gpatt0n Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Chief and Asst. Chief at Hiram Police Department resign Tuesday Hiram Police Chief Johnny Shirley, who ran for sheriff in last year's Republican primary, and his assistant, resigned from their leadership posts at the Hiram Police Department Tuesday, December 15th, said Terrie Holly, city clerk of Hiram. Ms. Holly said, "Yes, there have been two resignations. Chief Johnny Shirley resigned voluntarily and Troy Hendricks, Lt. Troy Hendricks, has resigned voluntarily. Any rumors out there to the contrary are not true. They are voluntary resignations and that is all there is to say." Ms. Holly did say that the city planned to name an interim Chief to head the force by Friday. The Hiram police force has grown rapidly in the past decade and now numbers more than a dozen POST certified officers. pubby Link to post Share on other sites
joemturner Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Wow! That is curious. Link to post Share on other sites
I'm Floored Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Link to post Share on other sites
EagleWings Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Wow. 2 "volunteer" resignations at the same time. No suspicions there. Link to post Share on other sites
thread_killer Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 (edited) Not surprised. Sort of. Edited December 16, 2009 by Thread Killer Link to post Share on other sites
Caped Crusader Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Sorry To Hear This! Hope everything is OK with them! The city of Hiram will be hard pressed to fill their shoes! Link to post Share on other sites
jp184 Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Not a surprise here. Link to post Share on other sites
lotstodo Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 OK, who has the real story, because this just smells like whitewash. Link to post Share on other sites
MeWhoElse Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Pubby is Johnny Shirley available for an interview? Link to post Share on other sites
celeste Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Link to post Share on other sites
jlh10101 Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Now they need to fire about 6 more. I could name my top three but I won't. Link to post Share on other sites
peachesga Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 HHHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM Link to post Share on other sites
solosoul Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Chief and Asst. Chief at Hiram Police Department resign Tuesday Hiram Police Chief Johnny Shirley, who ran for sheriff in last year's Republican primary, and his assistant, resigned from their leadership posts at the Hiram Police Department Tuesday, December 15th, said Terrie Holly, city clerk of Hiram. Ms. Holly said, "Yes, there have been two resignations. Chief Johnny Shirley resigned voluntarily and Troy Hendricks, Lt. Troy Hendricks, has resigned voluntarily. Any rumors out there to the contrary are not true. They are voluntary resignations and that is all there is to say." Ms. Holly did say that the city planned to name an interim Chief to head the force by Friday. The Hiram police force has grown rapidly in the past decade and now numbers more than a dozen POST certified officers. pubby That statement is the biggest joke I have heard in a long time. When this happens there is A LLOT MORE than needs to be said. Two top people at the same time decide to resign??? Sorry but I hope Ms. Holly does not really think people are dumb enough to think something did not happen and deserve to know just what. Link to post Share on other sites
winston1972 Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Inquiring minds have to know. Someone PM what the rumor is, pretty please. Link to post Share on other sites
Guard dad Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Now they need to fire about 6 more. I could name my top three but I won't. Yep! It's almost embarrassing. Link to post Share on other sites
TJB Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Inquiring minds have to know. Someone PM what the rumor is, pretty please. Did they have an affair with Tiger Woods too? Link to post Share on other sites
tbird Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 I did hear from a friend that neither one of them was at the City Counsel meeting last night---and that was really weird. they are ALWAYS there. Link to post Share on other sites
afriendlygeek Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Did they have an affair with Tiger Woods too? Maybe Obama demanded their resignation. Link to post Share on other sites
lotstodo Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Maybe Obama demanded their resignation. That would never happen. But I heard something about a girlfriend in Argentina or something. Link to post Share on other sites
thread_killer Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 (edited) ... deleted ... Edited December 17, 2009 by Thread Killer Link to post Share on other sites
tbird Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 (edited) -- deleted -- OH NO YOU DIDN'T!!!!!!! Edited December 17, 2009 by PUBBY to conform with previous edits Link to post Share on other sites
MeWhoElse Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 OH NO YOU DIDN'T!!!!!!! Great save, lolol... Link to post Share on other sites
EagleWings Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Come on people. There you go. Let the truth ooze out. Who is going to get the credit of opening the flood gates? Link to post Share on other sites
gpatt0n Posted December 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Rumors folks ... those are rumors and these are real lives. As far as the opportunity to address the issue, the former Chief knows where we are and I would offer either he or the Lt. the opportunity to address the community. pubby Link to post Share on other sites
thread_killer Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Thanks Pubby. Link to post Share on other sites
NewsJunky Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Rumors folks ... those are rumors and these are real lives. As far as the opportunity to address the issue, the former Chief knows where we are and I would offer either he or the Lt. the opportunity to address the community. pubby You are right Pubby! Link to post Share on other sites
EagleWings Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Don't the people have a right to know? They are public officials..............Ok, we'll wait for the official word. Have we heard the word yet? How bout now? Link to post Share on other sites
Cathyhelms Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Don't the people have a right to know? They are public officials..............Ok, we'll wait for the official word. Have we heard the word yet? How bout now? Are you in a hurry or sumpthin??? Link to post Share on other sites
EagleWings Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Are you in a hurry or sumpthin??? You know me..................I like to bring a smile to those with a sense of humor. Link to post Share on other sites
+tona Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 That statement is the biggest joke I have heard in a long time. When this happens there is A LLOT MORE than needs to be said. Two top people at the same time decide to resign??? Sorry but I hope Ms. Holly does not really think people are dumb enough to think something did not happen and deserve to know just what. Link to post Share on other sites
gpatt0n Posted December 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 BS: The public's right to know would, in my opinion, depend on whether the issues involved directly their public duties or whether the issues were strictly private. For instance, I find the salacious gossip regarding Tiger Wood totally absurd. The guy is a public figure because he can drive a golf ball, not a car. He was not elected to any public office and there is no hint of rape or other possible criminal behavior in any of his private affairs. I therefore find it of such minimal interest what he did, has done, and who he did it with and to as to be totally and utterly disinterested. About the only way I would be interested in going further in this case is if there were serious allegations of criminal behavior. I would expect such serious allegations to come from either the Internal Affairs Department of the Hiram Police Dept (if there is one) or from the Paulding County Sheriff's office. I've heard not one hint of criminal abuse of office in this case and would be exceedingly surprised and disappointed if there were. I will add that there is a legal difference in the the public's right to know about the Chief and the Lt. ... as the chief - a former candidate for public office ... is much more a public figure than the Lt. At this point in time, in my opinion, the more strict limit of privacy that attaches to the Lt. also attaches to the chief. pubby Link to post Share on other sites
TJB Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Maybe they decided to go hiking on the Appalachian Trail. Link to post Share on other sites
lowrider Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Pubby, I just gotta wonder...... Why did you even post this? You know how it is on here. We want the details, ALL the details. It's always interesting when a public official "voluntarily" resigns, especially 2, on the same day. And there's nothing rotten in Denmark, right? Right. Link to post Share on other sites
MeWhoElse Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Pubby, I just gotta wonder...... Why did you even post this? You know how it is on here. We want the details, ALL the details. It's always interesting when a public official "voluntarily" resigns, especially 2, on the same day. And there's nothing rotten in Denmark, right? Right. Great question. If I were the reporter here, I would not be waiting around on them to bring me the story. I would be going to them to get it... Link to post Share on other sites
joemturner Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 1. I agree with Pat regarding the Tiger Woods business and its comparison to the current topic. It's pure tabloidism. I'm glad to know that Pat finds it as gauche as I do for media operatives to enable and manipulate the discussion of controversial, salacious, or otherwise sensational subjects simply for the purpose of driving the ratings of their particular outlet, whether it be a news channel, a magazine... or even a web forum. 2. I don't know the people involved in this Hiram police force issue firsthand, but I do know and respect people who hold Mr. Shirley in high regard. That's why I am hopeful for everyone's sake that this Hiram situation turns out not to be as sticky as it looks on the surface. At the same time, it doesn't imply a lack of respect to see two resignations on the same day and reach the reasonable conclusion that there is significantly more to the story. Link to post Share on other sites
EagleWings Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 BS: The public's right to know would, in my opinion, depend on whether the issues involved directly their public duties or whether the issues were strictly private. For instance, I find the salacious gossip regarding Tiger Wood totally absurd. The guy is a public figure because he can drive a golf ball, not a car. He was not elected to any public office and there is no hint of rape or other possible criminal behavior in any of his private affairs. I therefore find it of such minimal interest what he did, has done, and who he did it with and to as to be totally and utterly disinterested. About the only way I would be interested in going further in this case is if there were serious allegations of criminal behavior. I would expect such serious allegations to come from either the Internal Affairs Department of the Hiram Police Dept (if there is one) or from the Paulding County Sheriff's office. I've heard not one hint of criminal abuse of office in this case and would be exceedingly surprised and disappointed if there were. I will add that there is a legal difference in the the public's right to know about the Chief and the Lt. ... as the chief - a former candidate for public office ... is much more a public figure than the Lt. At this point in time, in my opinion, the more strict limit of privacy that attaches to the Lt. also attaches to the chief. pubby Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..................did you not get my post? Should I even bother to explain? Maybe you need to go back and see just onnnnnnnne more time. I was just making light of the "gossip" opportunity. No seriousness at all in my post. So please, don't pick me out the crowd. Shame, shame. Link to post Share on other sites
solosoul Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Great question. If I were the reporter here, I would not be waiting around on them to bring me the story. I would be going to them to get it... Yes that is what a REPORTER would do. As we all know there are MANY times when people are told that either they resign or they will be fired and there are times when good honest people will quit because of things going on they want no part in. Either way a reporter will dig and find out the truth and report it. I guess we can hope that one of the NEWS networks in Atl. will get hold of the story and we can see a report of it on TV. Guess I will go post the question on WSB web site to see if any info is out there. Link to post Share on other sites
EagleWings Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Yes that is what a REPORTER would do. As we all know there are MANY times when people are told that either they resign or they will be fired and there are times when good honest people will quit because of things going on they want no part in. Either way a reporter will dig and find out the truth and report it. I guess we can hope that one of the NEWS networks in Atl. will get hold of the story and we can see a report of it on TV. Guess I will go post the question on WSB web site to see if any info is out there. Link to post Share on other sites
gpatt0n Posted December 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 A reporter has to have sources, Solo. Obviously I had sources who clued me to the fact that there had been a change in Hiram. I've been out here a long time and while I've heard rumors, rumors at best can lead one to ask questions. To get the story, folks with direct knowledge have to be willing to talk and answer questions. Right now, in this regard, no one is talking. What do you suggest, we act like a tabloid newspaper or TV show and offer $10,000 for an exclusive interview with whom? The dynamics and media issues and benefits are not that great here and I won't ask you to put up the money, Solo. Oh, the Atlanta media might be interested and could probably spare two or three dozen man hours (a good part of my week by the way) to hound a list of potential contacts but ... frankly ... unless they get lucky like they did with Susan Richardson, I know they'll come away with nothing. They've been here and done that before. Do know that I have no problem at all writing the story, however it goes. But to give you a bit better idea of how things work in general, let me go back to a story that is probably before your time. I had a story from the PC Drug Task Force about a missing vial of cocaine missing from the PCSO during the tenure of the county's first republican sheriff since reconstruction, Perry Grogan. (Grogan died earlier this year.) I was called to a secret meeting at Paulding Meadows park where I was given the story from a reliable source. The story expanded to include an information from an Assistant DA and DA and included a video tape of a bail bondsman who appeared to have offered to have that bit of evidence disappear in exchange for $5000. The bailbondsman died in the hospital of a heart attack he had at the hospital and the tie to the sheriff was broken and the daily metro newspapers actually ended up ignoring the story. Part of that was politics -- Newt was pretty strong in these here parts and, well among the oddities, was a never opened (sealed) federal grand jury indictment of Paulding's High Sheriff. (An assistant US Attorney was aghast that I had the case number!) I was also writing stories about how the Sheriff was a bit of a dog who was cited in three sexual harassment cases including one from the gal who was negotiating for a national vendor the pay phone system at the jail. (It was while doing this research I ran across the sealed federal indictment.) Bow wow and written but also totally ignored by the Atlanta press. But what none of us knew ... oddly didn't even expect considering the various ages of the women who had filed sexual harassment suits ... is that the sheriff apparently didn't distinguish women from pre-pubescent girls. Seriously. Seems that after losing to then newcomer Bruce Harris, Grogan attempted to regain office four years later. At that time one of his victims - a 12 year old child who had been forced to take baths with the high sheriff - was 16 and while her family had moved from the area and had been offered money and support by the high sheriff, they decided to turn state's evidence and talk about the incidents of child molestation performed by the sheriff. Those allegations of course were characterized by the local Republicans as politically motivated but politically motivation doesn't send people to prison for a decade and put them on the sexual offenders list for the remainder of their lives. Yes, I knew there was more to the whole story and there was much that has never been revealed about the shenanigans that occurred in that office at that time. But the point is that none of will ever come out unless someone decides to talk. Guess what Solo: Folks can come on here and talk, can't they. pubby Link to post Share on other sites
lisabug606 Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 One of two things happened here... 1- They were given an opportunity to resign instead being fired and having their POST certifications investigated. 2- They saw the writing on the wall and resigned before word got out about something that would jeopardize their careers. I do not have any inside information, but when two higher ranking law enforcement officers resign at the same time then one of the above situations has happened. Link to post Share on other sites
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