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#1 PUBBY

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Posted 01 March 2016 - 10:08 PM

rON Ron Davis wins Post 1 seat through December 2016

  Republican Ron Davis beat fellow republican Jeremiah Fields with 3926 votes and 61.44%  of the vote in the special election that ran coincidentally with the presidential primary in Georgia.

Fields garnered 2,373 votes and 37.14 percent of the vote. Voters wrote in other names which totaled 91 votes cast or 1.42% of the vote.

Davis will take the seat held by David Carmichael who is running for commission chairman.  Both Davis and his opponent Fields are expected to re-run the race for the post in the Republican Primary set for May. 

Official qualifying for the commission chairman post as well as post 1 commissioner is set later this month along with a host of other county offices.

The results published are unofficial county results that Paulding.com got directly from the county election office.



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Posted 02 March 2016 - 07:42 AM

Low voter turn out = NO

"Outside" money = NO

PAC = NO
Negative campaign = NO

 

Best man for the job = YES!!!

 

Ron Davis ran on a zero budget, fiscal conservative, anti commercial airliners- pro general aviation airport, and commissioner accountability and transparency platform.

 

With all four posts electing anti-commercial airliner candidates, I'd say Paulding has again shown we need to stop the Part 139 and boot Propeller out of Paulding County. 


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Posted 02 March 2016 - 09:51 AM

Anyone seen what the voter turn out percentage was?  I'm just curious.


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Posted 02 March 2016 - 10:04 AM

Anyone seen what the voter turn out percentage was?  I'm just curious.

The turnout yesterday was about equal to the total votes cast in the other 3 posts in last year's elections,  and if I recall, Davis' margin was about the same as Pownall's over Patti.


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I guess you haven't been to Detroit recently?  Or, Newark or East St.Louis or Gary, IN, or Stockton, CA?

 

You know, those bastions of liberal Democrat government that have been so successful in attracting wealthy, educated leaders and businesspeople.  Progressive people,  who have uplifted the poorer of their brethren, so their city can be that bright example of how well Socialism works.


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Posted 02 March 2016 - 11:32 AM

I want to say the turnout was in the range of 36% of the registered voters.

 

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Posted 02 March 2016 - 11:37 AM

I want to say that 100% of the people that really wanted to vote, voted.
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Posted 02 March 2016 - 11:49 AM

I want to say that 100% of the people that really wanted to vote, voted.

 

Almost.   SWMBO couldn't get out because she was sick.   I tried to vote twice, once for her,  but they said that wasn't possible, since I had already selected a GOP ballot.  Had I chosen a Dem ballot, hell,  just wear the machine out.  Vote all you want.   


Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist".

 

 

I guess you haven't been to Detroit recently?  Or, Newark or East St.Louis or Gary, IN, or Stockton, CA?

 

You know, those bastions of liberal Democrat government that have been so successful in attracting wealthy, educated leaders and businesspeople.  Progressive people,  who have uplifted the poorer of their brethren, so their city can be that bright example of how well Socialism works.


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Posted 02 March 2016 - 12:37 PM

 

Almost.   SWMBO couldn't get out because she was sick.   I tried to vote twice, once for her,  but they said that wasn't possible, since I had already selected a GOP ballot.  Had I chosen a Dem ballot, hell,  just wear the machine out.  Vote all you want.   

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Posted 02 March 2016 - 12:52 PM

Just wait til November, all the dead will rise from their graves to vote for Hillary.

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Posted 02 March 2016 - 01:41 PM

I want to say the turnout was in the range of 36% of the registered voters.
 
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Let's talk real numbers Pubby;
6299 total Post 1 voters
3926 62.3% Ron
2373 37.7% Jeremiah

3562 last Post 1 voters
1998 56% Dave
1564 44% Heidi
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Posted 02 March 2016 - 01:47 PM

Let's talk real numbers Pubby;
6299 total Post 1 voters
3926 62.3% Ron
2373 37.7% Jeremiah

3562 last Post 1 voters
1998 56% Dave
1564 44% Heidi

 

 

Facts?  We don't need no stinking facts!

 

 

Just out of curiosity, the title of this news announcement is,  Ron Davis wins Post 1 seat through December 2015

 

 

Does that mean that Ron Davis and Jeremy Fields spent all that time, money and effort to win a position that ended 2 months ago?


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Posted 02 March 2016 - 03:27 PM

I do not know this to be a fact, but I have heard that yesterday was a record turnout for Paulding voters.

I do not know if that means in a primary election or what, but that is what I heard.

If incorrect, please let me know.


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Posted 02 March 2016 - 04:30 PM

It was a record turn out for Paulding County.  Some amazing Poll Workers and volunteers were at every polling place in Paulding. 

 

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Posted 02 March 2016 - 10:31 PM

Let's talk real numbers Pubby;
6299 total Post 1 voters
3926 62.3% Ron
2373 37.7% Jeremiah

3562 last Post 1 voters
1998 56% Dave
1564 44% Heidi

 

I think this would represent a record turnout for a special election in Paulding. Since the comparison is to a regular primary election (July 2012), the notion that it was going to be a better turnout than a regular primary is not only acknowledged but predicted.
 

Facts?  We don't need no stinking facts!
 
 
Just out of curiosity, the title of this news announcement is,  Ron Davis wins Post 1 seat through December 2015[/size]

 

Does that mean that Ron Davis and Jeremy Fields spent all that time, money and effort to win a position that ended 2 months ago?

 
The 2015 date was a typo.  It is obviously 2016 (already) and the original title ( I dragged and dropped from the title bar and to add to the character count for appearance, I added the year ... which obviously was a mistake.)  Still, thanks for the heads up - I changed it.

Beyond that, you are as full of cheese as a Christmas turkey.  When Dave Carmichael resigned I congratulated Dave Carmichael because I thought it a great idea to time his resignation to force the election on the presidential Super Tuesday because the issue of low turnout would give the pro-airport forces a fighting chance.

That said, I have to commend Ron Davis on his campaign and, for that matter, adopting the notion I believe I pioneered - i.e. that all matters, except actual emergencies, ought to be automatically tabled until the next regular meeting that is typically two weeks hence. I probably have differences on policy with Mr. Davis but I applaud his stated commitment to openness and I hope to see him offer a motion to table every matter that comes before the commission.

I will wonder, frankly if he will get a second and who will deliver the second - if anyone. Hell, I'd think it hoot if David Austin makes the second and the motion to table fails by a vote of 3-2.

Regardless, I feel responsible for bringing that approach to the attention of the public and feel gratified that it may be adopted in practice.

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Posted 02 March 2016 - 10:40 PM

I think this would represent a record turnout for a special election in Paulding. Since the comparison is to a regular primaryelection (July 2012), the notion that it was going to be a better turnout than a regular primary is not onlyacknowledged but predicted.   Does that mean that Ron Davis and Jeremy Fields spent all that time, money and effort to win a position that ended 2 months ago?You guys are a full of cheese as a Christmas turkey. I congratulated Dave Carmichael because I thought it a great idea to time his resignation toforce the election on the presidential Super Tuesday because the issue of low turnout would give them a fighting chance.That said, I have to commend Ron Davis on his campaign and, for that matter, adopting the notion I believe I pioneered - i.e. that all matters, except actual emergencies, ought tobe automatically tabled until the next regular meeting that is typically two weeks hence. I probably have differences on policy with Mr. Davis but I applaud hisstated commitment to openness and I hope to see him offer a motion to table every matter that comes before the commission.I will wonder, frankly if he will get a second and who will deliver the second - if anyone. Hell, I'd think it hoot if David Austin makes thesecond and the motion to table fails by a vote of 3-2.Regardless, I feel responsible for bringing that approach to the attention of the public and feel gratified that it may be adopted in practice.pubby



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Posted 03 March 2016 - 02:19 AM

... When Dave Carmichael resigned I congratulated Dave Carmichael because I thought it a great idea to time his resignation to force the election on the presidential Super Tuesday because the issue of low turnout would give the pro-airport forces a fighting chance...
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Give it a break Pubby. This is 5 races in a row where the voters have ratified the NO-139 candidate.
Please correct me if I am wrong. With the exception of this Post 1 Special Election the Post 2, Post 3, Post 4 and Hiram Mayoral races have all been run on the regular schedules without any special election.

As far as voter turnout, in all 5 races the NO-139 teams were out promoting each race, encouraging voters to research the issues, encouraging voter registration and educating citizens to the dates the polls would be open.

In my opinion the NO-139 has increased voter turnout in at least 4 of the 5 races I mention.

Again in my opinion an informed & educated voter is much more important than a NO-139 voter.
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Posted 03 March 2016 - 02:26 AM

Anyone seen what the voter turn out percentage was?  I'm just curious.


Let's talk real numbers Pubby;
6299 total Post 1 voters
3926 62.3% Ron
2373 37.7% Jeremiah

3562 last Post 1 voters
1998 56% Dave
1564 44% Heidi


Pubby, Here's something else to think about. That race where Dave won against Hiedi... We now know 139 had been birthed, the FAA was involved and the TSA had been notified. Only educated & informed citizens knew nothing about it. Did you know?

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Posted 03 March 2016 - 05:38 AM

So I hope everyone would now agree, the airport is the biggest issue facing Paulding County, the voters in every single post have voted for No 139.  We have replaced 5 pro-airliner elected officials who those that ran on "No Commercial Airport". 

 

We have been saying since day 1, get out of your circle and actually talk to the citizens.  Not your friends, not friends of friends, people you don't know, those blue collar guys, the ones actually getting elected and are voting!!

 

People are energized and they are voting their conscience.  The don't want a commercial airport, most of them didn't want an airport at all. 

 

This next 9 months will be very productive and we should see a different Paulding County in the near future. 

 

Pubby, first............I don't know why you think you invented the 2 week waiting period, that's been discussed for years.  It was NOT your idea, even if you want to claim it, in fact it's hardly an original idea at all. And can you show me exactly where Commissioner Davis said he'd table all non-emergency votes for two weeks? 


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Posted 03 March 2016 - 06:39 AM

Years ago I got a letter from the courts asking me to show up on a particular date. When I got there they told me I was to be considered to participate in the legal system. I was not elected but I had an idea that there should be 12 jurors of one's peers over seen by a judge of the court with both sides having equal representation. I feel responsible for bringing that approach to the attention of the public and feel gratified that it may be adopted in practice.
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Posted 03 March 2016 - 07:40 AM

I am glad to see Ron in an elected position here in the county. I have admired him for a long time.

He is strong and independent. I know that he has intended to go into politics for a long time.

I hope he will not change in his first position. I have seen him stand up against rhetoric that didn't always make him popular in the circles he is in. I don't think he will be a puppet for any special interest groups, if people voted for him based on that they may be disappointed.

I hope he has not changed and will go on to have a good political career if he continues to be truthful and to exercise his belief in transparency in government.

Congratulations Ron.


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Posted 03 March 2016 - 10:15 AM

I am glad to see Ron in an elected position here in the county. I have admired him for a long time.

He is strong and independent. I know that he has intended to go into politics for a long time.

I hope he will not change in his first position. I have seen him stand up against rhetoric that didn't always make him popular in the circles he is in. I don't think he will be a puppet for any special interest groups, if people voted for him based on that they may be disappointed.

I hope he has not changed and will go on to have a good political career if he continues to be truthful and to exercise his belief in transparency in government.

Congratulations Ron.

 

Ron is his own man and no he's not being swayed by any special interest group.  Why would you even bring that up but to cause drama? 


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Posted 03 March 2016 - 10:48 AM

Pubby, Here's something else to think about. That race where Dave won against Hiedi... We now know 139 had been birthed, the FAA was involved and the TSA had been notified. Only educated & informed citizens knew nothing about it. Did you know?

 

As I understand it there was no action or direct contact with Propeller until late July/early August- after the primary -  other than an inquiry made by Blake Swafford to ask, if after the refusal in Gwinnette, were they still looking. 

 

Beyond that, the idea of a commercial airport in Paulding is a vision that precedes me.  Some oppose that vision and some support it. Did you know that the Jones/inland/temple folks were down right ecstatic about the idea?  These folks, whose Republican credentials go back over a 150 years, actually put a clause in the contract that encouraged the city of Atlanta to bring a commercial airport here.

 

I dare say that back in the day, it was the Republican party that was strongly behind a commercial airport in Paulding and, conversely, it was those stupid ignorant Democrats that dominated the politics of the 1970s that were against it.  How things change and how they stay the same.

 

But at that point in time, in the midst of the 2012 primary, the notion that David Carmichael was in any way committed to a deal with Propeller is preposterous.  At best, at that time, if he, as a member of the airport authority was clued, it would have been at most, a testament to an open mind.

 

Now I know, you and all the other anti-airport folks don't want leaders with open minds.  And that attribute, frankly, is what I reject ... being open minded.

 

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To suggest that thoughts of a commercial airport in Paulding were non-existant



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Posted 03 March 2016 - 11:21 AM

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Posted 03 March 2016 - 11:51 AM



 

 

Now I know, you and all the other anti-airport folks don't want leaders with open minds. And that attribute, frankly, is what I reject ... being open minded.

 

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To suggest that thoughts of a commercial airport in Paulding were non-existant

 

 

 

"Loose lips sink ships..."

 

 

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Posted 03 March 2016 - 11:58 AM

 

 

 

"Loose lips sink ships..."

 

 

8)

:clapping:


 

As I understand it there was no action or direct contact with Propeller until late July/early August- after the primary -  other than an inquiry made by Blake Swafford to ask, if after the refusal in Gwinnette, were they still looking. 

 


 

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To suggest that thoughts of a commercial airport in Paulding were non-existant

 

There is correspondence with the airport manager and Brett Smith going all the way back to June 2012.  Do an open records request and see for yourself.  ;)  Your sources will tell you what they want you to say.  :D


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Posted 03 March 2016 - 12:45 PM

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Posted 03 March 2016 - 12:47 PM

 

Ron is his own man and no he's not being swayed by any special interest group.  Why would you even bring that up but to cause drama? 

I guess you are assuming I was talking about the anti-airport folks or you would not have jumped to conclusions. You folks are not the only people that think they are special and in need of a commissioner taking up your cause.


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Posted 03 March 2016 - 02:39 PM

 

As I understand it there was no action or direct contact with Propeller until late July/early August- after the primary -  other than an inquiry made by Blake Swafford to ask, if after the refusal in Gwinnette, were they still looking. 

 

Beyond that, the idea of a commercial airport in Paulding is a vision that precedes me.  Some oppose that vision and some support it. Did you know that the Jones/inland/temple folks were down right ecstatic about the idea?  These folks, whose Republican credentials go back over a 150 years, actually put a clause in the contract that encouraged the city of Atlanta to bring a commercial airport here.

 

I dare say that back in the day, it was the Republican party that was strongly behind a commercial airport in Paulding and, conversely, it was those stupid ignorant Democrats that dominated the politics of the 1970s that were against it.  How things change and how they stay the same.

 

But at that point in time, in the midst of the 2012 primary, the notion that David Carmichael was in any way committed to a deal with Propeller is preposterous.  At best, at that time, if he, as a member of the airport authority was clued, it would have been at most, a testament to an open mind.

 

Now I know, you and all the other anti-airport folks don't want leaders with open minds.  And that attribute, frankly, is what I reject ... being open minded.

 

pubby

 

 

 

To suggest that thoughts of a commercial airport in Paulding were non-existant

Not so Pubby On  July 17, 2012 Blake Swafford sent a letter to James Scott asking for assistance in setting up the necessary things to begin Commercial Passenger service, As it relates to the TSA agents and airport security

 

At that time the flights were already scheduled for Allegiant air with the arrival and Departure times included, Furthermore the letter states that conversation was already began at that time for  a 139 certification. this was all prior to the election that was held that Year on July 31, 2012

 

If you will post the letter here I will e-mail you a copy if you give me a e-mail address.

 

Bottom line Dave Carmichael was a sitting member of the Airport Authority during this period of time, Mr. Carmichael was a party of keeping this a secret from the people in post #1 for the entire campaign for office, even after he was elected he was a party  to the negotiations with propeller,, and secretly was a party to the off site held in Douglasville even after he took office as commissioner..

Come this May Mr. Carmichael will face the citizens in this county and will be asking them for their vote as Commission Chairman, I will often wonder as I see him at the various functions during the upcoming campaign, Just what is he secretly hiding now from the people that he wants to vote for him...... GAME ON FOLKS.  I am going to try to let every person in this county know what Carmichael snuck around and did in those secret meetings.

 

Edited to add I have every reason to believe that you and some members of your staff was aware of most if not all of the above,


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Posted 03 March 2016 - 06:26 PM

:clapping:


 

There is correspondence with the airport manager and Brett Smith going all the way back to June 2012.  Do an open records request and see for yourself.  ;)  Your sources will tell you what they want you to say.  :D

 

I know ... but the operative statement is between Blake and Brett Smith.  I can tell you that Brett Smith was in no mood to immediately jump into Paulding after his rejection ... was it at the end of June or May 2012 ... at Brisco Field.  Bottom line, Blake was doing his job, looking for opportunities.   But to suggest the office holders were engaged - do know that David Austin was somewhat distracted by a political campaign where he was being attacked by those who opposed him including two current post commissioners (Todd and his challenger in 2012 - Tony Crowe) ..   was anything more than initial inquiries - asking questions - at that point is absurd.

 

That said I have no illusion that you folks think that this plan to commercialize goes back to before the airport was built.  Indeed, there are aspects from the depth of the runway pour (concrete) to the existing wiring in the terminal building that are suggestive that the airport would ultimately become 'commercial.'

 

And given those 'preparations' ... and the fact that the administrator that was in office at the time of those little known improvements is now lurking in the shadows, suggests that the problem with this 'deal' is that it really supposed to be someone-else's deal.

 

Of course you guys are all backing these people now and they're saying  ... no commercial airport ... so why did they build the runway to handle commercial sized jet aircraft.

 

We should all remember that even your ally can change his/her mind.  Sleep well Tundra.

 

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Posted 03 March 2016 - 06:36 PM

 

I know ... but the operative statement is between Blake and Brett Smith.  I can tell you that Brett Smith was in no mood to immediately jump into Paulding after his rejection ... was it at the end of June or May 2012 ... at Brisco Field.  Bottom line, Blake was doing his job, looking for opportunities.   But to suggest the office holders were engaged - do know that David Austin was somewhat distracted by a political campaign where he was being attacked by those who opposed him including two current post commissioners (Todd and his challenger in 2012 - Tony Crowe) ..   was anything more than initial inquiries - asking questions - at that point is absurd.

 

That said I have no illusion that you folks think that this plan to commercialize goes back to before the airport was built.  Indeed, there are aspects from the depth of the runway pour (concrete) to the existing wiring in the terminal building that are suggestive that the airport would ultimately become 'commercial.'

 

And given those 'preparations' ... and the fact that the administrator that was in office at the time of those little known improvements is now lurking in the shadows, suggests that the problem with this 'deal' is that it really supposed to be someone-else's deal.

 

Of course you guys are all backing these people now and they're saying  ... no commercial airport ... so why did they build the runway to handle commercial sized jet aircraft.

 

We should all remember that even your ally can change his/her mind.  Sleep well Tundra.

 

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I have never said any of the things you are implying here.  We have been lied to from the beginning, starting with "it won't cost the taxpayers a dime" and "nothing bigger than an SUV with wings, and let's not forget, "never, ever will there be commercial airliners, believe you me".  Oh yes and NO gray areas, everything out in the open. 

What are people supposed to think?  How does anyone expect us to believe anything they say about the airport.  Forgive my discontent, but a man is only as good as his word. 


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Posted 03 March 2016 - 07:05 PM

 

I know ... but the operative statement is between Blake and Brett Smith.  I can tell you that Brett Smith was in no mood to immediately jump into Paulding after his rejection ... was it at the end of June or May 2012 ... at Brisco Field.  Bottom line, Blake was doing his job, looking for opportunities.   But to suggest the office holders were engaged - do know that David Austin was somewhat distracted by a political campaign where he was being attacked by those who opposed him including two current post commissioners (Todd and his challenger in 2012 - Tony Crowe) ..   was anything more than initial inquiries - asking questions - at that point is absurd.

 

That said I have no illusion that you folks think that this plan to commercialize goes back to before the airport was built.  Indeed, there are aspects from the depth of the runway pour (concrete) to the existing wiring in the terminal building that are suggestive that the airport would ultimately become 'commercial.'

 

And given those 'preparations' ... and the fact that the administrator that was in office at the time of those little known improvements is now lurking in the shadows, suggests that the problem with this 'deal' is that it really supposed to be someone-else's deal.

 

Of course you guys are all backing these people now and they're saying  ... no commercial airport ... so why did they build the runway to handle commercial sized jet aircraft.

 

We should all remember that even your ally can change his/her mind.  Sleep well Tundra.

 

pubby

 

 

"I can tell you that Brett Smith was in no mood to immediately jump into Paulding after his rejection ... was it at the end of June or May 2012 ... at Brisco Field."  

 

Really??

 

1. How can you tell anyone, what was in Brett Smith's mind?

 

2. For a guy who, according to you, was in no mood to jump anywhere, it sure appears from the facts that Brett Smith has done everything, but the right thing, try and find some county in GA that will accept his deal.

 

Ohhhhh, just for the record:

2008 - Propeller tries to get a deal with Barrow County

2011 thru June 2012 - Propeller tries to get a deal with Gwinnett County

July 2012 - Propeller is in the midst of putting together a deal with Paulding County

 

Brett Smith reminds me of a guy I went to school with, his pickup line was to just ask girl after girl to hanky panky, his thinking was that sooner or later he would find one that would say yes. 

 

 

 
"We should all remember that even your ally can change his/her mind."

 

Those who hold authority and are in power, have an obligation and a duty to let the people they serve know, what they are changing their minds about and why they are changing their minds about it.

Ohhhhh, and they have an obligation and duty to let the people they work for, know about it before it happens, not after they are found out. 

 

 

As for the rest of your blather, wanna take a polygraph test?

No?

I thought not.

 

 

 

 

 


I have never said any of the things you are implying here.  We have been lied to from the beginning, starting with "it won't cost the taxpayers a dime" and "nothing bigger than an SUV with wings, and let's not forget, "never, ever will there be commercial airliners, believe you me".  Oh yes and NO gray areas, everything out in the open. 

What are people supposed to think?  How does anyone expect us to believe anything they say about the airport.  Forgive my discontent, but a man is only as good as his word

 

 

Well, we all know a guy who used to rail and cry about families "running" the county, but now claims he never said such things.

Even though many many many people have heard his rants.

I guess we know how good he is.


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Posted 03 March 2016 - 07:20 PM

The contracts for the Silver Comet agreement were signed in November 2012..............July to November is only 4 months.   This deal was being discussed before the primary and certainly before the General Election.  They didn't tell us for almost a year.  Know why they came forward?  They needed money and the BOC had to approve the bonds.  It's always been on the taxpayers backs, we back those bonds. 


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Posted 03 March 2016 - 07:26 PM

 

As for the rest of your blather, wanna take a polygraph test?

No?

I thought not.

 

 

Well actually Stradial as I recall Pubby accepted your challenge, under certain conditions, for a lie detector test and you declined ?   


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Posted 03 March 2016 - 07:35 PM

Well actually Stradial as I recall Pubby accepted your challenge, under certain conditions, for a lie detector test and you declined ?


I'll try to explain this again.
Despite what you see on the Batchlor of other TV shows, a professional polygraph test is done under strict guidelines, with just poligrapher and the test subject, and not in some BS wanna be video.
Also, Poopy says he is afraid he will get asked "surprise" questions, like it he is still a bed wetter (despite everyone knowing the answer to that question).
All questions on a polygraph test are predetermined and gone over before test by the person giving the test and the person taking the test.
And all questions have to be agreed to and approved before the test begins.

I do enough for Poopy already, I will not do anything else for him, the lying so and so.
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Posted 03 March 2016 - 07:53 PM

I'll try to explain this again.
Despite what you see on the Batchlor of other TV shows, a professional polygraph test is done under strict guidelines, with just poligrapher and the test subject, and not in some BS wanna be video.
Also, Poopy says he is afraid he will get asked "surprise" questions, like it he is still a bed wetter (despite everyone knowing the answer to that question).
All questions on a polygraph test are predetermined and gone over before test by the person giving the test and the person taking the test.
And all questions have to be agreed to and approved before the test begins.

I do enough for Poopy already, I will not do anything else for him, the lying so and so.

 

Yeah, that's pretty much  bullcheeze isn't it ?


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Posted 03 March 2016 - 08:14 PM

The contracts for the Silver Comet agreement were signed in November 2012..............July to November is only 4 months.   This deal was being discussed before the primary and certainly before the General Election.  They didn't tell us for almost a year.  Know why they come forward?  They needed money and the BOC had to approve the bonds.  It's always been on the taxpayers backs, we back those bonds. 

Not only do we back those bonds we paid the last payment :angry:  :angry:  :angry:


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Posted 03 March 2016 - 08:46 PM

Not only do we back those bonds we paid the last payment :angry:  :angry:  :angry:

 

And the payment for the film studio the IBA didn't make............ :80 :nea:


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Posted 03 March 2016 - 10:55 PM


Well, we all know a guy who used to rail and cry about families "running" the county, but now claims he never said such things.

Even though many many many people have heard his rants.

I guess we know how good he is.

No one other than you has heard me present that analysis of Paulding County's power structure as truth.  I've always seen the county as two different camps - the Dallas and Not-Dallas groups who vie for power and, until the Bill Carruth/Jerry Shearin administrations, traded power every four years.

 

There are influential families but they've generally aligned within one group or another although some 'play' with both.

 

The truth is that the greatest center of consistent political power in the county has been lodged in the law firm which has acquired the institutional knowledge of the county over the last three or four decades.  That institutional knowledge transcends the natural factions in the county.

 

Anyone who has ever read my posts (and has the intelligence to understand them) knows that your comment that I think a few families run Paulding county is far too simple to reflect my beliefs.  I am much more nuanced and that is reflected in long posts full of nuance.

 

So, your allegation is on its face, bullcheeze.

 

It is easy to call a person a liar when you make up what you say they said.  The 'family' thing is just not me and you invented it and that makes you the liar.

 

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Posted 03 March 2016 - 11:03 PM

No one other than you has heard me present that analysis of Paulding County's power structure as truth.  I've always seen the county as two different camps - the Dallas and Not-Dallas groups who vie for power and, until the Bill Carruth/Jerry Shearin administrations, traded power every four years.
 
There are influential families but they've generally aligned within one group or another although some 'play' with both.
 
The truth is that the greatest center of consistent political power in the county has been lodged in the law firm which has acquired the institutional knowledge of the county over the last three or four decades.  That institutional knowledge transcends the natural factions in the county.
 
Anyone who has ever read my posts (and has the intelligence to understand them) knows that your comment that I think a few families run Paulding county is far too simple to reflect my beliefs.  I am much more nuanced and that is reflected in long posts full of nuance.
 
So, your allegation is on its face, bullcheeze.
 
It is easy to call a person a liar when you make up what you say rthey said.  The 'family' thing is just not me and you invented it and that makes you the liar.
 
pubby


You're a sad excuse for a human being.
So many people have heard you sing that tune about the 5 or 6 families.
Watch your step fat boy or you might get a boot in your arse for calling me a liar.

You sad pathetic loser.

Ask Melissa if she's heard you BS about the families.

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Posted 03 March 2016 - 11:10 PM

"I can tell you that Brett Smith was in no mood to immediately jump into Paulding after his rejection ... was it at the end of June or May 2012 ... at Brisco Field."  
 
Really??
 
1. How can you tell anyone, what was in Brett Smith's mind?
 
2. For a guy who, according to you, was in no mood to jump anywhere, it sure appears from the facts that Brett Smith has done everything, but the right thing, try and find some county in GA that will accept his deal.
 
Ohhhhh, just for the record:
2008 - Propeller tries to get a deal with Barrow County
2011 thru June 2012 - Propeller tries to get a deal with Gwinnett County
July 2012 - Propeller is in the midst of putting together a deal with Paulding County
 
Brett Smith reminds me of a guy I went to school with, his pickup line was to just ask girl after girl to hanky panky, his thinking was that sooner or later he would find one that would say yes. 
 
 
 
"We should all remember that even your ally can change his/her mind."
 
Those who hold authority and are in power, have an obligation and a duty to let the people they serve know, what they are changing their minds about and why they are changing their minds about it.
Ohhhhh, and they have an obligation and duty to let the people they work for, know about it before it happens, not after they are found out. 
 
 
As for the rest of your blather, wanna take a polygraph test?
No?
I thought not.
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
Well, we all know a guy who used to rail and cry about families "running" the county, but now claims he never said such things.
Even though many many many people have heard his rants.
I guess we know how good he is.

  



No one other than you has heard me present that analysis of Paulding County's power structure as truth.  I've always seen the county as two different camps - the Dallas and Not-Dallas groups who vie for power and, until the Bill Carruth/Jerry Shearin administrations, traded power every four years.
 
There are influential families but they've generally aligned within one group or another although some 'play' with both.
 
The truth is that the greatest center of consistent political power in the county has been lodged in the law firm which has acquired the institutional knowledge of the county over the last three or four decades.  That institutional knowledge transcends the natural factions in the county.
 
Anyone who has ever read my posts (and has the intelligence to understand them) knows that your comment that I think a few families run Paulding county is far too simple to reflect my beliefs.  I am much more nuanced and that is reflected in long posts full of nuance.
 
So, your allegation is on its face, bullcheeze.
 
It is easy to call a person a liar when you make up what you say they said.  The 'family' thing is just not me and you invented it and that makes you the liar.
 
pubby



Notice how Poopy ignores the facts in my post that refute his drivel and tries to deflect from his lies about Brett Smith.
"If you want any one thing too badly, it's likely to turn out to be a disappointment."
"The only healthy way to live life is to learn to like all the little everyday things, like a sip of good whiskey in the evening, a soft bed, a glass of buttermilk, or a feisty gentleman like myself."




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