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What Blue fails to realize is, when you have 50,000 or more people packed into a football stadium, there are going to be quite a few asshats present regardless of where the stadium is located, if it's NCAA or NFL football, or what conference the teams are from. The problem is compounded when these asshats drink alcohol just before the game or during the game.

 

Blue does know this though. He just wants everyone to think he's superior and the people from the south are nothing more than a bunch of redneck morons. He knows damn well there are a bunch of redneck morons in the north as well and many of them live in Michigan.

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Whether her actions are deemed justified or not, she should have went to jail like any guy would have to. Like the guy she attacked would have to had he retaliated. Anyone that attacks another person should be locked up.

 

GONE! SHE SHOULD HAVE GONE TO JAIL. DAMMIT JIM!

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The white trash fans that root for these SEC schools is amazing. Most of them don't have a GED let alone a prayer of going to the school they are so "die hard" about. It's not just Bama. Its ALL OF THEM. I have been to home games at almost every SEC football and basketball arena. She is the norm, not the exception....and I know I will catch hell for this but the only place worse then Bama, is UGA for this kind of thing from what I have seen.

 

 

 

 

 

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GONE! SHE SHOULD HAVE GONE TO JAIL. DAMMIT JIM!

 

She definitely should have gone to jail. I read an article where she was interviewed. She said an OU fan was harassing her son. She said she had a few alcoholic drinks, but she was not intoxicated. Riiiiiight.

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Yes, we all know that poor white trash redneck southerners are the ONLY people who cause problems at sporting events. You yankees are perfect and have never behaved in a manner that would make your mother ashamed of you.

 

http://www.totalprosports.com/2011/01/28/9-examples-of-fans-behaving-badly/

 

 

In 1989, the Cowboys went to visit their division rivals, the Philadelphia Eagles at Veterans Stadium. The snow hadn't been cleared out of the stadium in a few days, so the Eagles fans did the polite thing and pelted the holy hell out of the Cowboys, including coach Jimmy Johnson.

J.D. Drew had left the Phillies after an impasse in contract negotiations, so when he came back to Philly as a Cardinal, one can imagine how hospitable the fans were. That is to say, not at all. In fact, instead of rolling out the red carpet, they chucked batteries at him. Who brings batteries to a ball game to throw at athletes? Any fan in Philadelphia, that's who. Stay classy.

Hey, what do you know? We're back in Philly for this one, only this time it's hockey fans. One has to wonder if they knew who the target of their vandalism was in this instance or if it's just a bad coincidence. In any event, Pat Hickey of the Montreal Gazette stepped out of the Wachovia Center to find three of his tires slashed and the bug deflector (!) ripped off of his car after a Canadiens-Flyers game. Well, at least they do their homework.

Everyone likes to step their game up against Duke, including the fans. However, when the fans don't have anything clever up their sleeve, they will often just get loud and violent as Maryland fans did in March of 2010 against the Blue Devils. 27 fans were arrested, beer bottles were thrown, and you can clearly hear the "F*** Duke" chants on Youtube videos. Not their finest hour.

When a little kid is wearing a Jets jersey to a Browns game, one would expect a bit of immunity from the taunts and heckles that get tossed to fans wearing the opposing colors. On account of the fact that, you know, he's 8. Well, Cleveland fans showed him no quarter, screaming profanities at him until he had to be escorted out by his parents, crying. Cleveland fans have a lot of pent-up rage because their team has been awful since time immemorial, but there's no excuse for this behavior.

Just because a football team is comprised of members that have signed up to die for their country doesn't mean that fans of the Scarlett Knights aren't going to give them hell. At a Rutgers game in 2007, fans decided to show their thanks to the Navy players with the repetitive drone "F*** Navy, f*** Navy" etc, etc. Well, that's one way to go about it. Not New Jersey's finest hour. Does New Jersey even have a finest hour?

 

New York Yankees fans were a little miffed they were getting outdone in the ALCS, so they responded the only way they knew how: by chucking trash at the Rangers bullpen. Their well-thought-out plan didn't work very well, as they lost the game and the series, but I'm sure if they keep up that type of behavior, they'll enjoy a long, fruitful streak of victory and enjoy the respect of teams throughout the league. So don't go giving up on that behavior because it didn't work out, NYC. No one likes a quitter.

Matthew Clemens was being a little profane for the tastes of the father and daughter sitting in front of him at a Philly's game, so when his friend was escorted out for being drunk and loud, Clemens did the decent thing and gagged himself and threw up all over the father, an off-duty police officer. Fortunately, this deed did not go unpunished, and Clemens was hit with an aggravated assault charge.

 

 

So glad to see being drunk and redneck is not an exclusive of southerners and people who live in the south.

 

 

BTW, GB, you couldn't pay me enough to go up north.

 

 

I'm sure the few pints of moonshine she drank don't help matters. She could barely stand up.

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What Blue fails to realize is, when you have 50,000 or more people packed into a football stadium, there are going to be quite a few asshats present regardless of where the stadium is located, if it's NCAA or NFL football, or what conference the teams are from. The problem is compounded when these asshats drink alcohol just before the game or during the game.

 

Blue does know this though. He just wants everyone to think he's superior and the people from the south are nothing more than a bunch of redneck morons. He knows damn well there are a bunch of redneck morons in the north as well and many of them live in Michigan.

 

You skip the post where I said it happens everywhere or just choose to ignore it cause it didn't fit your purpose?

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Yes, we all know that poor white trash redneck southerners are the ONLY people who cause problems at sporting events. You yankees are perfect and have never behaved in a manner that would make your mother ashamed of you.

 

http://www.totalprosports.com/2011/01/28/9-examples-of-fans-behaving-badly/

 

 

In 1989, the Cowboys went to visit their division rivals, the Philadelphia Eagles at Veterans Stadium. The snow hadn't been cleared out of the stadium in a few days, so the Eagles fans did the polite thing and pelted the holy hell out of the Cowboys, including coach Jimmy Johnson.

J.D. Drew had left the Phillies after an impasse in contract negotiations, so when he came back to Philly as a Cardinal, one can imagine how hospitable the fans were. That is to say, not at all. In fact, instead of rolling out the red carpet, they chucked batteries at him. Who brings batteries to a ball game to throw at athletes? Any fan in Philadelphia, that's who. Stay classy.

Hey, what do you know? We're back in Philly for this one, only this time it's hockey fans. One has to wonder if they knew who the target of their vandalism was in this instance or if it's just a bad coincidence. In any event, Pat Hickey of the Montreal Gazette stepped out of the Wachovia Center to find three of his tires slashed and the bug deflector (!) ripped off of his car after a Canadiens-Flyers game. Well, at least they do their homework.

Everyone likes to step their game up against Duke, including the fans. However, when the fans don't have anything clever up their sleeve, they will often just get loud and violent as Maryland fans did in March of 2010 against the Blue Devils. 27 fans were arrested, beer bottles were thrown, and you can clearly hear the "F*** Duke" chants on Youtube videos. Not their finest hour.

When a little kid is wearing a Jets jersey to a Browns game, one would expect a bit of immunity from the taunts and heckles that get tossed to fans wearing the opposing colors. On account of the fact that, you know, he's 8. Well, Cleveland fans showed him no quarter, screaming profanities at him until he had to be escorted out by his parents, crying. Cleveland fans have a lot of pent-up rage because their team has been awful since time immemorial, but there's no excuse for this behavior.

Just because a football team is comprised of members that have signed up to die for their country doesn't mean that fans of the Scarlett Knights aren't going to give them hell. At a Rutgers game in 2007, fans decided to show their thanks to the Navy players with the repetitive drone "F*** Navy, f*** Navy" etc, etc. Well, that's one way to go about it. Not New Jersey's finest hour. Does New Jersey even have a finest hour?

 

New York Yankees fans were a little miffed they were getting outdone in the ALCS, so they responded the only way they knew how: by chucking trash at the Rangers bullpen. Their well-thought-out plan didn't work very well, as they lost the game and the series, but I'm sure if they keep up that type of behavior, they'll enjoy a long, fruitful streak of victory and enjoy the respect of teams throughout the league. So don't go giving up on that behavior because it didn't work out, NYC. No one likes a quitter.

Matthew Clemens was being a little profane for the tastes of the father and daughter sitting in front of him at a Philly's game, so when his friend was escorted out for being drunk and loud, Clemens did the decent thing and gagged himself and threw up all over the father, an off-duty police officer. Fortunately, this deed did not go unpunished, and Clemens was hit with an aggravated assault charge.

 

 

So glad to see being drunk and redneck is not an exclusive of southerners and people who live in the south.

 

 

BTW, GB, you couldn't pay me enough to go up north.

 

Some of you have reading issues. I'm not talking about baseball pro football soccer etc. I specifically said college football and basketball. I'm talking from experience. We have more damage more drunks more fights at games in the south then anywhere else. I wish I could post the bills on line to show you all. It's not make believe. I never said it doesn't everywhere else but it isn't nearly as bad.

 

I could also careless if you wouldn't move up North but I'm guessing if your entire family lived up there you may feel differently. Now I have to go catch a plane to the Rose Bowl. Ya'll have fun in the freezing cold.

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I'm not in the freezing cold thank you very much. Wouldn't set foot in California if you paid me. Used to want to move there. No more.

 

Most of my family lives in Georgia. I don't. Much better that way. And that's another place I really don't care to ever go again. I went back in protest in March, April and July. I swore in July that I wouldn't go back up there.

 

When ESPN surveyed campus police at the nation's largest public college football stadiums to see how many people they eject, ticket and arrest for rude or illegal behavior on game day, the responses were far from uniform. University of Michigan officials, for example, provided a precise breakdown of hundreds of arrests, citations and ejections cross-tabulated by game and offense at "The Big House" for the past several years. But University of Alabama officials couldn't produce a single number for Bryant-Denny Stadium.

 

 

 

Consider the disparity among some of the larger stadiums in the Big 12 Conference alone. Oklahoma reported nine arrests all of last season. Nebraska logged just one. Texas A&M tallied seven. And Texas officials arrested 63.

And this is REALLY interesting:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=4605081

 

Michigan officials provided a cross-tabulated breakdown of arrests, citations and ejections by game and type of incident (ticket scalping, assault, disorderly conduct, etc.) dating back to 2002. In 2008, they logged 109 citations, 117 ejections and 56 arrests, of which 38 were for underage drinking. About 40 percent of all incidents occurred at the Oct. 25 game against Michigan State.

Some of you have reading issues. I'm not talking about baseball pro football soccer etc. I specifically said college football and basketball. I'm talking from experience. We have more damage more drunks more fights at games in the south then anywhere else. I wish I could post the bills on line to show you all. It's not make believe. I never said it doesn't everywhere else but it isn't nearly as bad.

 

I could also careless if you wouldn't move up North but I'm guessing if your entire family lived up there you may feel differently. Now I have to go catch a plane to the Rose Bowl. Ya'll have fun in the freezing cold.

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Wasn't she drunk? They were picking on her son? He's 16. He's grown. Wow, what a good role model she is.

 

If she were a man, she would have been arrested.

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I wasn't there, I don't know all of the details. I do know that I see an awful lot of "men" taunting her. I think that my husband and sons would have just been gentlemen and walked away. Also, if they were messing with my kids in any way, shape or form, I may have reacted the same way. I can't say how I would react in the heat of the moment.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Wasn't she drunk? They were picking on her son? He's 16. He's grown. Wow, what a good role model she is.

 

If she were a man, she would have been arrested.

 

I bet she stands on the front porch and watches him get on the school bus.8)

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I bet she stands on the front porch and watches him get on the school bus.8)

 

 

 

Case in point.

 

 

 

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What Blue fails to realize is, when you have 50,000 or more people packed into a football stadium, there are going to be quite a few asshats present regardless of where the stadium is located, if it's NCAA or NFL football, or what conference the teams are from. The problem is compounded when these asshats drink alcohol just before the game or during the game.

 

Exactly.

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She said she had a few alcoholic drinks, but she was not intoxicated. Riiiiiight.

 

 

HAHA. You can tell by the way she is stumbling around prior to jumping on them that she is a little tipsy. I'd like to think that a woman her age when of sound mind would not do something like that, so if I were her, I'd be using the "I had a few too many" defense like crazy.

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Some of you have reading issues. I'm not talking about baseball pro football soccer etc. I specifically said college football and basketball. I'm talking from experience. We have more damage more drunks more fights at games in the south then anywhere else. I wish I could post the bills on line to show you all. It's not make believe. I never said it doesn't everywhere else but it isn't nearly as bad.

 

I could also careless if you wouldn't move up North but I'm guessing if your entire family lived up there you may feel differently. Now I have to go catch a plane to the Rose Bowl. Ya'll have fun in the freezing cold.

 

Why even get into any of this? Someone posted a video of a single fan acting a fool, and you for whatever reason go off on a tangent slamming SEC fans in-general as if we are all linked to that one fan who had a few too many and could not take trash talking from opposing fans. Then you try and act like you're the authority of all fans and brag about getting to travel to all of these venues.

 

Get off of your high horse and realize that you aren't better than any of us.

 

Wasn't she drunk? They were picking on her son? He's 16. He's grown. Wow, what a good role model she is.

 

If she were a man, she would have been arrested.

 

She would have gotten arrested after that group of guys beat the living hell out of him. No way would they have been simply trying to constrain him and call for security like they were with that woman.

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I wasn't there, I don't know all of the details. I do know that I see an awful lot of "men" taunting her. I think that my husband and sons would have just been gentlemen and walked away. Also, if they were messing with my kids in any way, shape or form, I may have reacted the same way. I can't say how I would react in the heat of the moment.

 

This article sums it up pretty nicely.

 

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You can say what you want to about Alabama fans, the lady was wrong, but so were the men who kept it going. I grew up in the midst of the Ohio State v. Michigan rivalry and there were as many drunk blue collar factory fans as there are drunk redneck Alabama fans. It's not a market we have cornered.

 

But answer me this. How redneck and white trash can you be and still afford to be a Tide fan that attends games? I lost my season tickets back when I divorced my husband, but we paid $800 annual donation just for the privileged of purchasing home game tickets which we had to buy at face value. This was before Nick Saban and all the success, and our tickets were nosebleed. Add on top of that, we tailgated for every home game which involved driving 3 hours from Atlanta getting a hotel, buying tailgate paraphernalia that included portable grills, satellites, pop up tents, coolers, etc. And that was low class tailgating. We didn't own an expensive motor home. And that doesn't count the away games, bowl games, etc.

 

Yes there are riff raff and sidewalk alums, just as there are in any fan base, but I like being a part of a fanbase that poisons the rivals trees, that tee-bags passed out men at Krystals, that has a mom get in a fight with a rival fan. Know why? Because it means we are passionate. We don't hope Auburn wins tonight, we hope they lose by 20 touchdowns. We hope they get picked up on an NCAA violation. We are passionate about our team, our coach, and our other fans.

 

By the way I am a 2001 graduate from The University of Alabama, my children, should they be so lucky to attend, will be 4th generation Tiders. Both my mother in law and father and law graduated from Alabama, as well as my husbands grandfather. I love that University, and I am so proud to be a part of it warts and all.

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Silly me. I would think that the police would investigate and talk to witnesses who actually SAW the incident and then decide if charges should be brought.

 

Oh, and welcome to Pcom. Let the fun begin.

 

From the video, she physically assaulted someone after being restrained and separated. There is no justification for the assault. What's she going to say it was self defense? Talk to a dozen of the thousands of witnesses, look at the video and lock her up, end of story.

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You skip the post where I said it happens everywhere or just choose to ignore it cause it didn't fit your purpose?

 

Though you said it happens everywhere, you specifically signaled out SEC fans. You're an asshat.

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I wasn't there, I don't know all of the details. I do know that I see an awful lot of "men" taunting her. I think that my husband and sons would have just been gentlemen and walked away. Also, if they were messing with my kids in any way, shape or form, I may have reacted the same way. I can't say how I would react in the heat of the moment.

 

You can react anyway you please but if you assault someone you go to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200. There are consequences for such reactions.

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That is the call of the local law enforcement authorities and not someone sitting a couple of hundred miles away looking at video that may or may not tell the entire story. If the entire story is that she assaulted someone unprovoked, yes, she should be charged. Make her pay her fine, which is all that will happen, and create a criminal out of her. But anyone who participated in the incident needs to be treated the exact same way. Let's make this like a high school where even if you're defending yourself, you get charged. End of story.

From the video, she physically assaulted someone after being restrained and separated. There is no justification for the assault. What's she going to say it was self defense? Talk to a dozen of the thousands of witnesses, look at the video and lock her up, end of story.

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Am I the only one that found her strangely attractive?

 

Strangely attractive? Like you want her to kick you? :huh:

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You can react anyway you please but if you assault someone you go to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200. There are consequences for such reactions.

 

Kiss it.

 

Am I the only one that found her strangely attractive?

 

Nope. :D

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This article sums it up pretty nicely.

 

Story

 

Wow, the video without the music paints a much clearer picture. I see why the person who posted it set it to music, simply to distract from their disgusting behavior.

 

I really admire the way her husband handled it and conducted himself, class act.

 

People can be so rude and ugly sometimes.

 

 

 

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You can say what you want to about Alabama fans, the lady was wrong, but so were the men who kept it going. I grew up in the midst of the Ohio State v. Michigan rivalry and there were as many drunk blue collar factory fans as there are drunk redneck Alabama fans. It's not a market we have cornered.

 

But answer me this. How redneck and white trash can you be and still afford to be a Tide fan that attends games? I lost my season tickets back when I divorced my husband, but we paid $800 annual donation just for the privileged of purchasing home game tickets which we had to buy at face value. This was before Nick Saban and all the success, and our tickets were nosebleed. Add on top of that, we tailgated for every home game which involved driving 3 hours from Atlanta getting a hotel, buying tailgate paraphernalia that included portable grills, satellites, pop up tents, coolers, etc. And that was low class tailgating. We didn't own an expensive motor home. And that doesn't count the away games, bowl games, etc.

 

Yes there are riff raff and sidewalk alums, just as there are in any fan base, but I like being a part of a fanbase that poisons the rivals trees, that tee-bags passed out men at Krystals, that has a mom get in a fight with a rival fan. Know why? Because it means we are passionate. We don't hope Auburn wins tonight, we hope they lose by 20 touchdowns. We hope they get picked up on an NCAA violation. We are passionate about our team, our coach, and our other fans.

 

By the way I am a 2001 graduate from The University of Alabama, my children, should they be so lucky to attend, will be 4th generation Tiders. Both my mother in law and father and law graduated from Alabama, as well as my husbands grandfather. I love that University, and I am so proud to be a part of it warts and all.

 

Great post! I'm a redneck Dawgs fan myself, LOL!

 

The main thing I take from your post and can really relate to is where you mention passion. It's all about being passionate about something, someone you believe in. I can be very impetuous and I am most certainly passionate myself. I couldn't be any other way if I tried, I'm okay with that. :)

 

 

 

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That is the call of the local law enforcement authorities and not someone sitting a couple of hundred miles away looking at video that may or may not tell the entire story. If the entire story is that she assaulted someone unprovoked, yes, she should be charged. Make her pay her fine, which is all that will happen, and create a criminal out of her. But anyone who participated in the incident needs to be treated the exact same way. Let's make this like a high school where even if you're defending yourself, you get charged. End of story.

 

I didn't see anyone assault her. As a matter of fact, if a man had retaliated physically in any way, he would have gone to jail. That is the problem with society. Women can hit men and it's not a big deal. No one should be hitting anyone. What if the guy felt provoked by a verbal assault and punched and kicked her in retaliation, would you be singing the same tune?

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Did I not say that ANYONE who participated in the incident should be treated the same way? In fact, I'll refresh your memory as to what I said: If the entire story is that she assaulted someone unprovoked, yes, she should be charged. Make her pay her fine, which is all that will happen, and create a criminal out of her. But anyone who participated in the incident needs to be treated the exact same way.

I've been misquoted in the press, so I have little faith in what is in a video.

I didn't see anyone assault her. As a matter of fact, if a man had retaliated physically in any way, he would have gone to jail. That is the problem with society. Women can hit men and it's not a big deal. No one should be hitting anyone. What if the guy felt provoked by a verbal assault and punched and kicked her in retaliation, would you be singing the same tune?

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Did I not say that ANYONE who participated in the incident should be treated the same way? In fact, I'll refresh your memory as to what I said: If the entire story is that she assaulted someone unprovoked, yes, she should be charged. Make her pay her fine, which is all that will happen, and create a criminal out of her. But anyone who participated in the incident needs to be treated the exact same way.

I've been misquoted in the press, so I have little faith in what is in a video.

 

 

Trash talking is to be expected at a sporting event. Assault not so much. Verbal assault and physical assault are not equivalent. Where you lose me is when you say ""anyone". There was only one person committing assault.

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Not worth it.

 

Trash talking is to be expected at a sporting event. Assault not so much. Verbal assault and physical assault are not equivalent. Where you lose me is when you say ""anyone". There was only one person committing assault.

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I like being a part of a fanbase that poisons the rivals trees, that tee-bags passed out men at Krystals, that has a mom get in a fight with a rival fan. Know why? Because it means we are passionate.

 

How does tee-bagging a strange dude make you a passionate fan? I thought of many things when I saw that clip a couple of years ago, and passionate was not one of them. You forgot the time that the dad tried to shoot his son following Alabama's double overtime loss to Arkansas in 2003. Was he also being passionate?

 

Our definitions of a passionate fan seem to be quite different.

 

Am I the only one that found her strangely attractive?

 

I have to admit. She did look nice in those jeans.

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Wow, the video without the music paints a much clearer picture. I see why the person who posted it set it to music, simply to distract from their disgusting behavior.

 

I really admire the way her husband handled it and conducted himself, class act.

 

People can be so rude and ugly sometimes.

 

That's why it can be risky to go to a bowl game. You just never know who you're going to be sitting around. There are designated sections for each fanbase, but you always have pockets where big groups of opposing fans are seated near each other.

 

I learned this during the '06 Sugar Bowl against West Virginia. Talk about a rough bunch of people to sit around. Everyone in front of us were Georgia fans, but everyone on our row and behind us seemed to be for West Virginia, and they were going absolutely nuts as they opened up that 28-0 lead on us in the first quarter. I remember this one fat guy seated just over from me kept going on and on with SEC hate. I absolutely wanted to go give him the business, but I didn't. Instead I just yelled my damn head off as the dawgs climbed back into the game. My voice paid for it over the next few days.

 

While I hated hearing what the guy had to say, I also realized that he had paid for his ticket and could yell pretty much whatever he wanted. At 24, I used more common sense and showed more constraint than that lady did.

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