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If the absentee and military votes were counted, I doubt Hillary would win the popular vote. But regardless...what this really means is that the electoral college system our founders put in place as a safeguard worked as it's supposed to. And this is critical to my point above about us being a republic; the majority (mob) doesn't rule.

 

I'm glad you admit to trying to divide Americans. You're being a loyal Democrat and following their marching orders. The leadership of the Democrats know that they cannot win by being truthful or forthcoming, so they lie and divide. Yes, the strategy comes from the top, and you and other's who bow to the donkey follow suit.

 

You do know that Newt is a Republican ... and since you showed your reading comprehension was faulty, I'll just repeat the original post in larger point type.

 

The thing that you fail to remember is that the GOP is not the GOP of history but has been infiltrated by a host of folks who are extreme fundamentalists - as in religious fundamentalists.

 

I know that our institutions are under attack as the approval ratings for everything from the congress to the press to higher education, public education, foreign affairs, law enforcement and even the military have dropped ... some more than others but some quite dramatically.

 

We are then testing the weakened institutions with religious fundamentalism tied to political involvement that I've been following since the 1960s but has been going on since the days of Father McLaughlin.

 

The situation has already evolved to the point that to win congress, democrats will need 58 percent of all the votes cast for congress (yes, GD, the system is rigged) up from about 55 percent the last election. Because voter suppression is the best tool the republicans have and negativity is the best to make the majority want to turn off politics, give up and not vote ... that is the probable path.

 

One of the key things we do know is that these folks, most of which are prime examples of what are called the alt-right, are inclined toward strong man autocratic rule that exploits hate, fear and division to eke their way into power and hope to use that power for the greater glory of God their own enrichment.

 

Because of the 'demographic bomb' that is in place in the US, they knew they had a deadline and the victory of Barack Obama in 2008 and again in 2012 has made the ever more desperate. They know that the rules that got us here will in the future work ever more against them and they know that their best bet in maintaining power is to stop playing the game and instead, hammer down the populace.

 

The election of Donald Trump was a critical element to their success and frankly, given the state of demographics - I mean the Donald is losing by more than 2 million votes overall - it is obvious that the stakes were considered so high that it is certain there was a great incentive to cheat.

 

That there are enough people, including all the Trump voters out there who bought his line that the election was being rigged, to cast a shadow on the institution of elections in the fifty states.

 

Remember all institutions are under assault so why would the institution that we rely on to conduct elections and count the results be immune.

 

Bottom line folks, what is broken about democracy is the distrust that has been injected into the system from the days when Newt was a Bankbencher in congress through the contract for America that welshed on term limits (just as trump will) to the sellouts that Trump will make to the ultra wealthy (they just got a lot richer) to the sellout of the 'white middle class' ... who will be told it was those Muslims, Mexicans and others of color who are responsible for their failure.

 

Remember, divide and conquer is a proven formula that has worked for centuries ... so, bring on some more division GD ... by saying I'm the guy doing the dividing.

 

pubby

 

PS: You should look up the meaning of the big lie sometime ... but on second thought, you're so much a part of it, you probably already know will employ it yet again ... in your reply.

 

Finally, in regard to the opening graph ... you do know the Dominionists are serious about a coup even if you aren't. BTW: I think the plan is to point fingers, say those who bring it up are wacko and always, deny, deny, deny until it is too late. Now I'm not saying they will be successful but they've been working toward this goal for more years than I've been alive and this is the closest they've come.

 

They are, as Elwood and Jake might say, "On a mission from God."

 

Hell, GD, I sense your dedication to your cause might mean you are on such a mission as well.

 

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My reading comprehension is just fine. But I know BS when I see it. You're still in denial that real people who are tired of being called racists, tired of the division your party spreads, tired of seeing your party getting police officers murdered, tired of seeing the federal government encroach further into their lives, tired of seeing our government spend us into oblivion, tired of so much of their paycheck going to pay people to sit on their butts and do nothing, tired of watching their beloved country become more and more Socialist, tired of a lying media, tired of a sissy administration who won't protect us against terrorists, and tired of the rampant corruption in Washington; said no to Hillary and the Democrats, and sent a message to the GOP as well.

Your party and it's corrupt Socialist agenda not only lost, pubby, it got slapped down hard!! You got the spanking of the century!!

So put on your big girl panties and deal with it.

BTW...the mission I've been on here is to not allow your lies, your propaganda, and your mission of feeding misinformation to your readers to go unchecked. And I'm serving only my country and my God, no one else. Unlike you, I don't get paid by Donkey Direct Deposit.

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. Unlike you, I don't get paid by Donkey Direct Deposit.

 

Ah...I think even the DNC is smart enough not to waste any funds on that lost cause.

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I'm serving only my country and my God.... :cray:

 

It's too bad that this site does not allow for a little background mood music to play as we read about your selfless and noble cause. Perhaps something like America the Beautiful to play softly as an American flag waves quietly in the wind .

 

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It's too bad that this site does not allow for a little background mood music to play as we read about your selfless and noble cause. Perhaps something like America the Beautiful to play softly as an American flag waves quietly in the wind .

 

I'm saddened to learn that you love niether God nor country.

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My reading comprehension is just fine. But I know BS when I see it. You're still in denial that real people who are tired of being called racists, tired of the division your party spreads, tired of seeing your party getting police officers murdered, tired of seeing the federal government encroach further into their lives, tired of seeing our government spend us into oblivion, tired of so much of their paycheck going to pay people to sit on their butts and do nothing, tired of watching their beloved country become more and more Socialist, tired of a lying media, tired of a sissy administration who won't protect us against terrorists, and tired of the rampant corruption in Washington; said no to Hillary and the Democrats, and sent a message to the GOP as well.

Your party and it's corrupt Socialist agenda not only lost, pubby, it got slapped down hard!! You got the spanking of the century!!

So put on your big girl panties and deal with it.

BTW...the mission I've been on here is to not allow your lies, your propaganda, and your mission of feeding misinformation to your readers to go unchecked. And I'm serving only my country and my God, no one else. Unlike you, I don't get paid by Donkey Direct Deposit.

The game show host (your hero) ran the most divisive campaign in history. IN HISTORY. Yet you want to push the thought that it's the Demorcrates purpose to divide this country.

 

Amazing.

 

Pubby is not the the political operative on this board. You are. You are the one that worships at the political altar. You are fooling no one.

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The game show host (your hero) ran the most divisive campaign in history. IN HISTORY. Yet you want to push the thought that it's the Demorcrates purpose to divide this country.

 

Amazing.

 

Pubby is not the the political operative on this board. You are. You are the one that worships at the political altar. You are fooling no one.

 

It's not just GD though he does it well, the Republicans have been doing it for decades taking their failures and projecting them on the Democrats. They gave away billions of tax dollars to the one percent then blame Democrats for the deficit, gave tax deductions for corporations to move overseas then blamed Democrats for the flight of manufacturing . Ruin economies and blame Democrats, start unnecessary wars, then blame Democrats for the mess that's left behind, the list goes on and on. I have even lately been hearing the new Republican catch phrase, the "alt Left."

 

But here's the thing; They do it, they get away with it and there's no one to blame except for the Democrat leadership.

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It's not just GD though he does it well, the Republicans have been doing it for decades taking their failures and projecting them on the Democrats. They gave away billions of tax dollars to the one percent then blame Democrats for the deficit, gave tax deductions for corporations to move overseas then blamed Democrats for the flight of manufacturing . Ruin economies and blame Democrats, start unnecessary wars, then blame Democrats for the mess that's left behind, the list goes on and on. I have even lately been hearing the new Republican catch phrase, the "alt Left."

 

But here's the thing; They do it, they get away with it and there's no one to blame except for the Democrat leadership.

 

I agree. After all the horror and absolute mess of the last republican president, the fact that another republican was put into office boggles the mind.

 

I read that the Demorcrates need to toughen up. I agree.

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It's not just GD though he does it well, the Republicans have been doing it for decades taking their failures and projecting them on the Democrats. They gave away billions of tax dollars to the one percent then blame Democrats for the deficit, gave tax deductions for corporations to move overseas then blamed Democrats for the flight of manufacturing . Ruin economies and blame Democrats, start unnecessary wars, then blame Democrats for the mess that's left behind, the list goes on and on. I have even lately been hearing the new Republican catch phrase, the "alt Left."

 

But here's the thing; They do it, they get away with it and there's no one to blame except for the Democrat leadership.

​You bring up some good points, though I also know the Dems share some blame, too.

 

​The problem is, as I see it, that we have an aging population that will require more and more services we've promised as a nation. Those are good things to do as a society because if we don't, we have bigger and more costly problems in the future. So helping the aged or the infirm or the disabled or even those that can't, is like an ounce of prevention instead of a pound of cure later on. The problem is that if families cannot sustain themselves, it harms the kids, the grandkids, the community, and ultimately the whole nation. Sure there will always be those that look for ways to rip the system but that is the cost of making sure the nation is not crime ridden, with even less education than we have now, less familial debt to take care of the aged or sick or disabled, etc.

 

It's a 30 year problem until the attrition of the Baby Boomers.

 

 

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I agree. After all the horror and absolute mess of the last republican president, the fact that another republican was put into office boggles the mind.

 

I read that the Demorcrates need to toughen up. I agree.

 

The demographics are shifting. In 20 years, the white, Evangelical, extreme right will be transitioned to a more inclusive and educated society.

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The demographics are shifting. In 20 years, the white, Evangelical, extreme right will be transitioned to a more inclusive and educated society.

 

By the time that has happened the GOP will have made it impossible for anyone that's not a card carrying Republican to cast a vote.

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By the time that has happened the GOP will have made it impossible for anyone that's not a card carrying Republican to cast a vote.

​I'm that much of an alarmist.

 

​I was a Cruz supporter. When he started ramping up his religious stuff, I back away a bit. Then I moved to the Trump Train and realized he was just manipulating people who weren't educated and played on the nation's fears. After the tape came out where he admitted to assaulting women, that was the end for me. Still think Cruz would have done better, but fear both.

 

​In 20 years over half that aging white, male, Evangelical, alt right will be dead and gone. Just have to hang on.

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​I'm that much of an alarmist.

 

​I was a Cruz supporter. When he started ramping up his religious stuff, I back away a bit. Then I moved to the Trump Train and realized he was just manipulating people who weren't educated and played on the nation's fears. After the tape came out where he admitted to assaulting women, that was the end for me. Still think Cruz would have done better, but fear both.

 

​In 20 years over half that aging white, male, Evangelical, alt right will be dead and gone. Just have to hang on.

 

In 20 years I'll be dead and you young folks (not you personally) can pay the price for not getting involved now. That is if you even have a habitable planet by then.

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The demographics are shifting. In 20 years, the white, Evangelical, extreme right will be transitioned to a more inclusive and educated society.

I'd like to see your data to prove this hypothesis of yours. Your hypothesis also gives the impression that white, Evangelical members of the "extreme right" are the only demographic to not be inclusive and educated members of society.

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Not as sad as I am that you shamelessly use both to prop up your agenda.

Oh, and just what is that agenda?

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The game show host (your hero) ran the most divisive campaign in history. IN HISTORY. Yet you want to push the thought that it's the Demorcrates purpose to divide this country.

 

Amazing.

 

Pubby is not the the political operative on this board. You are. You are the one that worships at the political altar. You are fooling no one.

All you're doing with posts such as this is demonstrating your mentality that people can't possibly exist as individuals, so therefore they need to belong to a political party, as you do, so they can tell you what to believe. An awful lot of people on this forum know me by my Facebook and/or Hwy posts, and they know that I have no love for the GOP and I was a very vocal critic of Trump's throughout the primaries. So really...you're just making a fool of yourself with this stuff.

 

pubby spews the Democratic talking points word for word. Either he's working for them or they've taken control of his mind. Or perhaps he's just being a good soldier in hopes that one of the Donkey Royalty will pat him on the head and say "good boy".

 

The 'Hail Trump' agenda.

Well, as I just stated in my reply to RM...you're just making a fool of yourself and demonstrating that you don't believe people can survive without having a party to tell them how to think.

 

Too may people here know me better. I was quite the critic of Trump all through the primary.

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Well, as I just stated in my reply to RM...you're just making a fool of yourself and demonstrating that you don't believe people can survive without having a party to tell them how to think.

 

Too may people here know me better. I was quite the critic of Trump all through the primary.

 

You may have yourself and your Hwy posse fooled with this "free thinker" BS but believe me ain't nobody else buy'n it.

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You may have yourself and your Hwy posse fooled with this "free thinker" BS but believe me ain't nobody else buy'n it.

 

Yeah.

 

I'm pretty sure you don't have a set of testicles big enough to engage in a face to face debate with GD. He'd chop you up and send you home crying to yer momma.

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All you're doing with posts such as this is demonstrating your mentality that people can't possibly exist as individuals, so therefore they need to belong to a political party, as you do, so they can tell you what to believe. An awful lot of people on this forum know me by my Facebook and/or Hwy posts, and they know that I have no love for the GOP and I was a very vocal critic of Trump's throughout the primaries. So really...you're just making a fool of yourself with this stuff.

pubby spews the Democratic talking points word for word. Either he's working for them or they've taken control of his mind. Or perhaps he's just being a good soldier in hopes that one of the Donkey Royalty will pat him on the head and say "good boy".

Well, as I just stated in my reply to RM...you're just making a fool of yourself and demonstrating that you don't believe people can survive without having a party to tell them how to think.

Too may people here know me better. I was quite the critic of Trump all through the primary.

I never said I thought you were anything but a tea party member. Now that's gone and is now known as a part of the Alt Right, you're evidently right there with them.

 

I truly don't care what party you identify with even if it is the right. What I do care about is your rather incessant badgering of people that don't agree with you. Your constant and I do mean constant attacks, including personal attacks need to be addressed by the owner of this site. And that isn't you.

 

Members are being run off the site and I think it may help if we could, at least, consider the possibility of leaning more to center. That is what I believe is the majority anyway. I'm tired of the extreamists and the tone that comes with them.

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