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True, but if they are not able to get to a certain level it should not be demanded of them. Some special needs children are expected to pass the equivalent of algebra II under the new math requirements. I think that is unfair to some of those kids and to the teachers who are expected to make it happen.
The special schools and programs that you alluded to are for low income children with a desire to gain a better education. Without the desire, they don't qualify. That's all I was getting at.
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It isn't just about the child's ability. It's about the child's desire, too.
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I pay GA income taxes and live on a submarine, go figure.
But the really important question ... is it yellow?
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Perhaps if some teachers would stop believing they are the "all knowing in what is best for every one of our kids", they could actually get an education. I'm sorry where do the kids from Georgia test in comparison with the other states?? Where exactly does Paulding County fall in the state of Georgia??
This calendar is not just in Paulding or Georgia and it is not just teachers pushing it. There are school districts where parents spent years working to get their districts (or individual school) to switch to a more "balanced" schedule.
And Cathy, you know I love you, but just because something was good before doesn't mean it can't be made better.
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Would you agree that a government agency "school systems" having control of your children year round, is the same as more "big" government that always requires more or higher taxes?
Oh, and by the way with the exception of a few typos I believe I turned out okay with 3 months off in the summer. How about yourself?
What used to be done is not a good argument. People used to drive without seat belts and air bags ... people used to smoke and drink during pregnancy ... we used to "duck and cover" to protect ourselves from nuclear bombs ... heck, we've got a whole generation that was overrun with STDs because they used to do the whole free love thing. We learn and we adjust and we improve. That's the goal of the human race, anyway. The reason for the 3 month break from school is no longer valid. And I'm honestly more than a little surprised at the number of people who argue against early starts and/or year round schooling because of recreational pursuits. I have not yet seen a single, well worded argument against these types of schedules based on a true belief that they are worse for kids' educations. All of that aside ... I still do not want the State getting any more involved in my community than it truly needs to. This is not something that I feel it needs to get into.
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absolutely the schools are supposed to teach, however that doea not give them sole responsibility to teach your, children. The parents are also responsible for teaching. I disagree with year round for the elementary and middle school age children, I believe that would be better for high school ages.
Of course but do you really think the parents who do supplement the school education that their kids get won't do so with a different calendar?
As for your view on year round school ... you are exactly opposite of most people who want it for some and not for all. HS students are the ones most hindered on the job front by the year round school schedule. They are also the closest to going to a college/university schedule which is not year round. If it were to be implemented for some and not for all, I can see a much stronger argument for leaving HS out of the year round calendar.
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While I agree with you fully, Starting while it is so hot outside will hinder their learning...JMO though. I know I can't concentrate when it's blazing hot. All I'm thinking about is jumping into a pool.
The schools have air conditioning.
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I agree. But...Paulding county is full of the good ol' boys with the long lists of family names that have ran this county. No matter what, I feel that it's not going to change.
It will ... it almost always does. Just a matter of time.
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Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do when local goverment is not capable of making wise decisions.
That's what elections are for.
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sounds to me that you would rather the school system raise and teach your kids, instead of yourself.
So because someone can see the benefits of year round schooling you somehow equate that with them wanting the schools to raise and teach their children?
(On that whole "teach" thing ... isn't that what the schools are supposed to do?)
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The state already has some control over local systems...
I think we all know that but why give them more? Where does it stop?
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Well, no, but we didn't have an option for this calendar. Obviously there are many (just here on Pcom) who believe it makes WAY more sense than the ones offered to us.
It would also be easier for people to keep up with the schedule. It would be the same across the board and no one would be cofused about start/end dates, breaks, early releases, etc...
It may even make things easier for employers.
You had three options. If you don't like the way things are going, vote out the current board and vote in new members. But don't give away local governing.
Really ... look at how upset so many have gotten over Sonny's plan to to remove the voter from selecting many positions. Why is that different than this?
And what if the next step is to outlaw Spring Break because it's too much like a government sanctioned celebration of a religious holiday? Would you guys be ok with that?
There's nothing at all wrong with not liking the calendar we ended up with. There is something wrong with letting somebody else have the power that should be held locally, though.
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I never heard of having a whole week off for Thanksgiving or a week-long Mid-winter break before I moved here.
We were off Wed-Sun for Thanksgiving and Fri-Mon for 'Mid-winter break.'
It didn't kill us.
Be that as it may ... do you really want the state taking power away from local government?
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For those of you who think it is a good idea ... what else are you willing to let the state take out of the hands of local government? Remove yourselves from the emotion of the specific issue and look at what this is, what it sets precedent for. Why bother even having a local governing body for anything? Don't like the decisions being made by the current board? Get rid of them as soon as you can ... but don't give up local government for State.
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It should be left in the hands of the area school boards. They are elected by the communities they serve. They should be accountable to those same people.
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I wonder if the reactions would be different if he were calling for a minimal pay raise for them? Many of these departments have gone a number of years without pay raises because the money isn't there. Many departments haven't even gotten a basic cost of living raise in years. This is the cheapest way for the State to help these agencies do a little something for these folks who have gone without those small raises that so many others in the working world take for granted.
I'm not sure that I think now is the time considering the financial issues ahead of the state but I also don't think the idea is that far out there. We're talking about something that basically works out to be less than $1/hr, in many cases, a good bit less.
I wonder about a compromise where the state still collects taxes from these folks and so has the use of the funds through the year and then provides a total refund come tax time. The state gets a free loan, so to speak, and the folks this is proposed for get their money back in what could be looked at as an annual bonus.
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He should probably just stay home! Im thinking my dh wont be able to come home from work tomorrow morning
Not an option. You know, with him being one of those evil revenue generators in Cobb and all.
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My daughter is working on 278 until 12 or so. Gosh this worries me to death...
I hope she gets home safe and sound.
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And it is only going to get worse. Hubby is not going to have a good commute in the pre-dawn hours tomorrow.
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Don't recall reading anything in this thread that said otherwise. This is about ILLEGALS working in jobs that have been denied to American citizens. That happened in Cobb County.
There is very much of a "round em up and get em out" regardless of their immigration status theme in a lot of the posts in this thread. It was even spelled out clearly by one poster, any of them that are not US citizens should be tossed out of the country.
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pfft. you don't get your nails done, do you?
But they can speak English. They just choose not to so you won't know they're talking trash about your cuticles.
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I guess I missed that. I have no problem at all with Legal Immigration. I do want them to speak English. Americans are not able to get jobs in some areas now because they don't speak Spanish. I think there is something wrong with that picture.
I do agree with the English thing. Every other group of immigrants to this country has learned to adjust and adapt to the standard, to the norm here ... not so with a large segment of the Hispanic immigrant population, be they legal or not. That does annoy me.
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This topic is about illegals working jobs that Americans are being passed over for. 'feelip is absolutely correct, companies are being under bid and under cut, because others are using illegals to do the work. They pay in cash, do not take out taxes, or insurance, and pay less. How can Americans compete with that. To add insult to injury the taxpayer is then expected to pay their medical bills. California is a state that has encouraged this type of thing and now they want states like Georgia to bail them out.
But the subject did take a bit of a turn when it was implied by another poster that all Hispanics are illegal.
Schools may be prohibited from getting early August start
in Paulding County NEWS
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This may be an unpopular opinion but ... I firmly believe there would be no need for NCLB is our schools were allowed to group kids based on their skills and their abilities without fear of hurting anyone's feelings. It is detrimental to the better students as well as those that struggle when we try to pretend that they are all alike. The students who learn faster are held up by those that do not. The students who don't catch on as quickly often get lost in their lessons. It's almost like we run our schools like unions now ... doesn't matter how good you are or are not at your job, everyone gets treated the same.