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SO, who says you dont pay taxes on this? I do, and I make quite a bit more than what your ASSumptions are. You did however forget not having to pay for child care, eating lunch daily, and starbucks.

what are they going to do to fend for themselves?

 

I'm working PT right now! Starting this week my boss had to put 6 of us on PT. It's not like most of the folks are just dying to stay on UE. I know my dbf has to pay most of his in child support for one child!

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I hope so, but I have an interview tomorrow and it looks good.

 

These are tough times and a lot of people are out of work. I think this has been very helpful to a lot of families.

 

If it wasnt for the awful economy, I would agree with you.

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U.E. is great for those that are eligible, but what about those that were self employed and not eligible? And the point is when does it stop? will there be indefinite extensions?

 

Those are the ones I worry about. I am currently on unemployment and would be up a creek without it, just sayin...

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If they can bail out multibillion dollar corporations, I dont have a problem with the government bailing out the families that are out of work during this time. I am not sure if $330 a week is a bailout, but it does help pay bills.

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Most of my family and close friends is self employed. This time of the year is ALWAYS hard. But they have also saved throughout the year just to make it through the rough patches.

 

I have a good friend who is an auto mechanic. He is always looking for the future. He knows when that he has to save for 'rainy' days.

 

My brother and dad both do tile and marble. They know that you have to save all they can just to survive.

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what are they going to do to fend for themselves?

I'm working PT right now! Starting this week my boss had to put 6 of us on PT. It's not like most of the folks are just dying to stay on UE. I know my dbf has to pay most of his in child support for one child!

No kidding?!?!? Hey, I know...everybody on UE should get a nonexistent job to feed their family and keep a roof over their heads. Sounds like a plan to me. GEEEEEZ! I hope to God that all the people on here who have ever complained about any government benefit never finds themselves in a position of need...it must be nice to have never needed any help or have never lost a job and to know that your job is the most secure one in the world...layoff proof and downsizing proof.

 

I know that all people who are on govt assistance don't deserve to be there, but a lot of them have no choice. Maybe the state agencies should be more careful who they assign benefits to and the people in real need wouldn't be bashed so much.

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I have lost count on the number of times congress has extended U.E. benefits since prezbo has been in office.Exactly when does a person have to "fend" for their self?

The problem with more extensions is it kills motivation to even look for a job. I know people that aren't even looking and won't run out of eligibility for another year.

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The problem with more extensions is it kills motivation to even look for a job. I know people that aren't even looking and won't run out of eligibility for another year.

 

Yeah, because you can really live on $330 a week! That check is a real motivator!

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I agree with Harlee71.

 

I hope the folks who are saying that people aren't looking for jobs and just drawing UE know that the folks drawing UE has to apply for a certain # of jobs a week!

 

I hope you also understand that if you take a job making $10 and work 40 hrs a week you will be making MORE than you will on UE!! I don't care what kind of idiot you are....but $400 is MORE than the freakin $330 - tax that you get from UE.

 

My dbf has been in the workforce for almost 30 years and this is the first time he has EVER drawn UE! I know he is applying at EVERYTHING he can. He even has a degree and would love to have a job with BENEFITS... you see... he can't afford his COBRA from his last employer.

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Unless you are making more on unemployment than you did working a job, how exactly does it kill the motivation to even look for a job? I look all the time. LITERALLY. In December, I applied for no fewer than FOUR tax preparer jobs. I have 15 years experience in this field. The ONLY response I got from any of them was an e-mail asking "are you interested in this job?" Well, DUH! That's the reason I applied! I politely responded that yes I was interested and would like to come in for an interview. Never again heard from them.

 

What kills the motivation for looking for a job is all the rejections and all the hassle of having to apply online and then not having any response. Or worse yet, having experience in something and KNOWING that someone with no experience has been hired.

 

Mmmmmmmmmmmm. Won't run out of eligibility for another year? I thought 26 weeks was the max unless extensions were granted, which thanks to a certain Congressvermine isn't happening.

 

The problem with more extensions is it kills motivation to even look for a job. I know people that aren't even looking and won't run out of eligibility for another year.

 

Son in law would love to have a job offer to accept. He ain't picky.

 

I don't believe in unemployment,there is plenty of jobs. People are too picky,they can work if they accept jobs that they feel is below them!

 

anyone I know???? Tell him I said hello, if it is.

 

 

 

I have a good friend who is an auto mechanic. He is always looking for the future.

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I think if the person has no other sources, and expenses are cut, then an extension could be offered.

 

Cable, cell phones, savings, and the lease on the SUV, etc. would all have to be gone in order to get an extension.

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I don't know what those on unemployment are supposed to do, there are very few jobs!! I am not a fan of government spending but if 0bama cancelled one party that would be enough to pay hundreds, heck maybe even thousands of people for one week. If Pelosi didn't spend thousands on food and booze during her cross country military plane excursions there would be more funds available for those needing it. :)

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Yeah, because you can really live on $330 a week! That check is a real motivator!

Yea, boy!!! My SIL was laid off in Nov of 2008. He owned a home, a car and a motorcycle. He sold his motorcycle to try and keep his house. Lost his house too in April 2009 with that same over sized check.

 

Since he has been unemployed, he has applied for over 200 jobs and has gotten call backs on less than 5 and two of those were temporary. Why would anyone quit UE and work for a company for $7.45 an hour for three weeks?

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Yep, here's the routine:

 

find five jobs a week online for which you qualify

apply for those five jobs, which almost anywhere you have to do online or at a kiosk.

get no response about four jobs.

get 'we have received your application' e-mail from one job.

next week, see those five jobs are no longer available.

find five more jobs for which you qualify.

Start the cycle over.

 

It's even more difficult if you're over 50. You don't even have to put your age or your birthdate on a resume for an employer to determine you're over 50. If you started working in 1976 (like me), you're over 50.

 

 

I hope the folks who are saying that people aren't looking for jobs and just drawing UE know that the folks drawing UE has to apply for a certain # of jobs a week!

 

 

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Yeah, because you can really live on $330 a week! That check is a real motivator!

 

I'm not sure what to do with my $1290 a month!!

 

It will cover my car and insurance, so I can at least live in that.

 

Benefits are intended to give people the means to find work. At minimum, you need to be able to cover bus fares or gas, haircuts, etc. to try and gain employment.

 

I certainly wouldn't consider unemployment a means by which people can sufficiently live. Perhaps people without cars and paid off houses, but for the most part those on unemployment are not using it as a mean to avoid looking for work.

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Yep, here's the routine:

 

find five jobs a week online for which you qualify

apply for those five jobs, which almost anywhere you have to do online or at a kiosk.

get no response about four jobs.

get 'we have received your application' e-mail from one job.

next week, see those five jobs are no longer available.

find five more jobs for which you qualify.

Start the cycle over.

 

It's even more difficult if you're over 50. You don't even have to put your age or your birthdate on a resume for an employer to determine you're over 50. If you started working in 1976 (like me), you're over 50.

Of course, according the latest tips for resume writing you should NOT list employment that far back. Since I started work in 1976 and stayed with that job over 9 years I fought hard against not putting that on my resume but I kept getting told that I should list no more than 20 years of employment (and 20 years was the max). You can always talk about that other experience during the interview if its relevant.

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I agree with Harlee71.

 

I hope the folks who are saying that people aren't looking for jobs and just drawing UE know that the folks drawing UE has to apply for a certain # of jobs a week!

 

I hope you also understand that if you take a job making $10 and work 40 hrs a week you will be making MORE than you will on UE!! I don't care what kind of idiot you are....but $400 is MORE than the freakin $330 - tax that you get from UE.

 

My dbf has been in the workforce for almost 30 years and this is the first time he has EVER drawn UE! I know he is applying at EVERYTHING he can. He even has a degree and would love to have a job with BENEFITS... you see... he can't afford his COBRA from his last employer.

 

$400 is more than $330, but not much more (if any) after Uncle Sam. Plus, you are losing your ability to have the time to look for something else. This gets even more complicated in professional jobs. For instance, I COULD be a secretary. I have sufficient skills, but no one will want me to be a secretary because they know that the first opportunity I get to go back to my profession, I will take.

 

There are TONS of professionals willing to work only to be told that they're overqualified.

 

If you make $50/hour, most people are not going to hire you for even half that...while it's more than UE - it's not in the best interest of a hiring company to hire that far below their requirements.

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You never see me and DGITW agree... But I do agree with her this time.

 

Another thing... DBF has a daughter that he has to pay child support on. Should he take the mom back to court and try to get his child support lowered... Or should he do without (like he does) just to be able to take care of his child! He would live under a freakin bridge to take care of his daughter.

 

$298 wk with taxes taken out...... $750 a month child support.... You do the math and let me know if you can live on that. He's lucky that he does have savings to help him just to be able to survive.

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If I didn't go back 20 years or more, it would look like I'd only had one job my entire life! And how do I list the job qualifications and skills if those other jobs aren't listed.

 

There is one job I had that I stopped listing years ago. I had that job for seven weeks (two of which was my notice).

 

Regardless of what you put on your resume, once they see you face to face they KNOW you're over 50 even if you look young for your age (which I do).

 

I think I'll try leaving off the earlier jobs and see if that makes a difference in the call backs I get.

 

Of course, according the latest tips for resume writing you should NOT list employment that far back. Since I started work in 1976 and stayed with that job over 9 years I fought hard against not putting that on my resume but I kept getting told that I should list no more than 20 years of employment (and 20 years was the max). You can always talk about that other experience during the interview if its relevant.

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You never see me and DGITW agree... But I do agree with her this time.

 

Another thing... DBF has a daughter that he has to pay child support on. Should he take the mom back to court and try to get his child support lowered... Or should he do without (like he does) just to be able to take care of his child! He would live under a freakin bridge to take care of his daughter.

 

$298 wk with taxes taken out...... $750 a month child support.... You do the math and let me know if you can live on that. He's lucky that he does have savings to help him just to be able to survive.

 

Quite honestly, if he hasn't done the new worksheet, he should. $750 isn't really a lot for child support, but he should look at the child's needs, his contribution and the mother's contribution.

 

Doing without is fine...but, so is being able to pay your mortgage so you have a safe place to spend time with your child.

 

I don't know the situation, but if the child is in public school and your DBF has the child 40-50% of the time, it's not costing mom $750 a month to care for the child. Sadly, I've seen many fathers pay through the nose for child support so that mom can pocket the majority. Hopefully mom is sympathetic to his situation and only taking what she absolutely needs for her daughter until dad gets back on his feet.

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I learned years ago that "overqualified" is just another way of saying one of two things. Either you're too old or you're too expensive. Or both.

 

$400 is more than $330, but not much more (if any) after Uncle Sam. Plus, you are losing your ability to have the time to look for something else. This gets even more complicated in professional jobs. For instance, I COULD be a secretary. I have sufficient skills, but no one will want me to be a secretary because they know that the first opportunity I get to go back to my profession, I will take.

 

There are TONS of professionals willing to work only to be told that they're overqualified.

 

If you make $50/hour, most people are not going to hire you for even half that...while it's more than UE - it's not in the best interest of a hiring company to hire that far below their requirements.

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While I can sympathize with those out of work, I think that many times our poor choices in the past come back to haunt us when something unplanned for (like unemployment) hits us.

 

I survived 15 months being unemployed. I had planned well with a lot of savings and I have always lived beneath my means. I had no car payments (and still do not) and worked as a painter (under the table) and did just about anything I could to earn enough to make the mortgage payment and feed the family each month. I am thankful for my gub-ment check of $312/week. That helped a lot. I did benefit from one extension after the Y2K technology decline.

 

Fast forward 8 years and I do not see a lot of hope for many. But, the country, and many people, survived the great depression and I think we will all survive this time in our history.

 

Well, there is a little hope - Obama can print more money and we can "pay" for another benefit extension. Our money supply had doubled in the past 18 months. Do you not recall Econ 101 when too many $s are chasing after too few goods? Inflation will skyrocket within 18 months.

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I learned years ago that "overqualified" is just another way of saying one of two things. Either you're too old or you're too expensive. Or both.

 

Times have changed and now it means just what DGITW said. As an employer we aren't going to hire someone that was an exec. as an admin no matter age or cost because they will bolt first chance they get and that cost US money to hire and train the next person.

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I think if the person has no other sources, and expenses are cut, then an extension could be offered.

 

Cable, cell phones, savings, and the lease on the SUV, etc. would all have to be gone in order to get an extension.

 

I agree with all but that one, assuming they didn't buy the SUV AFTER they lost their job.

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While I can sympathize with those out of work, I think that many times our poor choices in the past come back to haunt us when something unplanned for (like unemployment) hits us.

 

I survived 15 months being unemployed. I had planned well with a lot of savings and I have always lived beneath my means. I had no car payments (and still do not) and worked as a painter (under the table) and did just about anything I could to earn enough to make the mortgage payment and feed the family each month. I am thankful for my gub-ment check of $312/week. That helped a lot. I did benefit from one extension after the Y2K technology decline.

 

Fast forward 8 years and I do not see a lot of hope for many. But, the country, and many people, survived the great depression and I think we will all survive this time in our history.

 

Well, there is a little hope - Obama can print more money and we can "pay" for another benefit extension. Our money supply had doubled in the past 18 months. Do you not recall Econ 101 when too many $s are chasing after too few goods? Inflation will skyrocket within 18 months.

 

So you pissed through all of your savings and committed a crime to survive 15 months of unemployment and you consider this to be preparedness? Am I reading that right?

 

The overall feel of your post is that UE is a cop out, but I wouldn't recommend your path, either. :pardon:

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I don't believe in unemployment,there is plenty of jobs. People are too picky,they can work if they accept jobs that they feel is below them!

Help us out here. Show us where we can find these jobs are where overqualified people will be hired. Who are these employers?

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Not necessarily true. Depends on the employer and what they require in an employee. WE would be fine hiring someone who appears to be overqualified as long as they were qualified to do the job. Our business requires more than an entry level person can generally offer. But our positions would not be minimal wage jobs either. I can see a fast food place not wanting to hire someone who was a corporate president.

 

Times have changed and now it means just what DGITW said. As an employer we aren't going to hire someone that was an exec. as an admin no matter age or cost because they will bolt first chance they get and that cost US money to hire and train the next person.

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Not necessarily true. Depends on the employer and what they require in an employee. WE would be fine hiring someone who appears to be overqualified as long as they were qualified to do the job. Our business requires more than an entry level person can generally offer. But our positions would not be minimal wage jobs either. I can see a fast food place not wanting to hire someone who was a corporate president.

 

Believe what you will.

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AS a business owner, I know what we look for. ;) Having dealt with other business owners for over 15 years, I know what many of them look for. It isn't necessarily a low skill person. Like I said, I can understand a fast food place not wanting to hire a former corporate president but otherwise, having higher skills might be more what the employer is looking for.

 

Believe what you will.

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AS a business owner, I know what we look for. ;) Having dealt with other business owners for over 15 years, I know what many of them look for. It isn't necessarily a low skill person. Like I said, I can understand a fast food place not wanting to hire a former corporate president but otherwise, having higher skills might be more what the employer is looking for.

 

The question is - are you or any of the other business owners hiring?

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AS a business owner, I know what we look for. ;) Having dealt with other business owners for over 15 years, I know what many of them look for. It isn't necessarily a low skill person. Like I said, I can understand a fast food place not wanting to hire a former corporate president but otherwise, having higher skills might be more what the employer is looking for.

 

I'm talking about large corporations. Like the one I hire people for. Like the ones most of us work for. Like the ones that provide most of the corporate jobs. They aren't hiring former VP's to do middle manager work, that is just the way it is.

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what are they going to do to fend for themselves?

 

I'm working PT right now! Starting this week my boss had to put 6 of us on PT. It's not like most of the folks are just dying to stay on UE. I know my dbf has to pay most of his in child support for one child!

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The ex is still making him pay child support?

Seriously?

FIRST thing I did when Dxh lost his job was say 'Lets find you a job, figure out how to keep your apartment, and spend your unemployment on your bills....I'll figure out how to pay for the kid.' I didn't want him to pay me, then lose his place and therefore wind up not being able to have visitation regularly - all boils down to him being able to spend time with her.

He wound up not getting unemployment, lost the apartment, and can't have visitation regularly anyway.

 

I still can't imagine making him pay his $650 a month when he doesn't have a job.

 

 

I don't believe in unemployment,there is plenty of jobs. People are too picky,they can work if they accept jobs that they feel is below them!

Wanna help Dxh find one? He was a manager, and he's 'overqualified' for everything. Been out of work since November, has been on a dozen interviews and has applied everywhere...even McDonald's. At this point, he'll take a fast food job if it'll pay for his car insurance.

 

 

 

 

I'm not sure what to do with my $1290 a month!!

 

It will cover my car and insurance, so I can at least live in that.

 

Benefits are intended to give people the means to find work. At minimum, you need to be able to cover bus fares or gas, haircuts, etc. to try and gain employment.

 

I certainly wouldn't consider unemployment a means by which people can sufficiently live. Perhaps people without cars and paid off houses, but for the most part those on unemployment are not using it as a mean to avoid looking for work.

 

That's what I make in a month. :o Before taxes, insurance, and child care. :blush:

Dxh could have lived off of unemployment, had he been approved for the $330 they were originally offering him. It would have covered rent, car insurance, his heat/electric, and left him enough money for groceries and gas.

 

He sold his car years ago, at a loss, and bought a cheap one - paid in cash and doesn't have payments. I did the same thing two years ago. Sometimes, ya gotta do what ya gotta do.

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