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I will just call Sage if I need something of that variety.
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The link did not work...expired?
what she said...
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Top Row 2nd pic (single white hat). Can you make a black one just like this for an adult? I can certainly wait til AFTER you have the baby and are all settled in.
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This is who our rental is through.
Then your opinion will matter greatly to me because I actually know you and trust your opinion. Is everything going good with your house?
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Check with David next door at Rental Property Management. That's what he does. And then, come see me! Good luck.
I just looked him up for a friend of mine... Maybe he should see and respond to this...
click on place page
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I just got this in an email from a friend. Looks tasty and cheap!
Green Chile Stew
1 lb hamburger (I usually use 85 cause it tastes better but if you want you can use leaner )
1/2 a small onion chopped finely
2-3 large potatoes, chopped (red or yukon gold. russets fall apart)
green chiles (whatever hotness you like. either 2 small cans or 2-3 fresh chiles roasted, peeled and chopped)
1 1/2 Tbs minced garlic (if you use fresh 1-2 cloves)
1 T butter
1/4-1/2 t ground pepper
salt to taste
water
In a large saucepan saute onion until translucent, add garlic and saute for another minute until fragrant. Add hamburger and brown evenly, stirring to break it up. Once it is brown, add potatoes. (you can saute for a couple min if you want them browned a little, or not your choice. Tastes good both ways.) Add water to cover, add chiles and boil until potatoes are cooked through.
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Well, I hope you need to put a permanent halt to it. ONLY, because that would mean you found full time work.
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Ok krm I came up with a couple styles let me know if either is what you are looking for. On the hat with ear flaps I didnt do the ties bc I get nervous with the babies but if you choose that hat but want the ties I can easily add them
I'll take them both! Thank you for the note about ties! It's been a long time since I had to worry about that.
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aww how precious!
Let me see what I can come up with and I will post a pic Well, I definitely want to buy one for her. She and Kat will love it!!!
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Zoo- See the beautiful baby to your left<-------------? Well, she is gonna need an adorable hat this winter. She prefers lady bug type colors as she collects them. This love of them began in the womb. She just loves them! hee! Can you make the type with the little ball and the ties that resembles a Lady Bug? Kaylee says thank you and so does her Nana!!
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OMG! I could sooooooo....................
NM
take it away, you silly and itty, bitty girl you!!
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I have nothing to add to this thread but a small hijack... I left my oil at your house...
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Here you go. WAFL's is post 6..........
workingforaliving
Posted 24 July 2010 - 08:13 PM
ultramsb, on 24 July 2010 - 06:19 PM, said:
Man oh, Man! Did Dick Donovan go in your corn flakes? I saw an add for Dick Donovan that said he has never won an election. Good night!
The editorial you did was nice too. My response to you is it takes one to know one! Take some Midol and let it pass.
DD hasn't won an election, has he?
He lost a bid for sheriff in the 90s and the runoff to Lane a few years ago. This is his third election and it took to a runoff.
JohnnyJ
Posted 24 July 2010 - 08:15 PM
DANG!!!
workingforaliving
Posted 24 July 2010 - 08:18 PM
Dude, just watched the video.....wideload? Did he really call you wideload?
Wow.
(for the record, I LMFAO at the video....puppies, chicks, and a-bombs.....oh, and Skeletor!)
PUBBY
Posted 24 July 2010 - 08:59 PM
What can I say, to know Dick is to be insulted by the man, dismissed by the man, with you WFAL - threatened with lawsuit by the man.
The reason I pointed out that he never won an election before is because, in the old days, a large enough percentage of the people knew what an arrogant, insufferable ass he is and wouldn't vote for him for any reason.
Oh, and Ultramsb: As far as taking one to know one, I'm not up for election and asking the people to hire me.
pubby
PS: I thought the surrounding video, from Jefferson's 1800's race to the bombs - I actually lost it at the blue screen of death in the Canadian piece - and even George Allen's Macaca statement (that one butthole comment probably cost him the presidency) put it all in context.
treasure
Posted 24 July 2010 - 09:06 PM
Wow.
workingforaliving
Posted 24 July 2010 - 09:09 PM
My screen keeps getting stuck on the video and won't load past that. I have to hit "add reply" to see what others wrote. Is it just me?
Boss Hogg
Posted 24 July 2010 - 09:20 PM
It is hanging on IE. It works correctly on FireFox and Navigator 9.
SPORTS SOURCE
Posted 24 July 2010 - 09:23 PM
Lots To Do, on 24 July 2010 - 06:27 PM, said:
OP has 2 posts, both pro Donovan. I'll leave the rest of the math up to y'all.
I noticed that, too.
mei lan
Posted 24 July 2010 - 09:23 PM
Ohhhh-kay. The only thing I can think of is that Donovan was half-way joking when he said "wide load", but even if that is the case (which I'm guessing it's not), it's still incredibly insulting, ESP. considering a camera was present. Comments on a person's physical attributes is in grievously poor taste, no matter who you are or when and where you say it. I right sure I disagree with Pubby on many issues, but in lurking here for a long, long time, I've never seen him do something that I thought was just outrageously (or even moderately, come to think of it) bad. And he did say it's an editorial. This and the thing about threatening WFAL with a lawsuit just didn't seem kosher to me. Free country, I guess, but it's not endearing me to a candidate who would otherwise have my vote inasmuch as I'm so unhappy with Lane. As my toddler nephew says, whatev.
workingforaliving
Posted 24 July 2010 - 09:41 PM
Mei Lan---
Here is the letter he sent me. I blocked out my name and address....because I don't need crazy people showing up at my house and putting DD signs in my yard
It's real and it scared the crap out of me when I first got it, which I'm certain was the intention.
momof 3
Posted 24 July 2010 - 09:44 PM
Geeez! Does the OP not realize who owns this site? There is a problem here, but as I can see it, it's not with Pubby.
workingforaliving
Posted 24 July 2010 - 09:49 PM
Boss Hogg, on 24 July 2010 - 10:20 PM, said:
It is hanging on IE. It works correctly on FireFox and Navigator 9.
I downloaded Google Chrome and it's working. It was weird that I could post, but I couldn't see my posts.
CeeJay
Posted 24 July 2010 - 09:50 PM
I could never run for office. Everybody I know has a nickname, some of them not-so-pc. I guess some people have a weird way of showing affection. The worse the nickname I give you, the more I love you.
I'm not sure if DD has a weird way of showing affection or if he is ticked off at being publicly slandered during his campaign. I assume the latter. But who knows, maybe he really digs you Pubby.
mei lan
Posted 24 July 2010 - 09:52 PM
workingforaliving, on 24 July 2010 - 10:41 PM, said:
Mei Lan---
Here is the letter he sent me. I blocked out my name and address....because I don't need crazy people showing up at my house and putting DD signs in my yard
It's real and it scared the crap out of me when I first got it, which I'm certain was the intention.
Yeah, that would've sent me scurrying to my lawyer's office, too. I mean, I don't know you from Adam, nor him, so I have no interest in the difference(s) between the two of you. But it seems a little...odd...for a person running for elective office to not go out of his/her way to try to be gracious and professional in all respects in order to put forth the best front to people. IMHO, by him responding this way to your statements (even if his response is true, which I have no way of knowing, and don't care), it's brought a lot of unwelcome negative attention to him. If instead, he had said (on here) something like "well, she has a right to her opinion and we will agree to disagree, but I pledge to do as good as job as I can as DA," then it would have been over and nobody would even remember the discussion. But as I keep finding myself saying of so many people running for office, whatever.
workingforaliving
Posted 24 July 2010 - 09:59 PM
mei lan, on 24 July 2010 - 10:52 PM, said:
Yeah, that would've sent me scurrying to my lawyer's office, too. I mean, I don't know you from Adam, nor him, so I have no interest in the difference(s) between the two of you. But it seems a little...odd...for a person running for elective office to not go out of his/her way to try to be gracious and professional in all respects in order to put forth the best front to people. IMHO, by him responding this way to your statements (even if his response is true, which I have no way of knowing, and don't care), it's brought a lot of unwelcome negative attention to him. If instead, he had said (on here) something like "well, she has a right to her opinion and we will agree to disagree, but I pledge to do as good as job as I can as DA," then it would have been over and nobody would even remember the discussion. But as I keep finding myself saying of so many people running for office, whatever.
I told someone the other day that if he would have just ignored me, I would have eventually gone away when my posts faded into a distant pcom memory.
The letter sent me over the edge. I went from being pissed off because I had to fire him and hire a new lawyer to being threatened....and I didn't go to a happy place over it.
To be honest, I was all set to apologize and retract, but I just couldn't.
feelip
Posted 24 July 2010 - 10:05 PM
Dick is running for DA.
Dick is a bully.
Don't be a DICK.
workingforaliving
Posted 24 July 2010 - 10:07 PM
feelip, on 24 July 2010 - 11:05 PM, said:
Dick is running for DA.
Dick is a bully.
Don't be a DICK.
Dude, you almost made me pee on myself.
momof 3
Posted 24 July 2010 - 10:17 PM
workingforaliving, on 24 July 2010 - 10:41 PM, said:
Mei Lan---
Here is the letter he sent me. I blocked out my name and address....because I don't need crazy people showing up at my house and putting DD signs in my yard
It's real and it scared the crap out of me when I first got it, which I'm certain was the intention.
Donovan Letter WFAL.jpg
How did how know who you were? Was he reading comments on Pcom that he took exception to? You'd think that the rule of 'If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen' would apply since he is a politician. Wow, the word Dick is stuck in my mind for sure after this.
workingforaliving
Posted 24 July 2010 - 10:19 PM
momof 3, on 24 July 2010 - 11:17 PM, said:
How did how know who you were? Was he reading comments on Pcom that he took exception to? You'd think that the rule of 'If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen' would apply since he is a politician. Wow, the word Dick is stuck in my mind for sure after this.
In one of my posts IN A POLITICAL THREAD I said I had recently fired him as my attorney. I guess I was the only one bold enough to do that and then brag about it
Obviously, as his former client, he has my name and address.
former member
Posted 24 July 2010 - 10:21 PM
I'm so glad my better half decided not to enter politics. No matter what, it is just nasty.
workingforaliving
Posted 24 July 2010 - 10:24 PM
former member, on 24 July 2010 - 11:21 PM, said:
I'm so glad my better half decided not to enter politics. No matter what, it is just nasty.
It's nasty when you try to stay clean.....but when you do crap like DD has done, you pretty much bring it on yourself. Threats and name calling BY the person trying to get elected.... :shakeshead:
momof 3
Posted 24 July 2010 - 10:29 PM
workingforaliving, on 24 July 2010 - 11:19 PM, said:
In one of my posts IN A POLITICAL THREAD I said I had recently fired him as my attorney. I guess I was the only one bold enough to do that and then brag about it
Obviously, as his former client, he has my name and address.
Wow, thats a little scary.
PUBBY
Posted 24 July 2010 - 10:37 PM
CeeJay, on 24 July 2010 - 10:50 PM, said:
I could never run for office. Everybody I know has a nickname, some of them not-so-pc. I guess some people have a weird way of showing affection. The worse the nickname I give you, the more I love you.
I'm not sure if DD has a weird way of showing affection or if he is ticked off at being publicly slandered during his campaign. I assume the latter. But who knows, maybe he really digs you Pubby.
CeeJay:
I know that he wasn't ticked off because the video was taken at the GOP picnic on June 18th - a week before WFAL made her comments and before there were any negative comments on paulding.com.
It was taken when I was wandering around the GOP picnic and he just came out with that in his typically arrogant "I'm the only person that counts" demeanor. I was going to walk up and interview him and give him a little earned media, as they say, but he decided to insult me instead.
Obviously, I turned off the camera. I blew it off and forgot about it because that is just the way he is and has always been. (His personality is one of the reasons I've never supported his candidacy any time he has run. I've never openly opposed him or suggested he is the wrong guy for this office ... until he threatened WFAL ... which is what tells me this guy is not just not my personal pick, but would be a disaster in office.)
I know his 'resume' of experiences, including law enforcement, etc. would seem to be a good fit for that post. But that little snipped of video, which shows his true personality, does sum up why he never won an election and why he shouldn't win.
The greater reality of politics is that a lot of folks don't know the candidates very well. And so when someone calls them a pompous ass they figure it is because the person calling names is the ass because they've never seen that side of the guy.
It wasn't until last Thursday that I went back to see if I could find the clip. It just occurred to me then that this little bit of video may clue folks to who Dick Donovan really is, without having to call names. I mean, I'm no glutton for punishment and I sure am not eager to be known as wideload, but hey, I figure by failing to use my name (he knows it), he just insulted every fat person in Paulding.
pubby
CeeJay
Posted 24 July 2010 - 10:48 PM
I'm sure he was pissy then, this is from May 26, 2010: http://paulding.com/...ost__p__3170534
I'm not defending him calling you a name. I was just pointing out motive.
Madea
Posted 24 July 2010 - 10:49 PM
What video are y'all referring to?
workingforaliving
Posted 24 July 2010 - 10:56 PM
CeeJay, on 24 July 2010 - 11:48 PM, said:
I'm sure he was pissy then, this is from May 26, 2010: http://paulding.com/...ost__p__3170534
I'm not defending him calling you a name. I was just pointing out motive.
Maybe. He's running for a position as the people's lawyer and I don't think it was wrong to tell people what kind of lawyer he was [for me].
However, there's more to that thread: http://paulding.com/...ost__p__3178031
And that was mild compared to the response he made later on...but that thread is in the political forum.
Either way, nothing that I've said about the way Donovan conducted himself was false.
Madea, on 24 July 2010 - 11:49 PM, said:
What video are y'all referring to?
It's in post #5.
Madea
Posted 24 July 2010 - 10:59 PM
workingforaliving, on 24 July 2010 - 11:56 PM, said:
It's in post #5.
Well, it didn't say "Donovan" and I KNOW that's not his picture. Plus, several folks mentioned it was stalling their computer.
workingforaliving
Posted 24 July 2010 - 11:06 PM
Madea, on 24 July 2010 - 11:59 PM, said:
Well, it didn't say "Donovan" and I KNOW that's not his picture. Plus, several folks mentioned it was stalling their computer.
It depends on your browser if it stalls.
It jacked my IE, but Google Chrome isn't having any problems.
The piece with Donovan is after the puppies, chicks, and a-bombs.
mei lan
Posted 24 July 2010 - 11:16 PM
workingforaliving, on 24 July 2010 - 10:59 PM, said:
I told someone the other day that if he would have just ignored me, I would have eventually gone away when my posts faded into a distant pcom memory.
The letter sent me over the edge. I went from being pissed off because I had to fire him and hire a new lawyer to being threatened....and I didn't go to a happy place over it.
To be honest, I was all set to apologize and retract, but I just couldn't.
Well, knowing me like I know me, I'd have probably done the same. Or worse. Like my apology would have said I do apologize for whatever I said that sent you up the creek, but I'm also sorry that your being such a pissant provoked me into doing it. Or something to that effect. Which prolly wouldn't be conducive to peace between us.
Actually, I really wouldn't have said that on a public forum (the pissant part). But I do believe I'd have been...er...motivated, shall we say, to have my lawyer discuss things with him. Which maybe you did that, too. But this whole thing has seemed puzzling to me. His reaction, that is.
CeeJay
Posted 24 July 2010 - 11:20 PM
Pubby used to be more careful about allowing opinions on attorneys: http://paulding.com/...dpost&p=1525847
I understand the impulse to discuss an attorney if you feel you haven't been served appropriately or fairly. Trust me, I really do. If you decide you just HAVE to say something publicly, you should expect a response. I'm not sure anyone would be successfully sued for doing what WFAL did, but I would worry like hell if I ever needed to use the legal system in that county again. These old dudes are all very well acquainted.
workingforaliving
Posted 24 July 2010 - 11:20 PM
mei lan, on 25 July 2010 - 12:16 AM, said:
Well, knowing me like I know me, I'd have probably done the same. Or worse. Like my apology would have said I do apologize for whatever I said that sent you up the creek, but I'm also sorry that your being such a pissant provoked me into doing it. Or something to that effect. Which prolly wouldn't be conducive to peace between us.
Actually, I really wouldn't have said that on a public forum (the pissant part). But I do believe I'd have been...er...motivated, shall we say, to have my lawyer discuss things with him. Which maybe you did that, too. But this whole thing has seemed puzzling to me. His reaction, that is.
I wrote a "retraction" letter. My sister told me not to post it.
PUBBY
Posted 24 July 2010 - 11:24 PM
CeeJay, on 24 July 2010 - 11:48 PM, said:
I'm sure he was pissy then, this is from May 26, 2010: http://paulding.com/...ost__p__3170534
I'm not defending him calling you a name. I was just pointing out motive.
CeeJay :
I'm more familiar with the exchange that occurred in the donovan v wfal topic which occurred a week after (June 26th) the one you cited. I was more aware of it because it occurred in late June and it apparently spurred the threat of legal action.
Indeed, I remember the first one now but that topic was basically dead until Dick started whining.
Harry Truman, BTW, said about politicians taking heat ... that if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.
pubby
CeeJay
Posted 24 July 2010 - 11:25 PM
The case law says retraction rule doesn't apply to Internet chat room postings:
Williamson v. Lucas 11 (by its plain language OCGA 51-5-11 meant to apply only to newspapers and other printed media). First, they contemplate actions between an aggrieved party and a newspaper, television station, or radio station. They do not appear to address actions between two individuals. Second, these statutes do not reach Internet media such as chat rooms. The statutes, to the contrary, address media which broadcast programs at specific times to specific audiences, whereby a retraction would likely be heard by the same audience hearing the original defamatory remarks. To the contrary, the audience in a chat room is in a constant state of flux, making the remedy envisioned by OCGA 51-5-12 inapplicable.
workingforaliving
Posted 24 July 2010 - 11:29 PM
CeeJay, on 25 July 2010 - 12:20 AM, said:
Pubby used to be more careful about allowing opinions on attorneys: http://paulding.com/...dpost&p=1525847
I understand the impulse to discuss an attorney if you feel you haven't been served appropriately or fairly. Trust me, I really do. If you decide you just HAVE to say something publicly, you should expect a response. I'm not sure anyone would be successfully sued for doing what WFAL did, but I would worry like hell if I ever needed to use the legal system in that county again. These old dudes are all very well acquainted.
Were he not running for a public office, it would be a different situation. My comments about his abilities as an attorney were made in a politically motivated thread and provided first-hand testimony about his abilities as an attorney, which directly correlate to his abilities as a DA.
Otherwise, I'm certain I would have kept my mouth shut. All of my posts about DD have been related to his abilities to fulfill the duties of the office for which he is seeking election.
I am not the type of poster who says things and then ignores all of the responses to it. There is a whole thread in the political forum where I openly asked questions of him, but he didn't answer.
However, there's a line. Making threats crosses that line. He knows he doesn't have a case (per the Supreme Court), and if he doesn't know, then he doesn't need to be DA. I can only assume that I came across to him as a woman who can be pushed around. The time I spent with him, I was very emotionally vulnerable, since the situation deals with my child. He sent the letter to shut me up and shut me down. That is absolutely unacceptable.
CeeJay
Posted 24 July 2010 - 11:43 PM
You better hope he wins so he'll be too busy to mess with you. If he loses, he may go after you (and Pubby) with both barrels. Where there is a will, there is a way. Also, I would hate for you to have to pay to defend yourself. Sometimes making the other party pay legal fees is the entire point of the exercise.
I also kinda hope he doesn't see this thread.
Behave so I don't have to worry about it. lol.
PUBBY
Posted 24 July 2010 - 11:46 PM
CeeJay, on 25 July 2010 - 12:20 AM, said:
Pubby used to be more careful about allowing opinions on attorneys: http://paulding.com/...dpost&p=1525847
I understand the impulse to discuss an attorney if you feel you haven't been served appropriately or fairly. Trust me, I really do. If you decide you just HAVE to say something publicly, you should expect a response. I'm not sure anyone would be successfully sued for doing what WFAL did, but I would worry like hell if I ever needed to use the legal system in that county again. These old dudes are all very well acquainted.
CeeJay:
I don't care if he sees this thread.
Yes, I do suggest folks be careful discussion attorneys in private practice. You'll note that the post you cite was in 2007 and certainly Mr. Donovan was not an active candidate asking for us to hire him by giving him the most votes at that time.
So, as a general rule, I discourage openly discussing attorneys in private practice because, well they are a litigious sort and their cost of litigation on their own behalf, is near zero while your cost could be in the hundreds of dollars per hour. I discourage that kind of conversation because there are some that will sue at the drop of hat and libel suits are bad for my business.
However, the law is such - and the protections to the average citizen to discuss a candidate candidly increase dramatically when a person runs for public office. Their record is and ought to be available for public scrutiny including the opinions of their fellow citizens of their competence.
That is what upset me so much by Mr. Donovan's letter that sought to shut her up by threatening a lawsuit and punitive damages for libel.
I mean, what makes him so special that we can't discuss his qualifications openly and without fear of being sued when he is asking us for a job. That he tried to shut one of us up for discussing that is, in my mind, reason enough to not vote for him.
Why?
Because his act shows his disrespects the law as established by the US SUPREME COURT's Sullivan V. NYTimes decision which recognized the public's need for this kind of discussion and so expressly protected the public from exactly the kinds of bullcheese that Mr. Donovan and his letter represent.
pubby
PS: CeeJay, your suggestion that he may come after WFAL and I with both barrels is also instructive. I would ask, in light of that, if you believe in addition to being rude, disrespectful of the first amendment protections afforded by the Constitution, that you believe MR. Donovan is also vindictive at heart?
Madea
Posted 25 July 2010 - 12:03 AM
PUBBY, on 25 July 2010 - 12:46 AM, said:
CeeJay:
I don't care if he sees this thread.
Yes, I do suggest folks be careful discussion attorneys in private practice. You'll note that the post you cite was in 2007 and certainly Mr. Donovan was not an active candidate asking for us to hire him by giving him the most votes at that time.
So, as a general rule, I discourage openly discussing attorneys in private practice because, well they are a litigious sort and their cost of litigation on their own behalf, is near zero while your cost could be in the hundreds of dollars per hour. I discourage that kind of conversation because there are some that will sue at the drop of hat and libel suits are bad for my business.
However, the law is such - and the protections to the average citizen to discuss a candidate candidly increase dramatically when a person runs for public office. Their record is and ought to be available for public scrutiny including the opinions of their fellow citizens of their competence.
That is what upset me so much by Mr. Donovan's letter that sought to shut her up by threatening a lawsuit and punitive damages for libel.
I mean, what makes him so special that we can't discuss his qualifications openly and without fear of being sued when he is asking us for a job. That he tried to shut one of us up for discussing that is, in my mind, reason enough to not vote for him.
Why?
Because his act shows his disrespects the law as established by the US SUPREME COURT's Sullivan V. NYTimes decision which recognized the public's need for this kind of discussion and so expressly protected the public from exactly the kinds of bullcheese that Mr. Donovan and his letter represent.
pubby
Your inexperience in that arena is showing. They rarely represent themselves.
CeeJay
Posted 25 July 2010 - 12:12 AM
I just try not to mess publicly with attorneys. I know opinion is protected in chat room posts, but I worry what was posted could be considered actual knowledge, not just opinion, and may not be protected.
Many lawsuits against posters are stalled because of the anonymity of chat rooms, but Mr. Donovan knows exactly who WFAL is (and you, judging by his comment in the video).
I just don't poke the legal bear too much. (I still think Judge Beavers is an ass, but that's as far as I go. lol)
PUBBY
Posted 25 July 2010 - 12:18 AM
CeeJay, on 25 July 2010 - 12:25 AM, said:
The case law says retraction rule doesn't apply to Internet chat room postings:
Williamson v. Lucas 11 (by its plain language OCGA 51-5-11 meant to apply only to newspapers and other printed media). First, they contemplate actions between an aggrieved party and a newspaper, television station, or radio station. They do not appear to address actions between two individuals. Second, these statutes do not reach Internet media such as chat rooms. The statutes, to the contrary, address media which broadcast programs at specific times to specific audiences, whereby a retraction would likely be heard by the same audience hearing the original defamatory remarks. To the contrary, the audience in a chat room is in a constant state of flux, making the remedy envisioned by OCGA 51-5-12 inapplicable.
That 1982 decision has been superceded by the 2002 Ga Supreme Court Decision Mathis v Cannon which does provide protection against punitive damages if the person alleged to defame someone makes a retraction. Indeed, it applies the same protections to Internet chat rooms - in the case cited it was a yahoo chat room - as apply to newspapers.
pubby
CeeJay
Posted 25 July 2010 - 12:20 AM
PUBBY, on 25 July 2010 - 12:46 AM, said:
PS: CeeJay, your suggestion that he may come after WFAL and I with both barrels is also instructive. I would ask, in light of that, if you believe in addition to being rude, disrespectful of the first amendment protections afforded by the Constitution, that you believe MR. Donovan is also vindictive at heart?
Unless he calls all big-boned people "wide load"...
I don't know if I would say vindictive, but he seems to have to desire to prosecute stuff.
Everybody has their personal "don't go there" issues. You can tease me about anything, but don't say I'm not a good parent or not good at my job. Everything else is fair game. He seems to be a bit sensitive about being accused of not doing his job. If he loses, he may end up with time on his hands. He has sent a warning. I don't know him, so I don't know if that was his legal first step or if he was just "I'll have my attorney send a letter"-ing.
What do you think? Is it posturing or a portent of things to come?
PUBBY
Posted 25 July 2010 - 12:26 AM
Madea, on 25 July 2010 - 01:03 AM, said:
Your inexperience in that arena is showing. They rarely represent themselves.
I understand that. I also note that there are exceptions and that the letter threatening suit by Mr. Donovan was from Mr. Donovan. Further, I'm sure if a case ever gets to trial, all attorneys would bring in someone to actually try the case. But in the initial stage - particularly when a suit is threatened and the main task is intimidation - bullying - most attorney's will act as their own agents.
Oh, and CeeJay ... truth has been a defense to libel in American common law since 1735 when a jury nullified the British law that defined seditious libel. It is an interesting read, particularly this quote from Zenger himself:
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"No nation, ancient or modern, ever lost the liberty of speaking freely, writing, or publishing their sentiments, but forthwith lost their liberty in general and became slaves" stated Zenger.
pubby
Madea
Posted 25 July 2010 - 12:27 AM
Well, for me, one thing that always sticks in my mind is how someone treats my children. I found Mr. Donovan quite charming in interactions with my children.
CeeJay
Posted 25 July 2010 - 12:37 AM
It sounds to me like you and WFAL are aware of what could possibly happen and are both willing to stay the course with this. Keep us posted.
I don't know if something like this would change my vote. I don't care if the DA is sweet-natured. In fact, maybe we need a dick for the job. lol.
PUBBY
Posted 25 July 2010 - 02:15 AM
CeeJay, on 25 July 2010 - 01:20 AM, said:
Unless he calls all big-boned people "wide load"...
I don't know if I would say vindictive, but he seems to have to desire to prosecute stuff.
Everybody has their personal "don't go there" issues. You can tease me about anything, but don't say I'm not a good parent or not good at my job. Everything else is fair game. He seems to be a bit sensitive about being accused of not doing his job. If he loses, he may end up with time on his hands. He has sent a warning. I don't know him, so I don't know if that was his legal first step or if he was just "I'll have my attorney send a letter"-ing.
What do you think? Is it posturing or a portent of things to come?
CeeJay:
I think the proper term is 'litigate' ... not prosecute. Donovan has never been a prosecutor. He bills himself as a criminal defense attorney.
If he had wanted to be a prosecutor, he could have hired on with any number of district attorney's offices at anytime since he held a license to practice law - some 32 years from his resume.
Instead he figures he can take a short cut to the top and just convince the public to put him in office by voting out a guy who does have fifteen years of prosecutorial experience.
So, when it is all said and done, here is this guy with no prosecutorial experience riding a negative ad he paid some high-priced consultant in Princeton New Jersey $12,750 to produce that comes up saying that the courtrooms are dark which is absurd. They wouldn't be dark because the local courts, with three judges, have enough civil cases on the docket alone to keep five judges busy not to mention the criminal cases.)
Now this guy is so 'sensitive' about his actual record as an attorney that he is compelled to threaten a single mother who believes he was not effective counsel in her child custody case with libel - bully her to shut her up when he knows he has no case and she is protected by the first amendment.
And if you look at his record you quickly realize that he has never worked closely with other attorneys in an office setting - there are five or six assistant DA's in the District Attorney's office - in his 30 years as a criminal defense attorney.
Bill Foster, when he was a DA, came from a law firm as did James Osborne. Drew was with a law firm first, had a single professional office and then worked in the DA's office with three or four other Assistant DA's in Polk County for nine-years before he was appointed Paulding's District Attorney. Most folks think he's put together a good staff and the staff's of the other previous DA's were pretty good too. Why? Well, these folks know how to hire and fire and work with other attorneys in a group setting.
Dick apparently has no similar experience. Don't know if that is because he is a loner with a big ego? What I do know is he just thinks we ought to make him boss of a big law firm - the people's law firm - because he and his $28,500 Marietta consultant says so.
Well, Dick, I don't know if you have the people skills to run a ten-fifteen person office. I mean working alone is great and I see you have a lot of experience doing that. But managing other people requires you have some people skills. Personally, I have a reason to question your people skills, you know. Bottom line, I don't know that Donovan would be an effective manager and leader. Running a single lawyer professional office isn't the kind of background I would look for to hire someone to do that.
This is an important decision for us, as voters, to make. It is not a popularity contest and it is not a beauty contest. We are supposed to be making a decision to determine who is the most qualified for the post.
I don't believe that Dick is it.
pubby
naturegirl
Posted 25 July 2010 - 05:23 AM
WOW is all I can say. Well except for the fact that yes, most attorneys around town know Mr. Donovan very well. I would stretch this a little further and say he truly is lacking in people skills, unless you are on his side. He tends to be a "little" biased when it comes to someone pointing out his flaws. My experience with him goes back many years.
Just don't forget sometimes it's better to stick with the Devil you know. JMO
Happy Wife And Mom
Posted 25 July 2010 - 09:07 AM
CeeJay, on 25 July 2010 - 01:37 AM, said:
I don't care if the DA is sweet-natured. In fact, maybe we need a dick for the job. lol.
Um. Yes and no.
MrsB
Posted 25 July 2010 - 09:28 AM
For some reason I can't scroll past Pubby's video on the first page, so I can't see all the posts. Is Dick D. suing this board? (Am I allowed to post that?) I am lost.
Lady Raider
Posted 25 July 2010 - 09:34 AM
lumak
Posted 25 July 2010 - 10:25 AM
MrsB, on 25 July 2010 - 10:28 AM, said:
For some reason I can't scroll past Pubby's video on the first page, so I can't see all the posts. Is Dick D. suing this board? (Am I allowed to post that?) I am lost.
I can't either...Pubby's video is post #5 and then page 2 starts with post #41 or something like that -- what happened to #6 thru #40? I can't scroll past pubby's video.
PinkCrickett
Posted 25 July 2010 - 10:26 AM
Well, I had no idea who to vote for DA, but no doubt about who I won't be voting for. Thanks so much for the enlightment!
Happy Wife And Mom
Posted 25 July 2010 - 10:38 AM
lumak, on 25 July 2010 - 11:25 AM, said:
I can't either...Pubby's video is post #5 and then page 2 starts with post #41 or something like that -- what happened to #6 thru #40? I can't scroll past pubby's video.
I thought it was just me.
rockysmom
Posted 25 July 2010 - 10:43 AM
Happy Wife And Mom, on 25 July 2010 - 11:38 AM, said:
I thought it was just me.
Nope, I can't see the posts either.
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I, for one, wish that one could trust the information given by a county official.
I find it hard to believe that one can dispute the facts.
Rescues being scared off is just another nail in the coffin of what once was a very humanely run Animal Control facility.
I, for one, wish that one could trust the information given by a pet rescue.
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all I got....
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here are a couple web sites.....
The Rachael Ray ones look really good!!! I'm gonna have to try them!
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I jsut suggested you!!!
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I wish you had someone who could pick up a rider!
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I'm so ugly the birds won't even poop on me.
gassy, yes. ugly, no.
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Like I said earlier to you, you have survived a lot more than this and you will survive this as well.
BIG HUGS
Great minds and all. You are a survivor and all will be well with the world!!
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As much as I feel for someone who reaches that level of despair, it is hard to justify taking, or attempting to take, the lives of others. Why share your problems with the rest of the world. I think that is where a lot of people are coming from when they do not consider him a victim. A victim implies he had no control over the situation. He did. And that is a sad choice he made.
I will keep his family and friends in my thoughts and prayers, as I will the officers and rescue personnel involved. One person's actions harmed many people yesterday, and I don't think that was even his intent.
As much as I understand your post... I must disagree. When one of my family members made the decision to take his life, we had a grief counselor come talk to us. One of the things he said that helped us all... When a person gets to the point of such dispair, their true self has long since gone. My FIL took his life and I have to really think this is the case. He was not someone that you would ever imagine being in this situation.
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I think there are 2 victims here. I know that they are trained for this and they know at some time they may have to face this but the deputy that fired the shot in my opinion is also a victim in this. This is something he will have to go through the rest of his life.
Prayers for all involved.
Tona- My only hope is that he finds comfort in knowing this was unavoidable. He was doing his job and there was no other alternative for him. If he hadn't been there- someone else may have been killed because of this man. I do feel bad for the officer and hope he is able to overcome this.
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I really love it when a criminal is caught by painful means.... dog bite, taser, gun shot.... either works fine with me.
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My old boss and his family live there. I hope they are ok.... he isn't 47 so I know it wasn't him.
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OMG! I have seen THAT store and thought the exact same thing. Well, at least now I know where it is and won't make the mistake of going in. I have a supplier.