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#41 Newbie in New Hope

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Posted 16 March 2017 - 12:20 PM

Great points Pubby, LPPT, mojo and Glassdogs.

 

I thought the same thing when I saw the video.  How the Chicken World 4 is selectively outraged at keeping the promises their worshippers like, but don't care about the promises that they don't.

 

We are hell bent on keeping a verbal promise made by Chairman Shearin, but not ok with keeping a written, legal promise (contract).  The hypocrisy of this made me think that maybe a reality show was being filmed to see who could possibly be gullible enough to fall for this, but then the applause reminded me.

Crafting your responses around hopeful applause lines from your worshippers makes you a great activist, but a terrible legislator.

 

Of the guys up there I know, they seem like good, decent men (on both sides of this issue).  I would defend them more if they could present to anyone ANYTHING that they have done in the past 2 years to help attract businesses with good paying jobs to Paulding.

 

The above comment about the housing industry is very thought provoking, and may be the "new normal" that we need to all accept.  That there is no plan for growth other than homes, low end retail, thrift shops and fast food.   When the forthcoming higher taxes on the homes push the lower income folks out of the county, then who is going to work in all these businesses?

 

Great debate on both sides.


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Posted 16 March 2017 - 01:04 PM

 

You mean I should start calling you 'comrade' and change my opinion of Putin from a crooked kleptocrat to savior of the western world because of his staunch support for white people against the Muslim throngs?

 

 

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Do you have a problem with that concept?


Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist".

 

 

I guess you haven't been to Detroit recently?  Or, Newark or East St.Louis or Gary, IN, or Stockton, CA?

 

You know, those bastions of liberal Democrat government that have been so successful in attracting wealthy, educated leaders and businesspeople.  Progressive people,  who have uplifted the poorer of their brethren, so their city can be that bright example of how well Socialism works.


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Posted 16 March 2017 - 01:07 PM

I've come to the realization the issue is not the AIRPORT. The real issue is POWER. Power to control the county budget, power over every board, power over how every dollar of taxpayer money is spent. And the enemy is not the 5 Commissioners or those at the state level or federal levels. The enemy is those who are whispering in the elected offical's ears when no one is looking. I do not think any of our elected offical's are intentionally evil. But I think they would do much better if they were to build walls around themselves and block out those who are evil and whispering in their ears.

Especially the pillow talk variety.... :angel:



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Posted 16 March 2017 - 02:05 PM

 

Do you have a problem with that concept?

 

The concept, dogs, is genocide which has many stages.  The first stage is fostering indiscriminate hatred and distrust. 

 

Take this quote from a link in another topic:

 

 

“The white nationalist posters found on college campuses, including our own, contain detestable language that is an affront to who we are, and what we stand for, as the State’s flagship university,” University of Maryland President Wallace D. Loh said in a statement Tuesday. “As a community, we stand for excellence, diversity, and inclusion. We stand against all forms of ignorance and hate.”

 

I stand against all forms of ignorance and hate all the time everywhere I see it.  Being uneducated is a condition; being a bigot is a character flaw.

 

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Posted 16 March 2017 - 02:05 PM

Especially the pillow talk variety.... :angel:


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Posted 16 March 2017 - 02:57 PM

 

The concept, dogs, is genocide which has many stages.  The first stage is fostering indiscriminate hatred and distrust. 

 

Take this quote from a link in another topic:

 

 

I stand against all forms of ignorance and hate all the time everywhere I see it.  Being uneducated is a condition; being a bigot is a character flaw.

 

pubby

 

Then,  I'd strongly suggest you "educate" yourself about the hatred fomented by those who believe the teachings of the Koran.   


Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist".

 

 

I guess you haven't been to Detroit recently?  Or, Newark or East St.Louis or Gary, IN, or Stockton, CA?

 

You know, those bastions of liberal Democrat government that have been so successful in attracting wealthy, educated leaders and businesspeople.  Progressive people,  who have uplifted the poorer of their brethren, so their city can be that bright example of how well Socialism works.


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Posted 16 March 2017 - 03:28 PM

Long ago I discovered that my power is at its peak when it is determining what I do, what I think and defining who I am.

 

We are all going to die, dogs ... and despite the obvious failings and hatred others ... I choose not to die with hate eating at me, in me or around me.

 

There are others ways other than hatred, bigotry to address the hatred and bigotry of others.  If you wish to accept their example as your guiding light; go for it I guess, but I think we all know there are more uplifting, spiritual examples to follow including those who counseled turning one's cheek and heaping gifts upon our enemies.

 

I hear you now wondering where I got that but I'll only say, if you don't know ....

 

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Posted 16 March 2017 - 04:15 PM

Long ago I discovered that my power is at its peak when it is determining what I do, what I think and defining who I am.

 

We are all going to die, dogs ... and despite the obvious failings and hatred others ... I choose not to die with hate eating at me, in me or around me.

 

There are others ways other than hatred, bigotry to address the hatred and bigotry of others.  If you wish to accept their example as your guiding light; go for it I guess, but I think we all know there are more uplifting, spiritual examples to follow including those who counseled turning one's cheek and heaping gifts upon our enemies.

 

I hear you now wondering where I got that but I'll only say, if you don't know ....

 

pubby

 

And the same guy who taught you (us) to turn the other cheek also took a whip to the money changers in the Temple.  


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Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist".

 

 

I guess you haven't been to Detroit recently?  Or, Newark or East St.Louis or Gary, IN, or Stockton, CA?

 

You know, those bastions of liberal Democrat government that have been so successful in attracting wealthy, educated leaders and businesspeople.  Progressive people,  who have uplifted the poorer of their brethren, so their city can be that bright example of how well Socialism works.


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Posted 16 March 2017 - 05:41 PM

Great points Pubby, LPPT, mojo and Glassdogs.

 

I thought the same thing when I saw the video.  How the Chicken World 4 is selectively outraged at keeping the promises their worshippers like, but don't care about the promises that they don't.

 

We are hell bent on keeping a verbal promise made by Chairman Shearin, but not ok with keeping a written, legal promise (contract).  The hypocrisy of this made me think that maybe a reality show was being filmed to see who could possibly be gullible enough to fall for this, but then the applause reminded me.

Crafting your responses around hopeful applause lines from your worshippers makes you a great activist, but a terrible legislator.

 

Of the guys up there I know, they seem like good, decent men (on both sides of this issue).  I would defend them more if they could present to anyone ANYTHING that they have done in the past 2 years to help attract businesses with good paying jobs to Paulding.

 

The above comment about the housing industry is very thought provoking, and may be the "new normal" that we need to all accept.  That there is no plan for growth other than homes, low end retail, thrift shops and fast food.   When the forthcoming higher taxes on the homes push the lower income folks out of the county, then who is going to work in all these businesses?

 

Great debate on both sides.

There will be no problem with housing. There are grants out there to assist in the building of low rent and subsidized housing. We have a lot of areas that qualify for it. I just think everything should be up front.

 

The counties around us are seeing huge investment. We are not, there has to be a reason for it. My guess is we don't appear to have our cheeze together. Unless things have changed we are looked at by every company coming into the metro area. We are passed over by a lot. They don't go straight to one area and build there, they look around and ask questions.  It may be that we have taken the bedroom community so far that we can't get tax relief from large industries.

I guess it comes down to if you value a quiet bedroom community enough to pay the higher taxes and many do.


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As far as releasing my name here, it's not going to happen.  There have been people here who found someone's given name and then found where they worked and made things difficult for them - all because they didn't like them here because of their political opinions.

 


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Posted 16 March 2017 - 09:48 PM

There will be no problem with housing. There are grants out there to assist in the building of low rent and subsidized housing. We have a lot of areas that qualify for it. I just think everything should be up front.

 

The counties around us are seeing huge investment. We are not, there has to be a reason for it. My guess is we don't appear to have our cheeze together. Unless things have changed we are looked at by every company coming into the metro area. We are passed over by a lot. They don't go straight to one area and build there, they look around and ask questions.  It may be that we have taken the bedroom community so far that we can't get tax relief from large industries.

I guess it comes down to if you value a quiet bedroom community enough to pay the higher taxes and many do.

 

Could it be that our politicians have simply sold-out to moneyed interests in other counties who have an agenda of keeping this county out of game?

 

One might make that argument by simply pointing out that the CW4 refuse - and for no apparent reason - to ascent to the nomination of Harold Linnenkohl, former head of the Georgia DOT, whom Chairman Carmichael has nominated to the IBA.  They won't do it because they want to control the IBA and PCAA and they don't figure they can control him.

 

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Posted 16 March 2017 - 09:57 PM

"and they don't figure they can control him.

 

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And they would be absolutely correct about that.


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Posted 16 March 2017 - 10:03 PM

 

Could it be that our politicians have simply sold-out to moneyed interests in other counties who have an agenda of keeping this county out of game?

 

One might make that argument by simply pointing out that the CW4 refuse - and for no apparent reason - to ascent to the nomination of Harold Linnenkohl, former head of the Georgia DOT, whom Chairman Carmichael has nominated to the IBA.  They won't do it because they want to control the IBA and PCAA and they don't figure they can control him.

 

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To speculate that the CW4 are "on the take" would then mean that they are smart enough to actually negotiate a deal.   I'd really like to know who their puppetmaster is. 


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Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist".

 

 

I guess you haven't been to Detroit recently?  Or, Newark or East St.Louis or Gary, IN, or Stockton, CA?

 

You know, those bastions of liberal Democrat government that have been so successful in attracting wealthy, educated leaders and businesspeople.  Progressive people,  who have uplifted the poorer of their brethren, so their city can be that bright example of how well Socialism works.


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Posted 16 March 2017 - 10:09 PM

Could it be that our politicians have simply sold-out to moneyed interests in other counties who have an agenda of keeping this county out of game?
 
One might make that argument by simply pointing out that the CW4 refuse - and for no apparent reason - to ascent to the nomination of Harold Linnenkohl, former head of the Georgia DOT, whom Chairman Carmichael has nominated to the IBA.  They won't do it because they want to control the IBA and PCAA and they don't figure they can control him.
 
pubby

I'm sending an email to my commissioner with a copy to Carmichael. If others would like to do the same, here is the website that lists their emails and phone numbers.



Oops, sorry wrong address, here the correct one.

http://www.paulding....tory.aspx?did=5
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Posted 16 March 2017 - 10:29 PM

 

To speculate that the CW4 are "on the take" would then mean that they are smart enough to actually negotiate a deal.   I'd really like to know who their puppetmaster is. 

 

 

I didn't say they were 'on the take.'  I would suggest they've been mentally co-opted to a train of thought that benefited from superior political strategy that helped them get elected and now they've got their job, will enable them to keep their job by aligning with the political machine that outside money interests legally built in the county.

 

While I would not assert any of these guys are on the take, I've seen enough in my time to remain vigilant to the possibility.  I.e. if you put me on the stand I would not swear to anything other than I don't know and that my level of surprise and disappointment would vary dramatically if any were on the take.  I would also note that all post positions are part time and that presumably all the post commissioners may get business that they wouldn't otherwise get if they weren't post commissioners who adopted the positions they have. 

 

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 12:09 PM

 

 

I didn't say they were 'on the take.'  I would suggest they've been mentally co-opted to a train of thought that benefited from superior political strategy that helped them get elected and now they've got their job, will enable them to keep their job by aligning with the political machine that outside money interests legally built in the county.

 

While I would not assert any of these guys are on the take, I've seen enough in my time to remain vigilant to the possibility.  I.e. if you put me on the stand I would not swear to anything other than I don't know and that my level of surprise and disappointment would vary dramatically if any were on the take.  I would also note that all post positions are part time and that presumably all the post commissioners may get business that they wouldn't otherwise get if they weren't post commissioners who adopted the positions they have. 

 

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I tend to agree.  I don't really believe that the Chicken World 4 are "on the take", although I would venture to guess that many of their contributors are.  Nothing illegal there, just my suspicion.

 

I think these guys are good men who just really like being elected officials.  They know who got them there, so they feel like they need to put on a show for their adoring audience every other Tuesday.

 

In fairness, I think all 4 of them would be absolutely fantastic Atlanta City Councilmen, as they always seem to have Atlanta's best interest as priority #1 and will fight tooth and nail to do what's best for Atlanta.  I just want someone to fight for us.


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Posted 18 March 2017 - 08:01 PM

All I can say is that I voted against all of them I could.   What a mess.

 

It's like Prez Trump but at the local level, the GOP out smarted itself again.


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Posted 19 March 2017 - 07:05 AM

and once again paulding made it on the news Dale Russell  was reporting on this issue. . 

 

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Posted 19 March 2017 - 10:31 AM

I've come to the realization the issue is not the AIRPORT. The real issue is POWER. Power to control the county budget, power over every board, power over how every dollar of taxpayer money is spent. And the enemy is not the 5 Commissioners or those at the state level or federal levels. The enemy is those who are whispering in the elected offical's ears when no one is looking. I do not think any of our elected offical's are intentionally evil. But I think they would do much better if they were to build walls around themselves and block out those who are evil and whispering in their ears.

You mean like their Constituents? That is who really whispers in the ears only it is more like screaming!


 
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