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Over the past couple of weeks, especially in the evenings, I've noticed folks with a homeless sign in the parking lot at the Ingles grocery store panhandling for money. Last evening, a man, woman, & small child were up by the UPS - Post Office Mail drop box between Ingles & Wendy's with a homeless sign. Trash was scattered about the area, all over the ground.


I don't want to be mean spirited, but it's becoming an eyesore and a nuisance.



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Over the past couple of weeks, especially in the evenings, I've noticed folks with a homeless sign in the parking lot at the Ingles grocery store panhandling for money. Last evening, a man, woman, & small child were up by the UPS - Post Office Mail drop box between Ingles & Wendy's with a homeless sign. Trash was scattered about the area, all over the ground.
I don't want to be mean spirited, but it's becoming an eyesore and a nuisance.

 

So, are you bothered by the people, or the trash that is on the ground? And, are you ASSuming that they are the ones who threw it there? Did you stop to offer them help? Or, did you just put your nose in the air and drive on by?

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Over the past week or two there has been a man and or woman and child that hang around the New Hope publix. I wonder if it's the same people? My sweet husband bought them a subway gift card last week. I feel so bad for the kids. Maybe somebody can help them out or point them in the right direction.

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Over the past week or two there has been a man and or woman and child that hang around the New Hope publix. I wonder if it's the same people? My sweet husband bought them a subway gift card last week. I feel so bad for the kids. Maybe somebody can help them out or point them in the right direction.

Sadly they are caught between a rock and a hard place. It's hard to get a place to live when you don't have a job, and hard to get a job when you don't have a place to live.

I don't have the answers, i sure wish I did.

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So, are you bothered by the people, or the trash that is on the ground? And, are you ASSuming that they are the ones who threw it there? Did you stop to offer them help? Or, did you just put your nose in the air and drive on by?

While many of the issues may seem small, they have a tendency to grow and multiply when not dealt with. When that happens, they become a much larger issue and can give the impression that nobody cares. Yes, I was bothered by both the homeless people as well as the trash all over the ground. When vagrants or squatters are ignored, they multiply. Next thing you know, we'll have a huge influx of homeless folks. the homeless will have a negative impact on property values, criminal activity will begin to appear or increase, and the quality of life will decline exponentially. Does that sound like the kind of town you'd like to live in? If so, then move to West End or Vine City in Atlanta... Perhaps the sheriff or marshal can give the homeless folks an escort over to the bus station... Send them on down to Atlanta. But they shouldn't be there to harass the shoppers at Ingles Grocery Store.

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While many of the issues may seem small, they have a tendency to grow and multiply when not dealt with. When that happens, they become a much larger issue and can give the impression that nobody cares. Yes, I was bothered by both the homeless people as well as the trash all over the ground. When vagrants or squatters are ignored, they multiply. Next thing you know, we'll have a huge influx of homeless folks. the homeless will have a negative impact on property values, criminal activity will begin to appear or increase, and the quality of life will decline exponentially. Does that sound like the kind of town you'd like to live in? If so, then move to West End or Vine City in Atlanta... Perhaps the sheriff or marshal can give the homeless folks an escort over to the bus station... Send them on down to Atlanta. But they shouldn't be there to harass the shoppers at Ingles Grocery Store.

WOW, so you have never been in a bad spot. I feel very sad for you.

You do know that homeless doesn't automatically equate with criminal activity right? Never mind that was rhetorical.

How are they harassing you? Are they banging on your car as you try to speed away from them? Are they accosting you when you go into the store? Give me a break

Maybe it is YOU who should give them a ride to the nearest shelter/food bank/welfare office. Maybe they have already been, and because the man is with his family they couldn't get any help (yes folks that's a real possibility.) Do you know that they can't (could've changed) get help if they don't have an address? Thank God the kids can still go to school, and maybe the family (as a whole) can get help. We have awesome consulers(sp) in our school system. Yes, even at PCHS.

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While many of the issues may seem small, they have a tendency to grow and multiply when not dealt with. When that happens, they become a much larger issue and can give the impression that nobody cares. Yes, I was bothered by both the homeless people as well as the trash all over the ground. When vagrants or squatters are ignored, they multiply. Next thing you know, we'll have a huge influx of homeless folks. the homeless will have a negative impact on property values, criminal activity will begin to appear or increase, and the quality of life will decline exponentially. Does that sound like the kind of town you'd like to live in? If so, then move to West End or Vine City in Atlanta... Perhaps the sheriff or marshal can give the homeless folks an escort over to the bus station... Send them on down to Atlanta. But they shouldn't be there to harass the shoppers at Ingles Grocery Store.

 

 

It seems to me that you are the harasser, C R B!

 

Why don't you move your hairyass, somewhere where you don't have to put up with homeless folks?

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This is from 2014

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/06/27/3453846/homeless-hate-crimes-up/

 

http://www.apa.org/monitor/2009/12/violence.aspx

 

 

COVER STORY

New insights on homelessness and violence

December 2009, Vol 40, No. 11

Print version: page 62

 

"Criminal activity isn't a staple characteristic of these people," Fischer says. "It may be more accurate to think of them as people struggling to get by."

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WOW, so you have never been in a bad spot. I feel very sad for you.

You do know that homeless doesn't automatically equate with criminal activity right? Never mind that was rhetorical.

How are they harassing you? Are they banging on your car as you try to speed away from them? Are they accosting you when you go into the store? Give me a break

Maybe it is YOU who should give them a ride to the nearest shelter/food bank/welfare office. Maybe they have already been, and because the man is with his family they couldn't get any help (yes folks that's a real possibility.) Do you know that they can't (could've changed) get help if they don't have an address? Thank God the kids can still go to school, and maybe the family (as a whole) can get help. We have awesome consulers(sp) in our school system. Yes, even at PCHS.

Perhaps my topic is insensitive towards the plight of the economically challenged. BTW, right now, school's not in session, so I'm not sure what PCHS counselors have to do with anything.

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Perhaps my topic is insensitive towards the plight of the economically challenged. BTW, right now, school's not in session, so I'm not sure what PCHS counselors have to do with anything.

 

 

No sheeze captain obvious. The point is that while you want to ignore the plight of these folks, there is and will be hope. I forget that not every one knows how to infer information.

However I'm sure it is easier to drive around judging others then it is to help them.

 

 

wait.

isn't littering a crime?

and loitering?

and panhandling?

Yes, I don't know that it is a "crime" per'se, perhaps more of an ordinance. But, those are not the "crimes" that the OP was reffering to. See how I inferred that s/he was indicating much more serious crimes.

 

As far as littering, s/he seemed more concerned about that then the plight of the humans. I would love to catch the litterbugs that toss their nasty McDonalds and other garbage on my lawn as they are heading from or to 61.

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Sorry to read that these people are in this position, especially since there is a child/or children involved. I think maybe sending someone from the sheriff's Dept. might be a good idea, not to arrest them or anything, but just to see what their situation is and how people could help. I think that the sheriff's dept. would be in a better position to also verify what they say is happening to them.

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I don't know about these people, but there are actually people who panhandle as a living. Sorry, if that seems harsh, but I'm no longer surprised at anything. If they honestly need help, someone should offer them a job, tell em that you'll pick him/them up at Ingles at a certain time and see if they show up. My ex often offered this to people standing here and there with a sign (will work for food, etc.) they never showed up.

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School counselors have a wealth of information for people who need help. And high school counselors were back at work as of July 13th.

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Sorry to read that these people are in this position, especially since there is a child/or children involved. I think maybe sending someone from the sheriff's Dept. might be a good idea, not to arrest them or anything, but just to see what their situation is and how people could help. I think that the sheriff's dept. would be in a better position to also verify what they say is happening to them.

^ agree. Just need to send them people who can help if you can't.

 

I don't know about these people, but there are actually people who panhandle as a living. Sorry, if that seems harsh, but I'm no longer surprised at anything. If they honestly need help, someone should offer them a job, tell em that you'll pick him/them up at Ingles at a certain time and see if they show up. My ex often offered this to people standing here and there with a sign (will work for food, etc.) they never showed up.

yea right .... like they would make a TON of $$$s at Ingles in Dallas especially with some around here who would just ignore them than to find them help.

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Assuming that it is the same people, they have been at the Seven Hills Publix and Governor's Towne Club Publix, too. My husband saw them approached by a Paulding County Sheriff at the Seven Hills Publix and told to leave. Then they showed up at the GTC Publix (Cobb Co).

 

I feel bad for ANYONE in a dire situation, but I'm not sure that panhandling with your wife and kid at a grocery store is the answer. I donate to many causes (I just dropped off 70 books to the library today and a whole SUV-full of clothes & household items to Goodwill last weekend), but I will not give a dime to a panhandler. You just cannot trust many of them, sadly.

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I do realize when I give money to people that I might be supporting a panhandling career but when I see kids I can't not help in some way. When my daughter and I were shopping a few weeks ago we came across a family asking for money and they had a baby. I had my daughter roll down her window and hand them a $5 bill. I could tell it made her feel good to do that. Maybe they didn't deserve my money but I was happy I gave my daughter the opportunity to know what it feels like to give. And I hope that when she is grown, she will do the same.

 

I hate to think that this family with kids is making a career out of panhandling. If I see them again maybe I will buy the kids some school supplies.

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I just got home from there and did not see anyone.

 

I was going to get their story

(and some help) :pardon:

 

if you see them again snap a picture and text me 770-833-2175

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I just got home from there and did not see anyone.

 

I was going to get their story

(and some help) :pardon:

 

if you see them again snap a picture and text me 770-833-2175

Thank you for trying Caped Crusader. If I come across them I will stop.

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I just got home from there and did not see anyone.

 

I was going to get their story

(and some help) :pardon:

 

if you see them again snap a picture and text me 770-833-2175

Have I told you how awesome you are lately? Well you are!!

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I'm going to cut and paste something I put on FB last week. It's a true story....I have been trying to help a homeless family for a while now. Once someone hits rock bottom it's very difficult to climb back up. The family that I am helping is a family of three Mom, Dad, Daughter. They have had medical issues and Dad is working two part time jobs. She can't work right now. They are not well educated and are doing the best they can. I have tried MANY resources in Cobb County. The school that she attends has so many homeless students that help is minimal. Shelters typically only take single moms, someone that is on drugs or alcohol, and veterans. Many do not take families.....the ones that I have found to take families either require both Mom and Dad work, they must have a vehicle (this family does not), etc. Many people say call United Way 211....all of these resources were a dead end. Must Ministries is very popular. The have a homeless shelter called the Elizabeth Inn which is the shelter in my post below. They are always full and I KNOW that the people that stay there just need a hand up.....Elizabeth Inn does a breath and drug test before you can enter. While I know that there are people that panhandle and use funds for things other than food and shelter it's hard for me to no lend a helping hand. I just want people to know that I know first hand that there are not many resources at all for people that are a family and are homeless. I am thankful for the churches in their area that have helped them with hotel rooms recently.

My FB post.....

 

"For some time now I have been trying to help a family that has faced some hard times. On numerous occasions, I have taken them to search for resources to help them in their situation. Today, I witnessed some hard truths about our world and my heart hurts so badly. I know that God calls us to make an impact wherever we are……while I firmly believe international missions are necessary; there is plenty of work to be done in our very own communities. I spoke with numerous homeless people today and it is a horrible reality and plight. And, while I know there are people that could help themselves, the folks I met today were not addicted to drugs, alcohol, nor were they deadbeats, they were simply going through an incredibly difficult time! I have rescued many animals and helped many people when I could but today I witnessed the worst possible atrocity and almost brought a young man home with me…..not kidding. As we were waiting in line at a homeless shelter, a man in a van pulled up with a twenty something year old man that was clearly ill. He had a scar on his head and seemed to have some type of disability. The worst part is the man in the van was sent by a hospital to drop this young man off……in his hospital gown! He was going to leave him but soon realized there was no room available at this shelter for this young man. We got him a chair and some water as he was clearly struggling to stand. He told us he lived on the streets in Atlanta and had nowhere to go. Thankfully, the man took him back to the hospital to try to find him a shelter but I was so close to bringing him home. It literally broke my heart in two.

Obviously, my experience today had an impact on me. I want to appeal to people that homelessness and mental health issues are real problems in our own communities. Prayerfully consider donating time or money to these efforts and make a difference in these people’s lives. If you’re not able to donate please pray for these people. These issues are very real…….count your blessings....I'm certainly counting mine tonight."

Trying to help this family has been a true reality check for me....I am counting my blessings.

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You never know these days. You see them standing there with a sign asking for $. Next thing you know they are getting in their newer mobile Mercedes. I just don't think that you should drag your kids with you to panhandle. It's almost like people use their children as props hoping they will get more $.

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What do they look like? We have that going on in PTC and Newnan. They are always out holding signs and begging for money. Its a scam.

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I do realize when I give money to people that I might be supporting a panhandling career but when I see kids I can't not help in some way. When my daughter and I were shopping a few weeks ago we came across a family asking for money and they had a baby. I had my daughter roll down her window and hand them a $5 bill. I could tell it made her feel good to do that. Maybe they didn't deserve my money but I was happy I gave my daughter the opportunity to know what it feels like to give. And I hope that when she is grown, she will do the same.

 

I hate to think that this family with kids is making a career out of panhandling. If I see them again maybe I will buy the kids some school supplies.

See that is what keeps them going, people with good hearts. I know in my area it is a scam. We've had people offer them jobs they don't want it. Cash only. She even puts a pillow underneath her shirt to make it look like shes pregnant. All you can do is call the cops and they make them leave, but they just go somewhere else. http://i561.photobucket.com/albums/ss57/dallasred/th_begging_zpsomfuwluv.mp4

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From what I gather from people who have helped the homeless, is that the real homeless people tend to live in groups and really don't want to be bothered. Sure they will take blankets, food and other things to make life easier but they DONT beg for money.Most of the ones that stand around with signs that say Work for Food are scams...sorry but its true.... but if you feel the need to give them your money to them then go for it...its your money,you can spend it any way you want.

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There have been countless times, countless, that I, Hubby or my children have tried to help people asking for money. We offer to buy a meal and they have demanded cash instead. Especially with Hubby working downtown, it happened all the time. There was ONE time when a young man, very clean cut and polite walked up to our table at Zestos as we were cleaning up. There were 10 of us eating and Zesto portions are huge so we had a ton of food left over. He simply asked for the food on our trays. He explained that he had just gotten out of jail and that his brother was picking him up the next morning, but in the meantime he had no money and was hungry. I wasn't going to give him picked over food, no matter how much was leftover, so we bought him dinner and as we were leaving, Hubby and my SIL went back in and gave him $20.00.

 

Were we conned by someone who may have been lying? Maybe. But when a person is willing to take your leftover food because he's hungry as opposed to a guy on the corner refusing a bottle of water or a meal and insists on cash, I'm going with the guy who wanted food.

 

And as far as putting a total stranger in my car for a ride anywhere, that's never going to happen. Thats absurd in this day and age. I don't care if it's a family, a kid or an old man. Murderers and rapists come in all shapes and sizes and I'm certainly not inviting them into my car.

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There have been countless times, countless, that I, Hubby or my children have tried to help people asking for money. We offer to buy a meal and they have demanded cash instead. Especially with Hubby working downtown, it happened all the time. There was ONE time when a young man, very clean cut and polite walked up to our table at Zestos as we were cleaning up. There were 10 of us eating and Zesto portions are huge so we had a ton of food left over. He simply asked for the food on our trays. He explained that he had just gotten out of jail and that his brother was picking him up the next morning, but in the meantime he had no money and was hungry. I wasn't going to give him picked over food, no matter how much was leftover, so we bought him dinner and as we were leaving, Hubby and my SIL went back in and gave him $20.00.

 

Were we conned by someone who may have been lying? Maybe. But when a person is willing to take your leftover food because he's hungry as opposed to a guy on the corner refusing a bottle of water or a meal and insists on cash, I'm going with the guy who wanted food.

 

And as far as putting a total stranger in my car for a ride anywhere, that's never going to happen. Thats absurd in this day and age. I don't care if it's a family, a kid or an old man. Murderers and rapists come in all shapes and sizes and I'm certainly not inviting them into my car.

 

 

You are a great person, m 3! And, you have a great family. :give_rose:

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Two relatives in another state sometimes get as low as it gets. In both cases they were not willing to work "regularly". One of their employers gave him a bonus if he worked 40 hours in a week. They tried for 2 years to help him but finally had to let him go. He was a drunk; stole things from homes to pawn and sell.

 

The other relative refused to go to a "shelter" because she wouldn't give up drinking to go there; works part time; can't handle full time. Remember that in most cases, most people have advance notice that they are going to be homeless.

 

I also notice when working at the church, people don't want help unless it is cash. I personally worked up a guide for Paulding county with every avenue of help you could think of; it included phone numbers, hours, requirements, free meals if you listen to a short sermon, free clothes. Warehouse of Hope gives you a ton of food for just $10; I hope those asking for help are using some of the free money to take advantage of those programs. It is not easy; but it can be done.

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I have always given money or food to those "begging" on the roads or parking lots. That's not to say I give to everyone I see but I let my heart and common sense guide me. I have never had anyone turn down food or water in my experience. Earlier this year the older black man that stood on the 75/85 ramp downtown was run over and killed. About a month earlier I had given him a bottle of water as I went by and he was very appreciative and drank it like he was really thirsty. He lived under a freaking bridge I don't think he was making millions off of the cold hearted and self righteous. There was a Hispanic family (two adults and two children) near Wendy's last year asking for food not necessarily money. I went in bought a bag of food and a tray of drinks and took them to them. The children and the mother sat right down and ate voraciously. They were freaking hungry. My Grandmother would raise from the grave and whoop my ass if I let someone go hungry when I could help. She had nothing materially but she was a giver. She practiced what the words in red preached. I am sure there are scammers but you know what they have to deal with that not me. If I give with a open heart and my intentions are good I really don't care about their motive. For you believers call it charity. For you skeptics call it Karma but I have never lost a penny or a minute of sleep by helping someone less fortunate than me. For those who can read a persons intentions by simply driving by, you have missed your calling, open a psychic hotline you have a gift.

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I have always given money or food to those "begging" on the roads or parking lots. That's not to say I give to everyone I see but I let my heart and common sense guide me. I have never had anyone turn down food or water in my experience. Earlier this year the older black man that stood on the 75/85 ramp downtown was run over and killed. About a month earlier I had given him a bottle of water as I went by and he was very appreciative and drank it like he was really thirsty. He lived under a freaking bridge I don't think he was making millions off of the cold hearted and self righteous. There was a Hispanic family (two adults and two children) near Wendy's last year asking for food not necessarily money. I went in bought a bag of food and a tray of drinks and took them to them. The children and the mother sat right down and ate voraciously. They were freaking hungry. My Grandmother would raise from the grave and whoop my ass if I let someone go hungry when I could help. She had nothing materially but she was a giver. She practiced what the words in red preached. I am sure there are scammers but you know what they have to deal with that not me. If I give with a open heart and my intentions are good I really don't care about their motive. For you believers call it charity. For you skeptics call it Karma but I have never lost a penny or a minute of sleep by helping someone less fortunate than me. For those who can read a persons intentions by simply driving by, you have missed your calling, open a psychic hotline you have a gift.

 

Made me tear up, thanks for sharing. I'm sure your grandmother is smiling down on you from heaven.

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I have always given money or food to those "begging" on the roads or parking lots. That's not to say I give to everyone I see but I let my heart and common sense guide me. I have never had anyone turn down food or water in my experience. Earlier this year the older black man that stood on the 75/85 ramp downtown was run over and killed. About a month earlier I had given him a bottle of water as I went by and he was very appreciative and drank it like he was really thirsty. He lived under a freaking bridge I don't think he was making millions off of the cold hearted and self righteous. There was a Hispanic family (two adults and two children) near Wendy's last year asking for food not necessarily money. I went in bought a bag of food and a tray of drinks and took them to them. The children and the mother sat right down and ate voraciously. They were freaking hungry. My Grandmother would raise from the grave and whoop my ass if I let someone go hungry when I could help. She had nothing materially but she was a giver. She practiced what the words in red preached. I am sure there are scammers but you know what they have to deal with that not me. If I give with a open heart and my intentions are good I really don't care about their motive. For you believers call it charity. For you skeptics call it Karma but I have never lost a penny or a minute of sleep by helping someone less fortunate than me. For those who can read a persons intentions by simply driving by, you have missed your calling, open a psychic hotline you have a gift.

Wow, twins.

 

Every year at Christmas we are bombarded with help the poor campaigns. Dickens wrote A Christmas Carol and it is played in various forms adnausum (sp) every year. The gimmick works, but it seems that folks forget that the poor, and homeless are still poor, and homeless all year long.

 

Yes, there are those that will take advantage of you, but that doesn't mean that you should become so cynical as not to help. You never know when you will touch some one so deeply that it helps them get off the street.

If you've never been there thank God for that. If you have, don't ever forget, and remember to return what was given.

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Last evening, around 6:00 pm, the man was there again with a child.....same location, bags on the ground, holding a sign.........Is the mayor of Dallas going to put the pressure on these folks or let squatters take over?

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The City of Dallas starts on Main Street at the fountain and stops at the end of Confederate avenue. I don't believe Ingles would qualify under city jurisdiction

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I hope none of you that are making assumptions consider yourself Christian. Think the savior acted the same towards others. If you are so worried about what a plight these people cause your wonderful county then give them all you have. You people kill me with the rhinking that homeless people are such a burden or are all a bunch of scam artists. I want the shriners to stop messing up intersections. They only give about 1% to the hospital that is donated anyways. But since half of You crying about vagrants are mason you don't see a double standard.

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