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A few documents came over the transom regarding the Truth in Paulding effort which points to the inconsistent positions Todd Pownall and Vernon Collett made under oath as they protected their 2014 electoral benefactors at Delta.

 

The ghosts of which I refer are those whom anyone who knows Todd, in particular, would either be highly impressed with his writing or would suggest he plagiarized (had ghost written) a couple of the letters he was sending, like to the CEO of Delta. The point is the letters were quite well written, as was, for instance, the resolution we KNOW Delta Lawyers wrote for him; though he claims it for his own or when that got too be too big a joke, claimed that Vernon wrote it.

 

Anyway, everyone knows that if you're caught plagiarizing in school, it is an automatic F ... or in some institutions ... a expelling offense (cheating). We know this, of course, because the statements he and Vernon made UNDER OATH just are so obviously contradictory lies; especially when you see on his Delta's lawyers log sheets, they wrote the ordinance.

 

Below are a couple of letters that Todd claims he wrote which has me asking are there ghosts in Paulding?

Letter to Richard Anderson.pdf

October 2014 letter to DOT-Pownall.pdf

 

Next is the Time line covering the the overall picture and documents (highlighted) regarding when things happened. It is pretty self-explanatory.

 

http://www.paulding.com/pdf/Timeline of Events and exhibits.pdf

 

The last item that came over the window was the privilege log of the attorney's who were providing service to Todd as he was doing the bidding of Delta's CEO in the January-February 2015 time period. Included is a listing of Todd's phone calls. I looked at them and I saw a couple of 770-505 numbers and even a couple of 770-443 xxxx and 770-445-xxxx numbers but I also saw a ton of numbers that were directed from Atlanda proper and NE Atlanta ...a lot more than from the NW ... which is the location of where his constituents are. Todd seems to be doing business in places other than Paulding, at least from those phone records. But don't believe me, look for yourself and decide whether just his pattern of calls from this time shows someone working hard with folks outside Paulding.

 

http://www.paulding.com/pdfs/Privilege Log.pdf

 

Bottom line, in today's GOP, no one is going to try Todd or Vernon for purgery because, well right now Dick Donovan is running for re-election too.

 

Just tell me what you think.

 

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Pubby will need an entire box of kleenex when Todd wins the Post 2 primary....boo hoo....

 

So tell me Rhett; which liar will you be more proud of, Donald, Todd or Vernon?

 

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Pubby will need an entire box of kleenex when Todd wins the Post 2 primary....boo hoo....

There's an entire Facebook page dedicated to pubby's dirty politics.

 

No, I had nothing to do with it.

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Yep, you could answer NO because, much to my chagrin, we don't have Todd on record admitting that the draft letters he wrote to the FAA and to Delta's president weren't ghost written by someone else. However, we know in our guts that this true (the letters were written by a third party for effect ... and Todd was not their author.

 

GD, for comparison. I can't prove that image you have for your avatar is not you because I don't know you from Adam. If I were to believe it was, though, I would be gullible as hell. By the same token, I can't prove that an attorney at Troutman-Sanders drafted the letter that Todd sent the FAA or that Todd didn't write it himself, but knowing Todd, I would be as gullible as hell if I thought he wrote it.

 

There are a lot of things we all know are true although we may not have the time, money or dedication to prove it and feel we would be portrayed as being as gullible as hell if we did.

 

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Yep, you could answer NO because, much to my chagrin, we don't have Todd on record admitting that the draft letters he wrote to the FAA and to Delta's president weren't ghost written by someone else. However, we know in our guts that this true (the letters were written by a third party for effect ... and Todd was not their author.

 

GD, for comparison. I can't prove that image you have for your avatar is not you because I don't know you from Adam. If I were to believe it was, though, I would be gullible as hell. By the same token, I can't prove that an attorney at Troutman-Sanders drafted the letter that Todd sent the FAA or that Todd didn't write it himself, but knowing Todd, I would be as gullible as hell if I thought he wrote it.

 

There are a lot of things we all know are true although we may not have the time, money or dedication to prove it and feel we would be portrayed as being as gullible as hell if we did.

 

pubby

Then why not stick with what you can prove, or at least have strong evidence of instead of running a smear campaign? Frankly, you're destroying what tiny bit of credibility you have left.

 

Oh and...plenty of people here will vouch that my avatar is not me. I'm much uglier. :)

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Don't forget, Crowe tried for at least the County Chairmanship that I remember before he rode the airport issue into office, I can't remember if he tried before that or not. . Why did he so want to get into office in this county?

 

Besides, if his campaign is *any* indication of the way he governs I want him as far away from my tax money as possible. Holy carp! His team didn't even bother to scan the addresses on the voter list and send only one card to each address! We've gotten three or four of every single card he's sent. EVERYONE else sent ONE to xxxxxxxx family. Good grief, I've seen drunken sailors that didn't waste money like this guy.

 

He and Martin have got a money printing machine somewhere, the two of them have been somewhere around 30% of the political mail we've gotten and we've gotten a LOT.

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To be honest, I'm not on either "side" of this. The politics of this county and the strange bedfellows it makes is sickening!

Beyond that, I'll keep my positions to myself.

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I'm hoping Crowe, Pownall & Collett coast to victory...if they can stop 737's from landing here, they've got my support.

 

By the way Pubby, the next commercial runway will be in Cobb County (Dobbins). Dobbins is right by the interstate and if you haven't noticed, Paulding has no access to the interstate. Duh.... the long term planners know that too. Make a note of it and check back in 5 years and tell me just how right I was.

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Then why not stick with what you can prove, or at least have strong evidence of instead of running a smear campaign? Frankly, you're destroying what tiny bit of credibility you have left.

 

Oh and...plenty of people here will vouch that my avatar is not me. I'm much uglier. :)

 

Obviously, you've never heard of Hume's skepticism. Hume said, and I challenge you to say with absolute certainty that the sun will come up in the east tomorrow morning. I think we all know it will but there remains the possibility that something may happen to upset that reality.

 

What?

 

A quarter-earth sized asteroid could be traveling in from another solar system or even galaxy at near the speed of light, hit the earth and then, there is no tomorrow.

 

As far as your ugliness, I think you've convinced me it may even be more than skin deep ... but I still couldn't prove that picture is not you.

 

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There are still a lot of Rebels, in Paulding county, Pubby! When they hear the words "Make America Great Again" they are thinking of the old South rising again.

 

They are still Rebels.

 

Here's what Sherman said about these Rebels,

 

Letter of William T. Sherman to Henry Halleck, December 24, 1864

 

William Sherman: "Many and many a person in Georgia asked me why we did not go to South Carolina; and, when I answered that we were en route for that State, the invariable reply was, Well, if you will make those people feel the utmost severities of war, we will pardon you for your desolation of Georgia."

 

REBELS DO THINGS LIKE THAT

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Pubs, as you know, I rarely agree with you.

 

But you are smack on the point in this case.

 

Every bit of the 'anti' airport nonsense is built on two totally FALSE premises.

 

First, and foremost, the entire "Part 139" debacle had NOTHING to do with prospective commercial passenger service in and out of SCF.

The filing for the Part 139 was made at the request of a French aerospace company who had been considering building a large manufacturing facility at SCF on one of the industrial pods. Part 139 is a certification by the FAA that the infrastructure at any airport meets standards of lighting, instrumentation, security, construction techniques, etc. Before the aforementioned company would commit to building a facility at SCF, they wanted independent (FAA) certification that the infrastructure would support their new endeavor. Passenger service would only have been a potential by-product of said certification.

 

Secondly.....Airline executives are not always the sharpest knives in the drawer. But, there's NO logical reason for any one of them to find potential profit in starting service at a small regional airport just 30 miles away from the world's busiest one. Especially not at a single-runway facility with no highway access to speak of. It was NEVER going to happen, despite the wailing of all the idiots who dredged up the stories of poisoning the creeks with jet fuel and crashing planes into elementary schools and crime and all the other bizarre crappola. And some of those idiots are still clinging onto those fantasies.

 

One does not have to be a "special prosecutor" to unearth all the lies and corruption and BS that the 'anti's' have started and spread. The only difference between the Chicken World 4 and the Clintons is that George Soros isn't pulling Pownall and Crowe and Collette's strings. (yet)

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I just want it to be over. It has caused a lot of division and a whole lot of lying and really, really dirty politics.

I agree

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I think a lot of Rebels came out of the woodwork after Sherman left for South Carolina. Sherman said that Rebel Georgians were a hostile people. I think Sherman must have been a good judge of character.

 

When I lived in Paulding county, my lawyer told me that the reason I couldn't use a public street is that it was political. And. Pubby is right about those crooked SOB's.

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I voted today, but unfortunately, I live in Davis' district, so I couldn't vote to re-elect Crowe, Pownall & Collette. however I strongly support these three. Please vote today...Re-elect Pownall, Crowe and Collett.

 

We don't want 737's landing in Paulding County.....

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I voted today, but unfortunately, I live in Davis' district, so I couldn't vote to re-elect Crowe, Pownall & Collette. however I strongly support these three. Please vote today...Re-elect Pownall, Crowe and Collett.

 

We don't want 737's landing in Paulding County.....

 

Thad's widow Melissa Morrison can't vote in the election she no longer lives in Paulding,she did before she and her late husband was ran out of the county by Paulding's commissioners.

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Thad's widow Melissa Morrison can't vote in the election she no longer lives in Paulding,she did before she and her late husband was ran out of the county by Paulding's commissioners.

 

Might want to check your timeline... the current incumbents had nothing to do with that.

 

Surepip's threads are still here and he named names...

 

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I find it absolutely incredible that YOU, of all people, would support any of those 3 incumbents.

 

Says the guy who has aligned himself with Pubby :

 

secret backdoor commercialization scandal

 

failed money pit movie studio

 

toll road fiasco

 

targeting of private citizens by elected officials and their henchmen

 

Shall I go on ? ? ?

 

I have a fantastic memory...

 

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As I mentioned, I don't align myself with either "side" of the airport issue. I have my position and I keep it mostly to myself.

But what concerns me more than anything is that we have conservatives who were once friends and are now political enemies, and other conservatives who are now on the same side of this as pubby is (but I suspect for different reasons).

Now if that doesn't scare you, something is wrong!

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As I mentioned, I don't align myself with either "side" of the airport issue. I have my position and I keep it mostly to myself.

 

But what concerns me more than anything is that we have conservatives who were once friends and are now political enemies, and other conservatives who are now on the same side of this as pubby is (but I suspect for different reasons).

 

Now if that doesn't scare you, something is wrong!

 

So you finally showed your true colors. It's not about the issues, not about what's best the community,it has nothing to do with right and wrong it's about which way you lean and if that's not to the Right then you're wrong.

 

"Independent thinker" my ass.

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Says the guy who has aligned himself with Pubby :

 

secret backdoor commercialization scandal

 

failed money pit movie studio

 

toll road fiasco

 

targeting of private citizens by elected officials and their henchmen

 

Shall I go on ? ? ?

 

I have a fantastic memory...

 

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Please do.

 

You'll not find any comments made by yours truly that advocates any of those topics.

 

As I posted above in this very thread..the TRUTH about the 139 Certification had absolutely nothing to do with passenger airline services. Unfortunately you have been sucked into the hand wringing crowd. This whole myth became a get elected and re-elected scheme.

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Please do.

 

You'll not find any comments made by yours truly that advocates any of those topics.

 

As I posted above in this very thread..the TRUTH about the 139 Certification had absolutely nothing to do with passenger airline services. Unfortunately you have been sucked into the hand wringing crowd. This whole myth became a get elected and re-elected scheme.

 

 

Those issues are not myths... they are the legacy of the past administrations.

 

Those past players are attempting to regain the reigns of power with help from Pubby.

 

I'm all about moving forward.

 

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So you finally showed your true colors. It's not about the issues, not about what's best the community,it has nothing to do with right and wrong it's about which way you lean and if that's not to the Right then you're wrong.

 

"Independent thinker" my ass.

You sure made up a lot of crap that isn't true.

 

All I was stating us that there's something very wrong with a political system that has us this divided and messed up. If you can't see that you're an idiot.

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You sure made up a lot of crap that isn't true.

 

All I was stating us that there's something very wrong with a political system that has us this divided and messed up. If you can't see that you're an idiot.

 

Anyone that wants to see what you wrote can , all this backpedaling on your part doesn't mean squat. Let's be clear you are a partisan republican hack pretending to be something different. Anyone with a brain can see it, the fact that you think you're pulling off this scam makes you the idiot.

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Anyone that wants to see what you wrote can , all this backpedaling on your part doesn't mean squat. Let's be clear you are a partisan republican hack pretending to be something different. Anyone with a brain can see it, the fact that you think you're pulling off this scam makes you the idiot.

Well, that explains why you can't see it.

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Well, interesting night. As mentioned earlier, I align with neither side of the airport issue. I am not opposed to some commercialization, I'd like to the dang place pay for itself. But I do want to see transparency from our government, and we haven't had that in a long time. But frankly, I don't think we have personnel with the expertise to run an airport.

So I went into the voting booth today not knowing who I was going to vote for. I closed my eyes and prayed, and was led to cast my vote for Hart. He is a good man. Yes Cain, I took a Republican ballet. You gotta choose one or the other, and there are no Democrats running that I would want as turd picker upper.

In some ways, I feel that some right things happened today. But perhaps for the wrong reasons. pubby did the very thing he has repeatedly accused Russia of and influenced an election (GOP primary) that he, as a Democrat, was not a part of. Why? It's easier for the other party to win when there isn't an incumbent. Dirty, dirty politics!

My God, what a mess! Old conservative friends who hve become mortal enemies. And some solid conservatives aligned with Socialist Democrats. Sickening!

So moving forward, I hope everyone who reads this crap hole understands what happened here and uses their heads when they vote in the general election. The Socialists are rejoicing tonight, and they will try and take over our county.

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Well, interesting night. As mentioned earlier, I align with neither side of the airport issue. I am not opposed to some commercialization, I'd like to the dang place pay for itself. But I do want to see transparency from our government, and we haven't had that in a long time. But frankly, I don't think we have personnel with the expertise to run an airport.

 

So I went into the voting booth today not knowing who I was going to vote for. I closed my eyes and prayed, and was led to cast my vote for Hart. He is my neighbor and a good man. Yes Cain, I took a Republican ballet. You gotta choose one or the other, and there are no Democrats running that I would want as turd picker upper.

 

In some ways, I feel that some right things happened today. But perhaps for the wrong reasons. pubby did the very thing he has repeatedly accused Russia of and influenced an election (GOP primary) that he, as a Democrat, was not a part of. Why? It's easier for the other party to win when there isn't an incumbent. Dirty, dirty politics!

 

My God, what a mess! Old conservative friends who hve become mortal enemies. And some solid conservatives aligned with Socialist Democrats. Sickening!

 

So moving forward, I hope everyone who reads this crap hole understands what happened here and uses their heads when they vote in the general election. The Socialists are rejoicing tonight, and they will try and take over our county.

 

 

 

The attitude you have to living in a one-party system is consistent with totalitarianism meaning you are a totalitarian. I know it is a new word for you but you're quite familiar with it. Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Mao, Kim, the Shah of Iran, Marcos, Castro, etc. etc. are all totalitarians who embrace one-party rule.

 

What my little run in 2014 taught me is that in one-party places, the one-party power often doesn't care who runs but if they do, they choose the candidate who opposes them.

 

Let me also say that your hatred for democrats is fully on show. And while I can understand distrust and concerns about foreigners and foreign powers, your comparing a person whose ancestors fought in the Revolutionary war and who is a distant cousin not only to Robert E. Lee and George S. Patton but Helen Keller to foreigners because of his allegiance to the political party FDR, Harry Truman, Jack Kennedy and, yes, Barack Obama is evidence of a sickness.

 

Said differently, you're not a Republican, my mother was a Republican. With your attitudes, you're a trucking nazi totalitarian.

 

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The attitude you have to living in a one-party system is consistent with totalitarianism meaning you are a totalitarian. I know it is a new word for you but you're quite familiar with it. Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Mao, Kim, the Shah of Iran, Marcos, Castro, etc. etc. are all totalitarians who embrace one-party rule.

 

What my little run in 2014 taught me is that in one-party places, the one-party power often doesn't care who runs but if they do, they choose the candidate who opposes them.

 

Let me also say that your hatred for democrats is fully on show. And while I can understand distrust and concerns about foreigners and foreign powers, your comparing a person whose ancestors fought in the Revolutionary war and who is a distant cousin not only to Robert E. Lee and George S. Patton but Helen Keller to foreigners because of his allegiance to the political party FDR, Harry Truman, Jack Kennedy and, yes, Barack Obama is evidence of a sickness.

 

Said differently, you're not a Republican, my mother was a Republican. With your attitudes, you're a trucking nazi totalitarian.

 

pubby

He states how bad it is the Democratic party has gone to the left supporting socialism and you accuse him of being the likes of historical dictators? Once again you demonstrate how much of a hypocrite you are, as you do the same thing with the GOP that GD does with the DNC. You also prove once again that you hold those who disagree with you to a much higher standard than you do yourself and those who agree with you.

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The attitude you have to living in a one-party system is consistent with totalitarianism meaning you are a totalitarian. I know it is a new word for you but you're quite familiar with it. Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Mao, Kim, the Shah of Iran, Marcos, Castro, etc. etc. are all totalitarians who embrace one-party rule.

 

What my little run in 2014 taught me is that in one-party places, the one-party power often doesn't care who runs but if they do, they choose the candidate who opposes them.

 

Let me also say that your hatred for democrats is fully on show. And while I can understand distrust and concerns about foreigners and foreign powers, your comparing a person whose ancestors fought in the Revolutionary war and who is a distant cousin not only to Robert E. Lee and George S. Patton but Helen Keller to foreigners because of his allegiance to the political party FDR, Harry Truman, Jack Kennedy and, yes, Barack Obama is evidence of a sickness.

 

Said differently, you're not a Republican, my mother was a Republican. With your attitudes, you're a trucking nazi totalitarian.

 

pubby

 

 

Nice quote... looks like your candidates have a big ugly anchor around their necks.

 

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The attitude you have to living in a one-party system is consistent with totalitarianism meaning you are a totalitarian. I know it is a new word for you but you're quite familiar with it. Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Mao, Kim, the Shah of Iran, Marcos, Castro, etc. etc. are all totalitarians who embrace one-party rule.

 

What my little run in 2014 taught me is that in one-party places, the one-party power often doesn't care who runs but if they do, they choose the candidate who opposes them.

 

Let me also say that your hatred for democrats is fully on show. And while I can understand distrust and concerns about foreigners and foreign powers, your comparing a person whose ancestors fought in the Revolutionary war and who is a distant cousin not only to Robert E. Lee and George S. Patton but Helen Keller to foreigners because of his allegiance to the political party FDR, Harry Truman, Jack Kennedy and, yes, Barack Obama is evidence of a sickness.

 

Said differently, you're not a Republican, my mother was a Republican. With your attitudes, you're a trucking nazi totalitarian.

 

pubby

pubby

 

Please stop being a total liar. Your spin is beyond ridiculous and it's one of many reasons you have zero respect and credibility left in this county. The fact that you can't debate someone on their actual positions and have to resort to telling lies about them only shows how weak and pathetic you are. You should have been embarrassed enough by your own run at office to know how unpopular you are.

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He states how bad it is the Democratic party has gone to the left supporting socialism and you accuse him of being the likes of historical dictators? Once again you demonstrate how much of a hypocrite you are, as you do the same thing with the GOP that GD does with the DNC. You also prove once again that you hold those who disagree with you to a much higher standard than you do yourself and those who agree with you.

Yep. I would actually prefer there to be NO parties. Political parties are now nothing but organized crime. As bad as the GOP is, the Democrats are much worse still. The Democratic Party is no longer the home of honorable people like Sam Nunn; they are now full on Socialists with a mob mentality. And pubby used that mob mentality with his dirty 527 politics in this election.

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Like I said, my mother was a Republican ... hell, she was on the county committee when I was growing up ... I know and love Republicans. That said, I hate nazi's, no matter what label they claim.

 

I grew up in the south and, notably, after about 120 years of one-party rule, the southern democrats were a pretty diverse group of folks who were by the end of that reign as the single party, were inclusive in their approach to government.

 

The Republicans, who used to stand for the two party system, argued for it in the 60's 70's and 80's finally began to get in the 90's and the 00's ... but with absurdities like RINO, and party purges became a narrow club of insiders that protect each other's right to feed at the public trough. To a somewhat lesser degree this was the nature of the democrats but I have to say that overall, the democrats earned their money. Lines were shorter and times were better; particularly in state government under democrats... they had been improving frankly, from about the time the Republican party began organizing and got quite good by the time they were kicked out by a bunch of Republicans who really just wanted to get the benefits office holders had in the 50s and 60s ... you know like the way things were in Phoenix City AL.

 

I mean the first county-wide elected Republican in Paulding - Perry Grogan as sheriff - was the epitome of self serving perv who liked being 'above the law.'

 

When you think public service as an honorable undertaking I think of Thurgood Marshall, John Lewis, Bobby Kennedy, Harry Truman, Jack Kennedy, Hubert Humphry, George McGovern, etc. Who on the Republican side has done anything other than denigrate and trivialize public service on the Republican side. Maybe the Bush's, Jack Kemp, Bob Dole, John McCain ... but the list is pretty paltry and short.

 

Instead, we get folks like Scott Pruitt who tears up regulations so corporate interests can poison the public as they externalize their costs and pocket the profits. You may not say much about Roy Barnes but he was kicked from office because he saw the immorality of putting a symbol that is used by racists on the flag while seeking to corral and punish those who were predatory lenders charging usurious interest rates that amount to legally sanctioned theft.

 

Is democracy and democratic institutions perfect? No. Winston Churchill said, in fact and in all seriousness, they were the worst form of government imaginable ...except for ALL the others.

 

Ultimately, we get the government we deserve and all I can say is that Paulding voters chose better last night. What we had was atrocious and hopefully, when the runoff happens, we'll have ended the absurdity that outside money fostered upon us four years ago.

 

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