President Trump to speak at 3:00 PM

[The Sound Guy]

Rumor has it he will declare a federal state of emergency.  

He needs to man up on this one.  This crisis will take leadership, not tweets, to restore confidence. 

[Foxmeister]

COVID-19 has proven Trump to be correct when he said the trade balance with China benefited them a hell of a lot more than the US.  US corporations are losing their asses on Wall Street because the US and the world has become too dependent upon China as their supply chain for goods.  Almost all the pharmaceuticals used in the US are made in China.  All our medical equipment is made in China.  China is threatening to withhold our pharmaceuticals and we should never put the country in a position to be held "hostage" like this by another country.

Personally, I suspect China developed this virus as a biochemical weapon to be used to lower their population; especially among the elderly.  They most likely thought they could contain it.  It's an interesting theory; especially because to the population control measures they had put in place in the past.  The first was limiting couples to two kids and then later one kid.  Now they have a senior population without a family to take care of them; leaving the responsibility to one child and the government.  It's an interesting discussion to say the least.
 

[gpatt0n]

5 hours ago, Foxmeister said:

COVID-19 has proven Trump to be correct when he said the trade balance with China benefited them a hell of a lot more than the US.  US corporations are losing their asses on Wall Street because the US and the world has become too dependent upon China as their supply chain for goods.  Almost all the pharmaceuticals used in the US are made in China.  All our medical equipment is made in China.  China is threatening to withhold our pharmaceuticals and we should never put the country in a position to be held "hostage" like this by another country.

Personally, I suspect China developed this virus as a biochemical weapon to be used to lower their population; especially among the elderly.  They most likely thought they could contain it.  It's an interesting theory; especially because to the population control measures they had put in place in the past.  The first was limiting couples to two kids and then later one kid.  Now they have a senior population without a family to take care of them; leaving the responsibility to one child and the government.  It's an interesting discussion to say the least.
 

Yeah, that's it, blame it on China because as we all know that Chinese culture, which dates back four-thousand years, literally venerates one's ancestors as a key element of their national religion so they'd be the first to murder their elderly.  Oh, and DJT and the GOP (remember GWB) have been doing their best to cut social security for the last 15 years and, indeed, however Covid-19 evolved to be, one might suggest that "incompetence as a conspiracy" because it conveniently creates a blameless  path for culling the sickest people on social security  ... especially if introduced into nursing homes where there the impact would be greatest in terms of cutting medicare and medicaid spending. 

As far as the impacts on the economy, this is the kind of thing those who foster GOOD GOVERNMENT like to plan for so the most STUPID things that could happen, won't. You know like that NSA Pandemic section that Trump killed the budget for thinking these folks are smart and they know I'm a fake so get rid of them.  Same at the CDC and for that matter, The USDA has had much of its scientific expertise literally fired because science is a form of truth that is incompatible with the fantasy world Trump, the GOP Senate, the Fox propaganda machine all orchestrated by the true believers in fantasy whose religious practice is often intertwined with the prosperity gospel.

If you want to call the world-wide reliance of international trade as well as the JIT dynamic that allowed reduction of inventories held by manufacturers and distributions as mistake, at least have the intellectual honesty to recognize that so called American corporations (most are multi-national corporations) and their greed, as a expressed in lowing costs (JIT, out-sourcing of goods, etc.) is the justification.  Corporate presidents just wanted a few more points of profit when they calculate their margins and if they could get them by shipping fabrication to China, India, Mexico, Indonesia, Bangladesh, Vietnam, etc. they did.

BTW: This has transformed the world and raised the vast majority of humanity out of abject poverty.  Considering half of humanity was living in abject poverty in 1960, that is an amazing improvement. That prosperity is what "we the people" did for the world that makes the United States so great.

And if you think this was some kind of "US government" plan to ship jobs off shore, please get real. Governments did what these moguls of multinational corporatism dictated and, with the Republican definition of 'honest politician' becoming operative ( "An honest politician is a politician that once bought, stays bought - Simon Cameron Abe Lincoln's first Secretary of War.) they  did it with the money they saved cutting taxes meaning it was 'free for them' to do so.

I actually think it will be a lot more productive to lay off the politically inspired conspiracy theories.

 

 

[Foxmeister]

China is a communist country that has and continues to imprison those in the country who voice support of freedom and liberty.  Lets not forget the Chinese government has executed hundreds of thousands for opposing communism.  This is also a country that first limited couples to have only two children and then later only one child in attempts to control its population and has violated basic human rights since communist took the country over.  According to you though, this country should be trusted.

You advocate a national health care plan and have stated in the past that health care is not rationed in countries that have one and that wouldn't happen with a national health care plan here.  One now only has to look at Italy and how they are dealing with COVID-19 to see that isn't true, as they have now moved the elderly to the bottom of the list for ICU beds and ventilators, stating there is not enough of either to go around; because the mortality rate is higher with the elderly than it is with younger people.

I think our government should put the people in this country first before they dole out billions of dollars to other countries in fighting poverty.

 

[gpatt0n]

8 hours ago, Foxmeister said:

China is a communist country that has and continues to imprison those in the country who voice support of freedom and liberty.  Lets not forget the Chinese government has executed hundreds of thousands for opposing communism.  This is also a country that first limited couples to have only two children and then later only one child in attempts to control its population and has violated basic human rights since communist took the country over.  According to you though, this country should be trusted.

You advocate a national health care plan and have stated in the past that health care is not rationed in countries that have one and that wouldn't happen with a national health care plan here.  One now only has to look at Italy and how they are dealing with COVID-19 to see that isn't true, as they have now moved the elderly to the bottom of the list for ICU beds and ventilators, stating there is not enough of either to go around; because the mortality rate is higher with the elderly than it is with younger people.

I think our government should put the people in this country first before they dole out billions of dollars to other countries in fighting poverty.

 

Foxmeister:

I'm no fan of China and I'm aware of the millions who were killed by intentional flooding in the period after WWII when the commies were taking over. They've done some horrible things but you do know the colonists and Spaniards were known to lace blankets with small pox and, in the end, native Americans (from the artic circle to the antartic) were nearly exterminated.  Hell, we were still being hit with "the only good injun is a dead injun propaganda in the 50's.

Obviously you're in the minority in your thinking that all men are islands and communicable diseases developing into full blown pandemics are a figment of our imagination because 'evolution' doesn't exist meaning that there is no such thing as a novel coronavirus.

As far as our government putting people first; you got to know that it was the owners of multi-national corporations that were being put first because they could avoid the high cost of labor for their products here and simply told their bought and paid-for politicians to make it even more profitable to move jobs to other countries.  These moguls of American - not multi-national corporatism - wanted the extra profit and were willing to tax the American middle class to create a military big enough to play policeman for the world so they could exploit the labor and resources of those in other countries.  Read the book by Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler "War is a Racket" sometime.  Written in the time Al Capone, he compared the penny-ante rackets of that mobster with the acts of then corporate America saying with the power of the US Marines as his muscle, he could  teach Capone some new tricks.

I say these things because they are true and I am hoping to get you to drop the propaganda. It is BS. 

EDITED TO ADD:  Ran across this story in vice news (based in NYC) which if you go deep, will tell you how destructive false information is or can be and how to recognize it. Here is the link: How to Stop Your Boomer Parents From Spreading Fake Coronavirus News