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[lotstodo]

Your point is still MUTE. Are you saying that people who live in less than 200K homes are not contributing? We can't all afford houses like that but we are at least providing for our families with what we have. Obviously you have more and think you are picking up the tab for the rest of us. Sorry we don't pick up enough for you.

 

Is English your native language? I am not saying that persons who live in sub $200k houses are not contributing to the property tax digest. I am saying that they are contributing half as much to the property tax digest as someone in a $400k house. They still require as much fire protection, police protection, public utilities, and public schooling. I also never said that there was anything wrong with that. We are all paying a larger percentage of our home value (millage rate) in taxes because the previous BOC permitted a disproportionate amount of lower cost homes,and fewer quality commercial sites when compared to surrounding suburban counties. If you don't understand this, then maybe someone can explain it better than I can.

 

[surepip]

Our tax digest is at, or above, 80%+ residential. A reasonable diversified tax bases is 50%, or less, residential.

 

Industrial pays the most tax versus services rendered by the local government. Schools, Water, Sewer, Police, Parks, etc. are paid for by industrial taxes, but they really don't use them at all, or at leat they do not put a strain on them. And they pay advalorum taxes on their machinery, equipment, and inventory in addition to the property tax they pay to the landlord. So if you have 50% or more industrial and business, with some commercial mixed in, and 40% or so residential, they the industrial tax base will for the most part cart the tax burden.

 

Add to that where it costs the taxes from a $350,000 house to provide for 1 student. So every house less than $350,000 with 1 or more students are paying far less into the system then they are getting back. If there is a diversified tax base, then the rest will provide. When there is not, you come up short and have to raise the taxes and have SPLOSTS and Bonds.

 

Welcome to Paulding.

 

Not only did our BOC blindly approve any residential, they have done little to nothing to encourage the industrial growth we so desperately need.

[seabolt]

D-Dawg, BeachBum, Madea, NewsJunky, QuickQuisine, and anyone else with questions.

 

I must say that I have been learning a lot just from reading the posts on this website and I have to admit that I might not have all the answers, but I am trying to get them, I appreciate your concerns and I thank you for giving me this opportunity.

 

I am undecided on many races, just like some of you probably are, but I have been trying to read as much as I can about the candidates and attend functions to learn about each of them, Republican and Democrat. I have never voted a straight ballot for one party or another, instead I vote for each candidate that I feel will represent me the best. We are lucky to have this many choices this year, and I know that whoever is elected will have my support as they try to do a good job. I can say that I do not support Socialism, as some have put it.

 

What I plan to do if elected is have an open forum with the citizens and be available to them. If I am asked questions, I might not know the answer, but I will work to find it and answer the concerns. I would like to do the same with the questions that have been asked of me on here. I invited each of you to the different Meet and Greets that I attended last weekend, but I know you might have been busy or unable to attend. I would offer to meet with each of you either on one occasion or different occasions and answer your concerns. These are complex questions, and I feel that if we sit down and discuss them, not only could you get to know me, but I could learn much from each of you. Please PM me about this if you would be interested.

 

I have said previously that I will be available to the citizens and what better way to start than meeting with you now. I am available at your request, and again I want to say thank you for the questions.

[Beach Bum]

D-Dawg, BeachBum, Madea, NewsJunky, QuickQuisine, and anyone else with questions.

 

I must say that I have been learning a lot just from reading the posts on this website and I have to admit that I might not have all the answers, but I am trying to get them, I appreciate your concerns and I thank you for giving me this opportunity.

 

I am undecided on many races, just like some of you probably are, but I have been trying to read as much as I can about the candidates and attend functions to learn about each of them, Republican and Democrat. I have never voted a straight ballot for one party or another, instead I vote for each candidate that I feel will represent me the best. We are lucky to have this many choices this year, and I know that whoever is elected will have my support as they try to do a good job. I can say that I do not support Socialism, as some have put it.

 

What I plan to do if elected is have an open forum with the citizens and be available to them. If I am asked questions, I might not know the answer, but I will work to find it and answer the concerns. I would like to do the same with the questions that have been asked of me on here. I invited each of you to the different Meet and Greets that I attended last weekend, but I know you might have been busy or unable to attend. I would offer to meet with each of you either on one occasion or different occasions and answer your concerns. These are complex questions, and I feel that if we sit down and discuss them, not only could you get to know me, but I could learn much from each of you. Please PM me about this if you would be interested.

 

I have said previously that I will be available to the citizens and what better way to start than meeting with you now. I am available at your request, and again I want to say thank you for the questions.

 

Thanks Joey. I do apppreciate your taking the time to address this but I am still curious to hear your answers to the remainder of D-Dawg's questions (see thread on Paulding County Tax Increases). These questions included the tax increase issue, board meetings attended and the airport issue.

 

I do appreciate your putting forth the time and effort to run for public office. We need more people that are willing to sacrifice the time and energy it takes to run for and serve in public office.

 

P. S. I was out of town last weekend during your meet and greets but I am pretty sure that surepip wouldn't want me at his house anyway.

 

 

[feelip]

Thanks Joey. I do apppreciate your taking the time to address this but I am still curious to hear your answers to the remainder of D-Dawg's questions (see thread on Paulding County Tax Increases). These questions included the tax increase issue, board meetings attended and the airport issue.

 

I do appreciate your putting forth the time and effort to run for public office. We need more people that are willing to sacrifice the time and energy it takes to run for and serve in public office.

 

P. S. I was out of town last weekend during your meet and greets but I am pretty sure that surepip wouldn't want me at his house anyway.

 

Nonsense. I think Surepip and Ms Surepip would have welcomed you. They are super nice folks. You would have fit right in.

 

 

[WHITEY]

Thanks Joey. I do apppreciate your taking the time to address this but I am still curious to hear your answers to the remainder of D-Dawg's questions (see thread on Paulding County Tax Increases). These questions included the tax increase issue, board meetings attended and the airport issue.

 

I do appreciate your putting forth the time and effort to run for public office. We need more people that are willing to sacrifice the time and energy it takes to run for and serve in public office.

 

P. S. I was out of town last weekend during your meet and greets but I am pretty sure that surepip wouldn't want me at his house anyway.

 

 

He has offered to meet with all of ya'll What more do you want?

[surepip]

Nonsense. I think Surepip and Ms Surepip would have welcomed you. They are super nice folks. You would have fit right in.

 

Thanks Feelip.

 

We volunteered the use of our house for a Meet & Greet to Joey Seabolt so anyone who wished to speak with him in a casual and informal setting could do so. And we did this with no strings attached as to who could or could not attend. All were welcome. We have held many fund raising events for HeartWalk, Relay for Life, and other such events for many years and there has never been anyone prohibitied. In the past King Jerry even attended and assisted. Glenn Richardson has been at our place before for some of these events as well. Of course those events took place before we entered into litigation against the BOC, but none the less, all were welcome.

[vinylmom]

Can anyone help me find sample ballots so I know exactly what to expect to vote for?

 

[WHITEY]

Can anyone help me find sample ballots so I know exactly what to expect to vote for?

 

 

Try this link

 

http://www.paulding.gov/files/pdf/November...e%20Ballots.pdf

[paragod30]

Is English your native language? I am not saying that persons who live in sub $200k houses are not contributing to the property tax digest. I am saying that they are contributing half as much to the property tax digest as someone in a $400k house. They still require as much fire protection, police protection, public utilities, and public schooling. I also never said that there was anything wrong with that. We are all paying a larger percentage of our home value (millage rate) in taxes because the previous BOC permitted a disproportionate amount of lower cost homes,and fewer quality commercial sites when compared to surrounding suburban counties. If you don't understand this, then maybe someone can explain it better than I can.

 

 

When NJTS asked you a question you get defensive and start calling names. Why not just answer the question? You do sound like you feel you give more since your house is more. You sound like a hypocrite.

[lotstodo]

When NJTS asked you a question you get defensive and start calling names. Why not just answer the question? You do sound like you feel you give more since your house is more. You sound like a hypocrite.

If you will read further back than the current page, you will find my original post # 66 HERE stating facts that I don't believe have been disputed. NJTS seamed to take it as some kind of political statement, which it wasn't, and put words in my mouth that were not written or in my belief implied. I explained that in post #78 HERE and forgot to ad a smiley after the last sentence, which in retrospect was unfortunate, given that he was somehow personally involved in the conversation. I can not tell what is in another person's mind, but it would appear that NJTS was not reading the post properly and again, ignoring the facts of the two previous posts, stated that I was insulting all persons with lower cost homes. I am sorry that he feels that way. THIS IS NOT THE CASE. The post which you quote is a frustrated THIRD ATTEMPT at an explanation of what I find to be a simple fact of how property taxes work, and one reason why PC taxes are so high.

 

IT IS A FACT THAT A 200K HOME PAYS APPROXIMATELY HALF THE PROPERTY TAX AS A $400K HOME, AND REQUIRES ABOUT THE SAME SERVICES FROM THE COUNTY AND SCHOOL SYSTEM. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT, IT IS JUST HOW IT WORKS. THE PREVIOUS BOARD APPROVED A D-I-S-P-R-O-P-O-R-T-I-O-N-A-T-E NUMBER OF SUB-$200K HOMES AND INDUSTRIAL/COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT SURROUNDING SUBURBAN COUNTIES.

 

You sir, do not know and can not tell from any of these 3 posts what my house is worth or how I "feel" about my personal financial contribution to this county, and for that mater neither can NJTS. I never mentioned myself or my situation in any of the posts. You and he assumed whatever you assumed. A hypocrite is a person that says one thing and does another, and if you feel that any of these posts reflect that quality in myself than that is your opinion which I invite you to keep and treasure forever. Please feel free to use the "ignore" feature provided on this board.

[Animal]

For quite awhile some people on here have blamed the builders for all the problems. They say the builders at the last election supported canidates. They even say there the root of all evil,it is them that have caused our problems.

 

Well look about the county,how many homes are being built?How many new developments have homes in them?

 

Well those bad ole builders have been gone for quite awhile,and with them there jobs and the homes they lived in are vacant. They were out to make a living like anyone else,so now who is it that will take the blame.

 

In the summer the word was the builders were donating money to a campagn,well not so by then they were headed out of dodge. They were a major part of the economy,but were never given the true respect they deserved. It is supply and demand,they couldn't build what they weren't given.

 

People can't have it both ways

[feelip]

For quite awhile some people on here have blamed the builders for all the problems. They say the builders at the last election supported canidates. They even say there the root of all evil,it is them that have caused our problems.

 

Well look about the county,how many homes are being built?How many new developments have homes in them?

 

Well those bad ole builders have been gone for quite awhile,and with them there jobs and the homes they lived in are vacant. They were out to make a living like anyone else,so now who is it that will take the blame.

 

In the summer the word was the builders were donating money to a campagn,well not so by then they were headed out of dodge. They were a major part of the economy,but were never given the true respect they deserved. It is supply and demand,they couldn't build what they weren't given.

 

People can't have it both ways

 

First of all, look at the campaign contributors. Robert Moultrie and The Facility Group are builders (not very good builders, but builders non the less). There are also a number of builders and developers listed on Jerry's campaign contributor disclosure.

 

House building, like most other industries is governed by supply and demand. The ridiculous amount of house building caused an over supply of houses. When houses stop selling and a builder is sitting on five or six houses, they don't have the funds to build more. The market controls itself.

 

The developers that used the Board of Commissioners and some of the less than intelligent citizens of Paulding County to enhance their business do not deserve and will never get any respect.

 

Your post sounds as if the people that fought the out of control development should be held accountable for the housing market when in fact the builders themselves are to blame. Had they throttled the market a little and not been so greedy they just might be building a few houses right now. Especially seeing how there is an influx of 1,100 people a day into the Atlanta metro area.

 

 

[surepip]

AND, if our standing BOC had put some time, energy, and effort into having industrial/business parks built, instead of just houses, we would have local high paying jobs as well as an ongoing effort to bring more and more long term high paying jobs to Paulding.

 

Instead, our BOC put all of the eggs into the housing basket, and when the bottom fell out.......

[D-Dawg]

AND, if our standing BOC had put some time, energy, and effort into having industrial/business parks built, instead of just houses, we would have local high paying jobs as well as an ongoing effort to bring more and more long term high paying jobs to Paulding.

 

Instead, our BOC put all of the eggs into the housing basket, and when the bottom fell out.......

 

 

Come on surepip, you know this is not true. The BOC did not tell private builders that they had to build only houses. It's the land owner (aka builder/developer most of the time) that decides on what to build. It's a good example of "Free Market Enterprize"! The BOC doesn't build anything! They just examine what's presented to them.

 

That's like saying the BOC forced you to give up your business and go to work for McD's because they were short handed!

 

Sure the BOC could start building industrial parks all over the County, but who's going to pay for it? You, me and every resident in this County! And for someone who fights every tax increase with tooth and nails, are you supporting additional tax increases?

 

The BOC did not put all of anything in one basket, the "private land owners" did. They gambled and this time they lost. It was their decision and now they must live with it. The smart one planned ahead, the not so smart ones are now working in a different profession!

[lotstodo]

For quite awhile some people on here have blamed the builders for all the problems. They say the builders at the last election supported canidates. They even say there the root of all evil,it is them that have caused our problems.

 

Well look about the county,how many homes are being built?How many new developments have homes in them?

 

Well those bad ole builders have been gone for quite awhile,and with them there jobs and the homes they lived in are vacant. They were out to make a living like anyone else,so now who is it that will take the blame.

 

In the summer the word was the builders were donating money to a campagn,well not so by then they were headed out of dodge. They were a major part of the economy,but were never given the true respect they deserved. It is supply and demand,they couldn't build what they weren't given.

 

People can't have it both ways

The builders took advantage of a situation in which they could do practically what they wanted. Can they be "blamed" for that? I don't know. But the previous BOC sure can. It is their responsibility to control and lead growth. And "They can't build what they weren't given???" There are literally thousands of residential lots already approved by the previous BOC waiting to be built on. This is their legacy, a glut of small residential lots already approved without any impact fees for what will most likely be lower quality residential development that we can do nothing about. This is what they were given. They were given this county on a silver platter, and we are stuck with dirty dishes.

[Ugadawgs98]

Come on surepip, you know this is not true. The BOC did not tell private builders that they had to build only houses. It's the land owner (aka builder/developer most of the time) that decides on what to build. It's a good example of "Free Market Enterprize"! The BOC doesn't build anything! They just examine what's presented to them.

 

Exactly....the demand was not there for the commercial developments....hence no supply. There is still no demand....I can count dozens of commercial spaces vacant. Hopefully the airport and the proposed outer interstate loop will attract businesses.

 

[surepip]

Come on surepip, you know this is not true. The BOC did not tell private builders that they had to build only houses. It's the land owner (aka builder/developer most of the time) that decides on what to build. It's a good example of "Free Market Enterprize"! The BOC doesn't build anything! They just examine what's presented to them.

 

That's like saying the BOC forced you to give up your business and go to work for McD's because they were short handed!

 

Sure the BOC could start building industrial parks all over the County, but who's going to pay for it? You, me and every resident in this County! And for someone who fights every tax increase with tooth and nails, are you supporting additional tax increases?

 

The BOC did not put all of anything in one basket, the "private land owners" did. They gambled and this time they lost. It was their decision and now they must live with it. The smart one planned ahead, the not so smart ones are now working in a different profession!

 

First, Commercial Retail, and Office/Industrial are 2 completely different things. We have an Industrial Building Authority, with millions of dollars sitting in the bank who many time over could have partnered with industrial developers to build some "A" Grade Industrial Parks to bring high paying jobs to Paulding. But there has never been an effort by our IBA or BOC to do so. Instead, the IBA has been sitting on those funds for several years now waiting to spend the money at the airport.

 

And in the meantime the businesses wishing to locate to Paulding really have very few choices, if any, of available buildings to rent. And if they want rail siding the are simply out of luck. So they go elsewhere.

 

But the containers coming off the trains at the Powder Springs Intermodal yards still come right through Paulding on their way to I75, or 278 West, and we don't even have a gas station for them to purchase fuel. ALL of our Industrial/Office development has been geared to those businesses providing goods or services for local consumption. Little to nothing for warehousing or manufacturing of goods to go elsewhere.