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Satire.May want to check out this pcom thread where we pretty much hashed this one over pretty good.Again, SATIRE.
TBAR you know how I am on the subject of government intervention and more laws “if you recall our last volley” so when I saw the post on prohibition… well lets just say I got my feathers ruffled. Although I did see SATIRE all over the page all I saw was PROHIBITION.
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Then it would be time for Xian Warriors to begin taking back the land.
We need to get rig of alcohol. If it didn't exist, familes would be in better shape, addiction would be down, & people would be safer.
God never used someone who drinks to do His work.
We need more Godly politicians to do God's Work! If they would spend more time reading the Bible, they would know what God wants. So we need to make sure that GA goes dry. All of GA. All cities too. ANd we need to bring back mandatory Bible readind & prayer in our schools 'cause when they took that out, we see all the things that have gone wrong with our society! We need to stand on God's Word & our convictions because the way I read the BIble, it says no drinking at all.
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One entry found for satire.
Main Entry: sat·ire
Pronunciation: 'sa-"tIr
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French or Latin; Middle French, from Latin satura, satira, perhaps from (lanx) satura dish of mixed ingredients, from feminine of satur well-fed; akin to Latin satis enough -- more at SAD
1 : a literary work holding up human vices and follies to ridicule or scorn
2 : trenchant wit, irony, or sarcasm used to expose and discredit vice or folly
synonym see WIT
Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary
In the course of the Last Supper, according to the synoptics (but not John), Jesus divides up some bread, says a prayer (see also grace), and hands the pieces to his disciples, saying this is my body. He then takes a cup of wine, (known as the Holy Grail), offers another prayer, and hands it around, saying this is my blood of the everlasting 'covenant', which is poured for many . Finally he tells the disciples do this in memory of me.
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What we really need is to get rid of alcohol package sales in grocery stores. Kids go in there with their parents & see people buying that stuff. We need to protect the kids.
Again, it is a religious day. It is just one day. But if it is good enough for Sunday, it is good enough for the rest of the week too.
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One entry found for satire.
Main Entry: sat·ire
Pronunciation: 'sa-"tIr
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French or Latin; Middle French, from Latin satura, satira, perhaps from (lanx) satura dish of mixed ingredients, from feminine of satur well-fed; akin to Latin satis enough -- more at SAD
1 : a literary work holding up human vices and follies to ridicule or scorn
2 : trenchant wit, irony, or sarcasm used to expose and discredit vice or folly
synonym see WIT
Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary
Children raised properly do not need government prohibition on alcohol to keep them safe. I grew up in a household that always had a variety of alcohol in it and I survived. Your answer to every one of society’s ills appears to be more government control. No I do not drink a lot but if I want a drink on occasion I should be able to go to wall-mart and get it if I want it. If you do not like the fact that an establishment sells alcohol and feel that it is a threat to your children, don’t take them into that establishment.
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It's good to see a post from a LEO without a 'tude. Thanks for what you do. And maybe some of the others can learn from your example.
I’ve been training new officers for a long time. I can only hope some of it sticks with them. I think we are like wine we mellow with age. But then again when I was a 19 year old deputy at Cherokee county I still let common sense be my guide without the “tude”. Actually I was rather humbled by the “authority” given to me at that age, but I know there are those that let it go to their head, give em time most settle down.
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Finally, something I can smile about.
Until this mishap, I haven't had a ticket since I was a reckless teen. I *always* signal when I change lanes, so I guess we'll just have to be aquinted via pcom. No hard feelings. 
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Well that makes me feel better anyway. I've read time and time again that this is the case - lowlife's are everywhere.
But, then again, I'm not a criminal, wasn't "doing" anything but driving home - legally - so why not a warning? Is the window tint a zero tolerance item? You're an officer.. is there some law in GA that if you're blue lights go on, you must write a ticket? Just curious - and still a little ticked.
Nope no law at all. It is up to the officer if he writes the ticket. I give more warnings than I do tickets. I feel it is my job to educate a violator in the law he/she has broken and if I think get my point across without a citation it’s all good. My pay stays the same if I write 1 or 1000 tickets a month. I stated in another thread that certain officers have “pet peeves” that they will always write you on. Some of theirs may be window tint; I will stop and warn on that but rarely write for it. NOW if I stop you for changing lanes without a signal you WILL get a ticket from me on that one but another officer may let you go with a warning. Fail to signal lane change and have illegal tint = one citation and one warning. NOW fail to signal lane change while on the cell phone and have illegal tint = 2 citations.
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there's a difference between ticketing for window tint and finding the REAL criminals. I would much rather know that cop is out bustin labs than checking window tint with his little meter.
That being said------maybe he is being punished or was a rookie?
still think there is real cop stuff out there to tend to, sorry. Its not like she was out to purposely break the law
I have stopped more than a few cars with dark windows and found every thing from rolling meth labs, large amounts of drugs, money, dead folks. On one occasion one of my officers stopped a car with tinted windows and discovered a subject of an amber alert. There is more than meets the eye here. Most criminal activity involves some form of transportation and traffic enforcement often yields other fruit during a traffic contact.
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I wouldn't necessarily call it 'bait and trap'...but the law never should have disappeared in the first place. After the law was withdrawn, my dad was shot through illegally tinted windows. Do I think that he still would have been shot if the law had been in place? Maybe. Depends on whether or not he had been pulled over beforehand. Do I think he would have been shot without the tinting? Nope. Not at the range he was shot anyway. He got shot through a cavalier window...exact same model as my car. Standing at the same spot he was shot through, you can see all the way into my car, which has legal tint.
Back to the OP...I don't know how much the weather affects the meters, if at all. But, I would definitely do some research and bring it up in court.
The law was dropped because of a court ruling that stated that the law must apply to ALL vehicles operated on Georgia’s roadways not just those registered in Georgia. So the law was repealed, rewritten and reinstated.
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"the tint meter uses its own light source"
Thank you.
Well, now I have a lot more information on the tint meter than I had before. Are you with the Paulding Sheriff's office? If so, what brand, make and model of meter are y'all using?
nope. not with pcso but wcso.I cannot say what kind of tint meters pcso are using but the most common tint meter used in these parts is the TM100 or TM 200 mfg. by laser labs Inc. TM100 is a single unit over the glass type. The meter comes with two test standards (two pieces of tinted glass with known values) to check the accuracy of the unit. The officer is not obligated to show to the violator a test of these standards or the meter / reading. But regardless of the make model they all work on the same principle. I personally explain the tint law and limits to the violator and then apply the meter and let them see first hand the results, but that is just the way I do it.
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July 3rd, late afternoon. I was pulled over by Paulding's finest and given a ticket for the tint on my wagon. The officer would not give me the information on the meter that he used to measure the light visability through the window *plus* he was using this meter on a very cloudy day.
It really burns me that he then listed the weather conditions as being clear instead of marking the box that says cloudy. As a matter of fact, he also listed the tint on the rear of the car and the windshield (first 6 inches @ top) as being part of the citation.
The law which he cited, O.C.G.A. § 40-8-73.1 , states that a multipurpose passenger vehicle is allowed to have the kind of tint I have due to the vehicle being one type that is excluded. Now, I don't know about everybody else, but my insurance recognizes my wagon as being a VAN body style and because of this, I beleive it to be a multipurpose passenger vehicle.
Anyway, we'll see what the court says about it.
Sorry, but the tint meter uses its own light source. The ambient light has no bearing on the VLT reading of the meter. You are right to an extent on the exemption but you must read the complete statute. O.C.G.A. § 40-8-73.1 C- 6-A. so if he got you on the tint on the driver or passenger side window you will not fall under the exemption. The weather box is not going to have any bearing on this case. Under Georgia law the fact that the officer enters wrong check box data is not a defense
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But the OP didn't say anything about whether or not an older person could kill someone or not, something that came down much later when defending police
tactics.
Brutality does happen.
Yes I agree. But... Ask any of the crack heads I have had to fight with over the years or any one else who I have had to fight with to affect a lawful arrest and I am sure most will claim to be the victim of "brutality". I do not get paid to fight fair, I get paid to win. The bad guys want to fight with us and then claim "brutality" when they "lose" the fight. Let the bad guy win??? He's singing a different song.
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I don't think anyone is saying that there aren't crazy older folks out there.
The OP is about brutality, not whether or not older or younger folks can kill someone.
I've never been the victim of brutality, but I have been harassed when I was younger. (Crazy & jealous cop with a gorgeous girlfriend.)
My dad has been the victim of brutality & harassment. That was back in the early 60s right here in good ol' Paulding County.
I'm sure it happens today like it did 40 years ago. There are good cops & there are bad cops. It is just the way it is.
It is all about perception. What you see from the corner and what the officer is actually dealing with may be two different things. So what one may interpret as brutality could be the officer stepping to the next level of the force continuum as dictated by the subject’s actions or inactions. The op did make reference to an 80 year old man being “beaten”, so yes the fact that an older or younger person may do you harm comes into play here. As the op appears to be making a parallel to the officer’s actions vs. the subjects age.
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Okay, I'm out of the loop. What is "SO's" ?
SO = sheriff's office
SOs= sheriff's officers
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It's a sucky situation.Give me that much
Agreed
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I have one about the Georgia State Patrol. My mother -n- law was on the way to her aunts funeral a couple of weeks ago.She was going through the red light at the courthouse in Dallas,she went under the light while it was yellow.The cop pulled her over.She is a diabetic,her suger was over 400.The cop mistaked the fruity,winey smell on her breath for alcohol.He should have been trained correctly about that.He took her to jail and impounded her car.He did a breathalizer test on her and it was negative.The ambulance came and tested her bloodsugar level and told robocop it was the problem.He still took her to jail.She missed the funeral.Her family thought she was dead because she's in bad health.They would not call her family or let her for 8 hours.
I don’t believe that qualifies as police brutality. NEXT
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Search the NAACP site. I remember they were upset about it. The man refused to get out of his car, if I remember right.
Found this somewhere: "The brutal beating that one of your young brave offices inflicted on an old, frail black man on Oct 6, 2006 in Hiram, Ga in which the officers (G. Collins) and Capt. Roberts justified the brutality because they claim the old man, who looks to be about 80 years old, partially cripple hit one of his officers and knock him to the ground. No one in there right mind believes that this old mans actions were on purpose."i]
My brother is a police officer. Most police officers are good and honest people.
Why are you asking?
An old man can hurt or kill you just the same as any one else who wishes to do you harm. Do not let the age fool you. I have had the unfortunate task of having to deal with some of the “older crippled gentleman’ and believe me some of them are tough, mean old birds”
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Any one have one of these? I played mine until my fingers went numb.
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RIP
The Final Inspection
The policeman stood and faced his God,
Which must always come to pass.
He hoped his shoes were shining.
Just as brightly as his brass.
"Step forward now, policeman.
How shall I deal with you?
Have you always turned the other cheek?
To My church have you been true?"
The policeman squared his shoulders and said,
"No, Lord, I guess I ain't,
Because those of us who carry badges
can't always be a saint.
I've had to work most Sundays,
and at times my talk was rough,
and sometimes I've been violent,
Because the streets are awfully tough.
But I never took a penny,
That wasn't mine to keep....
Though I worked a lot of overtime
When the bills got just too steep.
And I never passed a cry for help,
Though at times I shook with fear.
And sometimes, God forgive me,
I've wept unmanly tears.
I know I don't deserve a place
Among the people here.
They never wanted me around
Except to calm their fear.
If you've a place for me here,
Lord, It needn't be so grand.
I never expected or had too much,
But if you don't.....I'll understand.
There was silence all around the throne
Where the saints had often trod.
As the policeman waited quietly,
For the judgment of his God.
"Step forward now, policeman,
You've borne your burdens well.
Come walk a beat on Heaven's streets,
You've done your time in hell."
Author Unknown
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alright - that does it for me.... I HAVE to weigh in on this one....
TBAR wasn't saying that the govt should FORCE anyone to help.... you are building a straw man with that argument...
secondly - his only point was that he couldn't believe the lack of common decency (he used the term morality, I believe) in the fact that while someone who was stabbed and in obvious distress was being stepped over and being photographed in her distress.
And you know what - I would rather get her blood on me and try to save her life than worry about HIV or any other communicable disease getting from her blood to me. I would rather face my Creator with an "I tried..." than have to answer for the picture on my cell phone.
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"Just my $0.02 but perhaps those bystanders should be charged with some sort of crime"
This sure sounded like wanting government to mandate a response to me. But TBAR and I have that straight now.
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as a person in your position- if you are still in fire and law- you are required to stop and render aid- even if off duty- if there is not an emergency crew already there.
Please tell me where this law is in the Ga. Code. The only law that I am familiar with is one that states something to the effect that once I start rendering aid I cannot release that person to someone less qualified than me to render care.
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Exactly.Criminal, no.But once they do stop to help, the Good Samaritan Laws should be strong enough to protect 'em.Morally? There is no question one should.As far as I know, only Vermont has a law that says one =-must-= stop to render aid.I'm not saying that Suzy should try to render CPR. I'm sayin' Suzy should call 911 at least.Now, my wife keeps a complete 1st aid kit in her car at all times, complete with gloves & one of those valves that let her give mout-to-mouth without skin contact. Then she has the apron thingy & all sorts of other stuff too.I keep the same for the soccer field trips.
Morally I agree with you. I just start twitching at the mention of state/federal mandates dictating my actions in a situation as the one mentioned. I personally would have probably stopped and helped her, but at my own will, not because I am compelled to do so under penalty of law.
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Operative words are "perhaps" & the "can't convict for being heartless."
Have you ever heard of hyperbole?
Yes I know…So just to clarify, you do not really think failure to respond in a situation should be criminalized
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Just my $0.02 but perhaps those bystanders should be charged with some sort of crime . . . then again, you can't convict someone for being heartless.
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