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Puerto Rico begs for help while Trump tweets NFL

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So, throw up your hands and say there is nothing that can be done.

 

 

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What they want us to believe is the most powerful nation on earth cannot find a way to distribute food and water to an island that is 90 miles long and 30 miles wide.

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It is my opinion and belief that anyone who still continues to support Trump does so because of their party Allegiance. They are blinding themselves by subscribing to right wing news and essentially burying their heads in the sand. That's how I feel about it. I have never once searched out negative news to post about Trump. I mean, it's not like I would have to search very far. :D

 

I'm not sure if you're trying to insult me with your definition of a liberal by insinuating I don't have love and compassion for people, but it's kind of silly considering there are plenty of people who are conservatives that are compassionate and loving people. I guess they're liberals too.

 

If Trump was a Democrat I doubt you would be so willing to remain open-minded.

 

I, for one, continue to support DJT. Because of his agenda/platform.

 

I don't particularly care for his style and approach to unimportant matters, i.e.; the NFL kneelers. The so-far unsuccessful repeal of Obama Care and tax reform lays directly at the feet of McConnell and McCain and Paul. Things that Americans went to the polls to elect DJT to get accomplished.

 

When a mayor of some burgh in Puerto Rico is interviewed while standing in the middle of pallets of supplies and blames POTUS for not responding, it's obviously a political attack, not a legitimate complaint. And yet, the looney left goes bonkers because DJT directly calls out this mayor for her lies and stupidity.

 

If Maxine Waters and Sheila Jackson Lee and Nancy Pelosi are the mouthpieces for liberal "thought", then your side is in some serious trouble.

 

I recall that DJT contributed $1MM of his own money to the Houston hurricane recovery. I think HRC tweeted some nonsense.

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I, for one, continue to support DJT. Because of his agenda/platform.

 

I don't particularly care for his style and approach to unimportant matters, i.e.; the NFL kneelers. The so-far unsuccessful repeal of Obama Care and tax reform lays directly at the feet of McConnell and McCain and Paul. Things that Americans went to the polls to elect DJT to get accomplished.

 

When a mayor of some burgh in Puerto Rico is interviewed while standing in the middle of pallets of supplies and blames POTUS for not responding, it's obviously a political attack, not a legitimate complaint. And yet, the looney left goes bonkers because DJT directly calls out this mayor for her lies and stupidity.

 

If Maxine Waters and Sheila Jackson Lee and Nancy Pelosi are the mouthpieces for liberal "thought", then your side is in some serious trouble.

 

I recall that DJT contributed $1MM of his own money to the Houston hurricane recovery. I think HRC tweeted some nonsense.

All the while, the governor of Puerto Rico gives different accounts than that of the San Juan mayor of how the federal government is responding.

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What they want us to believe is the most powerful nation on earth cannot find a way to distribute food and water to an island that is 90 miles long and 30 miles wide.

Impassable roads and truck drivers not showing up will make it difficult to deliver supplies. Perhaps you should listen to what the PR's governor has to say rather than the San Juan mayor who claims she has been spending her time picking up dead bodies.

 

BTW, it was obvious she had food supplies in her city as they could be seen behind her when she gave her press conference stating supplies were not being received. She must be dumb as a rock if she can't figure out how to establish distribution centers within her own city.

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Impassable roads and truck drivers not showing up will make it difficult to deliver supplies. Perhaps you should listen to what the PR's governor has to say rather than the San Juan mayor who claims she has been spending her time picking up dead bodies.

 

BTW, it was obvious she had food supplies in her city as they could be seen behind her when she gave her press conference stating supplies were not being received. She must be dumb as a rock if she can't figure out how to establish distribution centers within her own city.

 

Fits right into the group with Maxine Waters, et al. I don't believe I have ever met a liberal woman that had a lick of common sense.

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You would be much more credible if you'd spend less time telling everyone what they are really thinking.

 

I actually have a great respect for genuine liberals. Not partisans, but real liberals who are driven by genuine love and compassion for their fellow man. Their shortfall is that they often often think only with their hearts and not enough with their heads, which often makes their well-intended solutions problematic. The best example of that is Socialism. It's a grand and well intended concept from the heart, but it fails when real-life consequences are introduced.

 

Most Democratic partisans are not genuine liberals, but propaganda filled individuals who march to the drumbeat of their party. To be fair; loyal GOP partisans are just as bad. I know because I was once one. I have come to be disgusted by partisan sheeple from both sides.

 

 

 

You sure could!

 

I think if you look at most of the folks I quote in criticism of Trump, you'd find names like David Frum (GWB speechwriter responsible for Axis of Evil quote.), Ohio gov. John Kasich, GOP Senators John McCain, Bob Corker and Rand Paul ... and others you would, in your failure to grasp reality you claim are democrats.

 

To tie criticism of Trump solely to partisanship is simply inaccurate. It is Bob Corker, chairman of the Sen. Foreign Relations Committee that says that Trump is not mentally suited for office. His absurd tweets this morning regarding Secy. Tillerson seeking to have backchannel talks with N. Korea saying it is a waste of time is just the latest example of his incompetence. This headline is from one hour ago after Corker's appearance on Meet the Press.

 

 

You would be much more credible if you'd spend less time telling everyone what they are really thinking. You would also be much, much, much more credible if you had even a rudimentary grasp of history.

 

I did say earlier in this thread that the number of deaths in Puerto Rico would be a critical measure. Trump tweeted that the 16 reported deaths there was evidence of how great a job they'd done. (Of course there was little aid available at that time because of the big water.) I had not heard any number when I made the initial ratios. Apparently Puerto Ricans know how to ride out a hurricane so, instead of starting out with 40-50 initial deaths directly from the storm ... the measure of incompetence would tend to kick in somewhere around 30 deaths instead of 100.

 

And, since General Russell Honore is presumably someone experienced in this kind of operation - he was responsible for pulling things together for GWB after they disintegrated after Katrina - his comments have the kind of credibility we should honoe.

 

 

Retired Lt. General Russel Honoré, who oversaw the U.S. military response to Hurricane Katrina, fired back at President Trump over his early morning tweets attacking Puerto Rican leaders.

“The mayor’s living on a cot, and I hope the president has a good day at golf,” Honoré said in an appearance on CNN.

The former lieutenant general said Trump needs to give Lt. General Jeff Buchanan, who is overseeing the U.S. military response to the crisis in Puerto Rico, “anything he thinks he wants.”

“[Trump should] order the NORTHCOM commander to be on scene. She has the order to give Gen. Buchanan anything he needs, and that’s what’s needed right now,” Honoré said. “We need more boots on the ground to help kick-start the system.” Buchanan said Friday that there weren’t enough troops or equipment for the Puerto Rico recovery efforts but more would soon be sent.

Honoré said earlier this week that Trump’s White House should have done more to prepare for Hurricane Maria.

I pulled this quote from Honore out because when I made my suggestion that resources should have been staged (out of harms way obviously) was a criticism he shares with me.

"It’s kind of like Katrina: We got it. We got it. Oh, sh--, send in the cavalry," he told Bloomberg in an interview.

 

Trump is at his New Jersey golf club for the weekend

 

I suppose you folks who think everything is going on great aren't concerned because your President - he's made it abundantly clear he is the president of his base and his base only - is so perfect that if necessary, he could carry stuff there himself despite the 'big water' because, don't you know, he walks on it.

 

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I think if you look at most of the folks I quote in criticism of Trump,

 

 

Have to ask...have you ever had an original thought? Spewing "quotes" from obscure/unknown dissenting sources" doesn't prove anything. Other than to further your fake news agenda.

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Have to ask...have you ever had an original thought? Spewing "quotes" from obscure/unknown dissenting sources" doesn't prove anything. Other than to further your fake news agenda.

 

Obviously my comments were waaaay over your head. As far as obscure; you do know that Kasich was head of ways and means under Gingrich was instrumental in not only the welfare reform during Clinton's administration but in balancing the budget in that era. He, along with Rand Paul, were both among those seeking the GOP nomination for president in 2016. And Corker is chairman of the senate foreign relations committee dumb ass and is so obscure that he was the lead guest on Meet The Press today.

 

 

With the exception of Rand Paul... the rest are all part of the problem... entrenched swamp creatures.

 

 

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That is an unbelievable slander of some of the most honest, committed and respected Republican leaders in the nation.

 

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That is an unbelievable slander of some of the most honest, committed and respected Republican leaders in the nation.

 

pubby

 

 

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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Obviously my comments were waaaay over your head. As far as obscure; you do know that Kasich was head of ways and means under Gingrich was instrumental in not only the welfare reform during Clinton's administration but in balancing the budget in that era. He, along with Rand Paul, were both among those seeking the GOP nomination for president in 2016. And Corker is chairman of the senate foreign relations committee dumb ass and is so obscure that he was the lead guest on Meet The Press today.

 

 

 

That is an unbelievable slander of some of the most honest, committed and respected Republican leaders in the nation.

 

pubby

 

Ah...the effete liberal superiority gene shows it's head. Anybody who disagrees with a liberal is just too stupid to understand, eh?

 

And, if I were to have called YOU a "dumb ass", I'm pretty sure the mods would have swept in by now. But, if it weren't for double standards, you'd have none at all.

 

Those "honest, committed and respected Republican leaders" are certainly the darlings of the left-wing. I don't know a single conservative that respects McConnell, McCain, Paul, Kasich, or Corker.

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Here's where Trump spent the past 10 days as Puerto Rico collapsed

 

 

1. Flying to his golf club

 

2. Having dinner at the club to talk about an immigration ban

 

3. Campaigning for Luther Strange in Alabama

 

4. Tweeting at the club about the NFL

 

5. At the White House, complaining about John McCain

 

6. Campaigning for tax cuts for the 1% in Indiana

 

As of now, President is at the Bedminster Golf Course in New Jersey. This is his 66th trip to a golf course as President.

 

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/apos-where-trump-spent-past-192524760.html

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With the exception of Rand Paul... the rest are all part of the problem... entrenched swamp creatures.

 

 

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^^This^^

 

The GOP establishment is pretty much as rotten as the Democrats are. They have all failed us.

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^^This^^

 

The GOP establishment is pretty much as rotten as the Democrats are. They have all failed us.

 

 

Yes, GD! I am a supporter of the Grand Older Party, (the Lincoln Republican Party). Today's parties are screwed up, due to the lacks of Trump.

 

 

 

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Yes, GD! I am a supporter of the Grand Older Party, (the Lincoln Republican Party). Today's parties are screwed up, due to the lacks of Trump.

 

 

 

The parties being screwed up is not because of Trump; Trump is because of the parties being screwed up.

 

That's why we were left with a choice of Hillary and Trump.

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The parties being screwed up is not because of Trump; Trump is because of the parties being screwed up.

 

That's why we were left with a choice of Hillary and Trump.

 

I agree we had less than optimal choices but Hillary was closest to the status quo and Trump was just off the rails IMO. 

 

Here is a discussion or maybe description of the situation that I basically accept.  Robert Reich talks about the position of Cong. David Bratt and how his and even Bernie Sanders diagnosis of what is wrong is quite similar.

 

 

 

One of the things that those on the right do is assume that everyone who is not a trump voter accepts without question the status quo in the way our nation is run.  Not so.  Where we differ is no so much that McConnell or Ryan are bought and paid for - we all agree on that - but on whether a government that was just drowned in the bathtub and a population further impoverished by the policies these clowns have wrought - or the clowns like the Kochs or Mercers may reak - will be able to police the emerging robber barons.

 

Where we differ is in the way that I think you want to see society organized - i.e. one that on behalf of the robber barons and their favored dividers - robber barons have used issues like race and religion to keep the population divided and fighting with each other for a good part of our 240 years as a nation - plan to use the big state with big data to keep us divided and at each others throats.

 

Personally I think we need to do a bunch of trust busting and get control over the influx of big, big money in politics and that is not going to happen when at the same time the republican congress is worried about who is in what bathroom, who is kneeling during the anthem or what is going on in the bedroom - which sums up the social agenda of the right.

 

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The deck is stacked, Pubby, but we continue to play the card game while authorities deal us the cards. Money goes to the top like playing the state lotteries. It's rigged all the way around the table.

 

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I agree we had less than optimal choices but Hillary was closest to the status quo and Trump was just off the rails IMO.

 

Here is a discussion or maybe description of the situation that I basically accept. Robert Reich talks about the position of Cong. David Bratt and how his and even Bernie Sanders diagnosis of what is wrong is quite similar.

 

 

 

One of the things that those on the right do is assume that everyone who is not a trump voter accepts without question the status quo in the way our nation is run. Not so. Where we differ is no so much that McConnell or Ryan are bought and paid for - we all agree on that - but on whether a government that was just drowned in the bathtub and a population further impoverished by the policies these clowns have wrought - or the clowns like the Kochs or Mercers may reak - will be able to police the emerging robber barons.

 

Where we differ is in the way that I think you want to see society organized - i.e. one that on behalf of the robber barons and their favored dividers - robber barons have used issues like race and religion to keep the population divided and fighting with each other for a good part of our 240 years as a nation - plan to use the big state with big data to keep us divided and at each others throats.

 

Personally I think we need to do a bunch of trust busting and get control over the influx of big, big money in politics and that is not going to happen when at the same time the republican congress is worried about who is in what bathroom, who is kneeling during the anthem or what is going on in the bedroom - which sums up the social agenda of the right.

 

pubby

Quoting Robert Reich says plenty about you. And not good things.

 

 

This country needs some "off the rails". Both parties are corrupt and they serve a master or masters who is not the American people.

 

Trump identified a lot of the areas where the American people have had enough, and that's part of what put him in office. Just wish he'd learn some tact and poise.

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Trump identified a lot of the areas where the American people have had enough, and that's part of what put him in office. Just wish he'd learn some tact and poise.

 

Trump's big epiphany last week was Puerto Rico is an island and islands are surrounded by water, "big ocean water" . Trump needs a lot more than a little poise and tact, the idiot needs a brain.

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Trump's big epiphany last week was Puerto Rico is an island and islands are surrounded by water, "big ocean water" . Trump needs a lot more than a little poise and tact, the idiot needs a brain.

Repeatedly calling someone who is super rich and has built a conglomerate of over 500 companies, is married to a gorgeous woman half his age, and became POTUS with no prior political experience an idiot doesn't say much for your own intellect.

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Repeatedly calling someone who is super rich and has built a conglomerate of over 500 companies, is married to a gorgeous woman half his age, and became POTUS with no prior political experience an idiot doesn't say much for your own intellect.

 

 

Super rich reminds me of Genghis Kahn. But he had a lack of empathy for common people, much like Trump.

 

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Repeatedly calling someone who is super rich and has built a conglomerate of over 500 companies, is married to a gorgeous woman half his age, and became POTUS with no prior political experience an idiot doesn't say much for your own intellect.

 

I think you're too impressed by wealth and power. You know that Vladimir Putin is 20 times richer than Trump and has his finger on as many nukes as Trump; you must love him because of his money.

 

pubby

 

PS: It was opined that had Trump simply taken his inheritance back in the 1980s and invested the money in a trust, he would have been worth twice as much as his is now. My guess is he'd have had more sex as well - although that is debatable.

 

PPS: You need to get some polarizing sunglasses; the reflection of the sun off of Trump's gold-leaf furniture and fixtures has blinded you to truth; really.

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I think you're too impressed by wealth and power. You know that Vladimir Putin is 20 times richer than Trump and has his finger on as many nukes as Trump; you must love him because of his money.

 

pubby

 

PS: It was opined that had Trump simply taken his inheritance back in the 1980s and invested the money in a trust, he would have been worth twice as much as his is now. My guess is he'd have had more sex as well - although that is debatable.

 

PPS: You need to get some polarizing sunglasses; the reflection of the sun off of Trump's gold-leaf furniture and fixtures has blinded you to truth; really.

The point was that a person doesn't attain such accomplishments by being an idiot. But you're free to continue to hate.

 

I didn't mention sex.

 

Your understanding of investments is extremely poor, and you failed to factor in all the people, including his children, who have become very wealthy in his wake.

 

Then you make such a ridiculous statement and dare to lecture me on truth and reality?

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The last I read was that Puerto Rico has been sent the supplies, however 20% of their truck drivers have failed to report to distribute the supplies.

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Pubby, whenever I read your posts I feel like Rep. Hank Johnson may be sitting beside you at the computer, telling you what to type.

Wonder if pubby thinks Puerto Rico will tip over?

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The point was that a person doesn't attain such accomplishments by being an idiot. But you're free to continue to hate.

 

I didn't mention sex.

 

Your understanding of investments is extremely poor, and you failed to factor in all the people, including his children, who have become very wealthy in his wake.

 

Then you make such a ridiculous statement and dare to lecture me on truth and reality?

 

 

How much money do you have, G D? Do you own two airplanes, and a bunch of guns, like the Los Vegas shooter did?

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Wonder if pubby thinks Puerto Rico will tip over?

 

Well what you may not know PR is an island "This is an island surrounded by water. Big water. Ocean water.”

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The point was that a person doesn't attain such accomplishments by being an idiot. But you're free to continue to hate.

 

I didn't mention sex.

 

Your understanding of investments is extremely poor, and you failed to factor in all the people, including his children, who have become very wealthy in his wake.

 

Then you make such a ridiculous statement and dare to lecture me on truth and reality?

Bla, bla, bla ...

 

I'll note that until Trump ran for president, he lived in Manhattan in NYC. He moved there from Queens.

 

These are the people who know him best. They've known him for years and, since I recall folks making the point in 2000 that Al Gore didn't even take his home state and that was a telling reason to reject him, I'll simply present the 2016 vote totals for Manhattan and Queens.

 

trumpqueens.jpgtrumpmanhattan4.jpg

 

These are the folks who know him as a con man, liar, cheat who threatens to sue rather than pay, who dealt with the mob for advantage. These were also the people who avoided his casinos in Atlantic City because they just didn't like the idiot. You should have listened to them as should have all Americans.

 

BTW, that is truth and reality.

 

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Bla, bla, bla ...

 

I'll note that until Trump ran for president, he lived in Manhattan in NYC. He moved there from Queens.

 

These are the people who know him best. They've known him for years and, since I recall folks making the point in 2000 that Al Gore didn't even take his home state and that was a telling reason to reject him, I'll simply present the 2016 vote totals for Manhattan and Queens.

 

attachicon.giftrumpqueens.jpgattachicon.giftrumpmanhattan4.jpg

 

These are the folks who know him as a con man, liar, cheat who threatens to sue rather than pay, who dealt with the mob for advantage. These were also the people who avoided his casinos in Atlantic City because they just didn't like the idiot. You should have listened to them as should have all Americans.

 

BTW, that is truth and reality.

 

pubby

People in NYC to include Queens and Manhattan have a history of supporting Democratic candidates. Your stats mean jack squat.

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Repeatedly calling someone who is super rich and has built a conglomerate of over 500 companies, is married to a gorgeous woman half his age, and became POTUS with no prior political experience an idiot doesn't say much for your own intellect.

 

Hugh Hefner got rich had a bunch of young wives, didn't screw everyone that worked for him, probably had more character than Donnie dotard but I wouldn't want him president either.

 

But I'll give Donnie his due Hugh never claimed to be a war hero......

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ1qHiR2nic

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Bla, bla, bla ...

 

I'll note that until Trump ran for president, he lived in Manhattan in NYC. He moved there from Queens.

 

These are the people who know him best. They've known him for years and, since I recall folks making the point in 2000 that Al Gore didn't even take his home state and that was a telling reason to reject him, I'll simply present the 2016 vote totals for Manhattan and Queens.

 

attachicon.giftrumpqueens.jpgattachicon.giftrumpmanhattan4.jpg

 

These are the folks who know him as a con man, liar, cheat who threatens to sue rather than pay, who dealt with the mob for advantage. These were also the people who avoided his casinos in Atlantic City because they just didn't like the idiot. You should have listened to them as should have all Americans.

 

BTW, that is truth and reality.

 

pubby

Well hell, even you could probably win an election in an area where Cain, RM, TP, COWA, and TBAR (and all his alter egos) lived.

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Well hell, even you could probably win an election in an area where Cain, RM, TP, COWA, and TBAR (and all his alter egos) lived.

 

 

You and E Z are so conservative, G D, you think money is made out of angel dust. You think the 1% who has most of the money is angels, and you love it when a little dust blows your way. You can wallow in such a small amount that the conservative in you glitters your face with it. If only you had enough of it to glitter your whole body with. :pardon:

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