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Thats good, because i was beginning to question whether there was such a thing as objective truth. Thank you for the reassurance that there is.

Are you certain about that?

Standing by ones moral religious convictions is not the equivalent of hatred. You are standing by your moral convictions in speaking out against this person for refusing to bake a cake. Does this make you a hater of christians? Would you have our government repeal the parts of the constitution protecting freedom of religion? One can disagree and respect another at the same time.

This sounds like a perfect description of liberalism.

Ill narrow it down even more: Should people discriminate between objective moral (right, good, righteous) choices and objective immoral (wrong, bad, sinful) choices? Yes or No?

Okay, lets change the question to: Generally speaking, should people discriminate between moral choices?

It does not answer the question. I am not going to buy into your rabbit trail. It is a simple question that asks for a simple yes or no answer.

I would say lying would be the moral thing to do here. Your question though is that is it morally wrong to lie. One example does not make all lies moral. Generally speaking, lying is immoral (reference the 9th commanment). Like Pubby, you have not answered the question and put out a rabbit trail to distract from the real question which is: Should people discriminate between moral choices?

Deconstructing morality Pubby? Is it moral to lie, steal, murder, rape, etc By the way, you did not answer the question, but just put out a rabbit trail to distract from the question. Please answer the question.

Should people discriminate between moral choices?

A business owner should be able withhold service to anyone for any reason, right or wrong. It is their business and the government should not be able to force them to provide services. Are you suggesting a person should not discriminate between moral and immoral choices and that the government should be able to dictate to that person what moral choices he can or cannot make? Isn't it liberals who are always saying you cannot legislate morality? How is that working out?

If that is your idea of backward I would hate to see what you consider forward.

It certainly won't be over as long as liberals keep stirring things up. Think Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. Do you ever wonder why the media goes straight to them to speak on all things having to do with racial relations? The controversey over the zimmerman case is a perfect example. The media did ever thing they could to make this a racial thing, even hiding the fact that zimmerman was an hispanic and taking his identification of Trayvon's race out of context.

Exactly, it was self defense and had nothing to do with racism. Not justifying his actions since then, but it seems a lot of people have bought into the politically correct bias of the race baiters. Are those same people just as vocal now over the "Knockout game". Certainly the media isn't as they have done everything they can to not report it or to leave out certain details when they do report it.

There is a higher authority that would disagree.

What would you do that president Obama has not been able to do to create jobs?

So do you think your man Obama has these qualities?

So what are you calling "truth"?

You still wouldn't have the whole truth if you lumped in Politifact. That is why it pays to be informed so you can discern between the truth and the lies. The mainstream media, for the most part, is a mouthpiece for the current administration and cannot be trusted.

Better to shut her down in an effort to bring some sanity to out of control government spending than to let that spending bankrupt the country.

Thanks

What specific lies and half truths are you referring to?

Sure it's biased. I am biased. You are biased. It's called a worldview. The question is, which worldview best represents reality?

That website makes no claims of being without bias. Politifact does.

Popular "Fact-Checker" Misleads Public on Obamacare "Politifact" is not the final arbiter of truth. Don't assume they don't have a bias.