thought a light from the airport would look like, but I guess I assumed what it was would be consistent every night.
It was unique in that it was ONLY just above the tree line... not starting there and lighting up the whole sky... It was wide and not very tall.
OK... OK... Send the folks with the white jacket.
That is the airport beacon, the dim flash is the green side of the beacon.
Ok now count the flashes. 24 flashes per min. or 12 FPM on the "bright" flash?????? YEP it's the airport.
I don’t know how long it has been in service but I would venture to say not long. With the spring and summer months approaching they bring high humidity which makes the beam more noticeable.
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It is the equivalent of me or any other officer riding around at Ohdarkthirty in the super8, Holiday Inn and other motel parking lots running 28s all night long, just faster and it doesn’t Po the dispatchers
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I could care less about the cops having this equipment, I do not like the thought of them being mounted on poles for the next step. They could track your every move and even compare the time it takes to travel between two that are in a known location. I can even see speeding tickets by mail in the future.
Oh don’t worry, when they implement the “carbon tax” based on miles driven and your car is outfitted with the necessary equipment to support this operation THEN government will track your every move.
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If they are the ones MFG by world candy out of NYC they are awesome, they would be the kinda thin ones. The other kind are thicker and taste nasty, they will not “melt” in your mouth like the other ones do, I don’t know who makes those. But I can tell you where you can buy the “world candy” ones by the case.
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<Backingout<<<<<<<<<>>> Low on giveaschite after battle in the last thread that turned into a bashfest><<<<<<<<<
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Would the light show up differently because of dense clouds? I sit outside at night often and have never seen this.
Is the beam just above the tree line and constant in it’s track? The beacon would show more prominently in fog or high humidity. Look close, after the white flash do you see another faint flash?
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I don’t see it catching on. I think it will go the way of Lo-Jack. Waaaaaaay too pricy for the results it is likely to produce.
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,,,,but nor am I too fond of tornadoes.
It is freaking me out that 11Alive news has a reporter stationed here and keeps using us as reference for the storm about to come by here in about 35 minutes.
I normally would blow this watch off and go to bed......but now I think I am staying up.
Does this bother anyone else? Do you think they know something we don't?
Looking at the radar and the prog charts, I dont think any bad stuff going to make it our way.
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How did post #11 become post #30?
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Is there a FREE spreadsheet program? How do I know which one to trust? When I had to take my computer to the big blue & yellow box store for service they had to replace the mother board 2 times and neither time did they re-install "Microsoft Works Program" therefore, I do NOT have a spreadsheet program on my computer. I need one fast. What to do???
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Okay pal. Hand me your license, run inside and take care of business.
I can always check his story out. If he lies to me, I've got his license AND his vehicle. If not, it's all good and he may or may not get a citation.
That's 25 years talking, not someone on a power trip.
Exactly.
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Even after the officer was made aware of the situation (even by a nurse and another officer) the cop continued. I am normally among the first to jump to the defense of officers but this guy went too far. No way he should be fired, though (unless he has a history of complaints).
Yes I know you are one of the few pro LE folks on the board.
Like I said, I would have probably handled it differently. A he stated in the video while talking to another officer, in his 3 year career he had only been involved in one other failure to yield incident. Response to situations like these come only with experience, it is not something that can be mastered in a few simulated incidents during the academy. He COULD HAVE handled it differently, the driver COULD HAVE waited on the light to change.
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If the guy would have stopped and waited for the light to change he would have been at the hospital long before he actually did get there drawing the attention of law enforcement.. The officer did his job; there is no legal justification for violation of the law. Another case of people trying to make their own rules and then blame someone else when things don’t go their own way. I am not saying I would have handled the situation the same way, but I have a few more years experience under my belt than that officer does. The officer violated NO laws that I can tell and it is questionable if he violated any policy and for his agency to go public with an apology before the conclusion of the IA is cowardice on the part of the administration. Like the officer explained in the second part of the video, if a situation comes up like that again stop and inform the officer of what is happening, but as you can see in the video the driver states “I aint got time for that”; so if you want to make your own rules you will suffer the consequences.
Now if the guy had just committed a armed robbery or murder and the officer took the drivers story at face value, then the driver goes into the hospital and takes a hostage or something ,then who would be at fault, the officer I’m sure.
Bottom line is officers die when they lose control of or let a subject take control of a situation.
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If you are flying Delta, have no fear of the engine going. I know one of the guys who works on them and he is quite the stickler for perfection...
It is not the engine I’m concerned about.
Old news but makes you go UMMMM
ap/nyt
"The Federal Aviation Administration on Friday revoked the certificate of a Delta Air Lines captain who mistakenly shut off both engines of his jet airliner shortly after takeoff, causing the plane to plunge to within 500 feet of the Pacific Ocean"
As far as seats go, I prefer the front left if that is not available then the front right, if I cannot have those I prefer a seat over the wing. There is an exit there that I can open in case of an emergency.
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But what if it's the pilots time and your just along for the ride?
HEY, the big guy put everyone on the same bus for a reason......DESTINATION.
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We are damned if we do and damned if we dont.
New Orleans Officer Fired for Not Discharging Gun Fights Back:
Patrolling Algiers one August night, New Orleans police officer Stephen Neveaux and his partner hear a series of explosions. He drives toward the noise.
Soon, they see a man standing about 50 feet away in the street, pointing a gun. Pop, pop.
The police car pushes on. The gunman glances at the cops, then turns and fires twice again into darkness.
Neveaux, a 26-year-old officer with less than four years' experience, hesitates. A shooting -- the first he's ever witnessed -- unfolds right in front of him, but in his mind, it all seems surreal.
The moment cut to the essence of being a police officer in a city with about 200 murders and hundreds more shootings every year. A split-second decision can get a cop killed or make him kill; disgrace her or make her a hero; fill him with pride, or doubt and second-guessing.
When Neveaux's moment came that night, he chose to hold his fire and let the car crawl forward. His partner, Officer April Moses, would say later that she tried to step out, but that he ordered her back into the car. He said he thought they needed cover, that they hadn't had time to assess the situation.
Within seconds, the pops stopped. The gunman fled, with Neveaux in pursuit, his partner in the passenger seat.
The gunman dashed into a dark alley, jumped a fence and disappeared into the night. The two novice officers peeled back to the shooting scene in the 5700 block of Tullis Drive and found a man on the ground with a gunshot wound to the leg. They called Emergency Medical Services and assisted the bleeding man, who eventually recovered.
According to the New Orleans Police Department, what Neveaux did was wrong. So wrong, in fact, that internal investigators cited him for cowardice and neglect of duty. High-ranking officials conferred and confirmed. After an administrative hearing, NOPD Superintendent Warren Riley fired Neveaux.
Neveaux's superiors maintain he should have confronted the shooter. He could have fired his weapon, yelled at the suspect, flashed his lights -- or even, as an internal investigator who handled the case argued, thrown a rock at the gunman.
Anything.
After that night, word spread quickly through the station, among the rank-and-file and the bosses. Neveaux's partner, Moses, distanced herself from him. She was never reprimanded or disciplined, though she was transferred to the pawn shop unit. She still agonizes over the shooting, she has since testified.
She regrets not doing more that night. Though Neveaux was not her superior, she said he stopped her from doing the right thing.
The definition of the right thing depends on whom you ask. Shades of gray don't fit well into the black-and-white rules for police conduct.
Pull the trigger, and face the repercussions: the internal investigation, the cloud of scrutiny, the second-guessing. Don't pull the trigger -- and face similar repercussions.
Stephen Neveaux didn't pull the trigger. He pushed the gas pedal. Was that cowardice or caution?
--- Fighting back ---
In the days after his firing, Neveaux chose to fight for his job, appealing the termination to the city's Civil Service Commission. He hired an attorney, a confident cop-turned-lawyer named Eric Hessler.
What Neveaux did was not cowardice, but clear thinking, Hessler said. Neveaux needed a few seconds to grasp the situation, and he rightly held his fire. In giving aid to the gunshot victim, he fulfilled his duty. The lawyer speaks from experience.
Nine years ago, Hessler faced a similar split-second dilemma and did what Neveaux didn't: He shot.
Hessler, then an NOPD officer, had come upon a shooting in progress.
The man firing his weapon, 23-year-old Steven Hawkins, turned toward him and fired, Hessler said. Hessler reached for his service weapon and fired back, hitting Hawkins once and killing him.
After the smoke cleared, police learned Hawkins, a carjacking victim, had been shooting at his attackers in self-defense.
The police chief at the time called the incident tragic, a "police officer's nightmare."
The NOPD stood by Hessler and deemed the shooting justifiable. A grand jury cleared him of criminal charges.
The family of the deceased man sued in civil court, and a judge ordered the city last year to pay $700,000 to the man's parents.
Hessler eventually left the force, earned a law degree and went on to fight in courtrooms and civil service hearings for aggrieved officers, and for criminals as well.
"It changed my life," Hessler said. "No one wants to be put in that situation. But you are just doing your job.
"This is the dilemma that policemen are put into."
Hessler said he was told he should have taken more time to assess the situation. Yet, the immediate and natural instinct of any officer is to protect yourself, he added, and that's what Neveaux did.
"If you are a good policeman, you try to make good decisions," he said. "You sometimes don't know why you do it, but you've got to stick with it."
Since taking up Neveaux's case, Hessler has begun representing some of the officers in the internal investigation of a more high-profile case: the fatal police shooting of 22-year-old Adolph Grimes III on New Year's Day. The department, so far, has stood behind the officers who shot Grimes, saying he shot at police first.
Typically, citizen complaints against police officers revolve around the action they took: too much force, verbal abuse or attitude. Rare is the case in which an officer failed to act.
The NOPD did not respond to requests for comment on this report.
A man was arrested days after the shooting Neveaux witnessed, but his case was dropped by prosecutors.
The department also did not respond to requests for statistics on the number of terminations and investigations conducted each year by the Public Integrity Bureau.
--- Unexpected consequences ---
The disciplinary letter was dated Sept. 24 and addressed to Officer Neveaux. It's a form letter, save for the spots where decision-makers specify which rules were violated.
The department said Neveaux violated the NOPD's regulation outlined in Rule 4, paragraph 4, regarding neglect of duty. In addition, he violated Rule 7, regarding courage. For that, he received a 10-day suspension. The termination made the suspension moot.
Neveaux did not expect that. He had three-and-a-half years on the job. He patrolled, wrote reports and kept his record clean -- no complaints. Until that day. Tales of police chases, shootings and fisticuffs spread fast in police stations. Within days, the whispers got back to Neveaux. Some colleagues even confronted him.
" 'I would have shot him, I would have killed him,' " Neveaux recalled them saying.
"It's easy for everyone to say what they would have done, what I could have done," Neveaux said.
--- Victim upset ---
On Nov. 20, Neveaux walked into the modest civil service hearing room in City Hall, subdued and dressed sharply.
During the following 80 minutes, an appeal hearing, similar to a criminal case, unfolded. Such proceedings are governed by an examiner, who hears testimony and then makes a recommendation to the civil service board, which eventually renders a judgment.
In that hearing, Neveaux's whole career went under the microscope -- but none of it as intensely as the seconds after he saw the man shooting.
Lesia Mims, the police investigator who handled the case, testified Neveaux did nothing to stop the threat.
"In our line of work . . . we don't have time sometimes to think about self-preservation," she said. "We as police officers should -- we have to -- be brave."
Neveaux sat and stared dead ahead at the wall.
Mims mentioned that the gunshot victim was upset and believed police allowed the gunman to shoot him.
Next, Mims described a witness, a man who said he saw everything. Mims said she had asked the man whether Neveaux and Moses had time to stop the shooting.
The man replied: "I don't think so. It happened so fast. I think (the shooter) may have caught them unaware."
That witness also said he heard Moses say minutes after the incident that she had not intended to exit the car amid gunfire -- contradicting her testimony, in which she put blame for inaction on her partner.
According to Mims, the witness heard Moses say: "I'm not getting out of the car. I saw the guy with the gun right in front of me and everything. The gun's blazing, and I don't know if he was going to shoot me or not."
Hessler paced the room, quickly firing questions meant to pierce the internal investigation.
He asked Mims directly: What should Neveaux have done?
She stated his "primary duty" was to "render aid to the victim."
--- Upholding oath ---
Moses testified that the first gunshot came as a shock.
"And then after that, it just -- pretty much everything seemed like it went in slow motion," she said.
Moses said she should have done more.
"There's a lot of 'ifs,' " she said at the hearing.
Moses did not return phone calls seeking additional comment after the hearing.
Deputy Chief Kirk Bouyelas offered a blunt assessment of Neveaux during the hearing.
"He failed. He totally failed in every single aspect of what his job is," Bouyelas said. "It is our job to put ourselves in harm's way . . . that's what we swear an oath to do."
Eventually, Neveaux had his say.
"I didn't even notice the victim until I got on the other side of the block, after going to apprehend the perpetrator," he said. "It all happened in six seconds . . . I didn't realize the victim was shot."
He spoke softly, with his head hanging low.
"I don't think I did anything wrong that night," he said. If it happened again, he said, he'd do the same thing.
He acknowledged that he froze that night. It was the first time he had ever seen a shooting.
"Do you want your job back?" Hessler asked him. "Do you know it's dangerous?"
Neveaux replied: "I wouldn't be sitting here if I didn't."
Neveaux has been anxious since the hearing
"I'm upset, I'm down," he said. "I'm trying to hold my head high."
He is looking for a job. And he wants it to be in law enforcement.
"I loved my job," he said. "I loved solving crime, catching bad guys, helping people, making my neighborhood better."
He hopes he'll win his appeal and be a cop once again. Some people have stood by him; others haven't. He has a message for those who still question his actions that night.
"You can't say what you would have done. You weren't there."
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LOL, come on, whats wrong with the GP100. Built like a tank, can take the 180 grain loads without too much recoil, and lighter then most 44 magnums that are worth a damn. The sp101 3" was next on my list but shooting it with the 180 grain buffalo bores would be a real pain and it only takes 5 rounds, but its lighter. I need to practice with the bullets I plan on shooting. Anyhow, all of this is now not a reality for me so I have to go back on relying on my 3" knife and a BIG hiking stick. Tie both of them together and I have a nice spear
, woulJust picking, I’ve never been a ruger fan except for my 10/22 and mini 14. A friend of mine carried a ruger as a duty weapon for a while; I used to give him a hard time about it. When it comes to wheel guns I am a S&W person all the way.
Sorry about your predicament, don’t stop working on it. You can probably get the record expunged and your rights restored if you keep at it.
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Yup, you can not carry openly with out a carry permit, I guess unless you are hunting or fishing. I guess I could say that I am going fishing and show everyone my fishing permit, but that is pushing it way to far and with 2 kids and a wife I am definitely not going to risk it.
I guess I will have to rely on my good old 3" gerber knife to kill any baddies with if anything ever happens, god forbid. Not very inspiring, but it is what it is and I will just have to roll with it.
If anyone wanted to know, I was going to get the Ruger GP100 3" revolver and load it with 180grain buffalo boars for protection in these georgia woods, that should take care of any of our local animal predators and will definitely take care of any of the 2 legged variety predators. It would also help me sleep better at night when I am deep in the woods. But it is my fault and I am not going to whine about it, it just gets me so damned mad that people who commit far worst crimes then I commit are able to still get their permit. So be it, things always happen for a reason.
That’s reason enough for a permit denial right there.
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Thank you very much for the info! My kids would love to do this We live close to McCollum and plane watch often
The Cobb composite squadron meets at the National Guard armory across the street from McCollum every Thursday at 1900. A very active squadron especially with the cadets., stop by and check us out.
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Check out what Jack Cafferty's new book, "Now or Never." says about parenting, this man is my new hero for putting into words what I think everytime I go out to a public place that doesn't require you to be 21 or older to get through the front door.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/03/03/caffe...pt.2/index.html
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This makes me miss my Dad. He flew a p-47 during WWII and was a plane fanatic. He was a member of EAA and built a Davis DA-2A in our backyard. He built a hangar first! Then before he died he began to work on a scaled down P-47. He and Mom used to go to Lakeland and he went with some buddies to Oshkosh a couple of times.
He loved his planes.
Your dad’s generation gave us some of the best pilots we have ever known. I have been fortunate to know several from that generation. They are a font of knowledge, not only in the aviation field but life in general, a resource that is rapidly becoming extinct. The Thunderbolt (jug) and Mustang drivers have always held a special place in my mental aviation hall of fame, those who know or have known anyone who has been there will understand why. This is a generation that was/is the epitome of duty, honor, courage and patriotism. (IMHO)
P-47 aka "JUG"
Davis DA-2A
I just left the pcom office....
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OH lawd, if she only knew.......