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  1. If that is your standard of morality, then fine by me.

     

    Just remember, that we should treat others as we want to be treated.

     

    I know how I would want to be treated if I were the victim of a stabbing.

     

    Should we criminalize not rendering aid? There already are laws about that, but I don't think there is any use in discussing that at this point. Required by law to stop & render aid? No. Morally, how could we not? But once help is givin, most states have Good Samaritan Laws to protect the person rendering aid.

    Before you start preaching morality to me, let me give you a little background. I have been in public safety for 20 years both fire and law enforcement. I help strangers every day. But when/ if the time comes I choose to stop I don’t want the government telling me that I do not have that option. Also I would like to know under what code Georgia requires someone to “render aid” in a situation like this?

  2. The Good Samaritan Law protects those seeking to render aid.

     

    Declines to get involved? Had they simply =called 911= the lady may have survived. Not even calling for aid? Not trying to help her? That is not even showing an ounce of human decency. And to make pics & a video of her dying? They =allowed= her to die.

    Good Samaritan laws are on the books. That does not mean that you cannot still be sued and incur lost wages and major expenses in defense of your actions. I have seen this play out on more than one occasion.

  3. The Good Samaritan Law protects those seeking to render aid.

     

    Declines to get involved? Had they simply =called 911= the lady may have survived. Not even calling for aid? Not trying to help her? That is not even showing an ounce of human decency. And to make pics & a video of her dying?

    I I did not say it was a good situation. But to criminalize this is way outta the park. The last thing this country needs is another law making criminals out of people for not getting involved in a situation that they choose not to. You have the right to get involved or not. It is your choice. Do you really want the government mandating what you must concern yourself with, I sure don't.

  4. Just my $0.02 but perhaps those bystanders should be charged with some sort of crime . . . then again, you can't convict someone for being heartless.

    YOU have got to be kidding.Granted it is bad when a fellow human declines to help another in need, but in this litigious society can you blame them? Just the mention of making a criminal out of someone who declines to get involved is just asinine.

  5. We are going this weekend - staying at the Hyatt Regency on River Street...Where would you all recommend for lunches and dinners - nothing too fancy with the kids, but something enjoyable and worth the money...

     

    Thanks!

    Pirate's House seafood

    Boar's Head Tavern & Grill, on river street. kinda pricey but good.

    Johnny Harris, barbq

    these all of my faves.

  6. Why is it that cops don't give other cops speeding tickets? Are you guys above the law?

    Cops don’t give other cops tickets because we have something in our bag of tricks called discretion. It is up to me if I write the ticket or not. I work traffic and on average I issue one citation for every 3 warnings, so cops are not the only ones who get breaks. I try not to write military, fire, ems, or other medical personnel either. Why? Because the LAW says that I have discretion in writing or not. If I stop you for a traffic infraction, explain why what you did was wrong and I think you get the message I will let you go with a warning. My job is not to generate revenue it is to educate the public in traffic safety, call them out when they violate a rule. If I can do that without writing a ticket I will. Give me attitude and you WILL get a ticket, why because I have discretion in the matter. I have been working in law enforcement for the better part of 20 years, many of these years in a traffic enforcement capacity, 4 years of that as second in command of a department. Never have I been told by the powers that be that I must increase my citation numbers to increase revenue. Maybe when you get to the commissioners or council they look at it that way but I bet you can not find one cop that does.

    Most cops have a couple of laws that are their “pet peeves” and will almost always write you on them if he pulls you for one of them. ME? Well let’s see. Change lanes without signaling? I see it you WILL get a ticket, do it with a cell phone stuck in your ear, I will see what else I can find to write while I have your attention. Child restraint violation? You WILL get a ticket. No headlamps in the rain? You at the least will get a talking to. Speed? I will not even look twice if you are not at least 15 over posted (but that is just me).

  7. Oh, believe me, we will put our hands on a child to protect self and others. We are all trained in CPI, which means, we initially try to defuse the situation, but if that doesn't work, we take them down until they are calm. If they are not calm, we then seek assistance.

     

    I work with kids who are too serious for a group home, but not serious enough for a hospital. I have not had to take down one yet. I have never had one swing at me, throw anything at me, break anything, etc. I've never even been cussed out. Cussed TO, yes, but not AT. They use foul language when angry, but not directed at me. They also know that I will do what I have to do to protect them, myself, or any other person.

     

    Very few calls are made here for assistance. And those only come when a child has to be hospitalized. Usually, at that point, they are having serious problems that make us worry about them. If you have a well managed program, the kids are well managed. It all depends on what type of program this is and who is running it. If it is ran poorly, ORS will shut them down before you can blink an eye. They have cracked down hard on these types of programs.

     

    Find out more details before you get too worried. I am curious myself. And we desperately need a placement for these kids. Some kids who are basically well behaved end up in RYDC because there is no where for them to go.

    I am not worried at all. I work in Florida and the youth home I have experience with is part of the Eckhart homes. The staff there is terrified of the residents and they will not engage them at all. It is not uncommon to get a call there and pull up and see a fight in progress in the yard and the staff locked behind their glass office wall. Technically this falls under the Florida department of juvenile justice but they always manage to pawn it off on us. An example of this is a staff member is assaulted by one of the residents, the staff calls DOJJ to report the incident. DOJJ sits on it until 4:30 or so and the staff calls back, at this time they are told that every one has gone home for the day and to call the sheriff’s dept.This will take about 2 ½ hrs out of a shift from the time the call is received, response time, interviewing witnesses, obtaining written statements from all involved, transporting the violator(s) to the jail, notifying DOJJ, reports and affidavits. I am sure that there are homes that do not have anywhere near the problems we have with ours. The residents in ours have a lot of gang affiliations and a lot of the trouble seems to be tied in with that. They have absolutely no respect for any type of authority and I have hade more than one swing on me. This is just my view on group homes from my experience with them, I am sure there are others with better opinions of them. Maybe we just got one of the bad ones.

  8. I work in an adolescent or teen crisis center. I am actually going to work in a few minutes. Right now, we have 5 boys and 3 girls. The kids are very well controlled and do not cause any problems. I have surprisingly very little trouble with any of them. Most have situations that need to be resolved. I can't change what happens at home, I simply try to give them the skills to deal with it.

     

    The neighborhood should have less trouble with those kids than they do with the kids whose parents are at work until late. Why? These kids will be supervised 24/7. Much more than the average teen. And much more difficult to get in trouble.

     

    I don't know what kind of center you are talking about though. I would love to know. After all, they may need a therapist that lives fairly close. I think I know one. ME! LOL!

    Here is the problem with group homes as I see it. The staff will not lay hands on the residents at all. These kids are there because they are “troubled” and troubled kids tend to cause trouble, among themselves or the staff. The staff not being able to do any more than observe these kids, call law enforcement any time one or more start trouble. This taxes law enforcement by taking an officer or officers out of service to deal with the problem. Any time law enforcement gets involved with a juvenile it is never a quick and easy deal. The home makes its money but uses taxpayer services to do its dirty work. I work in a county where we have a group home for females and it is a never ending thing with these folks. Several calls a week for assault on staff or other residents. It is a nightmare of paperwork and calling juvenile intake who, after all is said and done releases them back to the home

  9. HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     

    We need a driver for tomorrow morning 6:45 am - Noon!

     

    Anybody??? :o

    I am working on my pvt at KFTY and fly at 0900 in the am. dont know where you have ground school but if it as at fty i would be glad to help out. have class a cdl with psgr end.

  10. Often they *do* know it's there. The Been may look like it's piled with trash, but the volunteers there are allowed to go through on overstock days and pick out bags for themselves. They leave them outside the Been to pick up the next day (say with a couch they can't fit in their car or to be checked by the owner if there is an item they have a question about) And hoodlums go riffle through it and make a mess and take that which isn't theirs. The circumstances don't matter, the illegal part is the theft, period. I, personally, am just pointing out a fact-not trying to prosecute or show that a particular person has broken the law.

    I understand. I am just trying to point out to the 911 hounds how useless it would be to get law enforcement involved in something like this. I don’t know any prosecutor that would pursue a case like this, so why waste already strained law enforcement resources. A lot of folks do not understand that all law enforcement does in a case as this is the report. It is up to the state/local prosecutor to file the charges. When the prosecutor declines to pursue the case and it goes silent everyone wants to blame law enforcement for the lack of action.

  11. OK if nothing else come on over and check out the BEST LOOKIN Police Car anywhere around...We will have our new Dodge Charger (Hemi) Black and White Police Car on display...it will not be eligible for any awards but the Explorers want to show it off!

     

    Be Safe!

     

    Ken Ball

    WOW when I worked for ga0280000 "does the name "bo" ring a bell?" hspd had one man and one car... well 2 men if you count charlie w. and no one ever knew if anyone was 10-8 there. NOW THEY HAVE A HEMI? Where can i sign up? :D

  12. Sorry, I have to clear this up-it's bugging me-

    IT IS STEALING WHEN YOU TAKE THINGS FROM OUTSIDE THE BEEN!!!!!!!!! I had this discussion with the owner recently. Once something is dropped outside the Been, it becomes their property-no matter what it is! They've been trying to catch the crapwads that have been stealing from outside their store for quite some time. Just because it's a thrift store doesn't make it any different than if you took something from outside any other shop or store. It's still illegal! They re-sell what they are given, so in turn, you are stealing profit which is the same as stealing from any other type store!

    LL

    You must be able to prove ownership to be able to go after theft charges.

    How can you prove ownership of something you never knew you had in the first place?

    If it were me running the been and I had an issue with this I would go with the trespass statute O.C.G.A. § 16-7-21 B(1)b(2)

  13. OK, you know, youa re right, I just wanted it out of my house. BUT, the fact that someone took it and immediately turned around to sell it at a yard sale, where I ended up, was really weird. It made me feel very uncomfortable, because those items were intended for a different location.

    I do have my own yard sales, these were just a cpl of bags of stuff I needed out of my garage.

     

    You know, I have not lost any sleep on this whole thing....but I am wondering why you are taking this kind of stance on it. I am wondering if I went to the outside of Publix when it was closed and took some of their hanging plants, would you call this theft? I mean, they left them outside and closed their store...they obviously don't care about those plants...right?!?!

    Their plants left on their property “inside or outside” you take = theft. They take their plants to the been and leave them, you come by and take some = no theft.

  14. She can be arrested for theft.

     

    Georgia is one of the few states that has a law on "lost and found property"

     

    Basically, if you find something, a box full of stuff on the side of the road. It's considered lost and found. It has to, by state law be turned in. If it cannot be claimed, it is them destroyed or seized by the state and can be auctioned off for income for the state. Since you can identify the items, and she has them in her possession, she can be charged under this law.

    What state law are you referring to?? A person has no duty to turn anything they find over to the state, or any one else except the owner.

     

    § 16-8-6. Theft of lost or mislaid property

     

     

    A person commits the offense of theft of lost or mislaid property when he comes into control of property that he knows or learns to have been lost or mislaid and appropriates the property to his own use without first taking reasonable measures to restore the property to the owner.

     

     

     

     

    I find it hard to believe that anyone would even consider getting law enforcement involved in this to begin with. These items were unwanted by the lawful owner, given to another person for disposition and left outside unsecured at the been by that person. At this time these items have been abandoned as far as the law is concerned. To make a theft case you must prove the intention is to permanently deprive the lawful owner of said property, in this case who is the lawful owner? Yes, intentions are one thing but actions are another. I can tell you firsthand that all donations at a place like this are picked over and if someone on the intake end of the store likes something they see it will never make it to the floor "no I am not the proud owner of any donated treasures". Any location where items are left outside in the off hours will surely draw the folks, homeless, needy, or greedy.

    Don't get me wrong here, I think it is a shame that the good deeds done by some are exploited by others but unfortunately that is the society we live in.

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  16. I'm curious about something -----

     

    it has come to my attention that not only can Animal Control employees NOT post on p.com (or any other Paulding Co internet message board), but the Paulding Co Sherriff's Dept employees can not either -

     

    so...... my question is: how is it stated in the handbook?

    does anyone know why?

    is it only the dept of safety employees?

    aren't teachers county employees as well?

    how does this not include them?

    who else is a county employee that can post?

    what other county employees cannot post?

    does anyone know when this started?

     

    oops, that was more than one question wasn't it :blush:

     

    I'm just curious -

    I don’t know about the other county employees but from a deputy sheriff standpoint…..

    A deputy is appointed by the sheriff and works at the "pleasure of the sheriff".

    The office of sheriff is a constitutional office. The office of sheriff is a political one. It comes down to this……You do as you are told, if it is in the S.O.P. or not. One sure way in this line of work to find yourself in the unemployment line is to rock the boat or appear disloyal to the sheriff. Leave an agency on bad terms…….Good luck finding another law enforcement job. Right or wrong thats is the way it is. So if the sheriff says no p.com then no p.com. Will some go against the "rule"? possibly, will the sheriff find out? Who knows????

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