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#81 cptlo306

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Posted 02 March 2018 - 09:16 PM

I did notice that there is a section where a back program buy is addressed.

Then tell me. Rush doesn't count.

 

I haven't listened to Rush in 20 years.  There were some posts either earlier in this thread or another with videos of some democrats proposing banning all guns.  


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Posted 02 March 2018 - 09:48 PM

I haven't listened to Rush in 20 years.  There were some posts either earlier in this thread or another with videos of some democrats proposing banning all guns.


No one said they wanted a ban on all guns. The Holder video focused mainly on how get get kids not to think it was cool to have a gun and to change the gun culture. The Feinstein one supported a ban on assault rifles.

Is there a question that the right wants assault guns banned?
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Posted 03 March 2018 - 12:34 AM

No one said they wanted a ban on all guns. The Holder video focused mainly on how get get kids not to think it was cool to have a gun and to change the gun culture. The Feinstein one supported a ban on assault rifles.

Is there a question that the right wants assault guns banned?

That takes us back to the definition of "assault guns".

I'm not aware of any actual assault weapons that are legal.

BTW...it's come out that the Florida shooter used only 10 round magazines.


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Posted 03 March 2018 - 12:37 AM

That takes us back to the definition of "assault guns".
I'm not aware of any actual assault weapons that are legal.
BTW...it's come out that the Florida shooter used only 10 round magazines.


The definition is set on in the link mrs. Howard posted.
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Posted 03 March 2018 - 01:05 AM

The definition is set on in the link mrs. Howard posted.

The bill? Laughable.

The only gun people are making a big deal about is the AR-15. And it's no more an assault weapon than a semi-automatic deer rifle is.

Any ban on guns would have only a minor effect on the number of said guns on the street. And that would take many years before it is realized. No telling what kind of weaponry will be out by then, technology is going crazy!

You guys on the left continue to demonstrate that you have no interest whatsoever in discussing real solutions to this problem. You won't discuss mental illness, racial or other divides, social pressures, parenting issues caused by our socioeconomic circumstances, etc. All you want to do is to restrict guns. And that will not solve the problem.

There were fast shooting guns available almost three centuries ago, and we didn't have school shootings. The one below was made in 1780 and would shoot 22 rounds in under 60 seconds.



Here's a level action from 1873 that would fire like an automatic



I can go to Home Depot and buy supplies to make a rifle that would be somewhat cruder than modern weapons but still very deadly. The bomb that was used in Oklahoma City was made from ammonia nitrate which is a common fertilizer.

Banning guns is not the answer. We have to address our cultural and socioeconomic problems.

Criminals will always find a way to get weapons. Lunatics will get their hands on guns or other weapons when they want to kill people.


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Posted 03 March 2018 - 04:47 AM

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Edited by mrshoward, 03 March 2018 - 05:42 AM.

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Posted 03 March 2018 - 08:03 AM

2 shot at Central Michigan University, suspect at large: Police

March 2, 2018

 

 

https://www.yahoo.co...topstories.html

 

 

 

"The Central Michigan University shooting was a 19-year-old who used a handgun.

The law says you have to be 21 to buy a handgun."

 

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Edited by mrshoward, 03 March 2018 - 08:03 AM.

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Posted 03 March 2018 - 08:17 AM

"The Central Michigan University shooting was a 19-year-old who used a handgun.
The law says you have to be 21 to buy a handgun."
 
8) 


This thread was started because I wanted to discuss the possibility of a ban of "assault type" guns and to get peoples feelings.
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Posted 03 March 2018 - 01:43 PM

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Posted 05 March 2018 - 09:04 AM

So mental health is the "real" issue here? How about bringing forth the "real" issue which is allowing the general public access to these guns? What purpose do they serve the general public?

Look at what every mass shooter had in common outside the gun and you will see the problem.


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Posted 05 March 2018 - 09:08 AM

This thread was started because I wanted to discuss the possibility of a ban of "assault type" guns and to get peoples feelings.

You're proposal of a buy-back program for "assault type" guns is utterly ridiculous.   That's my feeling on that.


Edited by El Zorro, 05 March 2018 - 09:08 AM.

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Posted 05 March 2018 - 11:46 AM

You're proposal of a buy-back program for "assault type" guns is utterly ridiculous.   That's my feeling on that.


OK, but why are you against it. What action would you propose to get these guns out of the general populations hands?

Look at what every mass shooter had in common outside the gun and you will see the problem.


Mental health is definitely a portion of the problem. Why give these people access to these type of guns. The laws/rules currently in place are clearly not working.
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Posted 05 March 2018 - 12:00 PM

OK, but why are you against it. What action would you propose to get these guns out of the general populations hands?

 

Why do you want to take guns out of the general population's hands? Is the left's real agenda now coming out?

 

 

The laws/rules currently in place are clearly not working.

Correct. So why should we make more laws  that won't work?  The Florida shooting is a glaring example of government failure, yet the left still thinks more government is the answer.

And STILL...all you on the left want to discuss is taking guns away instead of addressing the real causes.


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Posted 05 March 2018 - 12:18 PM

Why do you want to take guns out of the general population's hands? Is the left's real agenda now coming out?

 

Correct. So why should we make more laws  that won't work?  The Florida shooting is a glaring example of government failure, yet the left still thinks more government is the answer.

And STILL...all you on the left want to discuss is taking guns away instead of addressing the real causes.

 

 

And if the 6th Commandment were obeyed,  none of the gun laws would be necessary.   One commandment vs. 22,000 laws.


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I guess you haven't been to Detroit recently?  Or, Newark or East St.Louis or Gary, IN, or Stockton, CA?

 

You know, those bastions of liberal Democrat government that have been so successful in attracting wealthy, educated leaders and businesspeople.  Progressive people,  who have uplifted the poorer of their brethren, so their city can be that bright example of how well Socialism works.


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Posted 05 March 2018 - 12:52 PM

Why do you want to take guns out of the general population's hands? Is the left's real agenda now coming out?

 

Correct. So why should we make more laws  that won't work?  The Florida shooting is a glaring example of government failure, yet the left still thinks more government is the answer.

And STILL...all you on the left want to discuss is taking guns away instead of addressing the real causes.

 

What are the "real causes" and what are your solutions again?


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Posted 05 March 2018 - 01:26 PM

 

What are the "real causes" and what are your solutions again?

How many times do I have to post them?

All you're interested in is taking away the guns, anyway.


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Posted 05 March 2018 - 01:33 PM

How many times do I have to post them?

All you're interested in is taking away the guns, anyway.

 

He didn't see your comments...he was logged in under another troll's name.  


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Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist".

 

 

I guess you haven't been to Detroit recently?  Or, Newark or East St.Louis or Gary, IN, or Stockton, CA?

 

You know, those bastions of liberal Democrat government that have been so successful in attracting wealthy, educated leaders and businesspeople.  Progressive people,  who have uplifted the poorer of their brethren, so their city can be that bright example of how well Socialism works.


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Posted 05 March 2018 - 01:47 PM

Why do you want to take guns out of the general population's hands? Is the left's real agenda now coming out?
 

Correct. So why should we make more laws  that won't work?  The Florida shooting is a glaring example of government failure, yet the left still thinks more government is the answer.
And STILL...all you on the left want to discuss is taking guns away instead of addressing the real causes.


Actually, I don't want to take guns out of the general public hands. I would like to see a ban on assault type weapon. I did not say that more government is the answer but what entity do you think would work best in getting these weapons out of the general public hands?

What purpose do these assault type guns serve? Why are you so against a ban on assault weapons?
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Posted 05 March 2018 - 02:03 PM

Actually, I don't want to take guns out of the general public hands. I would like to see a ban on assault type weapon. I did not say that more government is the answer but what entity do you think would work best in getting these weapons out of the general public hands?

What purpose do these assault type guns serve? Why are you so against a ban on assault weapons?

 

Wait...I'm confused.  You don't want to take guns out of the general public's hands.  But you do want the govt to get 'assault style' weapons out of the general public's hands.

 

Which is it?


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Posted 05 March 2018 - 02:44 PM

 

Wait...I'm confused.  You don't want to take guns out of the general public's hands.  But you do want the govt to get 'assault style' weapons out of the general public's hands.

 

Which is it?

You hear that?


Beep....beep...beep

She's backing up.


Actually, I don't want to take guns out of the general public hands. I would like to see a ban on assault type weapon. I did not say that more government is the answer but what entity do you think would work best in getting these weapons out of the general public hands?

What purpose do these assault type guns serve? Why are you so against a ban on assault weapons?

We've already shown you that there are no legal "assault type" weapons. Only guns that look scawwwy.

So your point is moot.


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Posted 05 March 2018 - 03:07 PM

 


We've already shown you that there are no legal "assault type" weapons. Only guns that look scawwwy.

So your point is moot.

 

I think we have also shown that as long the 'church of the 2nd amendment' wants to argue over semantics they are not only not serious about finding a solution, they don't even intend on engaging in an honest discussion.

 

 

New gun restrictions are a win for Walmart and Dick’s

https://finance.yaho...-182836884.html


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Posted 05 March 2018 - 03:19 PM

Wait...I'm confused.  You don't want to take guns out of the general public's hands.  But you do want the govt to get 'assault style' weapons out of the general public's hands

Which is it?


Please point out where I said that I wanted to take guns out of the general public hands. Anyone can clearly see that this thread is about the banning of assault weapons.

  

You hear that?
Beep....beep...beep
She's backing up.
We've already shown you that there are no legal "assault type" weapons. Only guns that look scawwwy.
So your point is moot.

Follow the description laid out in the proposed bill banning assault weapons for a clear definition of assault type weapons. I have not backed up on anything and anytime I see a parent who is in about out of their mind with grief because they have lost a child to this lunacy my feelings are just reinforced.

You don't have any answers nor can you justify with just one example why these assault type weapons should be available to the general public.
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Posted 05 March 2018 - 03:48 PM

I think we have also shown that as long the 'church of the 2nd amendment' wants to argue over semantics they are not only not serious about finding a solution, they don't even intend on engaging in an honest discussion.
 
 

New gun restrictions are a win for Walmart and Dick’s
https://finance.yaho...-182836884.html


Of course you are right. I wonder why they even respond in the first place.
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Posted 05 March 2018 - 04:22 PM

 

I think we have also shown that as long the 'church of the 2nd amendment' wants to argue over semantics they are not only not serious about finding a solution, they don't even intend on engaging in an honest discussion.

 

 

New gun restrictions are a win for Walmart and Dick’s

https://finance.yaho...-182836884.html

Now that's a stupid response.

There is absolutely no logic in your desire to ban AR-15s, and it wouldn't make a difference. Several of us have proven that the AR-15 is no different from many deer rifles aside from it's looks, yet you continue to pursue a fantasy which will not do one bit of good. How dare you claim that I don't want to have an honest discussion when you and the other libs refuse to get off the gun control bandwagon long enough to discuss REAL solutions to the REAL causes behind these shootings.

 


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Posted 05 March 2018 - 05:25 PM

You don't have any answers nor can you justify with just one example why these assault type weapons should be available to the general public.

 

2 examples:

1. Target shooting

2. Home security


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Posted 05 March 2018 - 05:51 PM

2 examples:
1. Target shooting
2. Home security

Target shooting? How many people have been killed in these mass murders?

Home security? Who in the heck is going to break into your house to warrant this kind of firepower? There are many, many alternatives to having an assault type gun for home protection.

Weak. Both of them. And certainly not justification to have them available to the general public.

Now that's a stupid response.
There is absolutely no logic in your desire to ban AR-15s, and it wouldn't make a difference. Several of us have proven that the AR-15 is no different from many deer rifles aside from it's looks, yet you continue to pursue a fantasy which will not do one bit of good. How dare you claim that I don't want to have an honest discussion when you and the other libs refuse to get off the gun control bandwagon long enough to discuss REAL solutions to the REAL causes behind these shootings.

"Several of us have proven ......." is not correct.

Then there's this: http://www.chicagotr...0302-story.html
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Posted 05 March 2018 - 06:11 PM

Target shooting? How many people have been killed in these mass murders?

Home security? Who in the heck is going to break into your house to warrant this kind of firepower? There are many, many alternatives to having an assault type gun for home protection.

So you speak for everyone? Typical elitist liberal.

 

 



Then there's this: http://www.chicagotr...0302-story.html

 

The author has no idea what he's writing about. He keeps referring to the M-16 which is a fully automatic rifle. The AR-15 is a semi-automatic.

Not a one of you have responded to the fact that a semi-automatic deer rifle is just as deadly as an AR-15, yet you continue with your emotionally driven call to ban the AR-15.

And you still aren't willing to discuss the real reasons that cause these shootings. Poor parenting, mental illness, psychotropic drugs, etc.

Proving yet again that the Left is all about gun control. You admitted above that you want to disarm the general public.


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Posted 05 March 2018 - 06:12 PM

Target shooting? How many people have been killed in these mass murders?

Home security? Who in the heck is going to break into your house to warrant this kind of firepower? There are many, many alternatives to having an assault type gun for home protection.

Weak. Both of them. And certainly not justification to have them available to the general public.

 

More people are killed by knives, handguns, and blunt objects than rifles (and that doesn't even limit rifles to so called 'assault weapons').  Should we ban all knives, handguns, hammers, rocks, etc. too?  Heck, even more people are killed by other's bare hands, feet, fists.


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Posted 05 March 2018 - 06:24 PM

More people are killed by knives, handguns, and blunt objects than rifles (and that doesn't even limit rifles to so called 'assault weapons').  Should we ban all knives, handguns, hammers, rocks, etc. too?  Heck, even more people are killed by other's bare hands, feet, fists.

We are not talking about all knives, handguns, hammers, rocks, other's bare hands, feet, fist. We are talking about assault type rifles.

So you speak for everyone? Typical elitist liberal.
 

The author has no idea what he's writing about. He keeps referring to the M-16 which is a fully automatic rifle. The AR-15 is a semi-automatic.
Not a one of you have responded to the fact that a semi-automatic deer rifle is just as deadly as an AR-15, yet you continue with your emotionally driven call to ban the AR-15.
And you still aren't willing to discuss the real reasons that cause these shootings. Poor parenting, mental illness, psychotropic drugs, etc.
Proving yet again that the Left is all about gun control. You admitted above that you want to disarm the general public.

Exactly where did I post that I wanted to disarm people? Also, there are many, many, many people that support a ban and I am not being a elitist liberal.
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Posted 05 March 2018 - 06:26 PM

 

More people are killed by knives, handguns, and blunt objects than rifles (and that doesn't even limit rifles to so called 'assault weapons').  Should we ban all knives, handguns, hammers, rocks, etc. too?  Heck, even more people are killed by other's bare hands, feet, fists.

Not to mention automobiles.

Alcohol kills far more people than guns, so why don't we ban it? Oh wait, we tried that and it was a disaster.



Exactly where did I post that I wanted to disarm people?


 

 

What action would you propose to get these guns out of the general populations hands?


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Posted 05 March 2018 - 06:39 PM

Not to mention automobiles.
Alcohol kills far more people than guns, so why don't we ban it? Oh wait, we tried that and it was a disaster.


Either your comprehension is off or you are being a troll. I suspect it's the latter.

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Posted 05 March 2018 - 06:43 PM

  Heck, even more people are killed by other's bare hands, feet, fists.

 

You probably need some aloe and one of these after pulling that little gem out of your rear.

 

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Posted 05 March 2018 - 06:43 PM

Either your comprehension is off or you are being a troll. I suspect it's the latter.

Mods, please close this thread.

Your true agenda was revealed.

Busted!


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#114 cptlo306

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Posted 05 March 2018 - 06:45 PM

 

You probably need some aloe and one of these after pulling that little gem out of your rear.

 

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It is a fact.  Ignore the facts if you wish.


We are not talking about all knives, handguns, hammers, rocks, other's bare hands, feet, fist. We are talking about assault type rifles.
 

 

So your goal is to ban guns, not save more lives. Got it.


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#115 CitizenCain

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Posted 05 March 2018 - 06:52 PM

 

It is a fact.  Ignore the facts if you wish.

 

Sort of like those Kellyanne Conway's "alternative facts" ? And btw the only way to make your ridiculous "fact " work is to add up all the shootings and killings of the past 20 years to equal one 2017


Edited by CitizenCain, 05 March 2018 - 06:55 PM.

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Posted 05 March 2018 - 06:55 PM

 

Sort of like those Kellyanne Conway's "alternative facts" ? And btw the only way to make your ridiculous "fact " work is to add up all the shootings and killings of the past 20 years to equal one 2017

 

You're wrong.  Look it up.

 

Since you may need help doing the research:

 

https://www.statista...by-weapon-used/

 

https://ucr.fbi.gov/...n_2010-2014.xls


Edited by cptlo306, 05 March 2018 - 06:57 PM.

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Posted 05 March 2018 - 07:08 PM

 

You're wrong.  Look it up.

 

Since you may need help doing the research:

 

https://www.statista...by-weapon-used/

 

https://ucr.fbi.gov/...n_2010-2014.xls

 

Firearms :10,181

 

Hands and feet :656. 

 

Here's your donut.

 

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Posted 05 March 2018 - 07:20 PM

 

Firearms :10,181

 

Hands and feet :656. 

 

Here's your donut.

 

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You have reading comprehension problems.  As RM pointed out earlier, this thread is about 'assault weapons' (rifles), not all firearms.


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Posted 05 March 2018 - 07:25 PM

 

You have reading comprehension problems.  As RM pointed out earlier, this thread is about 'assault weapons' (rifles), not all firearms.

 

First you say there is no such thing as an assault rifle then you only want to include assault rifles.  :pardon:


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Posted 05 March 2018 - 07:30 PM

 

First you say there is no such thing as an assault rifle then you only want to include assault rifles.  :pardon:

 

Sorry if the discussion is too complicated for you.


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