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#1 PUBBY

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Posted 26 October 2016 - 02:16 PM

This is not from the Onion, but from Politico and cites a linguist and political scientist who says

 

His linguistic style is startlingly feminine, so much so that the chasm between Trump and the next most feminine speaker, Ben Carson, is about as great as the difference between Carson and the least feminine candidate, Jim Webb. And Trump earns his ranking not just because he talks a lot about himself or avoids big words (both of which are true); according to Jones, he also shows feminine patterns on the more subtle measures, such as his use of prepositions and articles. The key then is not what Trump talks about—making Mexico pay for the wall or bombing the hell out of ISIL—but rather how he says it.

 
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This brings up the notion that there may also be more to the 'bromance' he has with Putin. 
 
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#2 Guard Dad

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Posted 26 October 2016 - 02:19 PM

How misogynist of you!!


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Posted 26 October 2016 - 02:20 PM

Well, he does change his mind alot.


This post is sarcasm.  Unless it's not.

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Posted 26 October 2016 - 02:44 PM

How misogynist of you!!

Hardly. I was just fascinated by the story.

 

As an aside, I have to say this is the first thing I've seen that might add credence to Trump being innocent of being a sexual predator.  You know, like all the 'locker room talk' as he calls it; all his misogynist rants as well as his 'elegant' style and list of 'trophy wives' could just be a show to cover his hiding in the closet.   

 

I wouldn't go so far as to say anything like that is a fact but just know that language is a 'wired' aspect of the brain and it would be quite ironical if the first woman elected president were a man ;)

 

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Posted 26 October 2016 - 02:48 PM

Wow... just wow.

 

Maybe Trump is gay ? ? ?

 

As a political smear ? ? ?

 

That's offensive on so many levels.

 

Congratulations, you found the bottom of the barrel.

 

:good:


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Posted 26 October 2016 - 02:50 PM

Wow... just wow.

 

Maybe Trump is gay ? ? ?

 

As a political smear ? ? ?

 

That's offensive on so many levels.

 

Congratulations, you found the bottom of the barrel.

 

:good:

 

I didn't say that.  The article appeared in Politico.  If you read it, you'd see that enormous pink elephant was in the room. 

 

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Posted 26 October 2016 - 03:14 PM

 

I didn't say that.  The article appeared in Politico.  If you read it, you'd see that enormous pink elephant was in the room. 

 

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But you are pushing it...

 

Politico is trash.

 

:rolleyes:


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Posted 26 October 2016 - 03:25 PM

In the interest of fairness, I'll add this bit of news from the Washington Blade: 
 

The Log Cabin Republicans announced Saturday it will withhold its endorsement of Donald Trump, which marks the first time in 12 years the organization hasn’t endorsed the Republican presidential nominee.
 
Log Cabin announced the decision in an organizational statement from its political action committee, which begins with citing former President Reagan’s famous quote, “Trust but verify.”
 
“So cautioned former President Ronald Reagan who inspired our founding in 1977 — and it is a solemn understanding of that very instruction from our 40th president that compels Log Cabin Republicans to withhold endorsement from our Party’s current nominee,” the statement says.
 
The statement says Trump is “perhaps the most pro-LGBT presidential nominee in the history of the Republican Party and cites “unprecedented overtures” to LGBT people, but concludes that’s not enough.
 
 
“Log Cabin Republicans have long emphasized that we are not a single-issue organization, nor are our members single-issue voters,” the statement says. “Even if we were, rhetoric alone regarding LGBT issues does not equate to doctrine. As Mr. Trump spoke positively about the LGBT community in the United States, he concurrently surrounded himself with senior advisors with a record of opposing LGBT equality and committed himself to supporting legislation such as the so-called ‘First Amendment Defense Act’ that Log Cabin Republicans opposes.”

 

That said, the obvious takeaway is that the Log Cabin Republicans - i.e. organized gay Republicans, despite what appears to be the most generous support from Trump, have declined to support him because they don't trust him; largely because of the people from the alt-right that he has surrounded himself with.

 

 

 

But you are pushing it...

 

Politico is trash.

 

:rolleyes:

 

I think  pointing out that the Log Cabin Republicans reject endorsing him shows that I'm not pushing it.

 

As far as the quality of Politico ... from what I gather from the right in general, all media from the Blaze to the Washington Post and ABC are all trash.

 

My only takeaway from the right's indictment of the press is that given Trump's position on the press, it is not unreasonable for the press to consider his candidacy a direct, existential threat ... and given that, I think they've been pretty fair.

 

For instance, I've not seen politico, wapo.com or nytimes.com adopt the editorial position of the Huffpost ... i.e. :

 

 

Editor’s note: Donald Trump regularly incites political violence and is a serial liar, rampant xenophobe, racist, misogynist and birther who has repeatedly pledged to ban all Muslims — 1.6 billion members of an entire religion — from entering the U.S.

 

... which they include as a tag on every article that quotes the Republican nominee for President.

 

These, after all, are business people who have not only given the Donald three billion in publicity, but have been alternatively banned, threatened with libel and called out for abuse from the podium when the man speaks.

 

I think they've been imminently fair considering the danger to their economic and even physical well being.

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Posted 26 October 2016 - 03:42 PM

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"Every critic, every detractor, will have to bow down to President Trump,"

 

 

 

 

 


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Posted 26 October 2016 - 03:51 PM

 

I didn't say that.  The article appeared in Politico.  If you read it, you'd see that enormous pink elephant was in the room. 

 

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He would be like Hillary then, you do know she is gay.



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Posted 26 October 2016 - 04:35 PM

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Trump's reaction when he saw CitizanCain naked for one hundred, Alex.

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Posted 26 October 2016 - 05:04 PM

So all the politicAl correct bullsh*t that's rubbed in our faces for all these years.. is ok to violate as long as it's done by them.

Insinuating Trump has a female quality is an insult? Insinuating he's gay is an insult? What? So you're a misogynistic homophobe now. Care to make it a trifecta by comparing him to a minority???
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Posted 26 October 2016 - 05:22 PM

So all the politicAl correct bullsh*t that's rubbed in our faces for all these years.. is ok to violate as long as it's done by them.

Insinuating Trump has a female quality is an insult? Insinuating he's gay is an insult? What? So you're a misogynistic homophobe now. Care to make it a trifecta by comparing him to a minority???

 

When in Rome...


"Every critic, every detractor, will have to bow down to President Trump,"

 

 

 

 

 


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Posted 26 October 2016 - 05:35 PM

So all the politicAl correct bullsh*t that's rubbed in our faces for all these years.. is ok to violate as long as it's done by them.

Insinuating Trump has a female quality is an insult? Insinuating he's gay is an insult? What? So you're a misogynistic homophobe now. Care to make it a trifecta by comparing him to a minority???

 

It is a news story. If it was a story about his DNA and it was proven by DNA evidence that he was kin to Beethoven, Karl Marx or Joseph Goebbels, that would be news as well.  You can call it junk science but then take that up with the author.

 

You can also say that Trumps' words are what count and, I'd be right with you saying they weren't feminine in the least.

 

But in a world where non-verbal cues and general style say so much and say it on a level that most of us are not conscious of, I find the topic fascinating.

 

As far as the rest, it is speculation that helped me get around the idea that he was what everyone seemed to think he is - a sexual predator (Megyn Kelly). 

 

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Posted 26 October 2016 - 05:39 PM

so..................  Trump has female qualities and he's gay???  How about that?  Wouldn't have believed it in a minute.  I do believe we have a gay POSPOTUS and a male first lady though.



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Posted 26 October 2016 - 06:02 PM

so..................  Trump has female qualities and he's gay???  How about that?  Wouldn't have believed it in a minute.  I do believe we have a gay POSPOTUS and a male first lady though.

 

 

Okay, you convinced me ... if it is important to you that Donald J. Trump is so overflowing with testosterone that he is a sexual predator ... I'm down with you on that :)

 

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Posted 26 October 2016 - 06:03 PM

 

 

Okay, you convinced me ... if it is important to you that Donald J. Trump is so overflowing with testosterone that he is a sexual predator ... I'm down with you on that :)

 

pubby

Finally, we're on the same page.  It took you a long time to come over.



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Posted 26 October 2016 - 06:46 PM

Wow!! The great liberal defender of women and gays is criticizing Trump for having female and gay tendencies.

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Posted 26 October 2016 - 07:11 PM

Bill Clinton is 100% hetero with all male characteristics according to DANNEY WILLIAMS' mom...

(Sorry I just had to mention that because it's banned material on CNN and someone has to report actual news stories)

Meanwhile Mr Pcom DNC chair over here thinks Trump isn't fit to be president because he may be similar to females.
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Posted 26 October 2016 - 07:17 PM

I didn't say that.  The article appeared in Politico.  If you read it, you'd see that enormous pink elephant was in the room. 
 
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Posted 26 October 2016 - 07:34 PM

Wait. We're you just kidding around? Locker room talk?
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Posted 26 October 2016 - 07:56 PM

Wait. We're you just kidding around? Locker room talk?

Wonder if pubby has ever grabbed any gays by the....

Never mind. Don't wanna know.


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Posted 26 October 2016 - 08:35 PM

Finally, we're on the same page.  It took you a long time to come over.

 

 

Really, no defense.  You do know that being gay is not a crime while being a sexual predator who commits battery on women is.

 

Oh well :)

 

Wow!! The great liberal defender of women and gays is criticizing Trump for having female and gay tendencies.

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I wasn't criticizing him.  I was assessing his behavior in a new and possibly more understanding light but like with champsbbcoach ... if testosterone monster fits you image of the guy, don't let me dissuade you.

 

Hey, this is entertaining ... kind of like a reality tv show.  After all, it was your guy who turned this into this.

 

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Posted 26 October 2016 - 09:12 PM

 

I wasn't criticizing him.  I was assessing his behavior in a new and possibly more understanding light but like with champsbbcoach ... if testosterone monster

 

Hey, this is entertaining ... kind of like a reality tv show.  After all, it was your guy who turned this into this.

 

pubby

As I've said before...he's "my guy" only in the sense that he's all that stands in the way of the traitorous criminal Hillary and the White House.  Sometimes you gotta dance with the one who brung ya.

Maybe we should do a Pat and Guard Dad Guard Dad and Pat Show. Bringing some intelligence and solid conservative principles to it would likely make it much more popular than your old show Socialist circle jerk was.  :)


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Posted 26 October 2016 - 09:14 PM

As I've said before...he's "my guy" only in the sense that he's all that stands in the way of the traitorous criminal Hillary and the White House.  Sometimes you gotta dance with the one who brung ya.
Maybe we should do a Pat and Guard Dad Guard Dad and Pat Show. Bringing some intelligence and solid conservative principles to it would likely make it much more popular than your old show Socialist circle jerk was.  :)


You have your own site........certainly you could do this without asking favors eh?
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Posted 26 October 2016 - 09:19 PM

As I've said before...he's "my guy" only in the sense that he's all that stands in the way of the traitorous criminal Hillary and the White House.  Sometimes you gotta dance with the one who brung ya.

Maybe we should do a Pat and Guard Dad Guard Dad and Pat Show. Bringing some intelligence and solid conservative principles to it would likely make it much more popular than your old show Socialist circle jerk was.  :)

 

No, please no more Pat and <anybody> videos.  I still have nightmares after watching just one of them.


This post is sarcasm.  Unless it's not.

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Posted 26 October 2016 - 09:38 PM

As I've said before...he's "my guy" only in the sense that he's all that stands in the way of the traitorous criminal Hillary and the White House.  Sometimes you gotta dance with the one who brung ya.

Maybe we should do a Pat and Guard Dad Guard Dad and Pat Show. Bringing some intelligence and solid conservative principles to it would likely make it much more popular than your old show Socialist circle jerk was.  :)

He's not my guy either so I'll have to hold my nose and vote Trump even though in reality I'll be voting Pence.


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Posted 26 October 2016 - 09:44 PM

You have your own site........certainly you could do this without asking favors eh?

Trying to tell me where I can and can't post again?

Just how high and mighty do you think you are?

And have you ever had a sense of humor?  Doubt it.


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Posted 26 October 2016 - 09:47 PM

Trying to tell me where I can and can't post again?
Just how high and mighty do you think you are?
And have you ever had a sense of humor?  Doubt it.


Wrong on all counts. And last nights postings on Obamacare shows you for what you are.
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Posted 26 October 2016 - 10:02 PM

Wrong on all counts. And last nights postings on Obamacare shows you for what you are.

Oh, so what am I?


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Posted 26 October 2016 - 10:41 PM

 

No, please no more Pat and <anybody> videos.  I still have nightmares after watching just one of them.

'tis the season ;)

 

As I've said before...he's "my guy" only in the sense that he's all that stands in the way of the traitorous criminal Hillary and the White House.  Sometimes you gotta dance with the one who brung ya.

Maybe we should do a Pat and Guard Dad Guard Dad and Pat Show. Bringing some intelligence and solid conservative principles to it would likely make it much more popular than your old show Socialist circle jerk was.  :)

 

It is simply not physically feasible at this time, not to mention that I am not terribly impressed with the decorum you expressed in your pitch.

 

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Posted 26 October 2016 - 10:48 PM

'tis the season ;)

 

 

It is simply not physically feasible at this time, not to mention that I am not terribly impressed with the decorum you expressed in your pitch.

 

pubby

'Fraid I'll steal your thunder, huh?


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Posted 26 October 2016 - 11:00 PM

'Fraid I'll steal your thunder, huh?

 

 

hardly,  I'm just concerned that if you called what I did before in the company of two women a circle jerk, things may really get out of hand.

 

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Posted 26 October 2016 - 11:08 PM

 

 

hardly,  I'm just concerned that if you called what I did before in the company of two women a circle jerk, things may really get out of hand.

 

pubby

It was a figurative term

 


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Posted 28 October 2016 - 03:39 PM

How is implying someone has feminine traits 'misogynistic'?

 

A misogynist is a person who dislikes, despises, or is strongly prejudiced against women.

 

Not only that, he simply chose to share a determination made by someone else, not his own conclusion.  

 

I don't think Trump is feminine, I think he's a disgusting pig.  He's going to make America great again and create all these wonderful jobs, why not start by bringing back the ones he sent overseas, and have his daughter do the same? Those tax dollars they don't pay over here would go a long damn way toward making America great again.  Wonder how many undocumented workers he has employed or currently employs?  How many of his fellow billionaire CEOs will he have bring their jobs and tax dollars back to America?

He is not a good businessman, he is a creepy narcissist who, after almost losing everything that was given to him, charmed, cheated, bankrupted and conned his way back to his elite status, or so he says, while robbing the country of tax revenue and creating jobs in Bangladesh, China and Mexico.  They are ok when it works to his benefit, but let's not let them come into this country.

 

And since he won't release his tax returns, nobody knows where he gets his money, how much he even has and whether he might have some interests of his own that jeopardize our national security.  Plus he is a complete whack-a-doodle and has blatantly lied or back tracked on dang near everything and every position he has stated so far.

 

And Newt Gingrich.  Yuck.   Birds of a feather...

 

Hillary is pretty bad, and Trump is equally as bad or worse. 


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Posted 28 October 2016 - 04:03 PM

How is implying someone has feminine traits 'misogynistic'?

 

A misogynist is a person who dislikes, despises, or is strongly prejudiced against women.

 

Not only that, he simply chose to share a determination made by someone else, not his own conclusion.  

 

I don't think Trump is feminine, I think he's a disgusting pig.  He's going to make America great again and create all these wonderful jobs, why not start by bringing back the ones he sent overseas, and have his daughter do the same? Those tax dollars they don't pay over here would go a long damn way toward making America great again.  Wonder how many undocumented workers he has employed or currently employs?  How many of his fellow billionaire CEOs will he have bring their jobs and tax dollars back to America?

He is not a good businessman, he is a creepy narcissist who, after almost losing everything that was given to him, charmed, cheated, bankrupted and conned his way back to his elite status, or so he says, while robbing the country of tax revenue and creating jobs in Bangladesh, China and Mexico.  They are ok when it works to his benefit, but let's not let them come into this country.

 

And since he won't release his tax returns, nobody knows where he gets his money, how much he even has and whether he might have some interests of his own that jeopardize our national security.  Plus he is a complete whack-a-doodle and has blatantly lied or back tracked on dang near everything and every position he has stated so far.

 

And Newt Gingrich.  Yuck.   Birds of a feather...

 

Hillary is pretty bad, and Trump is equally as bad or worse. 

 

Definitely, he is worse.

 

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Posted 28 October 2016 - 05:45 PM

How misogynist of you!!

 

You don't seem to have a grasp on the meaning of misogyny let me see if I can help you.

 


"Every critic, every detractor, will have to bow down to President Trump,"

 

 

 

 

 


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Posted 28 October 2016 - 06:02 PM

 

 

Really, no defense.  You do know that being gay is not a crime while being a sexual predator who commits battery on women is.

 

Oh well :)

 

 

I wasn't criticizing him.  I was assessing his behavior in a new and possibly more understanding light but like with champsbbcoach ... if testosterone monster fits you image of the guy, don't let me dissuade you.

 

Hey, this is entertaining ... kind of like a reality tv show.  After all, it was your guy who turned this into this.

 

pubby

I'm sure Obama and Michael are glad it's not a crime to be gay, and you're right in that being a sexual predator towards women is criminal.  What do you think of Biden then?  Have you noticed that every time he's in the presence of young girls, he has to touch them in some way...... either to brush their hair off their shoulder or rub their arm or shoulder or place his hand on their waist?  Would you call that predatory?



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Posted 28 October 2016 - 06:27 PM

You mean there is not a greatest hits on Biden hitting on women; you know saying he can grope women because he's the vp ... on youtube.

 

I'd like to see it before I common because I've not noticed him behaving that way.

 

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Posted 28 October 2016 - 09:44 PM

You mean there is not a greatest hits on Biden hitting on women; you know saying he can grope women because he's the vp ... on youtube.

 

I'd like to see it before I common because I've not noticed him behaving that way.

 

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You "common" every time you post.


"The belief is that the political incorrectness involved in the discussion will destroy the community" - posted by pubby on 10-22-16

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