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Other than the balanced budget that you mention, Which ones are being enforced? And BTW the budget was balanced on the Backs of the citizens through higher property taxes and higher fees such as hospital fees and new tag fees Oh ...... I forgot to ask are the new immigration laws working, Are they being enforced, How about Tort reform,Is it being enforced, is it working.

 

You are correct those laws were passed, And unenforceable by the Republican Controlled State of Georgia, In the mean time we have the most Bank failures, Hghest unemployment ever recorded, And the legislature has did nothing to add jobs to the economny, fact is we are still losing jobs as I type

 

DOT, the states in this country which are on the verge of bankruptcy are all liberal democrat controlled. The states that in the best shape, and yes we're one of them, are conservative republican controlled. Secondly, half of Europe is ready to collapse thanks to liberal social engineering and welfare. Thanks to Obama, Pelosi, and Reid, Georgia's Gold Dome will be turning a few more shades of Red after November. The "conservative" democrat is now offically extinct. They've being primary-ied off by the Democrat Party or else being out-polled by Repubs for November. I wish you and Mr. Avery the best of luck in Paulding. Until then, I have better things to do.

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DOT, the states in this country which are on the verge of bankruptcy are all liberal democrat controlled. The states that in the best shape, and yes we're one of them, are conservative republican controlled. Secondly, half of Europe is ready to collapse thanks to liberal social engineering and welfare. Thanks to Obama, Pelosi, and Reid, Georgia's Gold Dome will be turning a few more shades of Red after November. The "conservative" democrat is now offically extinct. They've being primary-ied off by the Democrat Party or else being out-polled by Repubs for November. I wish you and Mr. Avery the best of luck in Paulding. Until then, I have better things to do.

Obama,Pelosi and reid are not running for election in Georgia, Only Georgia Democrats and Georgia Republicans, With a few Libertians and Independents. The State of Georgia is in the worst shape it has been in for many years, And I think Georgians are going to vote for more Jobs, Better Education, and Less taxes And the Republicans have failed miserably in all three of these areas Those are the meat and potatoes issue facing Georgia

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Obama,Pelosi and reid are not running for election in Georgia, Only Georgia Democrats and Georgia Republicans, With a few Libertians and Independents. The State of Georgia is in the worst shape it has been in for many years, And I think Georgians are going to vote for more Jobs, Better Education, and Less taxes And the Republicans have failed miserably in all three of these areas Those are the meat and potatoes issue facing Georgia

 

How do you suppose to have better education and more jobs along with lower taxes? I am a middle of the road sort of person but I do think that the politicans in Atlanta have done what they can with downturn in the economy. As for Avery, I do not want to go from one unexperienced young man to another.

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Nope our representives felt that it was okay for me to continue to pay the fuel tax,But Delta needed a little break OMG!!!!!

 

 

So you do agree with bail outs?

Has nothing to to with bailouts and it is a stretch to try and make it seem so. You have made no case for it either.

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Obama,Pelosi and reid are not running for election in Georgia, Only Georgia Democrats and Georgia Republicans, With a few Libertians and Independents. The State of Georgia is in the worst shape it has been in for many years, And I think Georgians are going to vote for more Jobs, Better Education, and Less taxes And the Republicans have failed miserably in all three of these areas Those are the meat and potatoes issue facing Georgia

Yes they are! Any Democrat elected will be expected to work toward the goals that Obama, Pelosi, and Reid set for the Party. I expect Democrat money will be financing his campaign. He will be expected to vote with the Democrats. The Party has been hi-jacked by the Socialists. There is no such thing as a truly conservative Democrat anymore or he/she would not be running on that ticket. JMO I agree with TwoKidCircus he is way to inexperienced.

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Yes they are! Any Democrat elected will be expected to work toward the goals that Obama, Pelosi, and Reid set for the Party. I expect Democrat money will be financing his campaign. He will be expected to vote with the Democrats. The Party has been hi-jacked by the Socialists. There is no such thing as a truly conservative Democrat anymore or he/she would not be running on that ticket. JMO I agree with TwoKidCircus he is way to inexperienced.

 

 

I do not expect to be receiving much, if any money from the Democratic Party. It will be on my disclosures though. And as far as experience goes, I have a great deal of experience dealing with the inner-workings of the state legislature. Just because I am 29 and working on my masters degree does not equate to inexperience.

 

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I do not expect to be receiving much, if any money from the Democratic Party. It will be on my disclosures though. And as far as experience goes, I have a great deal of experience dealing with the inner-workings of the state legislature. Just because I am 29 and working on my masters degree does not equate to inexperience.

 

What inner-workings of the state legislature have you done?

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I do not expect to be receiving much, if any money from the Democratic Party. It will be on my disclosures though. And as far as experience goes, I have a great deal of experience dealing with the inner-workings of the state legislature. Just because I am 29 and working on my masters degree does not equate to inexperience.

 

 

 

I only play around the edges of politics and I can tell you that you are a babe in the woods.sad.gif Watching the Legislature is nothing like being in it.

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What inner-workings of the state legislature have you done?

 

For the past year I have been heavily involved in efforts to support ways to keep education funded without raising taxes on Georgians. I have spent numerous hours at the Capitol throughout the last legislative session speaking with Representatives about measures that could be pursued to keep programs in Georgia operating.

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For the past year I have been heavily involved in efforts to support ways to keep education funded without raising taxes on Georgians. I have spent numerous hours at the Capitol throughout the last legislative session speaking with Representatives about measures that could be pursued to keep programs in Georgia operating.

 

Sounds like a "community activist". Been there, done that. :)

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For the past year I have been heavily involved in efforts to support ways to keep education funded without raising taxes on Georgians. I have spent numerous hours at the Capitol throughout the last legislative session speaking with Representatives about measures that could be pursued to keep programs in Georgia operating.

 

 

You mean you have been a Lobbyist? ohmy.gif We need to fund education to provide for teachers, books, and materials. It is full of unfunded mandates and bureaucrats that we don't need. Are you in favor of GA going for Obama's "Race to the top"?

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You mean you have been a Lobbyist? ohmy.gif We need to fund education to provide for teachers, books, and materials. It is full of unfunded mandates and bureaucrats that we don't need. Are you in favor of GA going for Obama's "Race to the top"?

 

No I have never been a lobbyist. I have never received one cent for any of the work that I have done. I come from a long lineage of educators and feel that education is an extremely important issue. Everything I have done has been on my own time, doing my own research and talking with folks about issues. Trying to say that I am a lobbyist is a long stretch IMO.

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No I have never been a lobbyist. I have never received one cent for any of the work that I have done. I come from a long lineage of educators and feel that education is an extremely important issue. Everything I have done has been on my own time, doing my own research and talking with folks about issues. Trying to say that I am a lobbyist is a long stretch IMO.

 

So you and your wife would benefit financially by the legislation you support? Seems a little self-serving. How much of my tax dollars will you require in your legislation to go towards your wife's salary? Also, is it your mom or dad that would also get a raise due to your legislation? How many relatives do you represent in this lobbying effort?

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So you and wife would benefit financially by the legislation you support? Seems a little self-serving. How much of my tax dollars will you require in your legislation to go towards your wife's salary?

 

With close to 300 teachers just having gotten cut in Paulding alone, the statement above is one of the most absurd ones I have ever seen on this board.

 

Maybe you are happy with the way the State House and Governor have turned their backs on education, but there are thousands and thousands out there who are not very happy about unlimited class size and reduced days, let alone reduced wages for the teachers who choose to stay in their profession. The kids are our future and education is the key.

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With close to 300 teachers just having gotten cut in Paulding alone, the statement above is one of the most absurd ones I have ever seen on this board.

 

Maybe you are happy with the way the State House and Governor have turned their backs on education, but there are thousands and thousands out there who are not very happy about unlimited class size and reduced days, let alone reduced wages for the teachers who choose to stay in their profession. The kids are our future and education is the key.

 

I'm not voting for a guy who is running to give his wife and family members a raise. Hit the road.

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No I have never been a lobbyist. I have never received one cent for any of the work that I have done. I come from a long lineage of educators and feel that education is an extremely important issue. Everything I have done has been on my own time, doing my own research and talking with folks about issues. Trying to say that I am a lobbyist is a long stretch IMO.

 

How much is the optimum amount per child to spend?

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No I have never been a lobbyist. I have never received one cent for any of the work that I have done. I come from a long lineage of educators and feel that education is an extremely important issue. Everything I have done has been on my own time, doing my own research and talking with folks about issues. Trying to say that I am a lobbyist is a long stretch IMO.

 

You did not answer my question. Do you support and are you in favor of Georgia going for Obama's "Race to the top"?

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For the past year I have been heavily involved in efforts to support ways to keep education funded without raising taxes on Georgians. I have spent numerous hours at the Capitol throughout the last legislative session speaking with Representatives about measures that could be pursued to keep programs in Georgia operating.

 

 

What representatives?

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How many people in the state of Georgia are employed by Delta? Delta along with other airlines have felt the down turn in the economy and giving them a break like that may help save some Georgia jobs. I don't have a problem with it at all. May also help keep Delta operating here.

 

Newsjunky:

 

Giving them a break is, plainly and simply playing favorites.

 

Before you jump me, know that playing favorites is at the heart of politics. One party favors one group over another. The party that wins the election has its group of favorites and the favorites of the party that loses typically lose their favors.

 

Ever wonder why most of the large companies and industry groups support both Demcratic Congressmen and Republican Congressmen? Well, they want to be a favorite regardless.

 

Usually, those who get special deals are the favorites and the politicians who divvy up those special deals do their best to cover up what is happening. This is true regardless of the party.

 

Still, when push comes to shove and things are contentious regarding the state budget, like they are, the priorities - I.e. who is favored and who is not - usually comes to light.

 

For instance, in the case of the tax breaks, Delta got one a few years back when things were humming along for the state and that company was on the ropes. No one much cared and with the state's tax coffers overflowing, a half-billion in favors was sure to be appreciated by a company that has had deep ties to Atlanta and Georgia. (I think the tax break came in the wake of 911 so it would have been a Democratic Governor and Democratic General Assembly that granted the tax break.) They could do that as they were seeking favoritism from those associated with Delta.

 

Of course in the course of the next couple of years, the favoritism that the Dems hoped to obtain by providing relief for Delta evaporated and transferred to the Republicans in the state house and general assembly. That meant the Dems were off the hook and could support removing the tax exemption.

 

Sounds pretty sordid but the one thing I like about democratic politicians is that they are not honest politicians as defined by one of the most corrupt men to head the war department (Lincoln's first War Dept. Head Simon Cameron). He defined an honest politician as one who once was bought, stayed bought. Democrats are all the time reneging.

 

But, the GOP, in this past budget year, failed to look at these (and other) tax breaks ... I think Rep. Howard Maxwell said there were over 120 of them and Sen. Bill Heath estimated there were up to 140 or so 'favorites' who got special breaks from the general assembly ... no doubt totaling into the billions. It is important to know that these tax breaks are basically denied to most Georgians and are an expression of favoritism first. I say that because they may be justified on other grounds and have merit but logical justification and merit usually mean very little when it comes to politics.

 

Why?

 

Because politics is about favoritism. (When confronted on this very issue by Joseph Stalin at Yalta, Winston Churchill admitted that democracy was the worst system imaginable ... except for the all the others (which in practice are far, far worse.))

 

Still, what logical lessons can we draw from the current juxtaposition of Teacher layoffs and half-billion tax break for Delta?

 

It is obvious that the General assembly did its best to obfuscate the issue but the bottom line is the 954 institutional and individual stock holders of Delta kept their tax exemption and tens of thousands of teachers across Georgia who taught hundreds of thousands of kids got their walking papers.

 

Such are the priorities, it would seem.

 

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Newsjunky:

 

Giving them a break is, plainly and simply playing favorites.

 

Before you jump me, know that playing favorites is at the heart of politics. One party favors one group over another. The party that wins the election has its group of favorites and the favorites of the party that loses typically lose their favors.

 

Ever wonder why most of the large companies and industry groups support both Demcratic Congressmen and Republican Congressmen? Well, they want to be a favorite regardless.

 

Usually, those who get special deals are the favorites and the politicians who divvy up those special deals do their best to cover up what is happening. This is true regardless of the party.

 

Still, when push comes to shove and things are contentious regarding the state budget, like they are, the priorities - I.e. who is favored and who is not - usually comes to light.

 

For instance, in the case of the tax breaks, Delta got one a few years back when things were humming along for the state and that company was on the ropes. No one much cared and with the state's tax coffers overflowing, a half-billion in favors was sure to be appreciated by a company that has had deep ties to Atlanta and Georgia. (I think the tax break came in the wake of 911 so it would have been a Democratic Governor and Democratic General Assembly that granted the tax break.) They could do that as they were seeking favoritism from those associated with Delta.

 

Of course in the course of the next couple of years, the favoritism that the Dems hoped to obtain by providing relief for Delta evaporated and transferred to the Republicans in the state house and general assembly. That meant the Dems were off the hook and could support removing the tax exemption.

 

Sounds pretty sordid but the one thing I like about democratic politicians is that they are not honest politicians as defined by one of the most corrupt men to head the war department (Lincoln's first War Dept. Head Simon Cameron). He defined an honest politician as one who once was bought, stayed bought. Democrats are all the time reneging.

 

But, the GOP, in this past budget year, failed to look at these (and other) tax breaks ... I think Rep. Howard Maxwell said there were over 120 of them and Sen. Bill Heath estimated there were up to 140 or so 'favorites' who got special breaks from the general assembly ... no doubt totaling into the billions. It is important to know that these tax breaks are basically denied to most Georgians and are an expression of favoritism first. I say that because they may be justified on other grounds and have merit but logical justification and merit usually mean very little when it comes to politics.

 

Why?

 

Because politics is about favoritism. (When confronted on this very issue by Joseph Stalin at Yalta, Winston Churchill admitted that democracy was the worst system imaginable ... except for the all the others (which in practice are far, far worse.))

 

Still, what logical lessons can we draw from the current juxtaposition of Teacher layoffs and half-billion tax break for Delta?

 

It is obvious that the General assembly did its best to obfuscate the issue but the bottom line is the 954 institutional and individual stock holders of Delta kept their tax exemption and tens of thousands of teachers across Georgia who taught hundreds of thousands of kids got their walking papers.

 

Such are the priorities, it would seem.

 

pubby

 

Pubby, it breaks my heart to see all of these teachers lose jobs. I don't think it would help matters to add Delta employees to that list. It takes fuel to fly those planes and it is going up in cost every day. I hope they can keep flying and their employees can keep working.

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Newsjunky:

 

Giving them a break is, plainly and simply playing favorites.

 

Before you jump me, know that playing favorites is at the heart of politics. One party favors one group over another. The party that wins the election has its group of favorites and the favorites of the party that loses typically lose their favors.

 

Ever wonder why most of the large companies and industry groups support both Demcratic Congressmen and Republican Congressmen? Well, they want to be a favorite regardless.

 

Usually, those who get special deals are the favorites and the politicians who divvy up those special deals do their best to cover up what is happening. This is true regardless of the party.

 

Still, when push comes to shove and things are contentious regarding the state budget, like they are, the priorities - I.e. who is favored and who is not - usually comes to light.

 

For instance, in the case of the tax breaks, Delta got one a few years back when things were humming along for the state and that company was on the ropes. No one much cared and with the state's tax coffers overflowing, a half-billion in favors was sure to be appreciated by a company that has had deep ties to Atlanta and Georgia. (I think the tax break came in the wake of 911 so it would have been a Democratic Governor and Democratic General Assembly that granted the tax break.) They could do that as they were seeking favoritism from those associated with Delta.

 

Of course in the course of the next couple of years, the favoritism that the Dems hoped to obtain by providing relief for Delta evaporated and transferred to the Republicans in the state house and general assembly. That meant the Dems were off the hook and could support removing the tax exemption.

 

Sounds pretty sordid but the one thing I like about democratic politicians is that they are not honest politicians as defined by one of the most corrupt men to head the war department (Lincoln's first War Dept. Head Simon Cameron). He defined an honest politician as one who once was bought, stayed bought. Democrats are all the time reneging.

 

But, the GOP, in this past budget year, failed to look at these (and other) tax breaks ... I think Rep. Howard Maxwell said there were over 120 of them and Sen. Bill Heath estimated there were up to 140 or so 'favorites' who got special breaks from the general assembly ... no doubt totaling into the billions. It is important to know that these tax breaks are basically denied to most Georgians and are an expression of favoritism first. I say that because they may be justified on other grounds and have merit but logical justification and merit usually mean very little when it comes to politics.

 

Why?

 

Because politics is about favoritism. (When confronted on this very issue by Joseph Stalin at Yalta, Winston Churchill admitted that democracy was the worst system imaginable ... except for the all the others (which in practice are far, far worse.))

 

Still, what logical lessons can we draw from the current juxtaposition of Teacher layoffs and half-billion tax break for Delta?

 

It is obvious that the General assembly did its best to obfuscate the issue but the bottom line is the 954 institutional and individual stock holders of Delta kept their tax exemption and tens of thousands of teachers across Georgia who taught hundreds of thousands of kids got their walking papers.

 

Such are the priorities, it would seem.

 

pubby

 

Good luck broadening Paulding's tax base with the anti-corporate rhetoric. This type of behavior in other states is exactly what drove businesses to Georgia to start with.

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Pubby, it breaks my heart to see all of these teachers lose jobs. I don't think it would help matters to add Delta employees to that list. It takes fuel to fly those planes and it is going up in cost every day. I hope they can keep flying and their employees can keep working.

 

NewsJunky, liberals believe that when you tax corporations it comes out of rich share holders' pockets. They're totally ignorant to the fact that it leads to layoffs and increased prices for consumers. It's a death spiral and on full display in liberally-run states across the country.

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NewsJunky, liberals believe that when you tax corporations it comes out of rich share holders' pockets. They're totally ignorant to the fact that it leads to layoffs and increased prices for consumers. It's a death spiral and on full display in liberally-run states across the country.

 

So instead we fire teachers and increase classroom sizes ?

 

Delta gets a "special" break. AirTrans does not even though their hub is here as well.

 

KIA gets a "special" break, and GM and Ford don't, and shut down their plants taking thousands of jobs with them.

 

 

Our kids are our future and to gut the education system reducing the expected quality of the education the kids will receive while giving billions in tax breaks to certain companies sure seem foolish.

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So instead we fire teachers and increase classroom sizes ?

 

Delta gets a "special" break. AirTrans does not even though their hub is here as well.

 

KIA gets a "special" break, and GM and Ford don't, and shut down their plants taking thousands of jobs with them.

 

 

Our kids are our future and to gut the education system reducing the expected quality of the education the kids will receive while giving billions in tax breaks to certain companies sure seem foolish.

 

If they were taxed and their jobs killed it still would not help the teachers and I think you know that. This is just more rhetoric that is aimed at making big corporations look bad. More class and corporate warfare. America is being harmed by it because they are the ones who provide the jobs that we need to feed our families. More Government control over them is not going to help any of us. We will just end up with the government owning the corporations and we know that should not happen in a Republic.

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If they were taxed and their jobs killed it still would not help the teachers and I think you know that. This is just more rhetoric that is aimed at making big corporations look bad. More class and corporate warfare. America is being harmed by it because they are the ones who provide the jobs that we need to feed our families. More Government control over them is not going to help any of us. We will just end up with the government owning the corporations and we know that should not happen in a Republic.

 

Delta's tax break was in essence a State funded Bail-Out after 911 hurt their revenue.

 

 

 

Delta then went on several years later to pay their Board of Directors more than $400 million dollars in end of year Golden Parachute Bonuses, and then filed Chapter XI Bankruptcy less than 60 days later.

 

And you want to continue a tax credit where by they don't pay taxes on the fuel they purchase ?

 

Yet it is then OK to fire thousands and thousands of teachers and substantially increase the classroom sizes ?

 

Unbelievable!

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So instead we fire teachers and increase classroom sizes ?

 

Delta gets a "special" break. AirTrans does not even though their hub is here as well.

 

KIA gets a "special" break, and GM and Ford don't, and shut down their plants taking thousands of jobs with them.

 

 

Our kids are our future and to gut the education system reducing the expected quality of the education the kids will receive while giving billions in tax breaks to certain companies sure seem foolish.

 

"gut the education system" = another academy award nomination for you!

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Delta's tax break was in essence a State funded Bail-Out after 911 hurt their revenue.

 

 

 

Delta then went on several years later to pay their Board of Directors more than $400 million dollars in end of year Golden Parachute Bonuses, and then filed Chapter XI Bankruptcy less than 60 days later.

 

And you want to continue a tax credit where by they don't pay taxes on the fuel they purchase ?

 

Yet it is then OK to fire thousands and thousands of teachers and substantially increase the classroom sizes ?

 

Unbelievable!

nea.gif You really need to find a more valid campaign issue for your candidate. He still has not answered my question about his stand on Obama's "Race to the top".

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nea.gif You really need to find a more valid campaign issue for your candidate. He still has not answered my question about his stand on Obama's "Race to the top".

 

Or why it is okay for him to push for pay raises for members of his immediate family.

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You mean you have been a Lobbyist? ohmy.gif We need to fund education to provide for teachers, books, and materials. It is full of unfunded mandates and bureaucrats that we don't need. Are you in favor of GA going for Obama's "Race to the top"?

 

There are some aspects of race to the top that are great, such as encouraging states to allow alternative teacher preparation programs. For example, right now in Georgia, if you have a Masters degree in math with no degree in education it is extremely difficult to obtain a teaching job. I believe that we should open up paths for alternative certification that will allow some of the most educated people to have classroom opportunities.

 

Other aspects of RTT, such as encouraging merit pay I do not like. Merit pay systems discourage collaboration among teachers. It also takes schools that need improvement, and rather than encourage the teachers to improve, it could cause them to search for jobs in higher performing schools. Merit pay as it was introduced in Georgia would not reward teachers for advanced degrees, which in my opinion is wrong. A major problem I have with basing teacher pay on performance is on what do we base the word "performance"? Is it based upon a test score? Do we look at were the student was at the beginning of the year in comparison to the end? There are just to many questions and no proof that merit pay actually works.

 

 

 

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Or why it is okay for him to push for pay raises for members of his immediate family.

 

Whenever teachers across the state have to sign contracts with no guaranteed salary there is a problem. Some school districts handed out contracts with the salary line left blank. That in my opinion is a major problem. I do think that teachers should make more money, regardless of my wife being a teacher. Show me a teacher that works 40 hours per week, or who doesn't stay up until midnight on weekends grading essays. I will make no apologies in saying that teachers should be compensated more for what they do. Education is one of the things that has made our country great!! From the k-12 to the higher ed levels teachers deserve our appreciation and to sit and accuse me of doing this so that my wife would get a raise show that you don't know what I value and pays very little respect to these dedicated individuals who teach our kids.

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There are some aspects of race to the top that are great, such as encouraging states to allow alternative teacher preparation programs. For example, right now in Georgia, if you have a Masters degree in math with no degree in education it is extremely difficult to obtain a teaching job. I believe that we should open up paths for alternative certification that will allow some of the most educated people to have classroom opportunities.

 

Other aspects of RTT, such as encouraging merit pay I do not like. Merit pay systems discourage collaboration among teachers. It also takes schools that need improvement, and rather than encourage the teachers to improve, it could cause them to search for jobs in higher performing schools. Merit pay as it was introduced in Georgia would not reward teachers for advanced degrees, which in my opinion is wrong. A major problem I have with basing teacher pay on performance is on what do we base the word "performance"? Is it based upon a test score? Do we look at were the student was at the beginning of the year in comparison to the end? There are just to many questions and no proof that merit pay actually works.

 

 

 

 

 

Still did not answer the question. Would you vote for it if you could? I think you would even though it has Federal strings that could take the control of our local public schools out of Georgian hands. I base my opinion upon your evasive answer.

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Or why it is okay for him to push for pay raises for members of his immediate family.

 

Where did Mr Avery say he would be pushing for pay raises for teachers ?

 

Right now I think for many teachers just receiving the full amount of their contracted salary would be nice. Instead, like many other state workers, they have been forced to take furlough days, but still have the same workload. No one else is doing their job for them on the days they are furloughed.

 

And the stipends many teachers received for paying to get additional post graduate degrees and teaching certificates have been cut in half, or stopped altogether even though that also was part of their "Contract".

 

But Delta still gets its $500,000 a year tax credit on fuel.

 

Wait until August/September when the kids arrive at school to find out the other row of desks won't FIT into the classroom built to hold 28-29 students which now has 35-36 students. If they even have the desk at all.

 

And your priorities are where ? Our kids sit on the floor in class, and Delta along with hundreds of other special interest groups get tax breaks which should have been rescinded years ago.

 

Go figure.

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Where did Mr Avery say he would be pushing for pay raises for teachers ?

 

Right now I think for many teachers just receiving the full amount of their contracted salary would be nice. Instead, like many other state workers, they have been forced to take furlough days, but still have the same workload. No one else is doing their job for them on the days they are furloughed.

 

And the stipends many teachers received for paying to get additional post graduate degrees and teaching certificates have been cut in half, or stopped altogether even though that also was part of their "Contract".

 

But Delta still gets its $500,000 a year tax credit on fuel.

 

Wait until August/September when the kids arrive at school to find out the other row of desks won't FIT into the classroom built to hold 28-29 students which now has 35-36 students. If they even have the desk at all.

 

And your priorities are where ? Our kids sit on the floor in class, and Delta along with hundreds of other special interest groups get tax breaks which should have been rescinded years ago.

 

Go figure.

 

 

Last time I checked being a teacher does not give you protection from a failing economy. I don't think anyone has a protected status when the money dries up to pay them.

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Last time I checked being a teacher does not give you protection from a failing economy. I don't think anyone has a protected status when the money dries up to pay them.

 

But Delta does get protection while everyone else continues to take cuts and pay their taxes ?

 

Take one line or the other. You cannot preach small government, reduced taxes, and capitalism, and support Delta getting more in tax breaks than it would take to fund the necessary teachers for the kids.

 

One road or the other....you can't go down both at the same time.

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But Delta does get protection while everyone else continues to take cuts and pay their taxes ?

 

Take one line or the other. You cannot preach small government, reduced taxes, and capitalism, and support Delta getting more in tax breaks than it would take to fund the necessary teachers for the kids.

 

One road or the other....you can't go down both at the same time.

Totally different subject. I can't understand how you can even equate the two.

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I'm not voting for a guy who is running to give his wife and family members a raise. Hit the road.

And what is your occupation so we can make sure you are consistent and not supporting someone who favors your job position.

 

Whenever teachers across the state have to sign contracts with no guaranteed salary there is a problem. Some school districts handed out contracts with the salary line left blank. That in my opinion is a major problem. I do think that teachers should make more money, regardless of my wife being a teacher. Show me a teacher that works 40 hours per week, or who doesn't stay up until midnight on weekends grading essays. I will make no apologies in saying that teachers shouldn't be compensated more for what they do. Education is one of the things that has made our country great!! From the k-12 to the higher ed levels teachers deserve our appreciation and to sit and accuse me of doing this so that my wife would get a raise show that you don't know what I value and pays very little respect to these dedicated individuals who teach our kids.

Bravo. Don't expect the inellectually honest (or intelligent) to admit that. Good job, though.

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NewsJunky, liberals believe that when you tax corporations it comes out of rich share holders' pockets. They're totally ignorant to the fact that it leads to layoffs and increased prices for consumers. It's a death spiral and on full display in liberally-run states across the country.

 

GOP Rules:

 

Let's see, can't tax corportions because they're not people and can't vote and you can't tax people because they are people and can vote.

 

So, and I really don't see you contradicting this anywhere else, you don't believe in taxes.

 

Hence, I suspect you would shrink government to the most miniscule element including, I suspect, the elimination of public education. I know you would require that some taxes be collected to support a police force and military. Anything government beyond that - do you really think we need courts when we have colonels and generals and military tribunals that could work - and why support the most wastful and corrupt part of our government - The Congress? I mean, what tax would you authorize to support them?

 

So, the question is what if any function of government would you support and how would you tax people - remember corporations are off limits - to support that government?

 

pubby

 

PS: I'll even let you offer the absolutely fairest tax of all. It is only $500.00/yr. It is called the AIR tax because if you don't pay it you go sit in a sealed room cut off from getting any more air until you pay it. Everyone has to pay it or face the consequences so it is fair and it is about taxing the most abundant item above the crust of the earth.

 

I don't like it because it is a regressive tax - it impacts the poor more than the wealthy but I brought it up because it seems to fit the Boortzian agenda.

 

pubby

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GOP Rules:

 

Let's see, can't tax corportions because they're not people and can't vote and you can't tax people because they are people and can vote.

 

So, and I really don't see you contradicting this anywhere else, you don't believe in taxes.

 

Hence, I suspect you would shrink government to the most miniscule element including, I suspect, the elimination of public education. I know you would require that some taxes be collected to support a police force and military. Anything government beyond that - do you really think we need courts when we have colonels and generals and military tribunals that could work - and why support the most wastful and corrupt part of our government - The Congress? I mean, what tax would you authorize to support them?

 

So, the question is what if any function of government would you support and how would you tax people - remember corporations are off limits - to support that government?

 

pubby

 

PS: I'll even let you offer the absolutely fairest tax of all. It is only $500.00/yr. It is called the AIR tax because if you don't pay it you go sit in a sealed room cut off from getting any more air until you pay it. Everyone has to pay it or face the consequences so it is fair and it is about taxing the most abundant item above the crust of the earth.

 

I don't like it because it is a regressive tax - it impacts the poor more than the wealthy but I brought it up because it seems to fit the Boortzian agenda.

 

pubby

 

I'm for taxing liberal-owned internet forums. :p :p :p

Edited by GOP Rules!

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And your priorities are where ? Our kids sit on the floor in class, and Delta along with hundreds of other special interest groups get tax breaks which should have been rescinded years ago.

 

Go figure.

 

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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