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Only because you're too gutless to demand those who are reaping 95 percent of the reward to pay their fair share Rhett. did the philosophy If you don't work, you don't eat really work for thousands of years. Hell man, you do know that the kings didn't work yet their hired the bullies who went out and stole the food of the peasant farmers and it go so bad, that Marie Antionette, when told the people were starving because there was no bread, innocently suggested, 'let them eat cake.' See, there was this entire table full of dozens of different kinds of cake in the palace. pubby

He was the sitting president; he was doing a pretty good job; the discoveries came after Ken Starr, originally investigating a failed real estate venture called whitewater, rather than giving up after spending $50 million investigating it, decided to spend another $300 million doing whatever he could to 'get' Clinton in what was a notably partisan driven investigation. I decided to give this guy, who was persecuted to the nth degree, the benefit of the doubt. He didn't let me down on policy matters. Oh, and your imprecision in the use of the English language is laughable. I never sa

Something like 60 percent of the women will report they've been groped or otherwise sexually assaulted in their lives. You can bet that the percentage figure for men who have done groping or committed sexual assault is somewhere in the same range. I can't imagine a 'fraternity bro' who was half drunk for four-five years running was able to maintain his decorum throughout such an ordeal. Even smart people make mistakes. Some smart people make multiple mistakes. Again, my approach to politics and sex is that I acknowledge that anything extraordinary in the realm of sex is easy to chara

Actually culture is more like DNA and the virus of violence in this case is based on an inherent weakness in the culture. What is the culture is the first question. A good part of it is the early programming most of us had that we're kind of like cowboys, rough, tough, independent and we don't take cheeze off no one. You know what I'm speaking of. This cultural model of the American male has been hyped politically since Ronald Reagan, a 'cowboy' movie star and host of the General Electric theater that featured westerns and also had 20 mule team Borax as a sponsor became president.

Only if you believe that culture is a virus. pubby

Maybe we should think about this issue less in big cultural terms that imply racism or other hot-button issues as the cause and look at it like a public health issue instead. Golly gee willickers. Zorro: (From the Journal of the American Medical Association network.) pubby

Gosh, gee, gewillickers, is this a police issue or a public health issue. One study says the latter: (From the Journal of the American Medical Association network.) pubby

I don't oppose Roy Moore for his penchant for younger women. I oppose Roy Moore because of his stand on the issues ... I would have opposed him before these revelations. What I'm pointing out zorro, is that you opposed Bill Clinton presumably on the so-called character issue. Did you have problems with his policies? You do know his administration literally ended its run with a budget surplus. There was wholesale welfare reform during his administration that was roundly criticized by many in the Democratic Party. His administration also was responsible for destroying Glass-Stegal regu

This is whataboutism ... again. Thomas Jefferson said it best: The people are the only censors of their governors: and even their errors will tend to keep these to the true principles of their institution. To punish these errors too severely would be to suppress the only safeguard of the public liberty. The way to prevent these irregular interpositions of the people is to give them full information of their affairs thro’ the channel of the public papers, & to contrive that those papers should penetrate the whole mass of the people. The basis of our governments being the opinion of

If it is about black on black violence then how is gang violence relevant? Well, obviously it is relevant because it influences black on black crime. Well, so do the other issues cited as established in the links that you posted as being the basis of your opinion ... Obviously, you totally ignore your own sources ... this being from one of them you cited: Are you too dense not to know, for instance, that the aspect of change in policing was considered only one aspect? Are you unable to make the connection between the recommendation in the article you cited that referenc

Because their reporting, which included multiple interviews including interviews with others who said they were aware of the allegations at the time, as well as the fact that they had to do their jobs to get these folks to go on the record with their allegations - including use of their names and images - pretty much established since they were almost universally Republicans who had supported Donald Trump, that they were telling the truth. Fact is, I'm pretty sure their vetting process was equal if not more accurate than the notoriously unreliable polygraph test that psychopaths and narcissi

I've studied you guys for some time and the best I can determine, the extent of logic you use can be summed in the following sentence. "I'm right because as we all know I'm right wing and since it is the 'right' wing, that means I'm right because it says I'm right, right." And when confronted, what do you say? Well here is one misogynistic response: The point is you wouldn't know logic if it bit you on the ass. pubby

you're basing that figure on the dubious 'gunfacts.org' website. I could say that 89 percent of all white collar criminal activity is conducted with GOP assistance and participation on a web site and cite a statistical compilation of the FBI to confirm it and it would still not be true. I loved some of the statistical tricks that site cited. here is an example: Of course ... what wasn't revealed was that in Miami, in 1981, 32 percent of the homicides were performed with machine guns; Minnesota police recovered in 1900 firearms from crimes in 1994 alone and 88 were machine

Zorro: I would encourage you to read the documents you cited. To wit, your general commentary is along the lines we can do nothing about guns and in regard to anything else, the prescription offered is just lock more people up. In contrast, one of the articles you cited said: Two things. It is a mistake to concentrate solely on the police brutality. I agree; but that doesn't mean that policing policy gets a pass. Indeed, it is the first real step that those who are vulnerable to recruitment by gangs will see that suggests that society in general cares. It is also something

I really don't have time to do a great deal of research so here is a quick one from Gabby Gifford's site. The footnotes in the quotes should go to the cited sources but apparently only go to the footnotes to the article. Here are the footnotes in the article: pubby

Here is a graphic example of the circular logic I see in your post. Like so much of what you post, it is impossible to comprehend logically. pubby

That you're asking me to parse that question is kind of silly. Either you see the present circumstance - the status quo - as good or bad. If it is bad it needs to be improved and if it is good, as you seem to suggest by your resistance to change and blow back against those who are demanding it. So we know where you stand and it is squarely on the side of the status quo which you contend does not discriminate against anyone on the basis race, sex, sexual orientation or age. Most who look at the system and its outcomes and when looking, find that discrimination exists in some case

Sure we care and no we are not ignoring it. We are doing what we can. Think about what it says to every person when cops seemingly can shoot and kill an unarmed person and get a vacation for it. Do those actions in any way express the necessary example that society as a whole thinks lives, including black lives have value? People learn who they are in large part from the way society treats them. It effects their self-esteem and while individuals can overcome such negative programming - the rise of the black community through the civil rights movement of the last century shows tha

Nope, never voted in a Republican Presidential Primary election in Georgia. I would vote in the Repubilcan primary when the only choice I would have in November is the candidate or none of the above as in races for sheriff, county commissioner or coroner. Having grown up in the south, a region known for one-party systems going back before my birth, the idea is absurd, especially when the major party goes to the lengths it does to deprive what few opposition party members gain election through the wonder of gerrymandering. From the first time I met you, Zorro, I pegged you as an author

That's an awfully personal message in a public forum that say nothing about the topic GD ... Maybe you'll answer whether you think Roy Moore is fit for office and why he is fit for office ... rather than trying to awkwardly call me a liar. pubby

Wrong ... I don't think all republicans are evil. I've voted in local elections (which means I've voted the republican primary ballot) which I wouldn't do if I thought all Republicans were evil. SO STOP PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH. I'm a believer in the two party system. I have often found inspiration from Republicans. My mother was a Republican county committeewoman when she was alive. It has been rare, but not unheard of especially in the 60s and 70s that I've supported Republicans as in the south they were often the only progressive voice in a race. What I don't like are reactionary

You obviously don't read a thing I've written. I've noted that it is the establishment Republicans who are the one's who are hoping Moore's candidacy tanks because they know that he is such an overwhelmingly obnoxious guy because he is the perfect poster boy for the privilege white nationalist personalities assert for themselves from waving guns on stage to assaulting teenage girls on a whim to ignoring SCOTUS and other court directives. I fully expect him to win and while if i were in Alabama, I couldn't bring myself to vote for him; I honestly don't care if he wins or loses. It is not a

I disagree totally. I've said things about Roy Moore in each response. The topic is about Roy Moore. You've not mentioned Roy Moore choosing instead to try and derail the topic and make it about something else ... i.e. a classic exhibit of whataboutism; a known and disreputable propaganda technique. Did I mention that Roy Moore, who said that he never knew the woman who accused him earlier today inscribed a Merry Christmas greeting in the woman's high school annual, signing his name Roy Moore, DA ... and dating the inscription. I don't think the woman showed that bit of memorabili

What does your comment have to do with the topic; that Roy Moore is unfit for office? pubby

I love the projection GD pubby