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#1 PUBBY

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Posted 09 February 2018 - 07:19 PM

For some reason this retro news video produced by the NYTimes on the  famous million dollar judgment regarding spilled Hot coffee at McDonalds shows how politics in particular, confuses facts for a purpose.

 

 

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Posted 10 February 2018 - 09:15 PM

I've always heard that there are always two sides to every story.  This is the first time I've heard the second side. This was a very interesting video, thanks for posting it, Pubby. :)


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Posted 11 February 2018 - 02:04 AM

I've known the facts of the "hot coffee" case for years. and you are right. The case does prove that the media does distort the facts for their own purposes. I'm glad you're admitting that media distortion is real.

Do you also believe tort reform was unnecessary?
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Posted 11 February 2018 - 10:28 AM

Had McDonald's paid the medical costs, as she asked for, this wouldn't have happened. They made a calculated decision to be scumbags and it backfired.


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Posted 11 February 2018 - 02:35 PM

I've known the facts of the "hot coffee" case for years. and you are right. The case does prove that the media does distort the facts for their own purposes. I'm glad you're admitting that media distortion is real.

Do you also believe tort reform was unnecessary?

 

Absolutely I know that the media get it wrong.  Media reports have always been considered the first draft of history.

 

The lesson from this story is not that the media distorts the facts for its own purposes - initial reporting was factual - but that  actors in the society actively exploit and spin some of the facts of the story to bolster their ideological approach.  That this story became the poster child for tort reform was based on a very biased retelling of the story by forces that were able to overwhelm the greater truth.

 

The real problem is there seems to be a failure to 'reality check' news.  I think of it kind of like washing clothes.  You have the clothes, they get dirty and who, what, why, when and how they got dirty is the news.  That news is 'washed out' in the wash cycle.  Then there is the spin cycle.  We're spending a lot more time on the spin cycle. 

 

for proof of that, think of how we're still spending any time on Hillary Clinton at all.

 

We actually need reality checks like the piece that started this topic to get our understanding of things back in perspective.  We'd all be better off with this kind of retrospective media on a more consistent basis.  Instead, we seem to be stuck in an endless spin cycle.

 

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 03:54 PM

 

Absolutely I know that the media get it wrong.  Media reports have always been considered the first draft of history.

 

The lesson from this story is not that the media distorts the facts for its own purposes - initial reporting was factual - but that  actors in the society actively exploit and spin some of the facts of the story to bolster their ideological approach.  That this story became the poster child for tort reform was based on a very biased retelling of the story by forces that were able to overwhelm the greater truth.

 

The real problem is there seems to be a failure to 'reality check' news.  I think of it kind of like washing clothes.  You have the clothes, they get dirty and who, what, why, when and how they got dirty is the news.  That news is 'washed out' in the wash cycle.  Then there is the spin cycle.  We're spending a lot more time on the spin cycle. 

 

for proof of that, think of how we're still spending any time on Hillary Clinton at all.

 

We actually need reality checks like the piece that started this topic to get our understanding of things back in perspective.  We'd all be better off with this kind of retrospective media on a more consistent basis.  Instead, we seem to be stuck in an endless spin cycle.

 

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Just DAMN!!!!

 

Did you take a sobriety pill this morning?  

 

This, coming from the biggest spin-meister around is just mind-boggling.  


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I guess you haven't been to Detroit recently?  Or, Newark or East St.Louis or Gary, IN, or Stockton, CA?

 

You know, those bastions of liberal Democrat government that have been so successful in attracting wealthy, educated leaders and businesspeople.  Progressive people,  who have uplifted the poorer of their brethren, so their city can be that bright example of how well Socialism works.


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 02:26 PM

Had McDonald's paid the medical costs, as she asked for, this wouldn't have happened. They made a calculated decision to be scumbags and it backfired.

Why are they scumbags? McDonald's used to brew their coffee at about 10 degrees higher than other restaurants. This was originally a recommendation from their coffee supplier because it supposedly enhanced the flavor transfer from the ground coffee. I'm not a coffee drinker, but many thought McDonald's had some of the best coffee around back then. So all they did different from other restaurants is to brew their coffee at 10 degrees higher. The Article mentions 30 degrees higher than home coffee makers, but that is not an apples to apples comparison.

I'm sure all of us feel terrible that the poor woman was burned. But she made a poor decision to put a cup of hot coffee between her legs, especially with the lid off or loose and with her wearing sweats. I suspect her age and the sweat pants holding the hot liquid on her skin made the burn worse. The McDonald's coffee cups have warnings all over than that the coffee is HOT HOT. Maybe I'm old school, but I was taught that when I do something stupid, it's shame on me.

So what did McDonald's do wrong? Why are they scumbags? Best I can see, the 10 degree higher brew temp is pretty much the only thing they did different from other restaurants. 10 degrees.


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