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"those that do not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it."
Amen!
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That husky is beautiful!
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I was on High Shoals after the accident happened. There were still EMTs and Law Enforcement cars still there, quite a few in fact, in two locations a mile or two apart. I was wondering if the two accident locations were related, and what happened. It was hard to tell what was going on. The only vehicle I saw damaged was... messed up.
I pray for all involved.
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efhutton,
It is late and I will debate your post about impact fees another time.
But the initial thing that comes to my mind is, what is your agenda? More and better schools or are you against impact fees all together?
I don't know if you have been asked these questions, and it may be none of my business, but do you live in Paulding County? Are you making any money by the people who are trying to get this bond passed?
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Here is a current amendment we need to contact our legislators about and tell them we want the above added. I haven't studied the details in this one, so I am not sure if I agree with it or not. But I haven't found anything addressing schools... yet.
HB 25 - Georgia Development Impact Fee Act; change definitions
Current VersionPDF VersionSponsored By
(1) Lindsey,Edward 54thCommittees
HC:SC:Current Status
12/14/06 - House PrefiledFirst Reader Summary
A BILL to be entitled an Act to amend Chapter 71 of Title 36 of the Official Code of Georgia Annotated, relating to the "Georgia Development Impact Fee Act,"
Here is the link - http://www.legis.ga.gov/legis/2007_08/search/hb25.htm
BTW, don't be fooled by the first few sentences. As much as it may hurt, read the whole thing before forming an opinion.
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Here is a good start for an amendment.
HR 260 - Bds of ed; impact fees; Gen Assem authorize collection and use - CA
Burkhalter, Joseph Mark (41st) Watson, Stanley (70th) Jamieson, Mary Jeanette (22nd)
Trense, Sharon (44th)
Status Summary HC: Ed SC: FR: 02/09/99 LA: 03/03/00 H - Favorably Reported (Sub)
First Reader Summary
A RESOLUTION proposing an amendment to the Constitution so as to provide that the General Assembly may authorize local boards of education to levy and collect development impact fees and use the proceeds to pay for a share of the cost of additional educational facilities; and for other purposes.
Page Numbers: 1 2
House Action Senate
2/9/99 Read 1st Time
2/10/99 Read 2nd Time
3/3/00 Favorably Reported
Sub Committee Amend/Sub
Version by LC Number
LC 11 9759 As Introduced
LC 27 1168S H - Favorably Reported (Sub)
HR 260 LC 27 1168S
A RESOLUTION
1- 1 Proposing an amendment to the Constitution so as to provide
1- 2 that the General Assembly shall authorize local boards of
1- 3 education to levy and collect development impact fees and
1- 4 use the proceeds to pay for a share of the cost of
1- 5 additional educational facilities; to provide for the
1- 6 submission of this amendment for ratification or rejection;
1- 7 and for other purposes.
1- 8 BE IT RESOLVED BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF GEORGIA:
1- 9 SECTION 1.
1-10 Section VI of Article VIII of the Constitution is amended by
1-11 adding at the end a new Paragraph V to read as follows:
1-12 "Paragraph V. Development impact fees for educational
1-13 purposes. The General Assembly shall provide by general
1-14 law that the local board of education of each school
1-15 system may levy and collect, within the school district
1-16 governed by such board, development impact fees as a
1-17 condition of development approval by counties and
1-18 municipalities and for such systems to receive and use the
1-19 proceeds thereof to pay for a share of the cost of
1-20 additional educational facilities to serve new growth and
1-21 development."
1-22 SECTION 2.
1-23 The above proposed amendment to the Constitution shall be
1-24 published and submitted as provided in Article X, Section I,
1-25 Paragraph II of the Constitution.
1-26 The ballot submitting the above proposed amendment shall
1-27 have written or printed thereon the following:
1-28 "( ) YES Shall the Constitution be amended so as to
1-29 provide that the General Assembly shall
1-30 ( ) NO authorize local boards of education to levy
1-31 and collect development impact fees and use
1-32 the proceeds to pay for a share of the cost of
1-33 additional educational facilities?"
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SG:
Consider who spent the preponderance of money to elect not only the legislators but the BOC chairman and even the school board and you begin to understand the impact of money on politics. (I suppose we need to go over to the probate judge and just total it all up.)
Surely the BOC chairman can be expected to be the champion of common sense reform in the Impact fee laws. I mean he's said publicly that he favors them ... but if what you say is right, either Sen. Heath is lying or the chairman is not really that strong in his support for impact fees.
Considering the persistent rumors of business partnerships with builders throughout the county, banks, Florida condo's etc, one might at least begin to wonder about the chairman's committment.
And while it would probably make sense for the Superintendent to be for impact fees, the reality is that there is very little interest in such fees outside of the Atlanta metro area as few other areas are growing as rapidly. Hence, the state educational establishment has a much different set of priorities including how to get and spend more state money in slow growing school districts ... pretty much ignoring the plight of places like Paulding. Maybe Mr. Heath just misunderstood and she is really for them and is pushing hard? Or maybe she has some relationships with folks closely allied with the building/development industry as well?
And then there is the Speaker, who is a known partner with a builders/developer in at least one vacation property ... was it on St. Simon's? ... and who knows what else?
I really don't imagine that Bill Heath is that eager to take on impact fees either; it is just not his style. Instead, his style seems to be writing bills making it malice murder to perform an aboortzion and warning the citizens of his district of the impending invasion of sex shops.
pubby
PS: Here's a politician joke ... you know, kind of like lawyer jokes. It says that the definition of an honest politician is one who once s/he is bought, s/he stays bought.
It may be surprising but there are areas outside of the Atlanta area looking at imposing impact fees.
"Jones County has decided to explore the strange (at least for Middle Georgia) new world of impact fees, and not a second too soon. The county has hired a consulting firm to help it navigate the many issues that encompass impact fees."
Link to article - http://www.macon.com/mld/macon/news/opinion/16665860.htm
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BB, please give us some examples, time and time again....
The link below this quote is full of information about impact fees.
"They'll say new taxes would cover that," Petri said of developers. "But if that were true, our school districts would have money piled so high that you wouldn't be able to see the elementary school."For this reason, most say it is just important that legislation create some option for those growing school districts to collect fees to offset some of the cost of new buildings that will constantly be required as years pass.
"Some people will say to me, 'well gee, we should have done it 20 or 30 years ago'," said Petri. "Absolutely we should have. But the sooner we get it done, the better."
Here is a link about impact fees - http://www.impactfees.com/
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planforpaulding,
I heard the questions have to be submitted before-hand and all of them may not be answered. Can you explain how the questions and answers will be handled?
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I hope everyone will go ask the chairman why they do not change Pauldings zoning to reduce the growth.
Will they actually let someone ask that question... and will he actually answer the question?
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I am really not sure how old the beagle is. But the yellow one has, what looks to be, a cataract in one eye.
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Before I would take them in .I would call Paulding Animal Hospital. They will call the owner for you. Owner just might be worried about them. Would be a fast way to get them back together.
I will definately call the vet, and/or take them to animal control, in hopes their family is looking for them. I already have many pets, and want them to be back with their owners.
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Prayers said.
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They are both males... very playful and cute. The beagle is a young dog.
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Thats nice that you are giving them a warm home for the night. Hope you find their Mommy and Daddy.
Thanks.
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Christy, only one has a tag... I'll post a pic tomorrow.
Thanks
Thank you for caring enough to take them in...I'm right down the road from you. PM me if you need some help.Thanks! I may take you up on that.
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Thanks to everyone who has responded so far.
Old Cartersville Hwy. is in my vacinity... at the Hwy 61N end.
Ktan458, do you have more info?
Southern Scarlett, the dog tags say Paulding Animal Hospital and we may take them to animal control tomorrow, but if not we will call the Vets office.
I am a little skeptical about posting pics and someone trying to claim them that shouldn't. I had rather get a PM with a description. What do ya'll think, is that too paranoid?
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I noticed two small dogs running around my neighborhood earlier this evening. I was hoping they were just out and about for a little while and would make it back home soon. About four hours later I noticed them in my yard. When they came to me I put them in a safe place at my home. They may not belong to the same family... one still had it's broken lead attached to it's collar and the other has a rabies tag on it's collar. Please let me know if they could be yours, or may belong to someone you know.
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One more and I'll quit for tonight.
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QUOTE(Grumpybear @ Mar 24 2005, 05:20 PM)My concern is where are the kids going to go to school? The schools are already overcrowded and with all the development going on it's going to be worse this coming school year. The new high school is not set to open this school year so where will all these kids be put??? The halls are already crowded, classrooms are at capacity and how many more trailers can you possibly add? Maybe the builders should be responsible for the next set of schools!
My point is, we didn't just wake up in 2006 and realize this. People have been seeing this coming for some time... yet what has our county level and state level elected officials been doing to address this? I think it's called 'passing the buck'.
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Found this while looking at old posts
Actually one of the developers at Tuesday's meeting spoke to this issue and ended up allowing $500 per home to be paid to the schools ($150 ~$250 thousand if memory serves ... my notes are at the office).He offered that while he hadn't visited with the Paulding schools but the way they handle things in Cherokee County they customary do meet with the schools. The developers there, he said, have calculated that the cost of trailers for the students works out to roughly $500 per home and they pony up this amount when they get the occupancy permit, I believe.
Sounds like some developers don't mind paying for trailors. I wonder if anyone told them we need more than trailers?
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Sprawl and Land Use - http://aqg.ecology.uga.edu/documents/epa_dorfman.pdf - Be sure to look at page 13
"Schools are really the biggest (and hidden) economic issues when dicussing growth.What is Quality Growth
What is Quality Growth - http://aqg.ecology.uga.edu/documents/epa_marlowe.pdf
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Freebird,
Here is some info Lil lu posted 1/21/2005 from this thread - What is your opinion about this growth? - http://www.paulding.com/forum/index.php?sh...pic=17957&st=80
There is more info out there... I'll keep looking from time to time and post it when I find it.I don't know if any of you get the Paulding at a Glance magazine but we happened to have gotten one at our office today - there is a 4 page article in there regarding development and Paulding County written by Jeffrey Dorfman from UGA....if you can get your hands on a copy, it's worth the read - a partial quote from the article states:"What these studies have shown is that, on average, residential development (houses, apartments, manufacture housing) provides only $0.87 for every $1.00 it costs the local government in services. In other words, our county and city governments spend more money providing services to homeowners and renters than they get back in revenues. Businesses pay an average of $3.70 in revenue for every $1.00 they get back in services. Farms and forestlands pay $2.78 in revenue for every $1.00 they receive in services. Thus, turning farms into businesses will not hurt the county budget, but turning farms into houses will make the county government poorer."
It goes on to say:
".....bedroom communities are not economically sustainable at tax rates that are likely to be levied. In fact, when a rural community with a large base of farm and forestland begins to convert that land into residential development, either as a planned growth strategy or due to market forces and a lack of growth control measures, the local government is virtually guaranteed to head down a path of tight budgets and increasing property tax rates. The cost of providing services to the new residents rises faster than the new revenue revenue received from their property tax payments, sales taxes generated and other fees. That means that existing residents will pay some of the costs of providing services to their new neighbors."
Under Conclusion:
"While the lure of an increased property tax base if often attractive to a local government when it is considering a request to approve a new subdivision, local government officials must realize that their expenditures will likely rise more than their revenues. This results in a budget shortfall unless the millage rate is increased. Unless businesses are added to a county at a rate sufficient to offset the impact of the new houses, a growing county must either cust services or raise taxes."
"Further, in counties such as Paulding the impact is likely to differ greatly between the county government and the school system. Booming residential development will have a somewhat negative impact on the county government, but will have an especially large negative impact on the school system's finances. Schools are very expensive and only very high priced homes can come close to generating enough school-collected revenue to support even one child per household."
Of course, this is not the complete article - it is 4 pages long but quite an interesting read. The editor's note states that Jeffrey Dorfman is a professor at UGA in the Dept of Agricultural & Applied Economics; he researches and speaks extensively on issues related to development, land use, and farmland preservation.
Really??? He was just a really weird programmer when my husband worked with him about 12 years ago at Brinks........
Yep... among other things. I'll have to go find that also, but I think he has a farm also. I'm pretty sure I read on some of his campaign records... probably with the Secretary of State or State Ethics Board... next thing we will find out is they have taken those records offline.
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Give me some time to find what I have read and I'll post the info. I think there are some old posts on paulding.com with that type of info also.
School Bond
in General Countywide News (archive)
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I also mean no disrespect and think wanting to be a good teacher shows a very noble spirit, someone that has courage and is generous, to say the least. But if I vote no for this bond that does not mean I think our children, teachers, or education system are not important. I think education is very important! However, when you talk about who supports who, that is a more complicated issue. We could also say this is not only a local community issue ... this is a state issue as well. While we work hard to take of and provide the most for our local community... what is happening on a state level? Budgets are being cut and our local legislators appear to be asleep at the wheel. And what is our county government trying to do to relieve the burden on our education system?
Luke 21:1 As he looked up, Jesus saw the rich putting their gifts into the temple treasury. He also saw a poor widow put in two very small copper coins. "I tell you the truth," he said, "this poor widow has put in more than all the others. All these people gave their gifts out of their wealth; but she out of her poverty put in all she had to live on."