Ugadawgs98
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Imagine that....he is desperate and is pulling at straws. Sounds like the only "expert" they could find to side with them was a little shady himself.
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The only answer is line the rioting areas with
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Sometimes you really have to wonder how the rumors get started.
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Whatever his preferences - it is irrelevant.
Well...in this case his "preferences" could very well be the cause of death. It is very relevant and death from that sort of fetish is not uncommon.
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Never click a link in an email....financial institutions do not operate that way. If they send you a notice you should go log into your account as you normally would.
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If you don't sign the ticket in GA, you can go to jail.
Yup...by signing your name you are only promising to appear in court to answer to the charge. If you do not sign you must post a cash bond.
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Not the point I was making. My point is that dementia might have been the reason for the whole debacle in the first place.
Doubtful considering how she ran to the media afterwards looking for sympathy.
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Who knows...the man was a freak. I saw where his last divorce papers were made public and his soon to be ex-wife made claims of "deviant sexual behavior which was potentially deadly". Sound like it fits autoeroticism perfectly.
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The are several steps in escalating use of control, first is the physical presence of the officer, then vocal commands (i.e. raising voice), soft handed force, hard handed force, and so on. Typically the officer can use one or two levels above the resisting force. In this case, his presence didn't gain compliance, so he used vocal commands (remember his training and experience are part of his what he chooses to use to gain compliance, he also read her body language and her initial vocal responses), an LEO must retain control of the situation, which ultimately led to her tasering
Another thing most people do not know is most agencies place physical force on a higher level than the Taser. If you go straight to physical force you have to explain why you skipped other reasonable force options which were available. Everyone seems to think the Taser is the worst thing you can do other than shooting them.....it is not remotely true.
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If he would have thrown her to the ground to try and handcuff her........and he broke her hip.......what would folks say then?
Or tried to physically handcuff her and broke a wrist. I am sure they would say he should have used the taser....after all...anyone with common sense knows a 72yo woman's bones are fragile.
Some situations for officers are "no win".....this is one of them. No matter what action he takes it will be critiqued.
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So I guess the answer is to only arrest the people who want to be arrested. If they do not want to go to jail then just let them go.
These topics are so frustrating because some things in life people will never understand without experiencing it first hand....many aspects of police work fit that category. It is much easier to critique a situation by watching a video that you get to pause and rewind than it is to be tasked with arresting someone who really does not want to go to jail which puts your personal well being at stake.
One of my first supervisors taught me a long time ago...."If someone puts you in a position where you have to use force then you overwhelm them....this is not a school yard fight...it is life or death....every fight you are in is filled with guns, knives and batons. If you lose the fight everything needed to kill you is on your belt and is there for the taking."
I know for me the ones that want to fight concern me much more than the ones who want to run away. You never know where their limit is before they give up. Will he give up when I get him on the ground? When I punch him? Hit him with the baton? Will this end up in a struggle for my gun?
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Yes...they legally rape people.
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You are right. There was no arrest attempt made until another officer made an arrest. The officer doing the beating made no arrest. I can's see where the guy dis anything but stand there with his arms down to his side taking the beating. I saw no resistance.
What??????????? Not placing himself into a position to be handcuffed when instructed is in itself resisting. When you physically resist the act you have stepped up the level of resistance even more. The officer only has one option at that point to effect the arrest...force.
The force is used to obtain a submission to the arrest because you should never try physically overpower someone to place them in handcuffs. The only time you can safely do that is if you have officers present to do it with quickness. That is a good way to get hurt or get in a life or death struggle for your gun or the other weapons on your belt. You step up the level of force until you overcome the resistance.
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Yup...that is what it is looking like. I read the plane got conflicting airspeed readings from several different systems. The pilot basically had no way of knowing his true speed when he entered the storm.
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Hope is near.....Atlanta should be improving soon....they are tearing down all the projects and sending the inhabitants and their crime to the suburbs.
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I'm sure; if the video was missing, all together, it would be better for the cop. Like you said the audio is definitely missing, but like PUBBY said: "What I see is the cop was insulted and he was going to punish the guy for giving him lip and did."
So, I think the guy did give the police officer lip, but instead of actually using a good arrest procedure the cop proceeded to beat the man like he was the executioner of a sentence instead of an arresting officer. Cops do not punish, that is the Judge's job. He gives the sentence.
You have to be arrested first. This guy tried to make sure that did not happen.....fortunately he lost.
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"Stop snitching".
Todays thug youth think it is better to allow violent criminals to go unpunished so they can continue to victimize people than it is to be a law abiding citizen who will stand up for what is right.
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The reason they are cutting it is because lack of attendance. Many parks were completely shut down....we are lucky the just limited the days on this one.
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as for the "Wondering in search of narcotics" thing,
Just a version of the common law loitering/prowling statute that is worded so it specifically deals with those loitering to buy illegal drugs.
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That is of course if he even KNEW there was a camara there and lot would not even care if there was. There are a lot of really stupid people out there.
I guess most of the confusion is people are only accustomed to life out here in the "country". They is what they are accustomed to and that is how they judge sitations. They have never seen a true inner city crime ridden area and how people live there. Criminals do things out in the open and they do not fear the police for the most part....they dope dealers do their deals on the sidewalk, prostitutes negotiate on the street corner, gang bangers make no attempt to hide their affiliation.
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Probable cause is lacking, for sure, SR!
Even if he was wondering, which I doubt, no drug dealer is going to be so stupid as to sell narcotics in from of a restaurant's video camera.
I hate to tell you that you are way off base. Every cop knows the people in their beat and what they do. Some steal, some do dope, some sell dope, some prostitute, ect. This guys own mama said the "police know him". I would bet they know his history, who he hangs out with and what he does. You have no idea what occurred before he walked into camera range, who he had been talking to or how long the officers had been watching him. You actually have no idea why they even stopped him....only his version of events which is a little weird (zip up your shirt?).
I cant imagine that anyone would say they were harrassed for walking if an officer stopped to help someone who might look like they could use it...You do not live in the world of a police officer then.
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And no, I dont think that any officer is "required" to do anything, you gruesomely mis-interpreted my post, but out of all the officers that passed right by us in both directions, I would have thought that at least one would have offered some sort of assistance.
Thats part of the job too.
And how many of those officers did you try to flag down? If I pass someone walking I always look as I pass or check the rear view to see if they make an attempt. Walking is not illegal and many people use it as a means of transportation. Since it is not illegal and unless there are circumstances the officer has no right to stop you. I can guarantee if they do someone would be on here complaining about being harassed for just walking.
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The thing that bothers me is that when he went to put him on the car the first time, you could see that the officers intention was not to cuff him and arrest him but rather he threw him against the car as a body 'blow' - the officer actually threw his body into the man ... and then jerked him back and to the ground in what appears to be one complex physical maneuver.
Notably, I had to review the video a couple of times to make absolutely sure that the guy wasn't actually resisting but you can see clearly in the video that he threw the man against the car slamming his body into his back and using the bounce from that to add momentum to the throwdown. Of course the rest of the beating happened after that but the crime and responsibility is determined with that first interaction.
Not necessarily....resistance can start with something very subtle which is hard to see on video especially if the officer is prepared for it and reacts accordingly. Given the way the officer approached this guy I would assume he was prepared for resistance due to the behavior he had displayed so far. When you begin to escort someone who may become combative you are guard for anything....tensing the muscles, attempting to turn into you, reaching for a object you perceive as a possible weapon, trying to stop walking and many other things are all signs of an impending fight. You are forced to react and react now. He takes him to the ground which is pretty standard in our line of work when trying to control someone. Instead of submitting he forcefully rolled back over against the attempts of the officer to keep him down. The fight is on from there.
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Joe Cop is going to take a lot one day....
Buddy we are already taking a lot every day due to the deterioration of society's values. We are out there dealing with the violence and the lawlessness the "thug" culture surrounds themselves with trying to keep the good people safe.
*****Missing Person******
in Paulding County NEWS
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I agree....if LE wanted this on the news it would be there. Something is making them hold back....perhaps they are uncovering much different info than what is seen from the outside.
I really do not think very many people know how many people are reported "missing" to LE each day. It is not all that uncommon for people to disappear for a few days or weeks just because they want to get away from everything.