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#1 El Zorro

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Posted 19 October 2017 - 06:22 PM

I see Paulding is getting a new jail to replace the 25-year old jail.  http://www.mdjonline...eae1bf27fd.html

 

Now what to do with the old jail?  I would compare the cost of demolishing it to the cost of updating it.  It could be used in the future to lease out jail space to the US Marshall's Office.  They normally rent jail space from county's to house their detainees as they don't have their own.  The sheriff of the county I lived in in Michigan would do this and it made created a good deal of revenue from the US Marshals.  Jail space was also rented to the state for detainees serving no more than two-year sentences as well.  I think it would be worth looking into.  The money could be used to pay for the additional staff needed to operate it.


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Posted 19 October 2017 - 06:42 PM

Yeah, they should.

Many places including the city of Atlanta have been doing this for years.

The US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) rents from the city of Atlanta.

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Posted 19 October 2017 - 06:56 PM

Maybe it could be used as a rehabilitation center for addicts. Or a homeless shelter.
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Posted 19 October 2017 - 07:27 PM

Maybe it could be used as a rehabilitation center for addicts. Or a homeless shelter.

 

I love that you are so optimistic you think something like that could ever happen in a country ran by Republicans.  :wub:


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Posted 19 October 2017 - 07:34 PM

I love that you are so optimistic you think something like that could ever happen in a country ran by Republicans.  :wub:


I know it won't happen. I just wanted to present Something that would actually be helpful as opposed to EZ's plan to "jail them all".
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Posted 19 October 2017 - 07:40 PM

Maybe it could be used as a rehabilitation center for addicts. Or a homeless shelter.

How would you propose to fund it?


I know it won't happen. I just wanted to present Something that would actually be helpful as opposed to EZ's plan to "jail them all".

Where did I say "jail them all?"  The US Marshals, DEA, ICE, ATF, FBI all make arrests and need places to incarcerate their detainees as they don't have their own facilities.  Why not look at the possibility of using the old jail for this to generate more needed revenue for the county?


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Posted 19 October 2017 - 08:00 PM

Maybe it could be used as a rehabilitation center for addicts. Or a homeless shelter.


Man I hate to be the one to point this out, but it kinda already is.
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Posted 19 October 2017 - 08:41 PM

 

I love that you are so optimistic you think something like that could ever happen in a country ran by Republicans.  :wub:

 

Please stop! Why must you paint everyone with a broad brush? Why don't you lead the way....I'll be happy to help.



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Posted 19 October 2017 - 08:42 PM

Paulding is projected to have close to 300,000 residents in 10+ years, so what is going to happen when the new jail is full?
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Posted 19 October 2017 - 09:50 PM

Man I hate to be the one to point this out, but it kinda already is.

Only a place to house them--no treatment!! Then they can make more druggie friends and have more connections when they get out.


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Posted 19 October 2017 - 09:55 PM

 

Where did I say "jail them all?"  The US Marshals, DEA, ICE, ATF, FBI all make arrests and need places to incarcerate their detainees as they don't have their own facilities.  Why not look at the possibility of using the old jail for this to generate more needed revenue for the county?

 

What revenue, E Z, would be generated. Are you talking about revenue from tax paying citizens going to the county? 

 

Oh, I forgot, the jail and prison business is a big one, Here in the U.S.

 

Since we make so much profit from prisoners, in this country, we could have prisoners from places like Canada, and Mexico. Heck, we could even take Chinese prisoners, etc. etc. 

 

We like prisoners way better than the rest of the Worlds population. 

 

 


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Posted 19 October 2017 - 10:50 PM

Only a place to house them--no treatment!! Then they can make more druggie friends and have more connections when they get out.

Yeah, the first thing they do in treatment is dry you out. Treatments also a fine place to make more druggie connections.
On the upside, they put that fella that ran the Annawakee Treatment Center in prison for sodomy. Now there's a fine place to break that nasty habit.
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Posted 20 October 2017 - 08:41 AM

Only a place to house them--no treatment!! Then they can make more druggie friends and have more connections when they get out.

They also get schooled on the finer points of a life of crime in general.  Then they all get released and use that 'education' to prey on the public. 


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Posted 22 October 2017 - 10:09 PM

They also get schooled on the finer points of a life of crime in general.  Then they all get released and use that 'education' to prey on the public. 

 

 

Rehabilitation makes revenue increase. The rehabilitation system is working so well, in this country, that there is no wonder that the United States is number one in the prison business. The United States makes any other country look like amateurs in the prison business.   


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Posted 23 October 2017 - 06:23 AM

Rehabilitation makes revenue increase. The rehabilitation system is working so well, in this country, that there is no wonder that the United States is number one in the prison business. The United States makes any other country look like amateurs in the prison business.


You make a good agreement for us going back to the old chain gang system.
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Posted 23 October 2017 - 06:33 AM

I thought $85K/acre for the property seemed like a lot.


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Posted 23 October 2017 - 09:06 AM

I thought $85K/acre for the property seemed like a lot.


There's several websites where you can look at local Commercial property for sale. I spotted several similar tracks on back roads listed for considerably less per acre. I spotted several smaller parcels on 278 listed for much more per acre. Considering 1 person owned the connecting property the county needed, it seems to be a fair price to me.

I had a 4.33 acre track of land in SC in the 80's. I paid $17k total. A guy bought another 4.33 acres next to me for $17k. I had every intention of building a new home on my 4.33 acres. The guy beside me got sick and quickly sold his 4.33 acres for $16k. The new buyer came to me and wanted to buy my 4.33 acres so he could build his dream home on 8.66 acres. I thought about it and decided I would be happy with a new home or I would be just as happy selling to him for $38k before I broke ground on a new house. The new buyer next door thought I was an unreasonable jerk trying to make $21k off him. He bothered me for 6 months till I went up to $45k then I accepted his $38k offer.

That land is worth what the buyer will give and the seller will take. I wish now I had bought the land next to the Court House for $84k a acre and then I would have sold it to the county for $168k an acre.
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Posted 23 October 2017 - 06:52 PM

The county cannot pay more than fair market value for the property.  It's my understanding an independent appraisal was done, and the amount paid was less than the cost of the property purchased to build the Watson Complex originally. 


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Posted 24 October 2017 - 12:03 AM

Since other nations don't understand the potential of a thriving prison business why do we not consider the possibility of making room for the people who should be incarcerated from those countries? 

 

Our own prisoners are not enough to do all the work that can be created. 

 

See link

 

 

http://www.aljazeera...1082522072.html

 

 

 


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Posted 24 October 2017 - 07:36 PM

We do have a State Patrol office in the county but it is small. I think the current jail would make the perfect office for them.


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Posted 25 October 2017 - 03:10 PM

in the above linked MDJ story, ---   " Sheriff Gary Gulledge said the new jail is needed because the current, 200-bed jail’s design does not conform to state standards for detention facilities."

 

 

sooooo,     if it does not meet standards for the state of georgia,  then there is no way the feds will give the county a contract to house their inmates from the marshals service or ice......



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Posted 25 October 2017 - 03:24 PM

in the above linked MDJ story, ---   " Sheriff Gary Gulledge said the new jail is needed because the current, 200-bed jail’s design does not conform to state standards for detention facilities."

 

 

sooooo,     if it does not meet standards for the state of georgia,  then there is no way the feds will give the county a contract to house their inmates from the marshals service or ice......

SHHHHHHH!!!!@!!@ 

Once they empty it, they can spend a few million and roll the dice renovating. Don't give'em any ideas.


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Posted 25 October 2017 - 03:26 PM

in the above linked MDJ story, ---   " Sheriff Gary Gulledge said the new jail is needed because the current, 200-bed jail’s design does not conform to state standards for detention facilities."

 

 

sooooo,     if it does not meet standards for the state of georgia,  then there is no way the feds will give the county a contract to house their inmates from the marshals service or ice......

Of course you would have to make an investment into renovations, by looking into what the federal standards are since it would be federal prisoners they would be housing.


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Posted 25 October 2017 - 11:27 PM

I think an investment into broadening a system of government to allow for more than the federal prisoners normally housed in our prisons. Why pay to have illegal immigrants deported? Why not house them in federal prisons? After all, they violated our laws just by coming here. If we are not afraid of housing the vast number of prisoners we have now, why not go into a bigger prison business. Think of the revenue. Mexicans are good workers.     

 

Paulding County is a good place to start this endeavor. 


Edited by The Postman, 25 October 2017 - 11:31 PM.

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