zoocrew Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 So now GA is trying to get around a federal requirement that phases out incandescent bulbs by 2014. My Link Link to post Share on other sites
mrshans79 Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 (edited) I, for one, am glad. I hate compact fluorescent bulbs. Edited March 5, 2011 by Tired of Bovine Excrement Link to post Share on other sites
Wineguy Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 This is ridiculous. There is a reason the country makes fun of us. Our government must like u's being reliant on so much electricity and constant replacing bulbs. I swear we don't have a single senator with common sense. Ifor one haven't replaced a bulb in two years since I replaced them all with fluorescent bulbs. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
MarkPalm Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 LED is the safest, most efficient choice. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mrshans79 Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 After replacing all of our incandescent bulbs in the basement with CFL's, we thought our electric bill would be less. Instead, it went up. Also, the light they produce is not pleasant to me. What is so wrong with giving people a choice about which product they would like to use? Link to post Share on other sites
markdavd Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 There have been recent studies showing LEDs contain toxic chemicals just like CFLs. Different chemicals, but still toxic. Link to post Share on other sites
raclay Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 After replacing all of our incandescent bulbs in the basement with CFL's, we thought our electric bill would be less. Instead, it went up. Also, the light they produce is not pleasant to me. What is so wrong with giving people a choice about which product they would like to use? Same here, which is why I am not willing to try the LED's and they are INSANELY expensive. Link to post Share on other sites
474218 Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 I have at least a five year supply of incandescent bulbs stored in my basement and plan to get more! Target has them on sale eight for $3.50. Link to post Share on other sites
dawneykids Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 After replacing all of our incandescent bulbs in the basement with CFL's, we thought our electric bill would be less. Instead, it went up. Also, the light they produce is not pleasant to me. What is so wrong with giving people a choice about which product they would like to use? I'm with you, I HATE CFL's. Link to post Share on other sites
AcworthDad Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 So now GA is trying to get around a federal requirement that phases out incandescent bulbs by 2014. My Link Good, override the damn bulb bill. It's ridiculous that the government should tell me what damned light bulbs I can and cannot use. I'm with you, I HATE CFL's. CFLs are CRAP!!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Skye Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 I'm glad, too. I use dimmer switches. Not only can they NOT be used with flourescents, but they DO save electricity and bulbs. I also have several beautiful lamps that look ridiculous with the spiral-shaped bulbs sticking out. Really dislike the blue hue that most of them give off. Link to post Share on other sites
Cathyhelms Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 I'm glad they are trying to get rid of this ridiculous requirement. Since when is it better to have mercury in your house and landfills than to be a watt watcher?? I don't like CFLs, they even make your skin look wierd. LOL I hope everyone realizes this "requirement" put another business out...............the last facility that made incandescent bulbs in the US closed last year, those jobs are now in China. Good move idiots!! My link Link to post Share on other sites
AcworthDad Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 I'm glad they are trying to get rid of this ridiculous requirement. Since when is it better to have mercury in your house and landfills than to be a watt watcher?? I don't like CFLs, they even make your skin look wierd. LOL I hope everyone realizes this "requirement" put another business out...............the last facility that made incandescent bulbs in the US closed last year, those jobs are now in China. Good move idiots!! My link Yeah, but doesn't it make you "feel good" to be "saving the planet"? Liberals!? Link to post Share on other sites
ivylove Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 (edited) I think that this should be a personal choice. I think that the government should encourage and promote economical choices, in matters such as this, but not mandate against all use of them altogether. There are some things that you can only use an incandescent bulb in, such as a light timer, or some of these nightlights with sensors, for example. Sometimes, it's not what you do, but how you do it. I think, the government should take a more carefully thought out , and subtle approach on things like this, using encouragement, facts, reasoning, ect., instead of making it seem like they are "forcing" people and taking away their "choices". This latter approach makes them seem overbearing and then I think people actually become more resistant. Edited March 5, 2011 by ivylove Link to post Share on other sites
AcworthDad Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 I think that this should be a personal choice. I think that the government should encourage and promote economical choices, in matters such as this, but not mandate against all use of them altogether. There are some things that you can only use an incandescent bulb in, such as a light timer, or some of these nightlights with sensors, for example. Sometimes, it's not what you do, but how you do it. I think, the government should take a more subtle approach on things like this, using encouragement, facts, reasoning, ect., instead of making it seem like they are "forcing" people and taking away their "choices". This latter approach makes them seem overbearing and then I think people actually become more resistant. I agree with what you're saying. The way they handled the Healthcare bill is very disturbing as well. Link to post Share on other sites
lotstodo Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 CFL's save money but they are not a good choice for all locations. Locations where use is intermittent and for a short duration such as hallways and stairwells, or some exterior uses are not recommended. The government just doesn't know when to butt out. Any technology that is superior to the old technology will dominate on it's own without government intervention. Did the government take away your Betamax or your tube type TV's? There is no need for the Government to take away your incandescent bulbs or to pay the CFL manufacturers a subsidy. It's pure statism and crony capitalism. Link to post Share on other sites
Gone Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 CFL's save money but they are not a good choice for all locations. Locations where use is intermittent and for a short duration such as hallways and stairwells, or some exterior uses are not recommended. The government just doesn't know when to butt out. Any technology that is superior to the old technology will dominate on it's own without government intervention. Did the government take away your Betamax or your tube type TV's? There is no need for the Government to take away your incandescent bulbs or to pay the CFL manufacturers a subsidy. It's pure statism and crony capitalism. When will people understand that! I bought them years ago and they would last such a short time it was truly not worth the money. I put them places that were a pain to put in a new bulb ....that is the reason I was so aware of it. In fact I thought I might have an electrical problem and started keeping a log of what date I replaced the bulbs in my house. I stopped buying the CFL's - they just were not what was promised on the label! I was lucky to get 4 months on ones that claimed three years! I had planned to start hoarding incandescent bulbs this year so I would not be forced to use them. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
AcworthDad Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 When will people understand that! I bought them years ago and they would last such a short time it was truly not worth the money. I put them places that were a pain to put in a new bulb ....that is the reason I was so aware of it. In fact I thought I might have an electrical problem and started keeping a log of what date I replaced the bulbs in my house. I stopped buying the CFL's - they just were not what was promised on the label! I was lucky to get 4 months on ones that claimed three years! I had planned to start hoarding incandescent bulbs this year so I would not be forced to use them. Good plan to overcome idiocy. Link to post Share on other sites
Gone Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 Good plan to overcome idiocy. It started first in other countries! Public oppositionBulk purchasing of incandescent bulbs was reported ahead of the EU lightbulb ban. Many retailers in Britain, Poland, Austria, Germany and Hungary have reported bulk purchasing,[41][42][43][44][45] and in Germany, sales rose by up to 150% in 2009 in comparison to 2008.[46] Two-thirds of Austrians surveyed stated they believe the phase-out to be "nonsensical", with 53.6% believing their health to be at risk of mercury poisoning.[47] 72% of Americans believe the government has no right to dictate which light bulb they may use.[48] The Czech Republic President, Vaclav Klaus, urged people to stockpile enough incandescent bulbs to last their lifetime.[49] The phase out has been referred to as "light bulb socialism".[46] The consumer preference for light bulbs in the EU is for incandescent bulbs, with many complaining about what was described as the ugliness[41][50] or the cold, flat, unnatural, dull light emanating from CFLs.[42][46][51][52][53][54] Objection has also been raised to being forced to adopt CFLs.[55] Museums and individuals have been stockpiling incandescent lightbulbs in Europe, owing to CFL's inferior colour representation.[52][56] The European Association for the Co-ordination of Consumer Representation in Standardisation has called for a speedy reduction of the mercury levels contained within CFLs from the current 5mg limit to 1 mg.[57] The European Consumers' Organization, BEUC, said that phasing out incandescent bulbs will be detrimental for people suffering light-related health issues,[58] and called for the continued availability of incandescent bulbs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase-out_of_incandescent_light_bulbs Link to post Share on other sites
Gone Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 Do you know if a CFL breaks ... you and your pets must leave your home for 15 minutes .... AND use no ventilation during that time?... AND clean up any breakage with thick protective gloves on? ...AND that you're not supposed to throw them away in the regular trash? Before I knew about the murcury in these (Yeaaaars ago,) we had several that broke, or exploded off the base of the bulb! ...I swept it up with a broom, vaccumed the area, and threw it in the trash! <snip> take a piece of cardboard and sweep the glass shards from the CFL bulb into a dustpan, getting as much of it up as possible. Don't use a whisk broom - you can't clean it well enough or safely enough. Empty the dustpan into the glass jar or Ziploc bag, but don't seal it up yet. Use wet wipes to clean the dustpan, then put them in with the fragments. Pick up tiny fragments of glass and residue with a piece of duct tape. Put the duct tape and the cardboard into the jar or bag. Using the wet wipes, carefully clean the whole area where any part of the broken CFL fell. Put the wet wipes and your latex gloves in the jar or bag. Because mercury is a highly toxic substance, you can't just throw it away. Dispose of it at your local toxic waste depot as you would do with dead batteries. If the CFL bulb breaks on carpeting, try the same steps. It is not recommended that you vacuum up fragments, since the residue will remain in the parts of the vacuum. If you do it anyway, you must seal up and throw out the vacuum bag. If you use a canister vacuum, clean the trap carefully with wet wipes, and seal them with the fragments. http://www.ehow.com/how_5323299_clean-up-broken-cfl-lightbulbs.html Link to post Share on other sites
ivylove Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 Maybe, if Georgia can get around this, that light bulb factory could move here? Link to post Share on other sites
lotstodo Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 Maybe, if Georgia can get around this, that light bulb factory could move here? Yup. The energy regulations that mandated the CFL were directly responsible for killing off the last bulb factory in the us last year. It put 200 employees out of work. It did create a lot of green jobs in China though. Link to post Share on other sites
Gone Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 Maybe, if Georgia can get around this, that light bulb factory could move here? South Carolina had the same idea! SC Bill Tries To Avoid Federal Incandescent Light Bulb Phase-Out A new bill at the SC Statehouse would try to get around a federal phase-out of incandescent light bulbs and attract a manufacturer to make them in the state. <snip> Representative Loftis said “it provides for the option of an entity manufacturing these bulbs in to be sold in South Carolina”. <snip> Wilson explained, “since the bulbs would be made entirely in South Carolina and sold in South Carolina, the federal government has no power to regulate it under the Interstate Commerce Clause.” Romano’s report went on saying there would be more hearings in the subcommittee before coming to a final vote in the full committee. Chairman Sandifer was hopeful for a full house approval of the bill.http://www2.wspa.com/news/2011/mar/01/2/sc-bill-tries-avoid-federal-incandescent-light-bul-ar-1523623/ Link to post Share on other sites
marteenj Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 When will people understand that! I bought them years ago and they would last such a short time it was truly not worth the money. I put them places that were a pain to put in a new bulb ....that is the reason I was so aware of it. In fact I thought I might have an electrical problem and started keeping a log of what date I replaced the bulbs in my house. I stopped buying the CFL's - they just were not what was promised on the label! I was lucky to get 4 months on ones that claimed three years! I had planned to start hoarding incandescent bulbs this year so I would not be forced to use them. Mechanics started doing the same thing during the phase out of R-12 freon for cars. --- now the stuff is almost $100 per pound, when you can find it. Link to post Share on other sites
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