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A new study shows that Latinos are the largest single minority on our college campuses.

 

And yet, we don't begin teaching Spanish in kindergarten. We are short changing our children.

 

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"In the nation's public schools, Hispanics also reached new milestones. For the first time, one-in-four (24.7%) public elementary school students were Hispanic, following similar milestones reached recently by Hispanics among public kindergarten students (in 2007) and public nursery school students (in 2006). Among all pre-K through 12thgrade public school students, a record 23.9% were Hispanic in 2011.

 

"The new milestones reflect a number of continuing upward trends. Between 1972 and 2011, the Latino share of 18- to 24-year-old college students steadily grew—rising from 2.9% to 16.5%. During the same period, among all public school students, the Latino share grew from 6.0% to 23.9%. In both cases, rapid Latino population growth has played a role in driving Latino student enrollment gains over the past four decades."

 

 

 

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Why can't they learn English since we didn't re-locate.

If I was re-locating to another country, I would be prepared to speak their language. I would not want to be "in the dark" so to speak. We live in the U.S.A and not south of the border.

Total and complete bullcheeze.     Wonder why? In general, the wealthier the parents, the 'better' the community they live, and the more money is dedicated to education, in which better, more qu

Actually, my youngest was learning Spanish from K-4th in Marietta City Schools. Then we moved here. I thought it was great to learn another language. But my personal opinion is that if you go to all the trouble to move to another country then YOU need to learn the language. YOU need to assimilate, YOU need to adapt. If you can't do that then YOU need to stay in your own country. If you want something new and better, then welcome! Welcome to the US of A! if you do it legally. If you can't be bothered with following the rules that the rest of us have to follow then truck off and stay where you are.

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This is an English speaking country, why should the nation accommodate those that are too lazy to learn English, and why should children be forced to accommodate those that have parents that speak Spanish. If they're in school they are learning English, and that's why there are resources available to those that have English as a second language,

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Actually, my youngest was learning Spanish from K-4th in Marietta City Schools. Then we moved here. I thought it was great to learn another language. But my personal opinion is that if you go to all the trouble to move to another country then YOU need to learn the language. YOU need to assimilate, YOU need to adapt. If you can't do that then YOU need to stay in your own country. If you want something new and better, then welcome! Welcome to the US of A! if you do it legally. If you can't be bothered with following the rules that the rest of us have to follow then truck off and stay where you are.

 

 

The language of the people is determined by the culture. As the Latino culture becomes more prevalent, Spanish will become the language of culture. If our children don't begin learning Spanish as soon as they are in the public schools, we are putting them at a world-wide disadvantage.

 

There is no official language in America because, if there were, there would be no accommodations for any other language. The Founding Fathers knew this and that is why they intentionally chose no official language. My link

 

Let's be realistic. Latinos are here. They will continue to come. The Latino culture is becoming more mainstream here. Sure, it would be perfect if they were to learn English before they get here. But that is not the reality.

 

So let's deal with what we know will be the reality in 2 more generations, namely that America will be a bi-lingual society and the children TODAY that are not learning Spanish will be disadvantaged.

 

This is an English speaking country, why should the nation accommodate those that are too lazy to learn English, and why should children be forced to accommodate those that have parents that speak Spanish. If they're in school they are learning English, and that's why there are resources available to those that have English as a second language,

 

And when Spanish becomes the most prevelant language, why should the nation accommodate those children of today that were too lazy or disadvantaged to learn Spanish?

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The language of the people is determined by the culture. As the Latino culture becomes more prevalent, Spanish will become the language of culture. If our children don't begin learning Spanish as soon as they are in the public schools, we are putting them at a world-wide disadvantage.

 

There is no official language in America because, if there were, there would be no accommodations for any other language. The Founding Fathers knew this and that is why they intentionally chose no official language.

 

Let's be realistic. Latinos are here. They will continue to come. The Latino culture is becoming more mainstream here. Sure, it would be perfect if they were to learn English before they get here. But that is not the reality.

 

So let's deal with what we know will be the reality in 2 more generations, namely that America will be a bi-lingual society and the children TODAY that are not learning Spanish will be disadvantaged.

 

 

 

And when Spanish becomes the most prevelant language, why should the nation accommodate those children of today that were too lazy or disadvantaged to learn Spanish?

 

Yes, and this is the result of the pussification of this country. When the leadership of the US finally decide to be true leaders and not politically correct, whiny assed jackasses who have no problem with running this country into the ground, then maybe America stands a chance at surviving.

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Yes, and this is the result of the pussification of this country. When the leadership of the US finally decide to be true leaders and not politically correct, whiny assed jackasses who have no problem with running this country into the ground, then maybe America stands a chance at surviving.

 

Well, then blame the Founding Fathers who in 1780 rejected the idea. My link

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And when Spanish becomes the most prevelant language, why should the nation accommodate those children of today that were too lazy or disadvantaged to learn Spanish?

 

Because the nation lets itself get bullied into being politically correct by the lazy, instead of saying if you want to be a part of the nation then you must learn certain skills one of which is to be able to communicate with those that have been here much longer than you. But no, the nation has let itself become one led by the lazy and the ones that feel that others have to accommodate them. Do you have any idea how annoying it is to have only Spanish speaking people need an interpreter in stores, banks, etc.? Especially when they have been here for more than a year or so and at times closer to 10-12 years and longer?

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If I was re-locating to another country, I would be prepared to speak their language. I would not want to be "in the dark" so to speak.

We live in the U.S.A and not south of the border.

 

This is the key point. Whether or not one learns Spanish is optional. However, every immigrant should be required to learn and speak our language, which is ENGLISH! Oh, and all immigrants must follow the immigration laws and be here legally.

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This is the key point. Whether or not one learns Spanish is optional. However, every immigrant should be required to learn and speak our language, which is ENGLISH! Oh, and all immigrants must follow the immigration laws and be here legally.

 

 

Sorry PSD, this logic does not follow the Socialist or ZC's way of thinking at all..

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Children should be exposed to different cultures and taught foreign language at a young age. As a country, we have encouraged free market capitalism in a global economy. Our ability to succeed in that economy is dependent upon our ability to understand and communicate with others, whether they speak English or another language, whether it is Spanish, Chinese or French. We cannot assume that the rest of the world just needs to learn English. Since the largest minority in America is Latino, it certainly makes sense that Spanish be one of or the primary secondary language our children learn.

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Children should be exposed to different cultures and taught foreign language at a young age. As a country, we have encouraged free market capitalism in a global economy. Our ability to succeed in that economy is dependent upon our ability to understand and communicate with others, whether they speak English or another language, whether it is Spanish, Chinese or French. We cannot assume that the rest of the world just needs to learn English. Since the largest minority in America is Latino, it certainly makes sense that Spanish be one of or the primary secondary language our children learn.

Bingo, we have a winner!

 

I don't see English losing out to Spanish as our accepted language, and certainly immigrants should indeed learn to speak English, as most do who have had a decent education in their native country.

 

My business friends and associates from South & Central America, as well as Western Europe have indeed learned English, and most have learned it well within their educational system. Hence, they generally have their American business counterparts at a disadvantage because they speak both. The Brasilians are amazing as most of them speak Portuguese, Spanish, English, and if their families were immigrants from a different country, they speak that language as well.

 

Here, we barely teach proper English, let alone fluency in other languages. I find it amusing we still insist on teaching Castillian Spanish instead of the typical dialects spoken on this side of the Atlantic. Same as teaching Oxford English with their extra vowels added in.

 

We spent the money to send our kids to an intensive language school in Cuernavaca Mexico every summer for 5-6 weeks starting when they were 14. Daughter ended up marrying a young man from Mexico and her Spanish has no American accent. Those from other Latin countries are blown away when they find out she is actually a gringa.

 

South and Central America will continue to be the single largest market for American goods and services over the next generation or more. To be ignorant of their language and culture is foolish. They can choose to buy from Europe instead of us, and many of the Latin countries do buy a large amount of their goods from the EEC.

 

And for those who tend to forget::

Florida was a Spanish colony, settled long before the Puritans arrived at Plymouth, and recognized as such until we kind of took it for our well into the 19th century.

 

Texas, Oklahoma, and all points west to California and the Pacific Ocean were part of Mexico, and under Spanish and then Mexican rule until Mr Austin and Mr Houston, with a benevolent blessing from Washington DC chose to annex it for themselves as Tejas/Texas. Yes, we did eventually end up PAYING Mexico for some of those territories, but in all honesty we chose to just take the land, and the people and made them part of the USA just because we could.

 

I guess those we are dealing with assimilating into the USA now, the Spanish/Mexican descendants of the original settlers of the South, west of the Mississippi, are getting the last laugh.drinks.gif

 

 

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Children should be exposed to different cultures and taught foreign language at a young age. As a country, we have encouraged free market capitalism in a global economy. Our ability to succeed in that economy is dependent upon our ability to understand and communicate with others, whether they speak English or another language, whether it is Spanish, Chinese or French. We cannot assume that the rest of the world just needs to learn English. Since the largest minority in America is Latino, it certainly makes sense that Spanish be one of or the primary secondary language our children learn.

Stop it. The Tea Party doesn't want logic.

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Actually, Adams' proposal of a national academy was to refine, correct and improve the English language.

That's exactly the point. The Founders wanted the evolving culture to be the language of the majority, not an institutional decision as to what our how language should be used. By not having an official language, we don't, in essence, discourage other minority languages.

 

But you're very, very , VERY wrong if you believe Adams' proposal was to simply improve the English language. A history major would know better than that. It was an attempt to make English the official language, just like many in that day wanted. However, they never voted to do it and if they felt it was necessary, they would have.

 

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Well, then blame the Founding Fathers who in 1780 rejected the idea. My link

 

 

You apparently didn't read your own link.

 

It said NOTHING about the founding fathers rejecting the idea.

 

The article simply said the ACLU published a paper that said, "an effort by John Adams, in 1780, to establish an official academy devoted to English, a move which was rejected at the time as undemocratic."

 

The ACLU published a paper and said that.. The founding fathers didn't say it.

The ACLU made up propeganda for their agenda, just like normal.

It doesn't say who rejected it... it says it was rejected.

 

 

John Adams tried to get the academy going.

 

John Jay said, "“With equal pleasure I have as often taken notice, that Providence has been pleased to give this one connected country, to one united people; a people descended from the same ancestors, speaking the same language….”

 

 

The fact is that 92% of the people, at the time of Constitutional Convention, spoke English as a first language

and the founding fathers didn't deem it necessary or conceive of the idea of that official language would be needed.

 

The fact is that 28 states have adopted English as an official language, as well as 4 of the US territories...

Even the territory of Puerto Rico has adopted English as it's official language.

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I don't agree that we should change our language or our culture because of mass immigrations to our country.

We did not do it during mass immigrations from the Irish well over a million immigrants and the estimated 1/2 million from Europe during and after the second world war.

Reading history our attitudes are no different now towards Latino immigrants than they were back then.

America is about assimilating to a free culture, it is not just the language it is the freedoms and rights that come with being an American.

It is still a privilege to immigrate here not a right, we don't accommodate your language,religion or traditions, you become an American not the other way around.

 

If you want to hear your language, have your traditions and religion observed stay at home because what makes America great is our culture and our freedom. Forcing Americans to accommodate immigrants is UN-American. We don't force immigrants to observe any of our holidays or traditions, they are free to do so, but not forced.

 

If Americans want to learn the language to communicate with Spanish speaking people fine, mandatory no way, not ever.

Are we now marketing our country to Latino's to immigrate here by making sure Americans speak the language? I mean really think about it, why are we even considering this?

We have always taken in Immigrants, it is what makes this nation great. People come here for the freedom, not for any other reason, certainly not that if they come we will force our young people to learn their language.

 

Quite honestly it makes you wonder about our attitude towards illegal immigration when we force our children to learn the language, we are accommodating, again why?

We are giving amnesty instead of legalizing them and following them through the system.

Why are we treating this any different than we have immigration in the past?

There is something very wrong with what is happening in this country as it pertains to Hispanics, quite honestly it doesn't make sense. Our borders are open, but then again they are not. We respect Mexico as a sovereign country but just beyond our boarders life is so horrible for these people they risk their lives to come here.

Something is very wrong.

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Bingo, we have a winner!

 

I don't see English losing out to Spanish as our accepted language, and certainly immigrants should indeed learn to speak English, as most do who have had a decent education in their native country.

 

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Visit S. Fl or S. CA and tell me what you hear.

Heck, just drive around certain parts of Metro ATL and look at the signs.

 

I now have to press 1 if I want English, or choose on English on my ATM and many other examples.

My issue isn't that I have to take the time to press 1.

My issue is that this says to me, that those who are immigrating are not trying to assimilate with the exisiting culture.

In the past when immigrants came to the US they tried to assimilate as quickly as possible and they wanted to be a part of the US culture.

This may not have happened with the 1st generation, but the 1st generation made sure that the 2nd generation did assimilate.

Now the immigrants, for a large part, do not wish to assimilate and many make no bones about it.

Heck, even the Latino comedians state it up front, we are taking over.

 

Like the Roman Empire, the US will be undone by those who we welcomed into our country.

Rome let you keep your culture, as long as you paid your taxes and did not try and over throw the goverment, them one day there were more "of them" than Romans and down it came. (cliff note version)

 

Bottom line to me is, you want to make the US your home and you come here legally, then welcome, glad to have you.

But become Americans, don't try and make us your home country.

Teddy Roosevelt, around 1900, made a great speach against Americans of German descent using the term German-American, because as he said it was decisive and as Americans we needed no other identification

Oh well, it doesn't really matter because as former member said, in 20 years or so..... never mind my blood pressure is getting way to high.

200-250 or so years, it was a great run while it lasted.

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Bingo, we have a winner!

 

I don't see English losing out to Spanish as our accepted language, and certainly immigrants should indeed learn to speak English, as most do who have had a decent education in their native country.

 

My business friends and associates from South & Central America, as well as Western Europe have indeed learned English, and most have learned it well within their educational system. Hence, they generally have their American business counterparts at a disadvantage because they speak both. The Brasilians are amazing as most of them speak Portuguese, Spanish, English, and if their families were immigrants from a different country, they speak that language as well.

 

Here, we barely teach proper English, let alone fluency in other languages. I find it amusing we still insist on teaching Castillian Spanish instead of the typical dialects spoken on this side of the Atlantic. Same as teaching Oxford English with their extra vowels added in.

 

We spent the money to send our kids to an intensive language school in Cuernavaca Mexico every summer for 5-6 weeks starting when they were 14. Daughter ended up marrying a young man from Mexico and her Spanish has no American accent. Those from other Latin countries are blown away when they find out she is actually a gringa.

 

South and Central America will continue to be the single largest market for American goods and services over the next generation or more. To be ignorant of their language and culture is foolish. They can choose to buy from Europe instead of us, and many of the Latin countries do buy a large amount of their goods from the EEC.

 

And for those who tend to forget::

Florida was a Spanish colony, settled long before the Puritans arrived at Plymouth, and recognized as such until we kind of took it for our well into the 19th century.

 

Texas, Oklahoma, and all points west to California and the Pacific Ocean were part of Mexico, and under Spanish and then Mexican rule until Mr Austin and Mr Houston, with a benevolent blessing from Washington DC chose to annex it for themselves as Tejas/Texas. Yes, we did eventually end up PAYING Mexico for some of those territories, but in all honesty we chose to just take the land, and the people and made them part of the USA just because we could.

 

I guess those we are dealing with assimilating into the USA now, the Spanish/Mexican descendants of the original settlers of the South, west of the Mississippi, are getting the last laugh.drinks.gif

 

I thought all high schools offer foreign language and collages also if you want to become fluent.

I have no issue with that, but the idea that it should become mandatory because of large numbers of any immigrants from a certain region are here, just comes across as a very UN-American concept to me.

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I thought all high schools offer foreign language and collages also if you want to become fluent.

I have no issue with that, but the idea that it should become mandatory because of large numbers of any immigrants from a certain region are here, just comes across as a very UN-American concept to me.

 

I did not say mandatory, although that is probably what it would take to make it a reality. And it does not have to Spanish. I wish we had Portuguese available. Dear son started visiting Brasil when he was 11, and learned the basics of Portuguese, but we could not find a school here which offered it. There are more Portuguese speakers south of the Panama Canal than there are Spanish Speakers, and Brasil is one of our major trading partners, and competitors on the world market.

 

All of Latin America and Western Europe do require foreign language courses of their students, and since they take it serious from day 1, their students do learn another language and can speak it well enough to make themselves understood. To be very honest, I have met very, very, very few language students who have graduated from a high school here who can actually carry on a conversation in another language understandable to the listener.

 

Yet for most, it is a skill which will take them much further in life than trigonometry, calculus, physics, etc. Why do we bother so much with math and the sciences while not making students learn another language and the culture behind it ?

 

This is why we chose to make sure both our kids could indeed speak another language well, and Spanish just seemed to be the ideal for what we saw coming over the next generation. For what we paid, it has come back in spades.

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Visit S. Fl or S. CA and tell me what you hear.

Heck, just drive around certain parts of Metro ATL and look at the signs.

 

I now have to press 1 if I want English, or choose on English on my ATM and many other examples.

My issue isn't that I have to take the time to press 1.

My issue is that this says to me, that those who are immigrating are not trying to assimilate with the exisiting culture.

In the past when immigrants came to the US they tried to assimilate as quickly as possible and they wanted to be a part of the US culture.

This may not have happened with the 1st generation, but the 1st generation made sure that the 2nd generation did assimilate.

Now the immigrants, for a large part, do not wish to assimilate and many make no bones about it.

Heck, even the Latino comedians state it up front, we are taking over.

 

Like the Roman Empire, the US will be undone by those who we welcomed into our country.

Rome let you keep your culture, as long as you paid your taxes and did not try and over throw the goverment, them one day there were more "of them" than Romans and down it came. (cliff note version)

 

Bottom line to me is, you want to make the US your home and you come here legally, then welcome, glad to have you.

But become Americans, don't try and make us your home country.

Teddy Roosevelt, around 1900, made a great speach against Americans of German descent using the term German-American, because as he said it was decisive and as Americans we needed no other identification

Oh well, it doesn't really matter because as former member said, in 20 years or so..... never mind my blood pressure is getting way to high.

200-250 or so years, it was a great run while it lasted.

 

Before you throw out the baby with the bath water, remember we have a very, very large number of tourists, as well as businessmen visiting the USA on a daily basis. I appreciate the English signs when I find them in Latin America and Europe, as I am sure many of the latin visitors here are happy to see instructional signs in Spanish. The International Poultry Exposition held at the World Congress Center in Atlanta the end of January every year generally has 3000+ Latin visitors in attendance; another 1500 or so who work for the companies with booths at the show, not to mention their wifes and children who come with them and then spend a week at Disneyworld.

 

And that is a great deal of money going into our local economy.

 

Again, I want all immigrants, legal, and to be assimilated into American culture and society.

 

But at the same time, if our children are to be competitive on the world market we need to step up and provide them the educational tools to be able to.

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Before you throw out the baby with the bath water, remember we have a very, very large number of tourists, as well as businessmen visiting the USA on a daily basis. I appreciate the English signs when I find them in Latin America and Europe, as I am sure many of the latin visitors here are happy to see instructional signs in Spanish. The International Poultry Exposition held at the World Congress Center in Atlanta the end of January every year generally has 3000+ Latin visitors in attendance; another 1500 or so who work for the companies with booths at the show, not to mention their wifes and children who come with them and then spend a week at Disneyworld.

 

And that is a great deal of money going into our local economy.

 

Again, I want all immigrants, legal, and to be assimilated into American culture and society.

 

But at the same time, if our children are to be competitive on the world market we need to step up and provide them the educational tools to be able to.

 

I appreciate it when I see a sign in English in our country.

Do you remember the uproar when they put forth a bill to make it a law that your sign had to also be English, in addition to whatever language you had on it.

Oh, that was racist and unfair.

I have no problem if you wish your sign to have 20 languages on it.

But it dang sure should have English listed 1st if you are in the USA.

Many reasons for having English 1st, not the least is that emergancy services need to know where and what things are.

 

I know you have traveled and because of that, I know that you are aware that many countries would love to see the US fall and have no problem trying to help that happen.

 

All that being said, I do not really disagree with the basics of what you say, I just think that we are heading in the wrong direction in the name of "political correctness" when it comes to immigrants, both legal and especially illegal.

 

I have never understood how if you break into my home you stand a good chance of getting shot, but if you break into my country we take care of you.

 

Also, (as long as I am ranting) we need to end the practice of issuing citizenship to babies born in the US but who's parents are not citizens.

I personaly know three families who came to the US specifically so their child could be born a US citizen. One now has two kids born here. After the babies were born, back they went.

If you think they are raising these kids as Americans, think again.

 

(sorry, bad headache, making me cranky)

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I appreciate it when I see a sign in English in our country.

Do you remember the uproar when they put forth a bill to make it a law that your sign had to also be English, in addition to whatever language you had on it.

Oh, that was racist and unfair.

I have no problem if you wish your sign to have 20 languages on it.

But it dang sure should have English listed 1st if you are in the USA.

Many reasons for having English 1st, not the least is that emergancy services need to know where and what things are.

 

I know you have traveled and because of that, I know that you are aware that many countries would love to see the US fall and have no problem trying to help that happen.

 

All that being said, I do not really disagree with the basics of what you say, I just think that we are heading in the wrong direction in the name of "political correctness" when it comes to immigrants, both legal and especially illegal.

 

I have never understood how if you break into my home you stand a good chance of getting shot, but if you break into my country we take care of you.

 

Also, (as long as I am ranting) we need to end the practice of issuing citizenship to babies born in the US but who's parents are not citizens.

I personaly know three families who came to the US specifically so their child could be born a US citizen. One now has two kids born here. After the babies were born, back they went.

If you think they are raising these kids as Americans, think again.

 

(sorry, bad headache, making me cranky)

 

You should get out more often.

 

I strongly disagree with your statement bolded above.

 

After 911, I received messages, calls, emails, etc. from friends and associates all over the world, but primarily from Latin America expressing sorrow over the events.

 

Virtually every one of those country's citizens love what the USA stands for and the beacon of light we shine all over the world giving them optimism their home countries may some day be able to reach where the USA has as a country, accomplished.

 

They recognize us as the leading proponnent of democracy and freedom for all of the world and very much appreciate the fact the USA has worked so diligently to promote freedom and democracy for all, everywhere. And many of the previous generation of the foreigners I have known fought along side the American GIs in Italy, France and Germany. This includes Brasil, Argentina, Chile, Mexico and others. They look up to the USA and very much want to make sure we continue to be the world leader for freedom and democracy.

 

I am all for enforcing our immigration laws and by no means in any way do I endorse allowing illegals to have any rights other than to send them home.

 

No problem with rewriting some laws to stop anchor babies, but do it by law. Our forefathers screwed up on that one and I believe it will take a constitutional amendment to change it. But by all means do so.

 

I do NOT endorse individual states each trying to write and enforce their own immigration laws as this is a responsibility of the Federal government, but I do want the Feds to step up to the plate and do so. And as we have already seen, various states with differing immigration statues can and will create more problems than it solves. Stop the local political grandstanding and get Congress off its ass and step up and enforce the existing laws to enforce our immigration policies.

 

My point with pushing our children to learn other languages and cultures is to come to grips with the fact we now live in a global society and marketplace. If the USA is to remain economically competitive in that global marketplace our rising generations of leaders and business people would be much better served if they broadened their horizons and learned about other cultures in more detail and other languages, and not just Spanish.

 

Many of my UK friends speak French, Italian, German, etc. Virtually all of my Latin friends speak English as many speak other languages as well. And I find this to be the norm all over the world.....except here. Yes we "offer" some foreign languages in high school and some in middle school, but not sufficient to the point that the students can actually carry on a simple conversation let alone actually know the language, and I think more emphasis should be put on this in the schools and maybe a little less on higher math and the sciences, and I was a biochemistry major. I also had Latin and enough Spanish to where when I started traveling Latin America I was able to converse, albiet poorly, with my customers.

 

When our kids came along we wanted to make sure they were indeed bilingual, and they are and both use their languages in the careers.

 

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Where does it say that these Latino college students DON'T speak English?

 

It doesn't... just like it doesn't say Latino college students predominately speak Spanish (and I know MANY who don't speak the Espanol).

 

I do agree though that its in our best interest to get our children a leg up in the world by being multi-lingual.

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It doesn't... just like it doesn't say Latino college students predominately speak Spanish (and I know MANY who don't speak the Espanol).

 

I do agree though that its in our best interest to get our children a leg up in the world by being multi-lingual.

 

 

Yep, the way we're going better learn the Quranic Arabic...... :angry:

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Yep, the way we're going better learn the Quranic Arabic...... :angry:

 

Sounds eerily similar to one of the reasons the German language was minimized because the argument was that Germans were Catholic.

 

The Germans were accused by other eighteenth-century Anglos of laziness, illiteracy, clannishness, a reluctance to assimilate, excessive fertility, and Catholicism.

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You apparently didn't read your own link.

 

It said NOTHING about the founding fathers rejecting the idea.

 

The article simply said the ACLU published a paper that said, "an effort by John Adams, in 1780, to establish an official academy devoted to English, a move which was rejected at the time as undemocratic."

 

The ACLU published a paper and said that.. The founding fathers didn't say it.

The ACLU made up propeganda for their agenda, just like normal.

It doesn't say who rejected it... it says it was rejected.

 

 

John Adams tried to get the academy going.

 

John Jay said, ""With equal pleasure I have as often taken notice, that Providence has been pleased to give this one connected country, to one united people; a people descended from the same ancestors, speaking the same language…."

 

 

The fact is that 92% of the people, at the time of Constitutional Convention, spoke English as a first language

and the founding fathers didn't deem it necessary or conceive of the idea of that official language would be needed.

 

The fact is that 28 states have adopted English as an official language, as well as 4 of the US territories...

Even the territory of Puerto Rico has adopted English as it's official language.

 

I can see you didn't have more than a few introductory history courses and no Constitutional thought courses.

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Sounds eerily similar to one of the reasons the German language was minimized because the argument was that Germans were Catholic.

 

My link

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can see you didn't have more than a few introductory history courses and no Constitutional thought courses.

 

Yeah, and once again, I see you stating just crap...without anything to back it up.

 

Only you would post something from the ACLU publications and try to pass it off as fact.

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Yeah, and once again, I see you stating just crap...without anything to back it up.

 

Only you would post something from the ACLU publications and try to pass it off as fact.

 

I'm gonna hold you're feet to the fire. Would you please show the post where I linked to an ACLU publication? Please? Pretty please? Here's a hint: you won't find where I linked to an ACLU publication. I linked to an article that summarized what an ACLU publication had stated but that was just one part of the article's content and it is factually correct.

 

Of course, you can try these if you like.

 

My link

 

My link 2

 

The point is that if the Founders wanted to establish a national language, they would have done so. They did not. They didn't pass Adams' proposal to do that.

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You should get out more often.

 

 

All year long I travel GA, SC, NC, AL, MS, KY, TN and occasionally IN & VA.

When I was with another company, I would go to Miami several times a year as we had our warehouse and offices there. I also traveled N FL and LA with that company.

I get out way to much.

 

Drive down Buford Hwy sometime.

Thanks, the head is better. (at least the headache is)

 

See ya Sat. :)

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I'm gonna hold you're feet to the fire. Would you please show the post where I linked to an ACLU publication? Please? Pretty please? Here's a hint: you won't find where I linked to an ACLU publication. I linked to an article that summarized what an ACLU publication had stated but that was just one part of the article's content and it is factually correct.

 

Of course, you can try these if you like.

 

My link

 

My link 2

 

The point is that if the Founders wanted to establish a national language, they would have done so. They did not. They didn't pass Adams' proposal to do that.

 

You're right, I won't find it. For one thing, I didn't say you linked anything to the ACLU publication.

I said you posted something that came from and based around an ACLU publication.

 

Secondly, your links prove exactly what I said.

The "founding fathers" were never mentioned in either of the three articles, by "founding fathers" or by name.

 

YOU said the Founding Fathers rejected the idea. The idea was rejected... but not specifically by the founding fathers.

 

You lose.

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