Cathyhelms Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 heck I am more concerned with some of Paulette's supporters such as Ithey or GOP rules etc. Well, I know you aren't worried about Barack. Link to post Share on other sites
misterpolitics Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 I know a lot of folks in this thread don't believe this. I agree with you on this one Freebird. The biggest problem I have is the democratic philosophy of bigger government and more entitlements, spending if you will. I was told all democrats do not adhere to one agenda, there are things they agree with and things they don't. You want me to list off all of the Democrats in the State House that often vote with the GOP? Link to post Share on other sites
misterpolitics Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 Come on Animal, facts are facts...........Paulette screwed up. No need to make it seem like she's the debil. I'm just worried we're gonna get another campaigner like we have in the White House. I want Mr. Avery to prove me wrong, but I'm a little nervous about his friend's affiliation with Students for Barack Obama. ...why should it matter who Will's friends are associated? I have friends that are Tea Partiers, and friends who are legitimate Socialists, and Lord knows I don't agree with either of those groups. I think you're grasping for some serious straws here, and by bringing people's friends into this, you're dealing in dangerous (and irrelevant territory). Link to post Share on other sites
Cathyhelms Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 ...why should it matter who Will's friends are associated? I have friends that are Tea Partiers, and friends who are legitimate Socialists, and Lord knows I don't agree with either of those groups. I think you're grasping for some serious straws here, and by bringing people's friends into this, you're dealing in dangerous (and irrelevant territory). Why would asking a candidate who his friends are and who they are associated with be dangerous?? I happen to think it is very relevant. Is there something I should be afraid of if I ask those questions?? Link to post Share on other sites
gpatt0n Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 I know a lot of folks in this thread don't believe this. I agree with you on this one Freebird. The biggest problem I have is the democratic philosophy of bigger government and more entitlements, spending if you will. I was told all democrats do not adhere to one agenda, there are things they agree with and things they don't. Naturegirl: Unlike Republicans who are required to sign a party loyalty oath which is often used by the leadership to force them to vote the party line, Democrats have no such document or policy. As explained by Don Weigel, the guy who is heading up campaigns for the Georgia House Democratic Caucus; Democrats are instructed by the party to represent the interests and desires of their district, period. I'm pretty sure that Will Avery will have to do that or he will certainly face strong opposition and possible defeat in 2 years. The real point being that Democrats don't place party discipline above the people whom they represent 'back home' in the district. pubby Link to post Share on other sites
misterpolitics Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 Why would asking a candidate who his friends are and who they are associated with be dangerous?? I happen to think it is very relevant. Is there something I should be afraid of if I ask those questions?? It's not like Will's friend is an international terrorist. I think it's exactly how it sounds, Will has a friend that, as a student, supported Barack Obama. Seems pretty straightforward. Last time, in our democracy, it was legal for people to support other people. Just because Will has a friend who did, does not mean that Will did. Can I ask you if you know anyone that voted for Obama? If so, then can I question your political beliefs? That's my point, and I'm also bringing this up because many people on this very site (Madea & NewsJunky in particular) made it clear that they did not believe that supporters of a particular candidate (Shearin in particular) should be brought into this race, and I would tend to agree. After all, we wouldn't want to bring Paulette's supporters into the fray here, would we? There are two candidates on the ballot. One is named Will, the other Paulette. Until someone can show me that either of them are chummy with some internationally-known subversive, I just don't see how their friends voted or who they supported makes a difference. Link to post Share on other sites
NewsJunky Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 Why would asking a candidate who his friends are and who they are associated with be dangerous?? I happen to think it is very relevant. Is there something I should be afraid of if I ask those questions?? I think it is relevant too. I don't hang out with Socialists myself. Don't have much in common with them. Link to post Share on other sites
misterpolitics Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 I think it is relevant too. I don't hang out with Socialists myself. Don't have much in common with them. And what says that his friend is a socialist? I mean has anyone here met him/her? Have you talked to him/her? Do you know his/her political beliefs? Or just who they voted for? At this point, it just seems to me that you are reaching for some serious straws, and no matter what anyone says, you're on Team Paulette. That's okay, but I think we should all think a second. What do we actually know, and what is pure conjecture? Link to post Share on other sites
NewsJunky Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 It's not like Will's friend is an international terrorist. I think it's exactly how it sounds, Will has a friend that, as a student, supported Barack Obama. Seems pretty straightforward. Last time, in our democracy, it was legal for people to support other people. Just because Will has a friend who did, does not mean that Will did. Can I ask you if you know anyone that voted for Obama? If so, then can I question your political beliefs? That's my point, and I'm also bringing this up because many people on this very site (Madea & NewsJunky in particular) made it clear that they did not believe that supporters of a particular candidate (Shearin in particular) should be brought into this race, and I would tend to agree. After all, we wouldn't want to bring Paulette's supporters into the fray here, would we? There are two candidates on the ballot. One is named Will, the other Paulette. Until someone can show me that either of them are chummy with some internationally-known subversive, I just don't see how their friends voted or who they supported makes a difference. Sorry but I don't recall saying that Shearin supporters should not be brought into this race. I do recall saying that Shearin is not running in this race. Can't for the life of me understand what Shearin would have to do with this but I can understand what Obama would have to do with it. His policies are destructive to the economy and to the job market. We don't need those polices in Georgia. We don't need his supporters or the supporters of his policies in the government in Georgia either. JMO Link to post Share on other sites
NewsJunky Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 And what says that his friend is a socialist? I mean has anyone here met him/her? Have you talked to him/her? Do you know his/her political beliefs? Or just who they voted for? At this point, it just seems to me that you are reaching for some serious straws, and no matter what anyone says, you're on Team Paulette. That's okay, but I think we should all think a second. What do we actually know, and what is pure conjecture? You just said that you are friends with Socialists and I think you claim Will as a friend. Just assumed you might hang with the same crowd. Link to post Share on other sites
Cathyhelms Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 It's not like Will's friend is an international terrorist. I think it's exactly how it sounds, Will has a friend that, as a student, supported Barack Obama. Seems pretty straightforward. Last time, in our democracy, it was legal for people to support other people. Just because Will has a friend who did, does not mean that Will did. Can I ask you if you know anyone that voted for Obama? If so, then can I question your political beliefs? That's my point, and I'm also bringing this up because many people on this very site (Madea & NewsJunky in particular) made it clear that they did not believe that supporters of a particular candidate (Shearin in particular) should be brought into this race, and I would tend to agree. After all, we wouldn't want to bring Paulette's supporters into the fray here, would we? There are two candidates on the ballot. One is named Will, the other Paulette. Until someone can show me that either of them are chummy with some internationally-known subversive, I just don't see how their friends voted or who they supported makes a difference. You see no one questioned another well known candidate's associations, there are still many unanswered questions. Since Ithiel and GOP Rules have been mentioned (more than once in more than one thread) I think it's fair game to ask who Mr. Avery's friends are and what they stand for. You misjudge me completely if you think I am a Paulette supporter, I personally have only met her once, last weekend at the Public Appreciation Day. I'm only trying to understand where Will stands on certain things. I may not have a vote in the 19th but who ever wins that position will have an impact on Paulding County and my business happens to lie in that district. It really does matter who they are friends with, you know the birds of a feather thing. Link to post Share on other sites
misterpolitics Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 You just said that you are friends with Socialists and I think you claim Will as a friend. Just assumed you might hang with the same crowd. Nah, my friends that are Socialists (less friends and more people that I am friendly with) are from my college circles. My point is that one's associations (and friends) really should not play a role here. As I said, we all associate with many types of people. Unless I am missing something about this oft-mentioned friend, like he has plans to overthrow the government, and Will is somehow complicit in them, I just fail to see how this affects the race at all. It's a baseless attack on someone. Frankly, I like people with a diverse array of friends and aquaintances. Makes life more interesting, for me at least. Link to post Share on other sites
misterpolitics Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 You see no one questioned another well know candidate's associations, there are still many unanswered questions. Since Ithiel and GOP Rules have been mentioned (more than once in more than one thread) I think it's fair game to ask who Mr. Avery's friends are and what they stand for. Then perhaps you would not mind if Will starts investigating Paulette's friends and supporters? Maybe one of them has a criminal record. Is that relevant to you? It really does matter who they are friends with, you know the birds of a feather thing. If we are going to reduce this race to pure idioms, then I think I've made my point here. Birds of a feather may flock together, but I'm a Democrat, and my two best friends in the whole world are hardcore Republicans. We fight constantly about politics, and frankly, that's half the fun. Link to post Share on other sites
Cathyhelms Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 Then perhaps you would not mind if Will starts investigating Paulette's friends and supporters? Maybe one of them has a criminal record. Is that relevant to you? If we are going to reduce this race to pure idioms, then I think I've made my point here. Birds of a feather may flock together, but I'm a Democrat, and my two best friends in the whole world are hardcore Republicans. We fight constantly about politics, and frankly, that's half the fun. I also have friends and family that do not agree with me politically, however they aren't running for an office and I think everyone has a right to know the candidate, not just what he says while he/she is campaigning but how they think and to what degree they are willing to go against their own party for the good of the people. Link to post Share on other sites
NewsJunky Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 Nah, my friends that are Socialists (less friends and more people that I am friendly with) are from my college circles. My point is that one's associations (and friends) really should not play a role here. As I said, we all associate with many types of people. Unless I am missing something about this oft-mentioned friend, like he has plans to overthrow the government, and Will is somehow complicit in them, I just fail to see how this affects the race at all. It's a baseless attack on someone. Frankly, I like people with a diverse array of friends and aquaintances. Makes life more interesting, for me at least. You may associate with that type of person but I have nothing in common with them and would most likely end up in a disagreement with them in a matter of minutes. I tend to hang with folks I can get along with and have something in common with. I guess that is why some folks say not to discuss religion or politics in a social gathering. Link to post Share on other sites
misterpolitics Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 I also have friends and family that do not agree with me politically, however they aren't running for an office and I think everyone has a right to know the candidate, not just what he says while he/she is campaigning but how they think and to what degree they are willing to go against their own party for the good of the people. I would agree. People deserve to know the candidate. But I think that attacking someone based off of their friends' beliefs is insane. I would agree with your statement "not just what he says while he/she is campaigning but how they think and to what degree they are willing to go against their own party for the good of the people," but what does Will's friends have to do with that? Think about this yourself. Let's say you were running for an office (hypotheticals are fun, right?). Would you want people to judge you based on your friends, or yourself? What they do and believe, or what you do and believe? My point is simply that, as you insinuated, nobody should be looking at a candidate and worrying about their friends (unless their friend is some sort of terrorist). Link to post Share on other sites
misterpolitics Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 You may associate with that type of person but I have nothing in common with them and would most likely end up in a disagreement with them in a matter of minutes. I tend to hang with folks I can get along with and have something in common with. I guess that is why some folks say not to discuss religion or politics in a social gathering. And what's to say that Will and his friends don't talk much about politics? And saying you have nothing in common seems a bit harsh. Politically, sure, but are there not other levels on which you can relate? Religion? Pop culture? Sports? What do you know about how Will and his friends have met? What they talk about? Where they hang out? This is why I think it's dangerous to talk about friends, because unless you are the friend, you don't get the dynamic of the relationship. If and when Will gets elected, his job will be to vote on issues of the day, not hold high tea with his friends. Link to post Share on other sites
Cathyhelms Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 I would agree. People deserve to know the candidate. But I think that attacking someone based off of their friends' beliefs is insane. I would agree with your statement "not just what he says while he/she is campaigning but how they think and to what degree they are willing to go against their own party for the good of the people," but what does Will's friends have to do with that? Think about this yourself. Let's say you were running for an office (hypotheticals are fun, right?). Would you want people to judge you based on your friends, or yourself? What they do and believe, or what you do and believe? My point is simply that, as you insinuated, nobody should be looking at a candidate and worrying about their friends (unless their friend is some sort of terrorist). I think who I associate with says a lot about me. I know a lot of people, have many friends but I tend to hang out with the people that I share the most in common. No I don't always agree with them but the core values and basic beliefs generally tend to be similar. No man is an island, no one achieves much without support from like minded people. Link to post Share on other sites
Cathyhelms Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 Mr. Politics are you Will's campaign manager??? or just a friend??? Link to post Share on other sites
NewsJunky Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 And what's to say that Will and his friends don't talk much about politics? And saying you have nothing in common seems a bit harsh. Politically, sure, but are there not other levels on which you can relate? Religion? Pop culture? Sports? What do you know about how Will and his friends have met? What they talk about? Where they hang out? This is why I think it's dangerous to talk about friends, because unless you are the friend, you don't get the dynamic of the relationship. If and when Will gets elected, his job will be to vote on issues of the day, not hold high tea with his friends. He would certainly differ from the leader of his party then. Obama holds a lot of parties with his liberal friends. Don't think you would see Jim Demint or Michelle Bachmann there. Why? Because they do not agree on much. Link to post Share on other sites
Cathyhelms Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 One more question for Mr. Politics who I believe is Will's Campaign manager. Did you actively campaign for Barack Obama and are you part of a group (or the founder of a group) that helps students actively support Barack Obama?? Link to post Share on other sites
SoldbyShawna Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 I have a really swell husband. I think I'll vote for him! Link to post Share on other sites
Cathyhelms Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 I have a really swell husband. I think I'll vote for him! I agree your hubby is one of the best, can I vote for him too?? I really think he's the best choice. Link to post Share on other sites
Marical Posted October 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 LOL Rays. I think his mom! Such glowing accolades for Will....has to be his mom. (I am not saying the posts are true or not, good or bad, but just my first thought when I read them) I am so sorry for not responding to your post sooner. I've been baking cakes and cupcakes for friends' birthdays and have not been on paulding.com since you wrote this. Even though I am a mother, Will Avery is not one of children. If you think my remarks about him are glowing, then you do not want to get me started talking about my two sons and two daughters. By the way, will you please tell me how you made the word "glowing" turn that bright shade of yellow. That is just so cute. Link to post Share on other sites
xxrsellars Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 Naturegirl: Unlike Republicans who are required to sign a party loyalty oath which is often used by the leadership to force them to vote the party line, Democrats have no such document or policy. As explained by Don Weigel, the guy who is heading up campaigns for the Georgia House Democratic Caucus; Democrats are instructed by the party to represent the interests and desires of their district, period. I'm pretty sure that Will Avery will have to do that or he will certainly face strong opposition and possible defeat in 2 years. The real point being that Democrats don't place party discipline above the people whom they represent 'back home' in the district.pubby Really?? Then how did obamacare get through ? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Cathyhelms Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 Naturegirl: Unlike Republicans who are required to sign a party loyalty oath which is often used by the leadership to force them to vote the party line, Democrats have no such document or policy. As explained by Don Weigel, the guy who is heading up campaigns for the Georgia House Democratic Caucus; Democrats are instructed by the party to represent the interests and desires of their district, period. I'm pretty sure that Will Avery will have to do that or he will certainly face strong opposition and possible defeat in 2 years. The real point being that Democrats don't place party discipline above the people whom they represent 'back home' in the district. pubby Adding to Ray's response. Pubby, please don't tell me you are unaware that every single Democrat voted along party lines for much of 0bama's spending spree?? Well, they spent a little more and bought a couple of Republicans. Dems are just as guilty of Republicans of voting along party lines. They don't care about what their people "back home" want or they would not have passed the health scare debacle. Link to post Share on other sites
bellaprincess Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 I am so sorry for not responding to your post sooner. I've been baking cakes and cupcakes for friends' birthdays and have not been on paulding.com since you wrote this. Even though I am a mother, Will Avery is not one of children. If you think my remarks about him are glowing, then you do not want to get me started talking about my two sons and two daughters. By the way, will you please tell me how you made the word "glowing" turn that bright shade of yellow. That is just so cute. LOL!! (To change a word color highlight it with your mouse during your reply, and go up to the top where there is a paint brush and letter and click. Click on the color you want your word to turn) Link to post Share on other sites
Marical Posted October 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 And what's to say that Will and his friends don't talk much about politics? And saying you have nothing in common seems a bit harsh. Politically, sure, but are there not other levels on which you can relate? Religion? Pop culture? Sports? What do you know about how Will and his friends have met? What they talk about? Where they hang out? This is why I think it's dangerous to talk about friends, because unless you are the friend, you don't get the dynamic of the relationship. If and when Will gets elected, his job will be to vote on issues of the day, not hold high tea with his friends. I love a good tea party with my friends. We talk about lots of things (mostly gossip) and the little sandwiches are usually divine. Link to post Share on other sites
Marical Posted October 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 Adding to Ray's response. Pubby, please don't tell me you are unaware that every single Democrat voted along party lines for much of 0bama's spending spree?? Well, they spent a little more and bought a couple of Republicans. Dems are just as guilty of Republicans of voting along party lines. They don't care about what their people "back home" want or they would not have passed the health scare debacle. I will have to say that Barack Obama does scare me with his spending sprees and "shovel ready" projects. What scares me the most is Obamacare. I have been blessed with good health but some of my dear friends are already seeing a difference in their Medicare and their medical costs. Link to post Share on other sites
lotstodo Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 Naturegirl: Unlike Republicans who are required to sign a party loyalty oath which is often used by the leadership to force them to vote the party line, Democrats have no such document or policy. As explained by Don Weigel, the guy who is heading up campaigns for the Georgia House Democratic Caucus; Democrats are instructed by the party to represent the interests and desires of their district, period. I'm pretty sure that Will Avery will have to do that or he will certainly face strong opposition and possible defeat in 2 years. The real point being that Democrats don't place party discipline above the people whom they represent 'back home' in the district. pubby Waiting for lightning strike.......It's amazing that you are willing to paint the entire Republican Party and each individual member with the exact brush that Will must avoid to be elected. I suppose all Tea party advocates are racist homophobes and all fiscal conservatives are filthy rich country club members also. One has to look no further than the gerrymandering attempt of Roy Barnes and his merry band of panderers to disprove your theory that there isn't any misplaced partisanship within the Democratic party in Georgia. There are occasional partisan moves on both sides, but in general, ALL representatives vote the will of their constituents. It so happens that many rural and urban counties rely on substantial State and Federal subsidy to govern, and those counties tend to vote for the Democrats, while the suburban and exurban counties are more likely to vote for the Republican candidates to keep their funds in their own pockets. The truth of the matter is that as long as the representative has a track record of being on the perceived correct side of the cash flow, he will maintain his position regardless of party. The problem with all representative Government is to keep the Statehouse from trading favors with our money in an effort to do just that. Tit for Tat always brings about bigger government and more wealth transfer than is necessary to maintain a healthy statewide economy. It is the career politician in this state that is the problem, not necessarily the party. I'm voting for Will because I think he will represent the fiscal and Social values of Paulding County, not because he is the Anti-Republican on the white horse sent to save us all from evil. If he consistently votes with Able Mable in the next 2 years, he will be out on his butt so fast he won't have time to turn in his license plate. He probably understands that, but if not he will shortly. Link to post Share on other sites
vslade Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 Then perhaps you would not mind if Will starts investigating Paulette's friends and supporters? Maybe one of them has a criminal record. Is that relevant to you? If we are going to reduce this race to pure idioms, then I think I've made my point here. Birds of a feather may flock together, but I'm a Democrat, and my two best friends in the whole world are hardcore Republicans. We fight constantly about politics, and frankly, that's half the fun. When did you switch parties, I thought you ran as a republican? One more question for Mr. Politics who I believe is Will's Campaign manager. Did you actively campaign for Barack Obama and are you part of a group (or the founder of a group) that helps students actively support Barack Obama?? Yes he ran against Paulette as a Republican and lost, then I guess he decided to be a Democrat. I don't know about this.????????????????????? Link to post Share on other sites
zoocrew Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 When did you switch parties, I thought you ran as a republican? Yes he ran against Paulette as a Republican and lost, then I guess he decided to be a Democrat. I don't know about this.????????????????????? You are seriously confused. Wrong person. Same name (Golden) but different person. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hi~ho Silver Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 (edited) irrelevant territory nvm Edited October 17, 2010 by Hi~ho Silver Link to post Share on other sites
NewsJunky Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 When did you switch parties, I thought you ran as a republican? Yes he ran against Paulette as a Republican and lost, then I guess he decided to be a Democrat. I don't know about this.????????????????????? Two different Steve Goldens. Middle names are different. Link to post Share on other sites
Cathyhelms Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 I have to say I am extremely disappointed in Will. I know some of you will not believe this but I was really, really trying to trust him, but alas same ole, same ole. Link to post Share on other sites
zoocrew Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 I will have to say that Barack Obama does scare me with his spending sprees and "shovel ready" projects. What scares me the most is Obamacare. I have been blessed with good health but some of my dear friends are already seeing a difference in their Medicare and their medical costs. And it has NOTHING to do with national healthcare. Those changes were due to the costs going up that happens every year. Link to post Share on other sites
surepip Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 I have to say I am extremely disappointed in Will. I know some of you will not believe this but I was really, really trying to trust him, but alas same ole, same ole. Oh give me a break NG!! You are one of Paulette's few remaining posse members out there trying to find ANY little scrap of ANYTHING to throw at Will. So his campaign manager, who is a good personal buddy and has experience in the number crunching side of helping to run a campaign was an Obama supporter whilst a student at Emory. Which to you is a mortal sin and reason to throw out the baby with the bath water. While Paulette's entire campaign committee is the radical bunch of vapid neo-conservatives [RINOs] who have been the leaders of the local GOP group for the past 10+ years? I guess I am strange in that I like to have a group of friends who have varying and different political, sociological and religious beliefs. I like to hear from the opposing sides as often they have a viewpoint I find refreshing. I am Catholic, but have some very close friends who are atheists and others who are agnostic, and even some heavy duty Baptists. And the same with politics. If that is all you can find to sling at Will, then the opposition is indeed getting very, very desperate in trying to find a way to stop Will. Felony insurance fraud. Domestic violence. Massive bankruptcy with pending Federal Civil litigation. ANTI-Conservative voting record, when she bothered to show up at BOE meetings to vote. The backing of the Galloway-Shearin-Richardson Clique from the local GOP including financial donations. Paulette has yet to offer up a single paragraph of just what her platform is other than her BS Tea Party rhetoric claiming to be a conservative when her record shows the opposite, as does the Shearin- Richarson connections. If you feel you have to vote the "R", then by all means do so. But Will's closet has no skeletons he is responsible for. And if you are going after a "Guilt by association" angle, then that is all the more reason to vote for Will over Paulette. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Cathyhelms Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 What ever you say surepip. I will repeat again, I have never been or am a supporter of Paulette. When someone throws crap at the fan, it's always good to sort it out. Now you expect me to really believe Will didn't know who Mr.Politics was?? Give me a break!!!! You also can't expect me to believe he had no knowledge of his campaign manager's association with Students for Barack Obama. It's the mis-truths I'm having a problem with. Why didn't they just own up to it. This 19th District race is a fiasco!! Paulette is toast, you can continue to bash her all you want but it's only making you look bad. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
surepip Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 What ever you say surepip. I will repeat again, I have never been or am a supporter of Paulette. When someone throws crap at the fan, it's always good to sort it out. Now you expect me to really believe Will didn't know who Mr.Politics was?? Give me a break!!!! You also can't expect me to believe he had know knowledge of his campaign manager's association with Students for Barack Obama. It's the mis-truths I'm having a problem with. Why didn't they just own up to it. This 19th District race is a fiasco!! Paulette is toast, you can continue to bash her all you want but it's only making you look bad. Forgotten Insurance Fraud Indictment Forgotten Domestic Violence Arrest Forgotten Voting Record for 8 out of 8 Tax Increases Forgotten Civil Litigation by Xerox no less, for more than $800,000 In case you have forgotten, more than 50% of the voters in the last presidential election did indeed vote for Obama. I would take a wild-ass guess that in interviewing for a campaign mananger position for Will, the subject of Obama never came up, and if it did, it is irrelevant to Golden's experience with what is involved in running a campaign. As Golden himself stated, he has no part in formulating how Will stands on Paulding county issues. And again, it was not Will Avery who was a member of Students for Obama, it was one of his campaign workers. But I have to assume for Paulette's Posse, desperate times call for desperation wherever it may be found. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
gpatt0n Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 Waiting for lightning strike.......It's amazing that you are willing to paint the entire Republican Party and each individual member with the exact brush that Will must avoid to be elected. I suppose all Tea party advocates are racist homophobes and all fiscal conservatives are filthy rich country club members also. One has to look no further than the gerrymandering attempt of Roy Barnes and his merry band of panderers to disprove your theory that there isn't any misplaced partisanship within the Democratic party in Georgia. There are occasional partisan moves on both sides, but in general, ALL representatives vote the will of their constituents. It so happens that many rural and urban counties rely on substantial State and Federal subsidy to govern, and those counties tend to vote for the Democrats, while the suburban and exurban counties are more likely to vote for the Republican candidates to keep their funds in their own pockets. The truth of the matter is that as long as the representative has a track record of being on the perceived correct side of the cash flow, he will maintain his position regardless of party. The problem with all representative Government is to keep the Statehouse from trading favors with our money in an effort to do just that. Tit for Tat always brings about bigger government and more wealth transfer than is necessary to maintain a healthy statewide economy. It is the career politician in this state that is the problem, not necessarily the party. I'm voting for Will because I think he will represent the fiscal and Social values of Paulding County, not because he is the Anti-Republican on the white horse sent to save us all from evil. If he consistently votes with Able Mable in the next 2 years, he will be out on his butt so fast he won't have time to turn in his license plate. He probably understands that, but if not he will shortly. LTD: This from the article behind the Glenn Beck article going on elsewhere. Posted to illustrate how in the GOP, if step out of line, the man comes and takes you away "The only [dissenting] gesture coming out of the Republican Party that I've seen is coming from Karl Rove, of all people — an unlikely dissident, but there he is, who on primary night pointed to one of the Tea Party candidates in Delaware and said some of her statements were nutty and she might not prevail in November ... after which he was set upon by Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh and the whole blogosphere and told to get back in line — which he did a couple of days later, coming back on Fox News a couple of days later and saying that he thinks 'Christine O'Donnell is a great candidate and should be supported.' So he was whipped back into line." Source: NPR From top to bottom there is simply a level of party discipline being exerted, typically by the extremes of the GOP, that make it difficult for any Republican office holder to be out there publicly saying anything different. We see this on the local level as well and I'm quite aware that not all Republicans are a part of or supportive of this regimentation. Still, those who reject this trend for their party are in a fight for leadership. pubby pubby Link to post Share on other sites
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