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While it is ridiculous and sad, it sounds like it is a necessity for her. I mean, what will happen if she cannot afford her medications? It sounds like she could die pretty easily...and if the insurance companies are denying her, what other real choice does she have than to be creative? I just wonder what this "husband" of hers will expect from her..........

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because marrying 'for love' is soooo much smarter?

 

whatever. who gives a crap? folk marry for all sorts of bizarre reasons. heatlhcare benefits seems logical to me.

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^5 ding ding ding....we have a WINNAR!

 

Why don't she go back to school get a degree....then get a job that has benefits? I didn't RTA. Or would that be to easy?

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If it's that important, why doesn't she just move to Canada?

Because in Canada you will DIE before receiving their so called benefits. This happened to my Aunt in law when she had breast cancer. They couldn't get her approved to get in often enough for her chemo treatments. Hubby grew up in a small town about 20 miles from the Canadian line and several family members live in Canada. His family knows of many Canadians who come over the line to be treated in the states because of the red tape involved with the "free healthcare" over there. I pray to God we never have that crap in the U.S.

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Would she even be covered with a 'pre-existing' condition? This is sad that in one of the richest countries in the world people can't get the help they need. Unfortunately, health insurance has become a luxury that SOO many cannot afford...it just seems wrong to me.

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I agree (serious lack of medical care for everyone) and their are so many on here that think that we should not endorse Obama and the Congress plan. I just wonder how those that oppose any plan will do when they can't afford their current plan. ??

 

 

 

Would she even be covered with a 'pre-existing' condition? This is sad that in one of the richest countries in the world people can't get the help they need. Unfortunately, health insurance has become a luxury that SOO many cannot afford...it just seems wrong to me.

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I agree (serious lack of medical care for everyone) and their are so many on here that think that we should not endorse Obama and the Congress plan. I just wonder how those that oppose any plan will do when they can't afford their current plan. ??

With my fibromyalgia, insomnia, allergies and other problems my medications ALONE would cost over $1000/month without insurance and this does not count doctor visits, lab testing, etc. or my husbands 2 medications. When he changed jobs over 3 years ago we didn't have insurance with the new company for 3 months. We used COBRA coverage with his previous employer and it was cheaper than just my medications to pay the COBRA charge for insurance coverage at a cost of $880/month.

 

Even with this cost I still oppose the nationwide healthcare plan because of the lack of complete medical care reported in other countries who do have it. My stepmother also opposes it and she has been medically disabled for almost 20 years. Could you imagine waiting until your name is drawn from a list of the town's names just so you could see a doctor for an infection? What happens when nationwide healthcare denies you coverage for a medication that is first line treatment for your diagnosis at a cost of $400/month and you are living on disability for the condition? What if you need a specific treatment quickly or you will DIE and the nationwide healthcare won't allow you to get this treatment in time? These are just some of the stories I have heard first hand from people and this is why so many Canadians and others are coming to America for treatment.

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I agree (serious lack of medical care for everyone) and their are so many on here that think that we should not endorse Obama and the Congress plan. I just wonder how those that oppose any plan will do when they can't afford their current plan. ??

My thoughts exactly. We have been SOOOO fortunate to always have excellent medical coverage through Hubby's work, it makes me sad when I go to the pharmacy to get medicine and it's free or super cheap and there are people with chronic medical problems having to pick and choose and get 4 of these and 6 of these just to make it through the week. That is past wrong to me. I have no answers as to how it should be fixed, but when the government we pay taxes to chooses to fund art exhibits and so many of the other whacky things they give money to, what are we coming to? No good end I'm guessing.

 

This should have been a priority a long time ago and so many people would not be in the dire straights they are in now. And the kicker is, is that we have no other choice than to pay taxes and have no say so as to how it is spent.

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tort reform would help....probably more than anyone could know. It's not perfect either but that would be the greatest way to reduce the cost of healthcare....it's probably the biggest reason that healthcare costs have exploded in recent years. If they could reduce that, more people could afford their own, the government would not have to force anyone to carry coverage. I'm not a big fan of the government forcing anyone to do anything, it should be our choice.

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tort reform would help....probably more than anyone could know. It's not perfect either but that would be the greatest way to reduce the cost of healthcare....it's probably the biggest reason that healthcare costs have exploded in recent years. If they could reduce that, more people could afford their own, the government would not have to force anyone to carry coverage. I'm not a big fan of the government forcing anyone to do anything, it should be our choice.

:good: I agree. But I also think that pharmacuetical compnaies shouldn't be able to charge as much as they do for some prescriptions, especially when they carray a patent for like 20 years so there can't be a generic made.

 

I understand that these companies are in it to make money. I get that. But, I am on medication for ulcerative colitis. It is $420.00 a month with out insurance, $98.00 with. A friend also has UC, but she has Crohn's also; her medication is $798.00 a month without insurance, and I forget how much without.

 

Now, that being said, I think there should be some kind of reform - like tort for one - but certainly not the Obama Care that is on the table right now. That is just a disaster in so many, many ways.

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Because in Canada you will DIE before receiving their so called benefits. This happened to my Aunt in law when she had breast cancer. They couldn't get her approved to get in often enough for her chemo treatments. Hubby grew up in a small town about 20 miles from the Canadian line and several family members live in Canada. His family knows of many Canadians who come over the line to be treated in the states because of the red tape involved with the "free healthcare" over there. I pray to God we never have that crap in the U.S.

 

My friends that live in Canada do not share the above views nor experiences. That is simply not the case across the line, nor all the time. Both of them have serious health challenges, and have two special needs children they have adopted.

 

 

As for the lady in the story, good for her for putting a face, a life, and health challenges onto a hotly debated topic in the US. Who knows? Maybe she'll end up with a great husband, and great health care in the long run. (Who am I to judge her? At least she's being *honest* in her dealings. How many other people marry under less than honest circumstances!?)

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^5 ding ding ding....we have a WINNAR!

 

Why don't she go back to school get a degree....then get a job that has benefits? I didn't RTA. Or would that be to easy?

 

Because that would take years for her to do. It would take her at least 2-4 years depending on what she went to school for. And when her insurance runs out, she will not have her meds. If you research her condition, it is pretty rare. She risks serious infection/death if she does not have her medications. She doesn't have time to go to school, and I don't think anyone can knock her being a stay-at-home mom with no degree for that long. She probably didn't anticipate a divorce, and probably didn't anticipate having a deadly disease.

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tort reform would help....probably more than anyone could know. It's not perfect either but that would be the greatest way to reduce the cost of healthcare....it's probably the biggest reason that healthcare costs have exploded in recent years. If they could reduce that, more people could afford their own, the government would not have to force anyone to carry coverage. I'm not a big fan of the government forcing anyone to do anything, it should be our choice.

Most frivolous law suits are dismissed long before they reach a trial. Very few get through so they account for a minimal amount of health care costs. Of the cases that go to trial, may be 25% or more are won by the plaintiff. Really, who knows someone that has won a frivolous lawsuit and was awarded unjust compensation? I don't recall where but I read that malpractice awards account for 1% of medical costs. A handful of ridiculous cases get publicized by the media and many are fooled into thinking it is common place.

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If it's that important, why doesn't she just move to Canada?

Why should an American have to leave the country to get healthcare? Don't we live in the greatest country in the world?

 

Sooooo....there's hope for you, COWA?

 

:rofl:

Ahhh....jealousy rears its ugly head. :ph34r:

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What about the "sanctity of marriage"? I don't hear any conservatives railing against her for a contingency marriage. That's what it is, you know. Because she will get married and stay married only as long as the guy provides health care coverage for her. He loses his job, he loses his wife, too.

 

Why don't conservatives consider THIS cheapening the institution of marriage? What would their vows sound like? Do you ________ solemnly promise to provide adequate healthcare coverage so long as you both shall live? And do you _____________ solemnly promise to stay married to this desperate man, as long as he can provide that coverage for you?

 

 

 

I now pronounce you -- Co--dependants. You may insure the bride.

 

 

 

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What about the "sanctity of marriage"? I don't hear any conservatives railing against her for a contingency marriage. That's what it is, you know. Because she will get married and stay married only as long as the guy provides health care coverage for her. He loses his job, he loses his wife, too.

 

Why don't conservatives consider THIS cheapening the institution of marriage? What would their vows sound like? Do you ________ solemnly promise to provide adequate healthcare coverage so long as you both shall live? And do you _____________ solemnly promise to stay married to this desperate man, as long as he can provide that coverage for you?

 

 

 

I now pronounce you -- Co--dependants. You may insure the bride.

 

 

Spoken like a true DEMOCROOK....... :fool:

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Ahhh....jealousy rears its ugly head. :ph34r:

 

Speaking of ugly heads! :o This one just wants to marry for luv... :blink:

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What about the "sanctity of marriage"? I don't hear any conservatives railing against her for a contingency marriage. That's what it is, you know. Because she will get married and stay married only as long as the guy provides health care coverage for her. He loses his job, he loses his wife, too.

 

Why don't conservatives consider THIS cheapening the institution of marriage? What would their vows sound like? Do you ________ solemnly promise to provide adequate healthcare coverage so long as you both shall live? And do you _____________ solemnly promise to stay married to this desperate man, as long as he can provide that coverage for you?

 

 

 

I now pronounce you -- Co--dependants. You may insure the bride.

:rofl: :rofl: Look at the negatives cropping up. Seems like you struck a nerve, eh? :lol: :lol: Of course red states have a higher divorce rate than blue states. The kicker is the higher divorce rate is especially true in states with a gay marriage ban!!! :lol:

 

Speaking of ugly heads! :o This one just wants to marry for luv... :blink:

If she weren't so attractive, she'd be a match for Guard Dad.

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:rofl: :rofl:

If she weren't so attractive, she'd be a match for Guard Dad.

 

Who do you think I got the family photo from? :o :rofl:

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What about the "sanctity of marriage"? I don't hear any conservatives railing against her for a contingency marriage. That's what it is, you know. Because she will get married and stay married only as long as the guy provides health care coverage for her. He loses his job, he loses his wife, too.

 

Why don't conservatives consider THIS cheapening the institution of marriage? What would their vows sound like? Do you ________ solemnly promise to provide adequate healthcare coverage so long as you both shall live? And do you _____________ solemnly promise to stay married to this desperate man, as long as he can provide that coverage for you?

 

 

 

I now pronounce you -- Co--dependants. You may insure the bride.

 

It's just my opinion, but this woman has children and wants to live...I don't think the "sanctity" issue should even be on the burner. This is a life or death situation for her, and she has found what she believes to be the solution to her issue. The government isn't helping her...so she has to help herself.

 

The only thing I wish for her is that whoever she ends up marrying, if anyone, has their heart in the right place and is not some psychotic nut. It is hard to imagine any man that would marry her to give her health insurance without another set of motives, but it's possible.

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It's just my opinion, but this woman has children and wants to live...I don't think the "sanctity" issue should even be on the burner. This is a life or death situation for her, and she has found what she believes to be the solution to her issue. The government isn't helping her...so she has to help herself.

 

The only thing I wish for her is that whoever she ends up marrying, if anyone, has their heart in the right place and is not some psychotic nut. It is hard to imagine any man that would marry her to give her health insurance without another set of motives, but it's possible.

 

I agree with you, in part. I think that the matter of "sanctity" is one that an individual should place on his own relationship. A person who wishes to marry another should have that wish respected, even if it is for what we consider to be questionable reasons.

 

However, it's not logical to think that this woman has only two paths to choose. There are other options that don't involve sponging off of someone else. Let's remember that SOMEBODY is paying for her treatment/medicine.

 

Anyone who condones this woman USING the system like this is okay with socialized medicine, because that's what we're talking about. The woman has paid nothing into the system, but because she is in need, it is up to the rest of us to bail her out by paying her way through paying higher rates.

 

Spongeat emptor -- "Let the sponger beware!" That's what I think about the kind of guy she can expect to land.

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So...being a stay at home mom is more important than having health insurance?

 

I think SAHM's are great.... but what would they do if they cant AFFORD to stay home?

 

Oh...and dbf's mom lives in Canada and has for over 40 years...and she will bet to differ with you about the health care in Canada. She loves it and just had her 2nd hip replacement in 1 year.

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What's the difference between public health care and the educational system? From pre-K all the way through the Hope scholarship, a person can receive government assistance for well over 20 years. Throw in health care programs like Peach Kids (0-18 years of age) and Social Security (65+ and exceptions), assistance from the government is possible for approximately 40% of an average lifetime.

 

Consider the education to be an investment, giving people at a minimum the basic life skills to succeed in this world. So, we've made this investment to make people smarter, but yet we're not willing to protect that investment by making sure they are healthy enough to join and remain in the workforce?

 

There are millions of people out of work now without health coverage, and millions more working without coverage. Our country spends billions annually helping other nations without doing what is necessary to secure the investments made in our own citizens. People point to programs like the one in Massachusetts and in foreign lands, and call them failures. The people who have been helped under those programs wouldn't call them failures. If a person can receive preventative or life-saving care, and is returned to the workforce, is this not a positive?

 

One of best things Richard Nixon (yes folks, a Republican!) did was work towards universal health care (as did Teddy Roosevelt). Nixon wasn't successful due to the same type of people banging the drums of socialism. The mistakes of the past shouldn't be repeated; the elitist attitude of the nation will be more destructive than this so-called turn towards 'socialism'.

 

This woman hoping to lure a man to get access to his health coverage is extreme, yet it shows the desperation that many in the nation are facing.

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So...being a stay at home mom is more important than having health insurance?

 

I think SAHM's are great.... but what would they do if they cant AFFORD to stay home?

 

Oh...and dbf's mom lives in Canada and has for over 40 years...and she will bet to differ with you about the health care in Canada. She loves it and just had her 2nd hip replacement in 1 year.

 

It's absolutely not more important. I think it's apples and oranges. But I can't blame her for not having a degree because I am in the same situation. If I got cancer tomorrow and then got divorced, I'd have no way of paying for my treatment. I have no degree as of yet, but it's not that I don't want one. I would ultimately like to become an RN or sonographer, but I can't do either of those right now because I am pregnant. And it will be too hard to do with a new, itty bitty baby and 2 other children and my husband's weird schedule with no family to help us with the kids. I really have no choice but to wait until they are a bit older. Now, is that anyone's worry but mine? No...but just saying that because maybe there is a reason she never got a degree other than being a stay-at-home mom. We don't know the whole background story.

 

I can't really afford to stay home, but I can't afford to go to work, either. Daycare for 3 kids, heck even 1, along with gas, special clothes, lunches out (you can pack your lunch, but that doesn't always happen), etc...

 

It's no one's fault but mine and my husband's that we have 2 kids and 1 on the way, but it's cheaper for me to stay at home...even if we just had 1. Since I have no degree, I would probably have a lower-paying job that just would not justify me leaving my kid in daycare...not to mention my husband would find an excuse to spend all the money I made on his impulse buys. Lol...

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It's absolutely not more important. I think it's apples and oranges. But I can't blame her for not having a degree because I am in the same situation. If I got cancer tomorrow and then got divorced, I'd have no way of paying for my treatment. I have no degree as of yet, but it's not that I don't want one. I would ultimately like to become an RN or sonographer, but I can't do either of those right now because I am pregnant. And it will be too hard to do with a new, itty bitty baby and 2 other children and my husband's weird schedule with no family to help us with the kids. I really have no choice but to wait until they are a bit older. Now, is that anyone's worry but mine? No...but just saying that because maybe there is a reason she never got a degree other than being a stay-at-home mom. We don't know the whole background story.

 

I can't really afford to stay home, but I can't afford to go to work, either. Daycare for 3 kids, heck even 1, along with gas, special clothes, lunches out (you can pack your lunch, but that doesn't always happen), etc...

 

It's no one's fault but mine and my husband's that we have 2 kids and 1 on the way, but it's cheaper for me to stay at home...even if we just had 1. Since I have no degree, I would probably have a lower-paying job that just would not justify me leaving my kid in daycare...not to mention my husband would find an excuse to spend all the money I made on his impulse buys. Lol...

You are right...you shouldn't have to have a college degree in order to have health coverage, thats the dumbest thing I've heard today!

 

I've been a stay at home mom most of my adult life and because I'm raising kids I don't deserve the have health insurance? Who would say that?

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My thoughts exactly. We have been SOOOO fortunate to always have excellent medical coverage through Hubby's work, it makes me sad when I go to the pharmacy to get medicine and it's free or super cheap and there are people with chronic medical problems having to pick and choose and get 4 of these and 6 of these just to make it through the week. That is past wrong to me. I have no answers as to how it should be fixed, but when the government we pay taxes to chooses to fund art exhibits and so many of the other whacky things they give money to, what are we coming to? No good end I'm guessing.

 

This should have been a priority a long time ago and so many people would not be in the dire straights they are in now. And the kicker is, is that we have no other choice than to pay taxes and have no say so as to how it is spent.

 

 

not a clue why you got dinged on this response...

 

 

 

 

IMHO- why the hell not get married for insurance? Gold Diggers marry for money so why can't the sick marry for Ins??? :unknw:

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not a clue why you got dinged on this response...

 

 

 

 

IMHO- why the hell not get married for insurance? Gold Diggers marry for money so why can't the sick marry for Ins??? :unknw:

Good point

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Has it occured to any one that she might not be able to go to work because of her health.I have been widowed and disabled since 2006 and I have to fight for my own money[disability].Some people that has never worked can get all kinds of benefits but not me after 40 years of working and paying into it.

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