2010 County Tax Bill

[WHITEY]

Yep, it's less because your house is worth less. Again, I ask you as I asked Feelip and he didn't answer. How would you feel about this tax INCREASE if your property value didn't drop??? They are collecting less because the houses are worth a LOT less!!! That is not a tax decrease from the BOC, you can thank Freddie and Fannie for the property value decreases. Do I need to type a little slower for you to understand??

Naturegirl You have always typed to fast for me to keep up with you,And you are always all over the ball park,With your responses, I am really suprised that you did not blame this whole thing on Obama

 

Yes I agree the reason that the taxes are now lower is because of the lower property values, Coupled with the fact that The Commissioners reduced the BUDGET That was my point in the post that you responded to, Look at the facts that I posted the budget is less two years straight than they were at the peak in 2007 which was the highest taxes ever for all Paulding County Residents. What we have bought we have to pay for.

 

What really amazes me in this entire discussion,is I personally know that some of the posters that are raising the most hell about this millage rate increase, Are some of the same folks that supported the Fire tax Levy(up to 5 mils), Greenspace bond (.05Mil) School Bond (2.5 mils) And actually campaigned for and, Donated money for the campaign to raise those taxes.

These increases alone is equal to five times the mill rate increase that was imposed by the commissioners this year, And believe this or not when those tax bills came you knew it, The amount of taxes that you owed did go up above the previous year, And Fannie Mae And Freddie Mac was involved in that I guess?????

[Cathyhelms]

Naturegirl You have always typed to fast for me to keep up with you,And you are always all over the ball park,With your responses, I am really suprised that you did not blame this whole thing on Obama

 

Yes I agree the reason that the taxes are now lower is because of the lower property values, Coupled with the fact that The Commissioners reduced the BUDGET That was my point in the post that you responded to, Look at the facts that I posted the budget is less two years straight than they were at the peak in 2007 which was the highest taxes ever for all Paulding County Residents. What we have bought we have to pay for.

 

What really amazes me in this entire discussion,is I personally know that some of the posters that are raising the most hell about this millage rate increase, Are some of the same folks that supported the Fire tax Levy(up to 5 mils), Greenspace bond (.05Mil) School Bond (2.5 mils) And actually campaigned for and, Donated money for the campaign to raise those taxes.

These increases alone is equal to five times the mill rate increase that was imposed by the commissioners this year, And believe this or not when those tax bills came you knew it, The amount of taxes that you owed did go up above the previous year, And Fannie Mae And Freddie Mac was involved in that I guess?????

 

Well, I used to work at IBM in the word processing center so I type pretty fast.

[rockster]

Well, I used to work at IBM in the word processing center so I type pretty fast.

 

[WHITEY]

Well, I used to work at IBM in the word processing center so I type pretty fast.

But you get overwhelmed when presented with facts

[Cathyhelms]

But you get overwhelmed when presented with facts

 

Ah, are you talking about yourself again?? After all I spent many, many years typing facts, very quickly. Sorry you're having a hard time keeping up

[peachesga]

mine went up $100

[Cathyhelms]

mine went up $100

 

You're not alone.

[rebelmom]

Mine went down alot.... says I owe 0

Guess mine hasn't been figured yet...

[mei lan]

sigh Assessment went down 1%; taxes went up 3%. Could be worse, I suppose, but it still irks me.

[mei lan]

If this is suppose to be great thing can someone tell me why mine went up?>

 

nothing added... same as last year... but it did go up..

 

so someone explain this to me please.... I am not arguing the politics on this I truly would like to understand why mine went up....

 

You know what? I don't even care about the why anymore. I am so sick and damn tired of taxes going up and up and up. Agree with you and naturegirl and Madea. sigh

[scjr]

In order to find your property tax amount – you take your assesed current market value of your house multiply that by 40 percent, take that number and multiply that by the millage rate.

 

Example – 80,000.00 X 40% = 32,000.00

32,000.00 x .033592 = $1,074.94

 

The milliage rate for 2009 was .032372

The millage rate for 2010 was .033592

 

As you can see there is a huge millage rate increase but thanks to our declining property values you might have seen a drop. Just imagine what our taxes would have looked like if we used the 2009 millage rate!

Thanks for the information.

 

 

This year my taxes are down almost 52%. Property values have plummeted, but right now that's the nature of the beast. Using the millage rate from last year, I would have been down another $33 this year.

 

Just for comparison, using the millage rate this year and applying it to last year's value my increase would have been $69. If nothing had changed, this would have been far lower than any increase we've experienced in the 3+ years we've lived in Dallas. Of course, in the real estate market we're in now that's not realistic.

 

 

scjr

Edited September 1, 2010 by scjr

[amboydukes]

tax bills are posted on tax office web site

[Lady Raider]

I found mine yesterday on there ours went up...

[feelip]

Alrighty then, that would make for a nice dinner and theatre evening with the wife, you know to stimulate the economy. The Fox Theatre is a very, very nice venue.

 

 

I can afford that AND 78 cents a day. I am a high roller.

[Tahoe]

Best tax increase I ever had. Saved me $2,500.00.

 

The only way you lose money on the value of your house is if you sell it for what it is said to be worth. The value of my house had almost tripled from when it was built but that was all on paper too.

 

The Austin BOC has no choice but to pay the bills for the debt that Shearin and company ran up.

 

Let me ask you this, did you really expect those over-inflated home values to continue to climb forever. How many times have you walked through new homes and thought "there is no way in heck this house is worth this much money?"

 

 

 

BRAVO....WELL SAID!!!!!

[The Sound Guy]

All I'm asking is that we call a spade a spade. Yes overall, for the majority, taxes went down. But there's no need for "atta boys" to the BOC because they had nothing to do with the decrease. It decreased because the economy over the country went bust. It had the potential to decrease even more, but the BOC choose to vote in a small millage rate increase. Were they securing our future and looking out for our best interests in doing so? Let's just take the high road for now and assume they were. So far, I don't have a history that would tell me otherwise.

 

Well, if we want to call a spade a spade, then we'd all have to agree that the *BOE* needs the big bow, they are close to 2/3s of our tax bill and they kept the rate the same (pretty much had to, they could not raise it past 21 mils anyway) and that produces most of the savings.

 

But I have to say that the argument that a decrease in value means that net taxes should go down is just not correct. The very people complaining about the rate change being approved before the budget prove it. The budget comes first because it controls the amount of taxes that the people of this county will pay. Pure and simple/chicken and egg.

 

The choice was made many years ago that people should pay a percentage of the county budgets based on the value of property that they own. You own more, you pay more. The "tax rates" are just ratios of property value to budget to ensure that the taxes collected are enough to pay for the budget proposed. If the budget remains the same, then the county as a whole must pay the same taxes no matter what happens to the values, just the tax ratio changes to make up for the changes in value.

 

If someone pays more in taxes this year than last, then one of two things happened: 1) The budget is larger than last year, therefore your part is higher or 2) You are paying a larger percentage of the budget than last year.

 

So, in this case, I'm paying approx $500 less this year than last year. I've had a tax cut because the budgets were reduced so that the rates did not have to be raised enough to make up for the property value loss I had.

 

Just for fun, (well, not really), I looked up my old tax bills and on the Ga tax site where I couldn't find the bill to see the rates since I bought here in 1997:

 

Tax Year------------ 1997- 1998- 1999- 2000- 2001- 2002- 2003- 2004- 2005- 2006- 2007- 2008- 2009- 2010

State--------------- 00.25 00.25 00.25 00.25 00.25 00.25 00.25 00.25 00.25 00.25 00.25 00.25 00.25 00.25

County(Budget)------ 13.23 13.23 --.-- --.-- 10.83 --.-- --.-- 09.89 09.78 09.90 09.77 09.59 09.73 --.--

County(net)--------- 08.35 08.35 06.99 06.75 06.70 06.50 06.50 06.50 06.50 06.80 06.50 06.50 06.65 07.60

School M&O --------- 17.70 17.70 16.10 16.40 18.90 17.29 16.41 16.41 16.41 16.41 18.91 18.91 18.91 18.91

School Bond -------- 04.20 04.20 02.70 02.40 01.40 01.18 01.12 01.12 01.12 00.56 02.08 02.96 02.96 03.06*

County Bond -------- 00.45 00.45 00.65 00.65 00.65 00.60 00.60 00.60 00.50 00.20 00.50 00.50 01.60 01.87

Fire Tax ----------- -N/A- -N/A- -N/A- -N/A- -N/A- -N/A- -N/A- 02.00 02.00 02.00 02.00 02.00 02.00 02.00

 

LOST Credit (Mils)-- 04.88 04.88 --.-- --.-- 04.13 --.-- --.-- 03.39 03.28 03.10 03.27 03.09 03.08 --.--

 

* - School bond rate calculated from current year bill and is not official.

 

The --.-- are years I couldn't find my tax bill for and had to get the info from the Ga site and it was incomplete.

 

Interesting, the County budget rate is still .75 mils less than it was in 1997/1998. Anybody want to claim their property is worth less now than 1997? What really gets me is that my house went up in value around 35% between 2001 and 2008 (the year it peaked). The tax rate however only went down approx 3 percent. Sounds like one heck of a tax increase to me, my county tax payment $$$ went up %30 in that time period. THAT is the tax increase we are complaining about in the Jerry years. (plus the 2 mils of the fire budget he kept).

 

Also notice that the State of Georgia quietly left their rate at 0.25 mils the entire time values were going up, reaping a windfall across the state as those values doubled and tripled over the 10 year period. But those Democrats and Republicans in the State Government managed to spend it somehow... it was hard work, but they pulled it off.

 

No, Austin has been given a bad hand, much like Obama was, but Austin seems to be making the hard choices to keep us in good shape fiscally while looking to cut where they can unlike the other.

 

I like that.

 

[WHITEY]

 

Well, if we want to call a spade a spade, then we'd all have to agree that the *BOE* needs the big bow, they are close to 2/3s of our tax bill and they kept the rate the same (pretty much had to, they could not raise it past 21 mils anyway) and that produces most of the savings.

 

But I have to say that the argument that a decrease in value means that net taxes should go down is just not correct. The very people complaining about the rate change being approved before the budget prove it. The budget comes first because it controls the amount of taxes that the people of this county will pay. Pure and simple/chicken and egg.

 

The choice was made many years ago that people should pay a percentage of the county budgets based on the value of property that they own. You own more, you pay more. The "tax rates" are just ratios of property value to budget to ensure that the taxes collected are enough to pay for the budget proposed. If the budget remains the same, then the county as a whole must pay the same taxes no matter what happens to the values, just the tax ratio changes to make up for the changes in value.

 

If someone pays more in taxes this year than last, then one of two things happened: 1) The budget is larger than last year, therefore your part is higher or 2) You are paying a larger percentage of the budget than last year.

 

So, in this case, I'm paying approx $500 less this year than last year. I've had a tax cut because the budgets were reduced so that the rates did not have to be raised enough to make up for the property value loss I had.

 

Just for fun, (well, not really), I looked up my old tax bills and on the Ga tax site where I couldn't find the bill to see the rates since I bought here in 1997:

 

Tax Year------------ 1997- 1998- 1999- 2000- 2001- 2002- 2003- 2004- 2005- 2006- 2007- 2008- 2009- 2010

State--------------- 00.25 00.25 00.25 00.25 00.25 00.25 00.25 00.25 00.25 00.25 00.25 00.25 00.25 00.25

County(Budget)------ 13.23 13.23 --.-- --.-- 10.83 --.-- --.-- 09.89 09.78 09.90 09.77 09.59 09.73 --.--

County(net)--------- 08.35 08.35 06.99 06.75 06.70 06.50 06.50 06.50 06.50 06.80 06.50 06.50 06.65 07.60

School M&O --------- 17.70 17.70 16.10 16.40 18.90 17.29 16.41 16.41 16.41 16.41 18.91 18.91 18.91 18.91

School Bond -------- 04.20 04.20 02.70 02.40 01.40 01.18 01.12 01.12 01.12 00.56 02.08 02.96 02.96 03.06*

County Bond -------- 00.45 00.45 00.65 00.65 00.65 00.60 00.60 00.60 00.50 00.20 00.50 00.50 01.60 01.87

Fire Tax ----------- -N/A- -N/A- -N/A- -N/A- -N/A- -N/A- -N/A- 02.00 02.00 02.00 02.00 02.00 02.00 02.00

 

LOST Credit (Mils)-- 04.88 04.88 --.-- --.-- 04.13 --.-- --.-- 03.39 03.28 03.10 03.27 03.09 03.08 --.--

 

* - School bond rate calculated from current year bill and is not official.

 

The --.-- are years I couldn't find my tax bill for and had to get the info from the Ga site and it was incomplete.

 

Interesting, the County budget rate is still .75 mils less than it was in 1997/1998. Anybody want to claim their property is worth less now than 1997? What really gets me is that my house went up in value around 35% between 2001 and 2008 (the year it peaked). The tax rate however only went down approx 3 percent. Sounds like one heck of a tax increase to me, my county tax payment $$$ went up %30 in that time period. THAT is the tax increase we are complaining about in the Jerry years. (plus the 2 mils of the fire budget he kept).

 

Also notice that the State of Georgia quietly left their rate at 0.25 mils the entire time values were going up, reaping a windfall across the state as those values doubled and tripled over the 10 year period. But those Democrats and Republicans in the State Government managed to spend it somehow... it was hard work, but they pulled it off.

 

No, Austin has been given a bad hand, much like Obama was, but Austin seems to be making the hard choices to keep us in good shape fiscally while looking to cut where they can unlike the other.

 

I like that.

 

SoundGuy You killed this thread by posting the FACTS, Good post

[Shagnastey]

Back in 2007 alot of assessments were reduced. That was the time for the county to jump in and raise your Land Value and decrease your Building Value. Not many folks noticed because the state was still funding your total tax liability. I believe it was back in 2008 the county broke out Outdoor Items (concrete, fences, sheds etc.) and gave them a value. They didn't raise assessments they just deducted this amount from your Building Value and left the Land Values the same. Now this year although many have seen drastic reductions in their overall assessment some have seen a reduction in Land, Building and Outdoor Items some just in Building with an increase in Outdoor Items and no reduction in the Land.

 

Example 1:http://qpublic5.qpublic.net/sc_display.php?county=ga_paulding&KEY=227.2.3.046.0000

Example 2:http://qpublic5.qpublic.net/sc_display.php?county=ga_paulding&KEY=223.2.1.030.0000

 

Grant it these increase are not thousands but, why do it anyway. My increase was only $100.00, with the Land Value staying the same and the total reduction plus the $100.00 out of my Building Value.

Edited November 30, 2010 by Shagnastey