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So you have forecasting skills above those of pundits? That's one thing I'd like to hear from you, mrshoward and El Zorro. What policies has Trump implemented and what bills have been passed that will have a negative/positive impact on the economy. How does Republican control of every branch of government (legislative, executive, judicial), contribute to your predictions?

 

What will be the next big failure due to Obama's policies? Don't wait until we go belly up and then point to it and say it's Obama's fault this is why... Right after the right wing noise machine gives you the talking points and tells you how to think. Look into your crystal ball and reveal the coming failures due to Obama despite the fact that the Republicans control all three branches of government.

 

I'll even start it off. Here's my prediction:

The market driven economy will once again plummet us into a great recession/depression as it always does under Republican administrations. Most notably, under Herbert Hoover and recently under George W. Bush.

 

The relaxing of environmental regulations will continue our string of natural disasters due to the effects of global warming, fracking and other man made influences on the environment. Then the "conservatives" will say it's not Trump's fault, the economy suffered due to "acts of god".

 

Trump will pit us in a war and become a war-time President. Possibly even to include a terrorist attack on US soil, once again under a Republican administration. Trump will use the war to concentrate power in the executive branch and distract from his failures as he "wags the dog."

 

I wouldn't even be surprised if after the terrorist attack on our soil, Trump claims the terrorists came across our border with Mexico, resulting in the construction of a wall to jump-start the economy and "keep us safe."

 

Trump will follow Dick Cheney's lead and become a true billionaire as his companies get no bid contracts similar to Halliburton. As a result of my foresight and investment in Trump's and other companies destined to receive no bid contracts, I become a millionaire too. Then I pull out of Trump's companies before they collapse. (To be honest, investing in Trump is a huge risk. I'll likely end up in the poor house.)

 

I have to admit, I laughed while reading this. He did bring up the uranium deal with Russia quite some time ago. He wasn't the only person to bring it up either.

 

It's also true that during the Obama administration, the EPA created environmental policies that had adverse economic affects on the manufacturing and energy industries that made little if any improvement to the environment. Coal being one of those.

 

You also act like there was not one single act of terrorism committed by Islamist extremists in this country during the Obama administration, which is also false.

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So you have forecasting skills above those of pundits? That's one thing I'd like to hear from you, mrshoward and El Zorro. What policies has Trump implemented and what bills have been passed that will have a negative/positive impact on the economy. How does Republican control of every branch of government (legislative, executive, judicial), contribute to your predictions?

 

What will be the next big failure due to Obama's policies? Don't wait until we go belly up and then point to it and say it's Obama's fault this is why... Right after the right wing noise machine gives you the talking points and tells you how to think. Look into your crystal ball and reveal the coming failures due to Obama despite the fact that the Republicans control all three branches of government.

 

I'll even start it off. Here's my prediction:

The market driven economy will once again plummet us into a great recession/depression as it always does under Republican administrations. Most notably, under Herbert Hoover and recently under George W. Bush.

 

The relaxing of environmental regulations will continue our string of natural disasters due to the effects of global warming, fracking and other man made influences on the environment. Then the "conservatives" will say it's not Trump's fault, the economy suffered due to "acts of god".

 

Trump will pit us in a war and become a war-time President. Possibly even to include a terrorist attack on US soil, once again under a Republican administration. Trump will use the war to concentrate power in the executive branch and distract from his failures as he "wags the dog."

 

I wouldn't even be surprised if after the terrorist attack on our soil, Trump claims the terrorists came across our border with Mexico, resulting in the construction of a wall to jump-start the economy and "keep us safe."

 

Trump will follow Dick Cheney's lead and become a true billionaire as his companies get no bid contracts similar to Halliburton. As a result of my foresight and investment in Trump's and other companies destined to receive no bid contracts, I become a millionaire too. Then I pull out of Trump's companies before they collapse. (To be honest, investing in Trump is a huge risk. I'll likely end up in the poor house.)

 

Do I have great forecasting skills? No, I just do my research instead of blindly accepting everything a political party tells me. It's really quite liberating; you guys should try it.

 

You only know part of the story regarding Haliburton...the part that the political left wants to know. If you want to be truly wise, you'll use whatever internet device you have to learn the rest of the story.

 

I could explain to you why the economy is only now rebounding, but you wouldn't understand. But to give you a hint about part of it; do some reading on venture capital under a business-friendly administration. Admittedly, it's pretty deep reading for someone with no understanding of economic in a capitalist economy. You also demonstrate your shallow understanding of economic when you blame crashes on whomever is in office at the time. Often, economic crises' start many years before, as was the case with the last one. I could elaborate, but your eyes would glaze over, and you'd still believe the propaganda from the Socialist left anyway.

 

While you're at it...read up on the truth about the environment. The left has been lying to us and feeding us junk science for many years. But there again...when you have no actual education in science and only accept what your party tells you; you won't get this either.

 

We're not going to war with North Korea. Though I would have been more tactful with the language than Trump has been; taking a tough stance is the right thing to do. It was the coddling of NK by previous administrations that put the little twerp in a position of power. But even with his new toys, we could swat the guy like a fly, and he knows that. He's just flexing his muscles to try and elevate his stature in the world. Most of the free world opposes him, so if there ever is a police action against NK (not war); it will likely be a United Nations response.

 

As for Obama's policies...most of them have been failures for years. Obamacare was one of the biggest job killers to ever hit our country. Coupled with the other excessive regulations from the O administration; venture capital has been largely non-existent until recently. Meaning...people and companies with big money have been sitting on it. Now that we have an administration that is more business friendly; the money is flowing and the economy is expanding. Of course...your response to this will be something along the lines of how business is evil and that's taking money out of your pocket. Well, we must have business to have non-government jobs, and no it isn't a zero sum game, so it doesn't take a penny from you. But you'll go on believing the politics of envy that the Socialist left spews anyway.

 

And for the gazillianth time...just because someone doesn't buy into your Socialist left propaganda, it doesn't mean that they are part of the other extreme of propaganda. It is truly tragic that so many of you cannot conceive the possibility of people who think with their own minds, do their own research, and form their own unique beliefs. I extend my hand to you to free yourself from the collective and join us in intellectual independence.

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I have to admit, I laughed while reading this. He did bring up the uranium deal with Russia quite some time ago. He wasn't the only person to bring it up either.

 

It's also true that during the Obama administration, the EPA created environmental policies that had adverse economic affects on the manufacturing and energy industries that made little if any improvement to the environment. Coal being one of those.

 

You also act like there was not one single act of terrorism committed by Islamist extremists in this country during the Obama administration, which is also false.

 

Once again you dodge the opportunity to forecast using your superior intellect. Then something will happen and you'll claim you knew it was coming all along. Only then I'll have to point out that you had an opportunity to share your insight and you declined.

 

If only you were have as smart as you profess to be...

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Do I have great forecasting skills? No, I just do my research instead of blindly accepting everything a political party tells me. It's really quite liberating; you guys should try it.

 

You only know part of the story regarding Haliburton...the part that the political left wants to know. If you want to be truly wise, you'll use whatever internet device you have to learn the rest of the story.

 

I could explain to you why the economy is only now rebounding, but you wouldn't understand. But to give you a hint about part of it; do some reading on venture capital under a business-friendly administration. Admittedly, it's pretty deep reading for someone with no understanding of economic in a capitalist economy. You also demonstrate your shallow understanding of economic when you blame crashes on whomever is in office at the time. Often, economic crises' start many years before, as was the case with the last one. I could elaborate, but your eyes would glaze over, and you'd still believe the propaganda from the Socialist left anyway.

 

While you're at it...read up on the truth about the environment. The left has been lying to us and feeding us junk science for many years. But there again...when you have no actual education in science and only accept what your party tells you; you won't get this either.

 

We're not going to war with North Korea. Though I would have been more tactful with the language than Trump has been; taking a tough stance is the right thing to do. It was the coddling of NK by previous administrations that put the little twerp in a position of power. But even with his new toys, we could swat the guy like a fly, and he knows that. He's just flexing his muscles to try and elevate his stature in the world. Most of the free world opposes him, so if there ever is a police action against NK (not war); it will likely be a United Nations response.

 

As for Obama's policies...most of them have been failures for years. Obamacare was one of the biggest job killers to ever hit our country. Coupled with the other excessive regulations from the O administration; venture capital has been largely non-existent until recently. Meaning...people and companies with big money have been sitting on it. Now that we have an administration that is more business friendly; the money is flowing and the economy is expanding. Of course...your response to this will be something along the lines of how business is evil and that's taking money out of your pocket. Well, we must have business to have non-government jobs, and no it isn't a zero sum game, so it doesn't take a penny from you. But you'll go on believing the politics of envy that the Socialist left spews anyway.

 

And for the gazillianth time...just because someone doesn't buy into your Socialist left propaganda, it doesn't mean that they are part of the other extreme of propaganda. It is truly tragic that so many of you cannot conceive the possibility of people who think with their own minds, do their own research, and form their own unique beliefs. I extend my hand to you to free yourself from the collective and join us in intellectual independence.

 

So in other words you'll take a pass as well. Just as an economic crisis may start years in advance, so do upticks. Which would explain why Trump had nothing to do with the current uptick though he will have everything to do with the downturn.

 

I'm asking you to explain the coming downturn before it happens since you have "superior economic understanding". Don't wait until the talking points come out and explain how the economic down turn started during the Obama Administration. As a matter of fact, with your crediting the current administration with causing economic prosperity, there can be no reversal as to how Obama caused a downturn. He isn't the President and all three branches of government are controlled by Republicans.

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So in other words you'll take a pass as well. Just as an economic crisis may start years in advance, so do upticks. Which would explain why Trump had nothing to do with the current uptick though he will have everything to do with the downturn.

 

I'm asking you to explain the coming downturn before it happens since you have "superior economic understanding". Don't wait until the talking points come out and explain how the economic down turn started during the Obama Administration. As a matter of fact, with your crediting the current administration with causing economic prosperity, there can be no reversal as to how Obama caused a downturn. He isn't the President and all three branches of government are controlled by Republicans.

Who told you there is a coming downturn?

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Who told you there is a coming downturn?

 

There is always a coming downturn; it is capitalism and 'coming downturns' are as certain as the sun rising.

 

The key question that anyone with any economic understanding knows is how severe will the coming downturn be? Will it be a soft landing or a hard crash.

 

What history tells us unequivocally is that we have had hard crashes in 1929, 1987 and 2008 and in each one of those crashes we were led into them by champions of 'free market economics' who eschewed regulation. Most of the other 'recessions' since 1932 have been moderated by social policies that have mitigated the 'collateral' damage as it is the capitalists, but also institutions (retirement accounts, mutual funds) that have suffered the bulk of the losses.

 

Despite the enormous losses by some individual capitalists, capitalists in general love crashes as it forces folks to divest often at great personal loss allowing the capitalists with 'capital' to gobble up increasingly large shares of the wealth as they play the market much like a gambling casino. Since they are accustomed to profiting from the misery of the masses, capitalists - these were the guys wanting say GM to fail because they could see their wealth growing as a result - like crashes. They say things like it helps renew and reinvigorate the markets.

 

but as to the question of who said a downturn is inevitable ... only political hacks would say otherwise.

 

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Only a fool attempts to predict the future...

 

8)

 

And about a year ago, the New York Times had Hillary as a 93% probability to win the White House. Damn Ruskies. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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There is always a coming downturn; it is capitalism and 'coming downturns' are as certain as the sun rising.

 

The key question that anyone with any economic understanding knows is how severe will the coming downturn be? Will it be a soft landing or a hard crash.

 

What history tells us unequivocally is that we have had hard crashes in 1929, 1987 and 2008 and in each one of those crashes we were led into them by champions of 'free market economics' who eschewed regulation. Most of the other 'recessions' since 1932 have been moderated by social policies that have mitigated the 'collateral' damage as it is the capitalists, but also institutions (retirement accounts, mutual funds) that have suffered the bulk of the losses.

 

Despite the enormous losses by some individual capitalists, capitalists in general love crashes as it forces folks to divest often at great personal loss allowing the capitalists with 'capital' to gobble up increasingly large shares of the wealth as they play the market much like a gambling casino. Since they are accustomed to profiting from the misery of the masses, capitalists - these were the guys wanting say GM to fail because they could see their wealth growing as a result - like crashes. They say things like it helps renew and reinvigorate the markets.

 

but as to the question of who said a downturn is inevitable ... only political hacks would say otherwise.

 

pubby

It sound's like you want a world where everything is equal for everyone.

I want a world where the one who is smartest and works the hardest wins.

I've been in touch with my broker and we are watching and taking advantages of the market.

Here's some data to smoke over...

The day Obama was elected the Dow was at about 8,750.

In Obama's first year the Dow went down to about 6,650 before things started turning.

The day Trump won the Dow was 18,590.

Today the market closed at 23,442.

The Dow rose about 9,850 or 100 points a month on average during Obama's 8 years.

The Dow has risen about 4,850 points or 440 points a month during Trump's 11 months.

 

I'm fine with saying Obama laid the foundation and Trump is taking advantage with all that's good.

I'm ready and prepared for a down turn because I take advantage of Dollar Cost Averaging. You touch on that, but when you say it, it sounds dirty. It's not that we love downturns, we plan and react to downturns.

 

You stay with your plan and I'll stay with mine (and my broker's).

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I wish the economy was the only thing to be concerned with. Unfortunately the danger of Trump does not stop there to ignore that, sweep it aside or pretend it does not exist not only shows how little you care for this country, it's institutions and its national security it may come about as close to treason as you can without stepping over the line.

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I wish the economy was the only thing to be concerned with. Unfortunately the danger of Trump does not stop there to ignore that, sweep it aside or pretend it does not exist not only shows how little you care for this country, it's institutions and its national security it may come about as close to treason as you can without stepping over the line.

 

I intended to reply to Pubby's post about the economy.

Treason towards a One World Order maybe.

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Actually, mojo ... IMHO, the one world order made great strides with the election of Donald Trump. The problem is I think he is seeking to usher in a one-world order with the criminal oligarchs calling the shots.

 

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Actually, mojo ... IMHO, the one world order made great strides with the election of Donald Trump. The problem is I think he is seeking to usher in a one-world order with the criminal oligarchs calling the shots.

 

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Pubby Wasn't it then President Obama in a speech in Greece putting President Elect Trump down for his "Nationism"? Edited by mojo413

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There is always a coming downturn; it is capitalism and 'coming downturns' are as certain as the sun rising.

 

The key question that anyone with any economic understanding knows is how severe will the coming downturn be? Will it be a soft landing or a hard crash.

 

What history tells us unequivocally is that we have had hard crashes in 1929, 1987 and 2008 and in each one of those crashes we were led into them by champions of 'free market economics' who eschewed regulation. Most of the other 'recessions' since 1932 have been moderated by social policies that have mitigated the 'collateral' damage as it is the capitalists, but also institutions (retirement accounts, mutual funds) that have suffered the bulk of the losses.

 

Despite the enormous losses by some individual capitalists, capitalists in general love crashes as it forces folks to divest often at great personal loss allowing the capitalists with 'capital' to gobble up increasingly large shares of the wealth as they play the market much like a gambling casino. Since they are accustomed to profiting from the misery of the masses, capitalists - these were the guys wanting say GM to fail because they could see their wealth growing as a result - like crashes. They say things like it helps renew and reinvigorate the markets.

 

but as to the question of who said a downturn is inevitable ... only political hacks would say otherwise.

 

pubby

The bigger question is when. Some of you on the left seem giddy at the thought of it happening on Trump's watch. Barring any unexpected catalyst, I don't see it happening for a few years anyway.

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Pubby Wasn't it then President Obama in a speech in Greece putting President Elect Trump down for his "Nationism"?

 

The form of nationalism espoused by Trump is very much like mobsters talking in Havana in 1959. Yep, I've got the rackets in Chicago, Milwaukee and South Bend; you get them in New York, Jersey, he's got them in Boston down to RI... except it is Vlad, you get Russia, Ukraine, Crimea, the little places like Latvia and Lithuania; we get it in north America and you can expand east and south and we'll expand east and south and the Chinese can play and expand south and we'll just fight over Africa like we have for the last 100 years.

 

The bigger question is when. Some of you on the left seem giddy at the thought of it happening on Trump's watch. Barring any unexpected catalyst, I don't see it happening for a few years anyway.

 

Are you nuts? We are in the worst possible political condition for a crash to happen and I hope and prey we muddle through this incompetent administration and actually have an election in 2018 and 2020. My biggest concern is that trump may pull some bone head act that will result in a crash before then.

 

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Are you nuts? We are in the worst possible political condition for a crash to happen and I hope and prey we muddle through this incompetent administration and actually have an election in 2018 and 2020. My biggest concern is that trump may pull some bone head act that will result in a crash before then.

 

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I think the better question is; are YOU nuts?

 

Step away from the Kool Aid.

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I think the better question is; are YOU nuts?

 

Step away from the Kool Aid.

 

It wouldn't be the first time a Republican was handed a robust economy and drove it into the crapper.

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It wouldn't be the first time a Republican was handed a robust economy and drove it into the crapper.

And again, you show your limited knowledge of economics.

 

It's just not that simple. Sometimes, the problem behind the crash starts years before. And other times, something unexpected like terrorist attacks and major hurricanes change things.

 

But please continue to believe the propaganda instead of the facts.

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And again, you show your limited knowledge of economics.

 

It's just not that simple. Sometimes, the problem behind the crash starts years before. And other times, something unexpected like terrorist attacks and major hurricanes change things.

 

But please continue to believe the propaganda instead of the facts.

I read a lot of business periodicals and they pretty much all same the same thing; the rapid rise in the stock market is due to investors having more confidence in domestic policies of this administration. What those on the left fail to realize is, investors are very hesitant to invest their money when they lack confidence in an administration's domestic polices and foreign policies.

 

The market has been especially great since his inauguration. It's more than just coincidence and it has nothing really to do with Obama (other than he's out of office). It's based upon what Trump said on the campaign trail and what he has done since being sworn in.

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You fellas need to pull your heads out of that elephants butt every now and then and take a look around.

 

9 OF LAST 10 ECONOMIC RECESSIONS UNDER REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTS SINCE 1953!

 

It is a fact of history that nine of the ten economic recessions since 1953, when Dwight D. Eisenhower became President, have come under Republican Presidents as follows:

July 1953 to May 1954–Eisenhower

August 1957 to April 1958–Eisenhower

April 1960 to February 1961–Eisenhower

December 1969 to November 1970–Nixon

November 1973 to March, with un 1975–Nixon/Ford

January 1980 to July 1980–Carter (Democrat)

July 1981-November 1982–Reagan

July 1990-March 1991—HW Bush

March 2001-November 2001–W Bush

December 2007-June 2009–W Bush/Obama–last five months under Democrat

http://www.theprogressiveprofessor.com/?p=26206

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I read a lot of business periodicals and they pretty much all same the same thing; the rapid rise in the stock market is due to investors having more confidence in domestic policies of this administration. What those on the left fail to realize is, investors are very hesitant to invest their money when they lack confidence in an administration's domestic polices and foreign policies.

 

The market has been especially great since his inauguration. It's more than just coincidence and it has nothing really to do with Obama (other than he's out of office). It's based upon what Trump said on the campaign trail and what he has done since being sworn in.

The market was artificially propped up during the Obama years by the government pouring borrowed money into it. That money flow stopped before Obama left office, and the market was headed for a monster crash if Hillary had won. It's the investor's confidence in a business-friendly Trump administration that sent it upward again, and this time with private funds.

 

What the loyal Democrats don't know is that any minor, and that's all they were, gains during the Obama administration were from pouring money into the economy that will have to be paid back. Hence the doubling of the national debt. While some deficit spending was probably needed right at the beginning; that could have been throttled back and private funding would have poured into the economy if not for the Obama administration that was so hostile toward business.

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You fellas need to pull your heads out of that elephants butt every now and then and take a look around.

 

9 OF LAST 10 ECONOMIC RECESSIONS UNDER REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTS SINCE 1953!

 

It is a fact of history that nine of the ten economic recessions since 1953, when Dwight D. Eisenhower became President, have come under Republican Presidents as follows:

July 1953 to May 1954–Eisenhower

August 1957 to April 1958–Eisenhower

April 1960 to February 1961–Eisenhower

December 1969 to November 1970–Nixon

November 1973 to March, with un 1975–Nixon/Ford

January 1980 to July 1980–Carter (Democrat)

July 1981-November 1982–Reagan

July 1990-March 1991—HW Bush

March 2001-November 2001–W Bush

December 2007-June 2009–W Bush/Obama–last five months under Democrat

http://www.theprogressiveprofessor.com/?p=26206

 

Oh, The Progressive Professor.

 

Very convenient of you, but not entirely true and certainly not telling the whole story. Fake News.

 

But your google search found something that appears to support your hatred, so that's all that matters to you.

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You fellas need to pull your heads out of that elephants butt every now and then and take a look around.

 

 

9 OF LAST 10 ECONOMIC RECESSIONS UNDER REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTS SINCE 1953!

 

It is a fact of history that nine of the ten economic recessions since 1953, when Dwight D. Eisenhower became President, have come under Republican Presidents as follows:

July 1953 to May 1954–Eisenhower

August 1957 to April 1958–Eisenhower

April 1960 to February 1961–Eisenhower

December 1969 to November 1970–Nixon

November 1973 to March, with un 1975–Nixon/Ford

January 1980 to July 1980–Carter (Democrat)

July 1981-November 1982–Reagan

July 1990-March 1991—HW Bush

March 2001-November 2001–W Bush

December 2007-June 2009–W Bush/Obama–last five months under Democrat

 

http://www.theprogressiveprofessor.com/?p=26206

Your data & $4.75 will buy you a cup of coffee at Starbucks.

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The market was artificially propped up during the Obama years by the government pouring borrowed money into it. That money flow stopped before Obama left office, and the market was headed for a monster crash if Hillary had won. It's the investor's confidence in a business-friendly Trump administration that sent it upward again, and this time with private funds.

 

What the loyal Democrats don't know is that any minor, and that's all they were, gains during the Obama administration were from pouring money into the economy that will have to be paid back. Hence the doubling of the national debt. While some deficit spending was probably needed right at the beginning; that could have been throttled back and private funding would have poured into the economy if not for the Obama administration that was so hostile toward business.

That's very true.

Oh, The Progressive Professor.

 

Very convenient of you, but not entirely true and certainly not telling the whole story. Fake News.

 

But your google search found something that appears to support your hatred, so that's all that matters to you.

It's hilarious that his information says a recession occurred during the Reagan administration, when in fact the recession occurred under the Carter administration. By the time the 1980 election was in full swing, we had double digit unemployment, double digit interest rates, and double digit inflation. It's the main reason Carter was a one-term president.

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That's very true.

It's hilarious that his information says a recession occurred during the Reagan administration, when in fact the recession occurred under the Carter administration. By the time the 1980 election was in full swing, we had double digit unemployment, double digit interest rates, and double digit inflation. It's the main reason Carter was a one-term president.

I'm sitting here chuckling at the utter ignorance that Cain is displaying. Can this guy even balance his own checkbook? Or at least when we used checkbooks...

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I'm sitting here chuckling at the utter ignorance that Cain is displaying. Can this guy even balance his own checkbook? Or at least when we used checkbooks...

I hear ya man, I hear ya.

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I'm sitting here chuckling at the utter ignorance that Cain is displaying. Can this guy even balance his own checkbook? Or at least when we used checkbooks...

 

Are you related to Donald Trump because it looks like you two were cut from the same cloth.

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Are you related to Donald Trump because it looks like you two were cut from the same cloth.

 

Did you think of that response all by yourself?

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Are you related to Donald Trump because it looks like you two were cut from the same cloth.

Well, I understand economics and have a beautiful wife, so could be.

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That's petty but... Okay, strike "everyone" and insert "a lot of people." That should be general enough for even you.

I was petty? I was merely saying to you, the same thing you said to me.

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I read a lot of business periodicals and they pretty much all same the same thing; the rapid rise in the stock market is due to investors having more confidence in domestic policies of this administration. What those on the left fail to realize is, investors are very hesitant to invest their money when they lack confidence in an administration's domestic polices and foreign policies.

 

The market has been especially great since his inauguration. It's more than just coincidence and it has nothing really to do with Obama (other than he's out of office). It's based upon what Trump said on the campaign trail and what he has done since being sworn in.

The left wingnuts don't "fail to realize"; they simply "ignore" any good news unless it comes from the Democrat mothership. Maybe TBAR or one of his borrowed identities will chime in.

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Once again you dodge the opportunity to forecast using your superior intellect. Then something will happen and you'll claim you knew it was coming all along. Only then I'll have to point out that you had an opportunity to share your insight and you declined.

 

If only you were have as smart as you profess to be...

Here's a forecast for you, just to make you happy. Hillary Clinton will attempt to run for president again in 2020, but most of the DNC will not support her because she is now toxic. She will fail once again.

The left wingnuts don't "fail to realize"; they simply "ignore" any good news unless it comes from the Democrat mothership. Maybe TBAR or one of his borrowed identities will chime in.

He already has.

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Here's a forecast for you, just to make you happy. Hillary Clinton will attempt to run for president again in 2020, but most of the DNC will not support her because she is now toxic. She will fail once again.

He already has.

It's good to know that's all you could come up with. Now when something happens and you regurgitate conservative talking points, you won't say how you saw it coming and had connected the dots long before the existence of the talking points.

 

Not that you have a way of recycling information and claiming the conclusions as your own.

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...... The problem is I think ......

 

 

pubby

 

By Jove! yer on to something there. :rofl:

 

Seriously. You. Are. Delusional. To the point of needing psychiatric treatment and heavy duty meds. :crazy:

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By Jove! yer on to something there. :rofl:

 

Seriously. You. Are. Delusional. To the point of needing psychiatric treatment and heavy duty meds. :crazy:

I'll save Pubby a bunch of money on doctors and meds. Every night from 7pm to midnight alternate watching CNN then FOX and switch every 5 minutes. Within a week you will find yourself thinking much clearer.

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It's good to know that's all you could come up with. Now when something happens and you regurgitate conservative talking points, you won't say how you saw it coming and had connected the dots long before the existence of the talking points.

 

Not that you have a way of recycling information and claiming the conclusions as your own.

I really don't think you have an idea how the economy really works. Have you ever taken any economic courses in college? I've taken several in both my undergraduate and graduate programs. There are many things that have an affect on both consumer and investor confidence. Believe it or not, what government policies the government or any of its agencies i.e. the EPA enact has a huge impact. Right now, both consumer and investor confidence is high based upon the policies of this administration. It's desire for tax reform that also includes a reduction in the corporate tax rate has investors' very confident. Do you understand?

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I really don't think you have an idea how the economy really works. Have you ever taken any economic courses in college? I've taken several in both my undergraduate and graduate programs. There are many things that have an affect on both consumer and investor confidence. Believe it or not, what government policies the government or any of its agencies i.e. the EPA enact has a huge impact. Right now, both consumer and investor confidence is high based upon the policies of this administration. It's desire for tax reform that also includes a reduction in the corporate tax rate has investors' very confident. Do you understand?

 

Consumer confidence is not based on the policies of this administration. If there is a direct connection between the two, you are welcome to show it to me.

 

Investor confidence is based upon laissez-faire capitalism from deregulation, all supported by this administration. We all know a lack of oversight due to deregulation is a ticking time bomb that leads to corruption and collapse.

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