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#1 Stonewall

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Posted 21 February 2019 - 04:22 PM

The State of Georgia senate approved $35 million for the new aviation academy at whatever they call the Paulding Airport. I am anti-airport and always have been but I do believe this is a step in the right direction to help release the albatross from taxpayers necks.



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Posted 21 February 2019 - 06:23 PM

Anything that can make it useful is great!


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Posted 22 February 2019 - 04:47 PM

Gosh, I'm amazed. Trumpist Republican's actually supporting 'public education' ... don't you know Betsy DeVoss and the Koch's think public education of any kind is socialism! 

 

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PS:  We all should know the logic behind the anti-public education stance of conservatives.  They (like most of  us) know that knowledge is power and surmise if others have knowledge and therefore power, they don't have that power and they want all the power.

 

PPS:  I think the aviation academy is a great use of the space at Silver Comet Field and am just gob-stopped by the local Luddite's attitudes surrounding the airport in general.  One might assume they'll come out against growing grass or even the sun shining on the space because of the 'association' both have with the airport.



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Posted 22 February 2019 - 06:03 PM

We should turn that place into a dragstrip. Drag racing is awesome


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#5 The Sound Guy

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Posted 23 February 2019 - 09:06 PM

Gosh, I'm amazed. Trumpist Republican's actually supporting 'public education' ... don't you know Betsy DeVoss and the Koch's think public education of any kind is socialism! 

 

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PS:  We all should know the logic behind the anti-public education stance of conservatives.  They (like most of  us) know that knowledge is power and surmise if others have knowledge and therefore power, they don't have that power and they want all the power.

 

It kinda depends on the type of Public Education.  The Socialist indoctrination that is passed off as public education at most major liberal arts colleges cheered by Democrats as it sticks the kids with massive loans to try to get a degree in "Underwater BB Stacking" or something equally as useless in the work force and is designed to get them hooked on government support where the Liberal own them.

 

This program at least looks to be an actual training program that would actually produce graduates that can make their own way in the work force and become independent thinkers.  This program would NEVER make it off the ground in a Blue state. 


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Posted 24 February 2019 - 02:54 PM

 

It kinda depends on the type of Public Education.  The Socialist indoctrination that is passed off as public education at most major liberal arts colleges cheered by Democrats as it sticks the kids with massive loans to try to get a degree in "Underwater BB Stacking" or something equally as useless in the work force and is designed to get them hooked on government support where the Liberal own them.

 

This program at least looks to be an actual training program that would actually produce graduates that can make their own way in the work force and become independent thinkers.  This program would NEVER make it off the ground in a Blue state. 

 

 

I disagree.  This is precisely the type of effort that would be adopted in a blue state.  Any study of vocational education on the federal level establishes the efforts as programs developed during moments of progressive dominance with the first major vocational education act passed in 1917 (Woodrow Wilson administration) and additional key expansions passed in 1963 (LBJ).  The last major act was in 1984 which appropriated public funds for public vocational education.

 

The real issue surrounding vocation education is the proliferation of private trade schools (for profit) and public funding for public trade schools with republicans predictably shorting public efforts in deference to private trade schools (the costs of which have contributed dramatically to the ballooning of student debt.)

 

Said differently, legislatures in red states traditionally defer to private enterprise to provide vocational education in many cases although the practicality of public support for vocational education is so strong that,  unless you're dealing with extreme conservatives who assert that the defense and police functions are the only functions of what they think is legitimate government and everything else needs repeal.

 

Why would conservatives take that stance? Because the extremists assert that the government should not be involved in funding education. 

 

Sound guy, you can't have it both ways.

 

One of the key elements supporting more general public educational efforts is based on the understanding of the impact that artificial intelligence is predicted to take on the nature of work as we progress toward a more automated workforce.  One's attitudes toward life in general are shaped by education, whether that education is philosophical, religious or practical.  

 

Practical education traditionally was defined as grades 1-8 followed by job training/vocational education. It is important but unless 'the plan' is that the worker toils 80 hours a week at a job with limited leisure time, it is not adequate to bring a person on board as a participating member of society.

 

Religious education, which presumably is designed to teach a person about humanity's spiritual history and place in the universe, has also developed a political educational component in recent decades ... at least in the US.  This political aspect has become a critical element of religion policy in Muslim nations with their madras (church schools) which incorporates practical education (and gives it short shrift.)

 

Philosophical education, which seeks to have the person understand he/she needs to examine their life in a largely unrestricted manner in order for the individual to find meaning in their life, is the goal of a well-rounded education since the period western culture defined as the enlightenment.

 

Even in my time in the public school, my opinion is we spent too little time on the philosophical elements of a well-rounded education over-emphasizing rote memorization in my time.  Today, our public schools have even abdicated for all practical purposes, the course work commonly called civics as well as eliminating most philosophical education to survey history.  I think we see this particularly clearly in the social attitudes of many in highly technical fields like medicine and engineering.

 

In short, when you're laser focused on making a buck, there is little or no time left for examining one's life. and, as Socrates said, "the unexamined life is not worth living."  For more reading, check this article in the NYT Magazine dated 2/21/2019 entitled, "America's Professional Elite: Wealthy, successful and Miserable" which carried the tag line:

 

 The upper echelon is hoarding money and privilege to a degree not seen in decades. But that doesn’t make them happy at work.

 

 

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PS:  When you consider the primary role of the press is to ask questions - what passes today for the Socratic method - and Trump's characterization of the press as "The Enemy of the People" ... pretty much establishes the anti-intellectual current that floods throughout this administration.



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Posted 25 February 2019 - 06:19 AM

I think Pubby has explained in great detail why there have only been 8 topics replied too with 9 total replies in the last week, in a very well thought out manner.

Edited by mojo413, 25 February 2019 - 06:24 AM.

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Posted 25 February 2019 - 07:37 AM

The original intent of my post was to inform the members of a windfall for the county not  ask for a manifesto of the evils of conservatism. I was naïve enough to think it might actually start a productive conversation that might pick up traffic on this site. The owner once again proves his true twisted hatred for anything that does not fit the manifesto of utopian socialism. Not everyone wants to hear the politics behind every damn subject they post. Give it a rest Castro your dog and pony act is getting old and you are the only one who gives a damn about your thoughts and political beliefs. That should be apparent to anyone by the traffic or lack of traffic on this site.   


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Posted 25 February 2019 - 08:46 PM

Obviously I'm totally confounded by the blatant hypocrisy at play everywhere in 2019...

 

The origin of my confusion is the airport and the notions of local far right expressed that the whole proposition of public financing and construction of a transportation facility is wrong and ought to be illegal is one of many surprises. As one who supported the airport, was I wrong to get idea that those who wrapped their opposition in the strict ideology of government non-participation in such a venture was absolute? 

 

So, when the absolutism of that stance was suddenly abandoned, I came into the conversation and said 'hurray!' ... and simply remarked on how that notion was at odds with conservative ideology.

 

Said a little differently, I don't think those in the anti-airport group ought to try and take credit for good things happening at the airport.

 

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Posted 26 February 2019 - 06:09 AM



Gosh, I'm amazed. Trumpist Republican's actually supporting 'public education' ... don't you know Betsy DeVoss and the Koch's think public education of any kind is socialism!

 

pubby

 

PS:  We all should know the logic behind the anti-public education stance of conservatives.  They (like most of  us) know that knowledge is power and surmise if others have knowledge and therefore power, they don't have that power and they want all the power.

 

PPS:  I think the aviation academy is a great use of the space at Silver Comet Field and am just gob-stopped by the local Luddite's attitudes surrounding the airport in general.  One might assume they'll come out against growing grass or even the sun shining on the space because of the 'association' both have with the airport.

 

 

 

https://www.wsj.com/...ties-1510789477

 

https://www.charlesk...orted-colleges/

 

 

 

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Posted 26 February 2019 - 07:52 AM

I think Pubby has explained in great detail why there have only been 8 topics replied too with 9 total replies in the last week, in a very well thought out manner.

yeah, but I did find a great deal on moth balls!


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Posted 26 February 2019 - 12:00 PM

yeah, but I did find a great deal on moth balls!


And I got a great deal on a scratch & dent 8’ folding table a couple weeks ago.

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Posted 26 February 2019 - 01:06 PM

 

May 1, 2018 - — Virginia’s largest public university granted the conservative Charles Koch Foundation a say in the hiring and firing of professors in exchange for millions of dollars in donations, according to newly released documents. The release of donor agreements between George Mason ...
Dec 15, 2015 - In all, 41 states and the District of Columbia house at least one college or university that received Koch foundation funding during 2014.
Missing: hiring ‎| ‎Must include: ‎hiring
May 1, 2018 - Uncovering Koch Role in Faculty Hires ... and raise questions concerning donor influence in academic matters.” ... and that compromising the confidential nature of donations through that avenue by releasing such documents could chill giving. ... Bennett College Loses Appeal; Court Restores Accreditation.
Nov 4, 2014 - Although the events highlighted financial influence from the Koch brothers, ... or hiring choices in inappropriate ways that colleges should reject. ... the top university recipient of Koch donations, students are pushing the ...
Sep 12, 2014 - The billionaire Koch brothers attempted to wield political influence over ... The terms of the donation have been a running sore within FSU, prompting ... the brothers dispensed $13m in 2012 to 163 colleges and universities.
 
And they attempt to spread their radical economics in high schools as well.
 
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They've been spreading this far-right propaganda since the 1950's, first with the John Birch Society and later with its figurative  'ownership' of George Mason University.
 
The message is that of the non-Christian golden rule and is about as pretty as Ayn Rand with a cigarette hanging out the side of her mouth.
 
IMHO you guys have been had... It is sad but the idea that you're status in Koch world is greater than a dogs squeaky toy is nothing but hubris.
 
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Posted 26 February 2019 - 01:48 PM

So glad to see some of you back on here! Turning on my snark radar and my old eyes I guess why this subject is in the forum of "May They Rest in Peace". But really?!

If I'm reading this wrong or on the wrong forum I apologize. TIA
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