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“It gave me an amplifying capability to help people stay safe,” he said. On the cable broadcast, he implored people to stay off the roads. “I thought people needed to hear that from me.”

 

Really?! You felt that you had to get on TV by the emergency lanes, to tell people to stay off the roads, when they were trying to get home? WOW!!! You must think, we are a bunch of idiots running around with no brains in our heads.

 

Reed’s spokesman Carlos Campos, who also traveled to the station, said the interview was in line with the demands of a mayor during a major event. And he stressed Friday that no police officers were taken off the street to escort the mayor and himself, noting Reed is routinely driven by his executive protection team.

 

“People expect to hear from their leaders during crises, and we attempted to accommodate as many media interview requests as possible,” he said.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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If he had time to do that, he had time to "activate" his "plan" to use his famous "120 pieces of equipment" that he kept bragging about! JMO of course.

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If he had time to do that, he had time to "activate" his "plan" to use his famous "120 pieces of equipment" that he kept bragging about! JMO of course.

 

 

 

 

The press has crucified him and he earned it.

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I don't see the outrage on this. Of course the mayor had a duty to publicly speak on the situation and his duties required travel. While everyone is fixated on the people leaving the city the mayor still had a city full of people who live there. A request to stay of the roads if you can is nothing but logical.

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I barely hld Reed responsible. He is only mayor of Atlanta.....anything outside of the city's limits falls to someone else.....and no one is even mentioning those other people/mayors.

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I barely hld Reed responsible. He is only mayor of Atlanta.....anything outside of the city's limits falls to someone else.....and no one is even mentioning those other people/mayors.

 

 

....and most of the complaints were in reference to state controlled roadways.

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The problem I have with the mayor of Atlanta is that he represents not just Atlanta, but the entire metro area when he is looking like an idiot in national interviews.

 

The powers that be have made all of us look like back-woods hicks that don't know how to act when that cold fluffy stuff falls from the sky...

 

And that is bad, really bad.

 

Then the idiot mayor gets on national shows and makes us look even worse.

 

So a big thanks to the mayor of Atlanta and to all of the well-educated, very well-informed voters in the city of Atlanta.

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The problem I have with the mayor of Atlanta is that he represents not just Atlanta, but the entire metro area when he is looking like an idiot in national interviews.

 

The powers that be have made all of us look like back-woods hicks that don't know how to act when that cold fluffy stuff falls from the sky...

 

And that is bad, really bad.

 

Then the idiot mayor gets on national shows and makes us look even worse.

 

So a big thanks to the mayor of Atlanta and to all of the well-educated, very well-informed voters in the city of Atlanta.

 

That he did!

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He used a police executive protection escort to leave the city to do an in studio nationwide broadcast.

 

If the information was so important to get out nationwide, he could have done it by telephone.

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He just struck me as a whiner, complaining that everyone was blaming him when his responsibility is only the city of Atlanta. That he was not responsible for what happened on the interstates. He acted like his feelings were hurt.

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He's an idiot who thinks only of himself.  He has since apologized in general terms for the problems during the storm, and said something like "I care about each and every one of you who was stranded and affected by the storm."  Yeah, he says that NOW but during the event he cared only about how he looked to the nation.

 

 

 

Not only that, but how did going on a nationwide tv channel help keep people on the roadways safe?  Were they watching tv while they were stuck on 285, etc.?  The time for action, for a TRUE leader, is way BEFORE a crisis, not the morning of, or during, or after.  Again I say, the only person he is truly concerned about is Kasim Reed.

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Reed was taking the opportunity to get in front of every media outlet he could because he has higher political aspirations and wants to build his name recognition outside Atlanta.

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Reed was taking the opportunity to get in front of every media outlet he could because he has higher political aspirations and wants to build his name recognition outside Atlanta.

BINGO!

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Reed was taking the opportunity to get in front of every media outlet he could because he has higher political aspirations and wants to build his name recognition outside Atlanta.

 

 

You are correct. What I didn't understand was the platinum blonde Democrat sleeze ripped him a new one.

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Some people get it and some people don't. It's a matter of common sense. What's common, around here, is uncommon in the rest of the country.

 

Reed is more popular than Deal, now! Deal tries to say the buck stops here, but common sense, around here, doesn't get that.

 

The Dark Charisma of Adolph Hitler was an amazing situation, in Germany. That's on TV next week, sometime.

 

Reed has people across the Nation thinking he is more powerful than the Governor, and all 60 of the other city Mayors in Georgia.

 

The next thing you know, somebody with the kind of common sense, that is prevalent around here, will be wanting to kill Reed, just like some Germans wanted to kill Hitler.

 

It doesn't even matter how much Dark Charisma Deal has, because common sense won't give him the credit.

 

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Reed was taking the opportunity to get in front of every media outlet he could because he has higher political aspirations and wants to build his name recognition outside Atlanta.

 

Let's hope his career fizzles, as it should.

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Let's hope his career fizzles, as it should.

 

 

I don't think your father ever discussed the Dark Charisma of the WWII in Germany, ABR!

 

Reed is darker than the President.

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I don't think your father ever discussed the Dark Charisma of the WWII in Germany, ABR!

 

Reed is darker than the President.

 

I am unconcerned about Mr. Reed's color. And, we do not have a President.

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<br />I am unconcerned about Mr. Reed's color. And, we do not have a President.<br />

 

I wonder why he feels it's important to bring in Hitler and race in this discussion when neither have anything to do with it.

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I am unconcerned about Mr. Reed's color. And, we do not have a President.

 

 

It's because of common sense, ABR!

 

Common sense tells you that Reed had more control over the snow jam than ant Mayor North of the City of Atlanta, East of the city of Atlanta, South, of the city of Atlanta, West of the city of Atlanta, and all of the towns in between.

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<br />You are correct.  What I didn't understand was the platinum blonde Democrat sleeze ripped him a new one.<br />

 

I think it backfired, but they say even bad publicity builds name recognition and people have short memories.

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I wonder why he feels it's important to bring in Hitler and race in this discussion when neither have anything to do with it.

 

 

Common sense is a learned characteristic E Z! You are not born with it. It comes from what you've been told, what you've learned in school, and how you think things ought to be.

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I was surprised that the anti-airport bunch didn't jump to Kasim's defense. I thought they were in bed with each other.

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ATLANTA (AP) — Atlanta's mayor is defending his use of emergency lanes at the height of Tuesday's icy traffic jam so he could do an interview at The Weather Channel's studios.

 

Mayor Kasim Reed's spokesman Carlos Campos said Saturday that he, Reed and police officers normally assigned to the mayor traveled in two cars equipped with blue lights to reach the station's suburban Atlanta headquarters.

 

It happened early Tuesday evening on Interstate 75, at a time when emergency responders were trying to help the thousands of motorists stranded on the jammed highway.

 

"We had no issues getting up there. There was never a moment when — I don't believe there was ever a moment where we interfered with anything," Campos told The Associated Press. "The emergency lanes were pretty clear."

 

The mayor's use of emergency lanes was first reported by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. The action has sparked anger from motorists who tried to stay warm in their cars or abandoned them to seek shelter in businesses along I-75 and other freeways around metro Atlanta.

 

Campos said they believed that communicating to the largest possible audience during the crisis was important, and an interview with The Weather Channel was a way to accomplish that.

 

"The Weather Channel asked us to come up and we did," Campos told the AP.

 

"I thought it was important that he communicate often and that he be visible," Campos added. "People expect to hear from their leaders during crisis."

 

Campos said one aspect of the trip "needs to be made super clear."

 

"We did not take any police officers off their beat," he said. "These are plain-clothes officers that are assigned to him all the time."

 

 

 

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<br />If he had time to do that, he had time to &quot;activate&quot; his &quot;plan&quot; to use his famous &quot;120 pieces of equipment&quot; that he kept bragging about! JMO of course.<br />
<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />So he was supposed to go out and the use the equipment himself? Edited by ihaveadog

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<br />The problem I have with the mayor of Atlanta is that he represents not just Atlanta, but the entire metro area when he is looking like an idiot in national interviews.<br /><br />The powers that be have made all of us look like back-woods hicks that don't know how to act when that cold fluffy stuff falls from the sky...<br /><br />And that is bad, really bad.<br /><br />Then the idiot mayor gets on national shows and makes us look even worse.<br /><br />So a big thanks to the mayor of Atlanta and to all of the well-educated, very well-informed voters in the city of Atlanta.<br />
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...and our govenor too! To say that "we were taken by surprise" only shows he had no clue, has no clue, and never will have any clue!!

 

I had friends from all ove the country calling me and asking who the heck our idiot govenor is, ans why we elected him. He was at home, in bed, and not paying any attention to anything, as we were about to be broadsided by a huge storm. He could have taken action in advance of the storm, but did not because he didn't even know it was coming-REALLY!!!

 

How many of us parents stayed up all night, watching the weather, and trying to decide if we shoud keep the kids home? We depended on the gov't to make a good call, and I will never do that again. Glad mine made it home safe and in a timely manner, but many did not make it home on time, and suffered for the mistakes made by our leaders.

 

...and as far as Reed- SHAME ON YOU,not for his remarks, or even taking the emergency lane (after all, it was an emergency) Shame on you for not preparing the roads in advance, for not being aware and ready, and for trying to pretend you have a clue about what to do in a snow or ice emerency-you don't.

 

You didn't prepare the roads, because you didn't want to use funds and material that would dip into the budget. Listen up-THOSE FUNDS AND MATERIALS ARE FOR EMERGENCIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They did us no good on the roads after the emergency-you wasted the city's money!!! Go back and try to learn how to do your job right-you have all the resources to do that, you are just to stubborn and full of yourself to understand that there is so much more to do and learn.

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...and as far as Reed- SHAME ON YOU,not for his remarks, or even taking the emergency lane (after all, it was an emergency) Shame on you for not preparing the roads in advance, for not being aware and ready, and for trying to pretend you have a clue about what to do in a snow or ice emerency-you don't.

 

You didn't prepare the roads, because you didn't want to use funds and material that would dip into the budget. Listen up-THOSE FUNDS AND MATERIALS ARE FOR EMERGENCIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They did us no good on the roads after the emergency-you wasted the city's money!!! Go back and try to learn how to do your job right-you have all the resources to do that, you are just to stubborn and full of yourself to understand that there is so much more to do and learn.

 

Not preparing what roads? Sand and salt spread before a storm is wasted because it washes away. Second, the main problem of the interstates is not maintained by the city.

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Not preparing what roads? Sand and salt spread before a storm is wasted because it washes away. Second, the main problem of the interstates is not maintained by the city.

 

 

The brine pre-treatment has to be applied and allowed to dry before the frozen precipitation begins to be effective.

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The problem is when the Governor and state agency heads went to bed, the predictions for Atlanta were for just a small dusting if anything. Why would anyone expect them to sit up all night watching the weather in case something changes?

 

(In fact, how many parents REALLY spent the night watching the weather rather than sleeping?)

 

What needed to happen was when the warning was issued, someone in state government needed to notify the appropriate state agency leaders who would in turn notify the governor. That's something that obviously wasn't in place that hopefully will be in the future.

 

Realistically, how often does something happen as fast as this did - the snow started a mere 8 hours after the warning was issued, and even the warning missed the by a few hours.

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The problem is when the Governor and state agency heads went to bed, the predictions for Atlanta were for just a small dusting if anything. Why would anyone expect them to sit up all night watching the weather in case something changes?

 

(In fact, how many parents REALLY spent the night watching the weather rather than sleeping?)

 

What needed to happen was when the warning was issued, someone in state government needed to notify the appropriate state agency leaders who would in turn notify the governor. That's something that obviously wasn't in place that hopefully will be in the future.

 

Realistically, how often does something happen as fast as this did - the snow started a mere 8 hours after the warning was issued, and even the warning missed the by a few hours.

 

 

I can't understand why there was such a problem, markdavd!

 

I would hate for a war to have been going on, or even a terrorist attack. The Generals were in bed asleep, and nobody sought their advise. The Weather Warning was issued at :38 o'clock AM, nearly 6 hours before Governor Deal was notified. The people who watch Atlanta TV was not alerted before leaving for work, ot school, that day.

 

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You'd be right if we were talking about the president and war. We're not.

 

I would hope someone would wake the governor if there were a terrorist attack. The question is who should be responsible for notifying the Governor if a weather warning is issued?

 

BTW - The warning was issued at 3:38, not :38. That's a 3 hours difference.

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You'd be right if we were talking about the president and war. We're not.

 

I would hope someone would wake the governor if there were a terrorist attack. The question is who should be responsible for notifying the Governor if a weather warning is issued?

 

BTW - The warning was issued at 3:38, not :38. That's a 3 hours difference.

 

A terrorist attack would not have involved the whole of North Georgia as wide spread as the snow storm did, markdavd1

 

Even though the warning was issued at 3:38 AM, Deal didn't know about it until he got to work, at 9 o'clock. There was no time to get on the news, at 5:00 or 6:00 AM, before kids left for school, and before parents left for work. I turn my TV, about 5:00 AM, even on Sunday.

 

BTW - If you're not prepared ahead of time, which means the 3:38 warning allows you over 5 hours to get prepared, then you're bound for disappointment when reality hits the state. It's the difference in expecting A and getting B. Over 5 hours was enough time to prepare for "B" before it hit.

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<br />The problem is when the Governor and state agency heads went to bed, the predictions for Atlanta were for just a small dusting if anything. Why would anyone expect them to sit up all night watching the weather in case something changes?<br /><br />(In fact, how many parents REALLY spent the night watching the weather rather than sleeping?)<br /><br />What needed to happen was when the warning was issued, someone in state government needed to notify the appropriate state agency leaders who would in turn notify the governor.  That's something that obviously wasn't in place that hopefully will be in the future. <br /><br />Realistically, how often does something happen as fast as this did - the snow started a mere 8 hours after the warning was issued, and even the warning missed the by a few hours.<br />

 

My mother still sits up all night watching the weather and has no children at home anymore. So yes, I expect them to.

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<br />Not preparing what roads?  Sand and salt spread before a storm is wasted because it washes away.  Second, the main problem of the interstates is not maintained by the city.<br />
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I am talking about the city roads-the ones inside of ATL, the ones that were backed up with cars trying to get out of the city and go home.Up north, they salt the streets before the snow falls-JUST BEFORE, not days before or even the night before. Someone is in charge of watching the weather, and just before the storm hits, the trucks are sent out and they get the streets ready.

 

We knew late the night before that we were going to be hit with a big snow event. At that time, they thought it would be about 2 o'clock when it got here. By morning, it was snowing a little(I went to bed about 1 o'clock),and they should have know the timing moved up. Someone should have been monitoring the storm, but no one was-NO-ONE!!!!

 

Those trucks should have been on the street at least an hour or so before the 1st snowflake hit the ground. It wouldn't have washed away-there was no rain coming-it was to cold. Sending trucks out after traffic was snarled, after the snow and ice made the roads unuseable, and after the traffic clogged every road in the city was useless!!!

 

The only salt/cinder truck I saw, was a Dallas city truck, in downtown Dallas on business 6 at about 1 o'clock, and thank God it was there, or that's where I would have been stuck with a lot of other people trying to get up that big hill to the old court house.

 

Atlanta workers still insist that they never saw even one truck, and the Mayor himself said that they "couldn't get the trucks out to where they were needed because the streets were closed down with traffic and unpassable". They were not unpassable just before the snow and ice came-at about 7:00, when those trucks should have been sent out to do their job. Then at 9:00, when the snow came, the streets would have been driveable. The snow, when it melted because of the cars driving over it, would not have turned to ice. Cars would have been able to navigate the hills and there would have been no sheets of glass to send people careening into each other.

 

That is the point I was trying to make-not about the interstates-that was another dropped ball!! Our local streets suffered the same fate for the same reason-everyone waited to long, and the reason was that they hoped to not use the equipment and materials, and save money. I like saving my tax money, but not when it means we don't receive important services. Safety is an important service!!!

 

How many of us had our cars wrecked, our lives turned upside down while we waited to get our cars fixed(I still haven't had an adjuster show up -they have an "overload" of work!!!), our nerves frazzled while we drove in harrowing conditions for hours(it took me 5 1/2 hours to get to New Georgia from the Dallas post office), or waited for our loved ones to get home safely, especially our children on the school buses ( you know, those buses that don't have to have seat belts like we do). I am soooooo glad no one died here because of it, at least on the 1st day anyway!!

 

When you consider all the money wasted by our public officials on travel, dinners,reports ,surveys,studies, expenditures that were never needed, and just some of those things we have all heard of and can't believe, you can see why holding off a little longer to save the money for SALT and CINDER (relatively cheap stuff), was ridiculous.

 

AND...that is what it came down to-just wait, maybe we won't need to use it, and then it will sit around for another year, and we will wait that year too (probably to long again). So, we all WAITED-in traffic, in danger, in fear for ourselves and others.

 

While I'm at it, let me vent on just one more thing. Having finally made it to 61, by the high school, I was at the top of the next big hill I'd have to make it over. After waiting for about 1 1/2 hours for my turn to navigate the hill( you all know what I mean-we all patiently waited turns so that we could take the dangerous trip down and up a hill alone-with no one in the way to crash into. This way, if we didn't make it, only we wrecked. SSOO-I start down (my heart in my throat), trying to keep traction with the road (RIGHT), and knowing I had to gain some speed before climbing the hill, when someone in the lane going the other way, backs up into my lane to tow another car out of a ditch. He obviously saw me coming, he knew how we were all trying to make the hill, but he pulled in front of me and stopped. Well, there was no braking on the down slope-I'd have lost traction and really been in trouble. So I prayed, and manuvered, and prayed more, and came to a stop almost touching that truck. Wide eyed and shaking, I asked the young man what he thought he was doing-really!! He said he was a "good samaritan" helping out. Somewhat exasperated, I told him what an idiot he was-he almost caused a serious accident, and could have waited to back up into my lane. He got nasty, and verbal. I told him he was wrong, and should have assessed the situation better-a "good samaritan" does not cause others to crash-it doesn't help to help one person, and put another in a hospital or in the ground!! Do you know what he told me?? You better shut up, or I'll put you in handcuffs-a police officer???? Really???? Well, he could have been lying, or maybe he wasn't. I just had to leave, and shake my head in amazement!!!

 

I really do hope that wasn't one of Gary's men-this is not the kind of person we need to protect and serve!!! I hope it was just someone lying to cover his useless a$$, and intimidating me into shutting up about his careless endangerment of me and anyone else trying to walk along that road at that moment(and there were several walking as I slid past them). I still can't get over it-the stupidity of the man/kid/whatever!!

 

Thanks for hearing me out-that's been on my mind since it happened. I think we have a great sherriffs dept, and our local police officers are the best! I really hope the guy was lying, because a person like that in a position of authority is a danger to the community. He put his own ideas and needs before sensibility and safety-what a jerk!!

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