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The SF Board of Supervisors voted earlier to ban kids toys with any food purchase if the meal doesn't meet certain nutritional standards. The city says it is trying to promote healthy eating and is fighting childhood obesity. Of course, McD's is disappointed.

 

The new ordinance says that no toys can be given unless the meal is less than 600 calories, contain fruits and vegetables, and include beverages without excessive fat or sugar.

 

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I remember when Ralph Nader finally got the government to force seat belts and less metal inside the car to make it safer during crashes. People were really upset about that Big Brother mentality.

 

I remember when the government finally forced tobacco companies to put warning labels on cig packages and banned the advertising of tobacco on TV. People were really upset about that Big Brother mentality.

 

 

I remember when the government required food labels so people could see exactly what it was they were buying. People were really upset about that Big Brother mentality.

 

Maybe this is just another one of those things we will eventually view as a good thing. Maybe we won't. I think that is a local issue for San Franciso though because they do have the right to determine those sort of things for themselves, like states can do with some things. Either way, we do have a problem with childhood obesity and this may be just one small step but it is a step.

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I remember when Ralph Nader finally got the government to force seat belts and less metal inside the car to make it safer during crashes. People were really upset about that Big Brother mentality.

 

I remember when the government finally forced tobacco companies to put warning labels on cig packages and banned the advertising of tobacco on TV. People were really upset about that Big Brother mentality.

 

 

I remember when the government required food labels so people could see exactly what it was they were buying. People were really upset about that Big Brother mentality.

 

Maybe this is just another one of those things we will eventually view as a good thing. Maybe we won't. I think that is a local issue for San Franciso though because they do have the right to determine those sort of things for themselves, like states can do with some things. Either way, we do have a problem with childhood obesity and this may be just one small step but it is a step.

shame on our government for caring about the health of our children.

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There is a problem with childhood obesity, but it isn't McDonalds' fault. It's parents' fault for letting their kids be inactive and play video games all day.

 

Personal responsibilty, folks. Personal responsibility.

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There is a problem with childhood obesity, but it isn't McDonalds' fault. It's parents' fault for letting their kids be inactive and play video games all day.

 

Personal responsibilty, folks. Personal responsibility.

 

 

Thank you!

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I remember when Ralph Nader finally got the government to force seat belts and less metal inside the car to make it safer during crashes. People were really upset about that Big Brother mentality.

 

I remember when the government finally forced tobacco companies to put warning labels on cig packages and banned the advertising of tobacco on TV. People were really upset about that Big Brother mentality.

 

 

I remember when the government required food labels so people could see exactly what it was they were buying. People were really upset about that Big Brother mentality.

 

Maybe this is just another one of those things we will eventually view as a good thing. Maybe we won't. I think that is a local issue for San Franciso though because they do have the right to determine those sort of things for themselves, like states can do with some things. Either way, we do have a problem with childhood obesity and this may be just one small step but it is a step.

 

This is a classic example of the government stepping in to make decisions for the populace, thereby making them more dependent on the government.

 

What's behind this? Toys were initially put into kids' meals to market them to the children. Their thinking is that children will pressure parents into buying the meals to get a toy.

 

In my family, my child can beg all he wants. If he's had too much junk food, my reply to his request is "No." It's a concept many parents need to learn. The fact that children are deciding for themselves what they want to eat (AND THAT PARENTS ARE ALLOWING THEM TO MAKE THE DECISIONS!!!) is beyond appalling to me.

 

If the "powers that be" want to fight childhood obesity, why don't they try this novel concept....REWARD parents whose children are healthy with....oh, I don't know....LOWER HEALTH INSURANCE PREMIUMS!

 

Now there's a concept I can get behind. Good and responsible behavior is rewarded with a benefit. Kind of like I reward my son with a Happy Meal now and again.

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McDonalds should leave the city and put new stores outside the limits. Let the lost tax revenue be a message to the city for other corporations to do the same. This socialism these idiots in SF are imposing is what the Obama administration loves. Can't imagine anyone true American who would think this is something good for us.

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McDonalds should leave the city and put new stores outside the limits. Let the lost tax revenue be a message to the city for other corporations to do the same. This socialism these idiots in SF are imposing is what the Obama administration loves. Can't imagine anyone true American who would think this is something good for us.

So anyone who disagrees with you on this is a socialist and not a true American?

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I remember when Ralph Nader finally got the government to force seat belts and less metal inside the car to make it safer during crashes. People were really upset about that Big Brother mentality.

 

I remember when the government finally forced tobacco companies to put warning labels on cig packages and banned the advertising of tobacco on TV. People were really upset about that Big Brother mentality.

 

 

I remember when the government required food labels so people could see exactly what it was they were buying. People were really upset about that Big Brother mentality.

 

Maybe this is just another one of those things we will eventually view as a good thing. Maybe we won't. I think that is a local issue for San Franciso though because they do have the right to determine those sort of things for themselves, like states can do with some things. Either way, we do have a problem with childhood obesity and this may be just one small step but it is a step.

 

The Government forcing seat belts is a good thing - I don't like them forcing people to wear them. They're there. They're an option. Let us choose. Well....those of us who are 18+ and mentally capable of making such decisions.

 

Labels on cigarette packages crack me up. We all know cigarettes cause cancer...don't waste your ink. I am, however, happy that I don't have to answer cigarette questions revolving around commercials that Mini-Me sees even if I am STILL mad they did away with Joe Camel.

 

I don't mind the government making sure we have safe options and the ability to become educated about things. I do have a problem with them taking away our choices.

 

If people are going to choose to be stupid, let them. Natural selection. :mellow:

 

I was pissed when they stopped putting toys in the cereal box.

 

Me, too! :lol:

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The Government forcing seat belts is a good thing - I don't like them forcing people to wear them. They're there. They're an option. Let us choose. Well....those of us who are 18+ and mentally capable of making such decisions.

 

Labels on cigarette packages crack me up. We all know cigarettes cause cancer...don't waste your ink. I am, however, happy that I don't have to answer cigarette questions revolving around commercials that Mini-Me sees even if I am STILL mad they did away with Joe Camel.

 

I don't mind the government making sure we have safe options and the ability to become educated about things. I do have a problem with them taking away our choices.

 

If people are going to choose to be stupid, let them. Natural selection. :mellow:

 

 

 

Me, too! :lol:

That's a good answer. Not sure I agree with all of it but it is a good answer.

 

In this case, the choice is still there but there is no free Shreck figurine.

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So anyone who disagrees with you on this is a socialist and not a true American?

Sunshine, you have a comprehension problem. Socialism destroys America. Gov't intrusion reduces American choices. When gov't takes away our choices, it substitutes it with socialism. They think they know better for me than I do. Wrong. This country was built upon freedom and the individual pursuit of happiness. Programs that hinder this aren't American and those that support those programs aren't seeing the true America.

 

I hope one day you can post good things about this country and start seeing the good in people who have hope. You and your buddy Obama have the same illness. Take it easy sunshine.

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Sunshine, you have a comprehension problem. Socialism destroys America. Gov't intrusion reduces American choices. When gov't takes away our choices, it substitutes it with socialism. They think they know better for me than I do. Wrong. This country was built upon freedom and the individual pursuit of happiness. Programs that hinder this aren't American and those that support those programs aren't seeing the true America.

 

I hope one day you can post good things about this country and start seeing the good in people who have hope. You and your buddy Obama have the same illness. Take it easy sunshine.

Ok. Then I must be missing something because San Francisco didn't take away any choice. So can you explain how that is socialism?

 

And are you saying that anyone who disagrees with you on this is a socialist not a true American?

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Ok. Then I must be missing something because San Francisco didn't take away any choice. So can you explain how that is socialism?

 

And are you saying that anyone who disagrees with you on this is a socialist not a true American?

Anyone who supports socialism is a socialist. Socialists are not true Americans.

 

Have a good night sunshine. Time to give the moon his shot. See you in the morning.

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Ok. Then I must be missing something because San Francisco didn't take away any choice.

 

Just want to state that they did take away the choice of McDonalds to put a toy in their product, and the reason had nothing to do with the *toy* being unsafe.

 

That's pretty screwed up.

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More big gov't bullcheeze although it isn't socialism. If this is socialism there are a lot better and bigger examples (see CAFE standards for the auto industry to start)

 

....oh, and Zoo Nader didn't force the car companies to put seatbelts in cars - they were already there and had been there for years. His idiotic and BS riddled book caused such a stir the gov't felt the need to again interfer and "protect" us from ourselves with more laws mandating their use.

 

As for warning labels on beer, cigs, music, movies and video games no one reads them or cares about them anyway. Tipper Gore got her granny panties in a wad one day and adding them was the only way to get her to shut up so they started up the printers.

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I remember when Ralph Nader finally got the government to force seat belts and less metal inside the car to make it safer during crashes. People were really upset about that Big Brother mentality.

 

I remember when the government finally forced tobacco companies to put warning labels on cig packages and banned the advertising of tobacco on TV. People were really upset about that Big Brother mentality.

 

 

I remember when the government required food labels so people could see exactly what it was they were buying. People were really upset about that Big Brother mentality.

 

Maybe this is just another one of those things we will eventually view as a good thing. Maybe we won't. I think that is a local issue for San Franciso though because they do have the right to determine those sort of things for themselves, like states can do with some things. Either way, we do have a problem with childhood obesity and this may be just one small step but it is a step.

I do not see the honest comparison of a toy in a meal (hamburger, fry, and drink) verses a cigarette or car safety? :huh:

 

When my first son was around 6 I bribed him to do well in school with a trip to what ever burger joint was giving the toy he wanted.

 

For under 2 bucks I could get a kid’s meal with the toy du jour.

 

He got to play in the climbing tower in the playground and eat a hamburger with a sprite. He didn't like french fries, so I ate them while he had his burger and we talked. I enjoyed the time with him, it cost little, and the toy was a reminder to continue to do well.

 

Hamburger 230 caloris, small child’s sprite 110 … Small fries (on my thighs) 230 caloris. Time together priceless :wub:

 

There are places government does not belong ... Mc Donalds and other eating establishment change as consumers change or they go out of business... thus all the options of carrot sticks, apple slices, milk, apple juice that were not avaliable 20 years ago.

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This is very similar to RJ Reynolds being told they were no longer allowed to advertise cigarettes with a cartoon character. Many believed Joe Camel was nothing more than an invitation to children to desire cigarettes, much like the toy in a Happy Meal is an invitation to children to eat unhealthy, fattening food.

 

We can go back and forth all day about the legal aspects of outlawing a marketing campaign, but the fact will still remain that both McDonalds and RJ Reynolds absolutely knew what they were doing with these advertising campaigns. While liberty and freedom is certainly something that I cherish, I personally don't feel that protecting companies in the business of selling poisons is in any way related to protecting freedom and liberty.

 

 

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This is so stupid! Really, you want some 15 year old telling you if you can get a toy for your child. Anyone who really wants the dumb toy is going to get the 600 calorie meal with the toy and a super size fry on the side. We don't need government telling us how to raise our kids. If someone wants to raise a fat kid they are going to do it regardless of a toy in a happy meal.

BTW I have three healthy young adults who ate happy meals about once a week as a Friday night treat. No obesity in this family.

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The SF Board of Supervisors voted earlier to ban kids toys with any food purchase if the meal doesn't meet certain nutritional standards. The city says it is trying to promote healthy eating and is fighting childhood obesity. Of course, McD's is disappointed.

 

The new ordinance says that no toys can be given unless the meal is less than 600 calories, contain fruits and vegetables, and include beverages without excessive fat or sugar.

 

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Then the parents are deciding if the child gets a toy or not..Right now you can get fruit slices or milk with a happymeal. :blink:

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This is going to make parents stop buying kids meals from McDonalds?

 

 

It will just make them get the $1.00 menu :) The only reason I get the Happy Meal if my kids ask is for the toy- At other places it is the $1.00 menu- Way cheaper and my kids do not have a problem with drinking water.

 

win win for us all

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There is a problem with childhood obesity, but it isn't McDonalds' fault. It's parents' fault for letting their kids be inactive and play video games all day.

 

Personal responsibilty, folks. Personal responsibility.

Thank you!!!! If I want to get my kids or grandkids a Happy Meal, with a toy, then thats my right as a customer at McDonalds.

 

Can a local government forbid an establishment from selling a product they have sold for years and years? This is ridiculous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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And they wanna legalize Marijuana. Now tell me, where in the hell are the stoners gonna go get their munch on?

 

They prolly don't have Krystal's out there.

 

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I'm gonna get McDonald's for lunch today now. All this talk about Happy Meals has me craving one. I'll get a cheese burger happy meal with fries, a Dr Pepper and a toy. Yum.

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