I was discussing this thread with my daughter last weekend. She said that they can't afford to home school, can't afford private school and the public schools just suck. And they can't afford the supplies requested. They would REALLY like to home school and would except for the socialization of public or private school. Unfortunately, Starr & Dru's Nana and Papa can't take on the expense of sending them to private schools. Papa had plans to work until he was 65 or even later if possible and save every penny to put toward their college educations. That didn't work.
BTW, Rhonda, where did you get your home schooling information? My daughter still wants to see if that is something they could do in a couple of years.
Has she looked into K12? They supply the books, computer based on income, and internet reimbursement.
Schools need to start charging tuition. This Free education idea is outdated. Schools should charge $50 for each student, every year. That will cover book rental, lockers, fieldtrips etc. Stop complaining about $5. Homeschooling is not the answer......accountability is. You wanted kids.....be prepared to pay a little money for their education.
Lol!!! A thousand thumbs up. Yes I wish people would think before they procreate. My SIL and BIL had 2 kids 19 months apart and I give them my sons outgrown clothes, shoes, etc. I've always bought better shoes for my son since I think they hold up better and she is always so thankful saying things like I couldn't afford these $40-50 shoes or this kind of shirt.... and this was before she quit work. I give her 3 years and she'll have another one.. I think funding for public education should be totally revamped. Why should someone pay more towards public education if they have have fewer or no kids in the system than someone who has more or just happens to live in a less expensive house. You use it you pay for it..
I'm not sure what she has looked into. I'll ask her tomorrow.
Happy Wife And Mom, on 11 August 2012 - 02:01 PM, said:
Has she looked into K12? They supply the books, computer based on income, and internet reimbursement.
I have a defective "reputation" button. Mine doesn't say 1000.
winston1972, on 11 August 2012 - 02:37 PM, said:
Why should someone pay more towards public education if they have have fewer or no kids in the system than someone who has more or just happens to live in a less expensive house. You use it you pay for it..
See, no one in the South ever asks if you have crazy people in your family. They just ask which side they're on. -- Julia Sugarbaker
In loving memory of Mason (December 1, 2001 to December 9, 2001) and Ashley Jr. (December 1, 2001 to December 2, 2001)
Rhonda,
I can already tell what your family needs!
I have no idea what this is supposed to mean.
Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted. ~~~~~ "A room without a book, is like a body without a soul" ~Cicero ~~~~~~ I dream of a world...where chickens can cross the road without their motives being questioned.
Your son is a junior. Just WAIT until next year. Not with the supplies but with all the Senior stuff they are required to pay for. My sons graduated in 2010 and it was absolutely rediculious what we had to pay for so that they could graduate. All I can say is start saving now, you will need it next year.
You're not kidding there! $25 just to have their senior photo in the yearbook. (This does not include those "fancy" senior portraits) $50 to take the SAT. $60 for Senior Dues. $80 for a yearbook. Up to $300 if you want to put a message to your senior in the yearbook. $100 for a parking pass. Cap & gown, class ring, graduation announcements, and any other incidentals, cost to be determined..... And don't EVEN get me started on this $100+ calculator..... Yet 80% of our property taxes go to the school board every year
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You're not kidding there! $25 just to have their senior photo in the yearbook. (This does not include those "fancy" senior portraits) $50 to take the SAT. $60 for Senior Dues. $80 for a yearbook. Up to $300 if you want to put a message to your senior in the yearbook. $100 for a parking pass. Cap & gown, class ring, graduation announcements, and any other incidentals, cost to be determined..... And don't EVEN get me started on this $100+ calculator..... Yet 80% of our property taxes go to the school board every year
Most of what you mentioned is optional and based on what you want to do. Only a few are necessities. Also I believe the tax money is lower due to lower assessments.
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You're not kidding there! $25 just to have their senior photo in the yearbook. (This does not include those "fancy" senior portraits) $50 to take the SAT. $60 for Senior Dues. $80 for a yearbook. Up to $300 if you want to put a message to your senior in the yearbook. $100 for a parking pass. Cap & gown, class ring, graduation announcements, and any other incidentals, cost to be determined..... And don't EVEN get me started on this $100+ calculator..... Yet 80% of our property taxes go to the school board every year
Ummm....as a tax payer, I'd be more than slightly pissed if my funds were paying for these optional things for your kid.
Interesting reading here. It's time for me to find a local teacher out here to adopt for this year. I know someone can use some of the extra supplies I've been gathering.
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When you told me on Thursday that you had done that in the past, I thought "WOW!! What a great idea!"
deewee, on 11 August 2012 - 10:07 PM, said:
Interesting reading here. It's time for me to find a local teacher out here to adopt for this year. I know someone can use some of the extra supplies I've been gathering.
See, no one in the South ever asks if you have crazy people in your family. They just ask which side they're on. -- Julia Sugarbaker
In loving memory of Mason (December 1, 2001 to December 9, 2001) and Ashley Jr. (December 1, 2001 to December 2, 2001)
When you told me on Thursday that you had done that in the past, I thought "WOW!! What a great idea!"
Yep, she is SO full of awesome .
Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted. ~~~~~ "A room without a book, is like a body without a soul" ~Cicero ~~~~~~ I dream of a world...where chickens can cross the road without their motives being questioned.
When you told me on Thursday that you had done that in the past, I thought "WOW!! What a great idea!"
I can't meet all their needs, but I can do some, and I'm happy to do it. Plus, it fulfills my love of buying cool school supplies...lol. I think I just found me a new teacher to shower some goodies on!
RhondaW, on 11 August 2012 - 10:18 PM, said:
Yep, she is SO full of awesome .
And you are too! I think what y'all do at The Bookworm is wonderful!!!
I've lived life enough to have learned I'm not all that I thought I was, but have learned to be happy with who I am- Deewee 07/06/08
I may have a tattoo on my back, but I've got Jesus in my heart!
Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted. ~~~~~ "A room without a book, is like a body without a soul" ~Cicero ~~~~~~ I dream of a world...where chickens can cross the road without their motives being questioned.
Why do 22 kindergarteners need to bring in 3 dozen pencils? Or 6 classes of 35+ high school kids need to provide dry erase markers?
My biggest beef is $5 for a math book?????? It's 100 sheets of copy paper stapled together & I HAVE to pay $5 for it becuase my kid is in a grade level math class? This is in high school. . . .
My next one is paying $10 for an elective class. 6 classes of 40 kids are REQUIRED to pay $10 to attend the class (theater) DURING school hours. What in the world are they spending $2500 on??? The supply list for theater- yourself- and your voice.
$3 per semester for a PE lock? (weren't all of the locks PROVIDED to the school through tax payer funds already?) $5 for a locker (again, the lockers were provided to the school through tax payer funds already & now we have to pay to use them)
How about $100 to park in the parking lot that was paid by the tax payers too? And now our kids have to pay to park in the lot we already paid for. . .
Where does all of this $$$ that is REQUIRED for things that have already been paid for by tax payer funds go? Don't give me budget cut crap & not having copy paper when I've already had to provide markers for your dry erase boards in the classroom & pay all of these extra required fees.
I think I'm done for now. Thanks for letting me vent!
The elementary kids are asked to bring 3 dozen pencils to cover those that can't afford their own. My son's teacher put all the pencils in a drawer and every student got two at the start of the day. If one broke, use the other one until it was appropriate time to sharpen it. You're not supplying your own student, you're supplying the class. I know teachers don't make nearly enough for what they do and they have to buy so many supplies for the classroom but I agree it is getting a bit out of hand. I'm not looking forward to my son having to pay for a locker next year in middle school. What the heck is it for? It's already been bought and it's not like they're replacing it every year!
The question remains WHY should teachers have to pay for personal supplies for students? And why should other parents have to pay for them?
J, on 15 August 2012 - 10:23 AM, said:
The elementary kids are asked to bring 3 dozen pencils to cover those that can't afford their own. My son's teacher put all the pencils in a drawer and every student got two at the start of the day. If one broke, use the other one until it was appropriate time to sharpen it. You're not supplying your own student, you're supplying the class. I know teachers don't make nearly enough for what they do and they have to buy so many supplies for the classroom but I agree it is getting a bit out of hand. I'm not looking forward to my son having to pay for a locker next year in middle school. What the heck is it for? It's already been bought and it's not like they're replacing it every year!
See, no one in the South ever asks if you have crazy people in your family. They just ask which side they're on. -- Julia Sugarbaker
In loving memory of Mason (December 1, 2001 to December 9, 2001) and Ashley Jr. (December 1, 2001 to December 2, 2001)
Lol!!! A thousand thumbs up. Yes I wish people would think before they procreate. My SIL and BIL had 2 kids 19 months apart and I give them my sons outgrown clothes, shoes, etc. I've always bought better shoes for my son since I think they hold up better and she is always so thankful saying things like I couldn't afford these $40-50 shoes or this kind of shirt.... and this was before she quit work. I give her 3 years and she'll have another one.. I think funding for public education should be totally revamped. Why should someone pay more towards public education if they have have fewer or no kids in the system than someone who has more or just happens to live in a less expensive house. You use it you pay for it..
When you reach age 62 you don't have to pay for it. My dad was so excited to hit his 62nd birthday because his property taxes went down because he didn't have to pay for schools. My son and I were living with him at the time (my son was school age) so it doesn't matter if you have kids or not, it's strictly based on age.
The question remains WHY should teachers have to pay for personal supplies for students? And why should other parents have to pay for them?
Teachers are buying supplies for their classroom, like dry-erase markers and accessory items (boxes and bins and various items they use to teach beyond just opening the book). The parents are all asked to buy tons of pencils to help cover those that can't buy their own. And maybe, just maybe, so they won't run out in the middle of the school year. Who knows? LOL
In all honesty there is no perfect system. Home school is only as good as the parents, and frankly I will admit I'm not smart enough to be a subject matter expert in enough areas to properly educate my son. I also want him to have a good set of social skills and learn the world doesn't revolve around him - something home schooling can't teach.
In my line of work I hire a lot of High School kids. Its ALWAYS the home schooled ones that end up crying in the office becuase they can't handle the interaction with the public or working with a diverse group of people as they just don't have the experience the private and public school kids do.
I knew someone who was homeschooled up through high school. His mom had 6 other kids, all under age 8, so he'd get up, make breakfast, get dressed, turn on his computer and look at the assignment. If his mom had to run errands, guess who had to watch the other kids. Yep, the kid who was supposed to be in school, or he'd have to go with her to keep the kids under control in the mall while she was shopping. He'd finish his assignment around 10:30 or so and just watch TV (or the kids) for the rest of the day. There was no real education going on. When he started public high school he was so far behind. He had a summer reading list that he said he wasn't aware of so he was getting low grades his first week of school until he reminded the school of his home school status and that he had not gotten the upcoming freshman packet because he wasn't in a public school to get it. He was frequently overwhelmed with all the classwork and would get so tired by 3rd period because he wasn't used to having to be up and active that long. He also joined his first extracurricular activity and was so socially awkward that I felt bad for him. Homeschooling is great for those who do it right, not those who use their kids as babysitters when they're supposed to be learning.
When they go missing someone has to pay for them, things get stolen all the time in schools.
So don't buy the book, see if you can get it as a PDF file or other type of file. Then print only what is needed.
That's a tough one I can only guess at an answer. Maybe, just maybe because it's an elective? As in not required, as in not needed to graduate, as in he elected to take it. Just guessing here.
I always paid for a locker, and lock. That was 20 years ago.
Here's a novel idea, my taxes pay so your precious little special wondrous that I don't care about at all can ride the bus for free, as in no cost, already paid for. Parking lots don't maintain themselves. There's this thing called resurfacing, cleaning, maintaining, repairing thing that they require. Since the school provides a way for them to get there, then it's a privilege they pay to use the lot for.
The school isn't required to let your (whatever) drive to school, it's actually safer for them to ride to school and less expensive on gas, wear and tear, vehicle maintenance, upkeep to ride the bus. When I was in school we took notes, supplied our own supplies, and barely got anything printed for us. The school isn't required to pay for classes that your (I don't even care) elects to take.
No wonder kids feel so entitled now, my parents said they don't and I don't have to pay for extra things that cost other people money.
Bitter much? As for your snarky remark about electives, aren't some of them REQUIRED, like PE, health, foreign language? I don't think you can fill your schedule with all academic classes anyway, I think they limit how many you can take so you're not overwhelmed. Besides, kids don't always get to pick what electives they get. My niece was assigned to food services which wasn't one of the choices she had even picked for her schedule.
I don't question that teachers DO buy these supplies. I don't question that parents buy these supplies. I question WHY either one HAS to buy them. School taxes should go to CLASSROOM supplies as well as salaries, buses, buildings, etc. Teachers nor parents should HAVE to buy supplies for the classroom--that means, dry erase markers and anything necessary for teaching the class. Yes, even textbooks, paper for making copies of class material. Pencils, pens, notebooks, backpacks, folders, etc should be the responsibility of each child's parents. Little Mary's parents shouldn't have to send 3 dozen pencils for the TEACHER to distribute as needed to Little Johnny.
I'm sure if a notice went to parents that there was a child (or children) in class who needed help with basic school supplies, more than enough would be contributed. I've seen the bins at the grocery stores for donations of school supplies. I've seen the bins at the office supply stores for the same thing. I have seen churches distribute backpacks. Surely, if more children needed assistance, a parent (or a group of parents) would be more than happy to send whatever those children needed. But I'm not talking about school supplies.
I'm saying classroom supplies should NOT be the responsibility of the teachers or the parents.
And again, where does a teacher with 20 kids in the class store 40 boxes of tissue, 20 bottles of hand sanitizer, 20 bottles of hand soap, 20 packs of dry erase markers, 20 reams of copy paper, 20 packages of coffee filters, 40 rolls of paper towels along with all the pencils, notebook paper and crayons?
J, on 16 August 2012 - 09:30 AM, said:
Teachers are buying supplies for their classroom, like dry-erase markers and accessory items (boxes and bins and various items they use to teach beyond just opening the book). The parents are all asked to buy tons of pencils to help cover those that can't buy their own. And maybe, just maybe, so they won't run out in the middle of the school year. Who knows? LOL
See, no one in the South ever asks if you have crazy people in your family. They just ask which side they're on. -- Julia Sugarbaker
In loving memory of Mason (December 1, 2001 to December 9, 2001) and Ashley Jr. (December 1, 2001 to December 2, 2001)
Happy Wife And Mom, on 05 August 2012 - 05:48 PM, said:
I bought it spaced out over a month wherever they were on sale, and will continue to do so. I kept my receipts in case I needed to return anything. My son has to bring in 1000 objects for math tomorrow. We are going with paper clips since they are on sale at Walgreens. I also picked up a bunch of page protectors for one of the teachers' wish list. I will stock up as much as I can so I don't have to pay full price later in the year.
When we started building mega schools and stopped buying books
The generic 5th grade supply list was nowhere near what the actual supply list was. The Wal-Mart in Dallas had supply lists for schools in northeast Cobb county (specific schools, specific grades) but only one very vague Paulding list.
The generic 5th grade supply list was nowhere near what the actual supply list was. The Wal-Mart in Dallas had supply lists for schools in northeast Cobb county (specific schools, specific grades) but only one very vague Paulding list.
That is odd. Maybe they had them at the Hiram Walmart. I just went with the lists that were on the school's website. It was close enough.
workingforaliving, on 06 August 2012 - 05:21 PM, said:
I tell kids no all the time. Bathroom breaks at school are like bathroom breaks on a road trip, as far as I'm concerned....
Anything short of a note from a dr is getting a no.
Okay, so when the elementary school kid with a still-growing bladder or is having a hard time "holding it" wets their pants and gets humiliated then what? I know you're a sub and you think all the kids are out to get you but you do need some leniency with that policy. Kids, especially kindergarten and first grade age, are fully potty trained but some still don't know they have to go until it's almost too late. Are you going to clean up the mess?
You directed your response to Workingforaliving. She is not an elementary school sub. She is a high school teacher.
BTW, in Cobb, parents are asked to send 2 extra changes of clothes for kindergarten and first graders at most elementary schools. I think this is a wonderful idea because accidents do happen.
J, on 16 August 2012 - 10:22 AM, said:
Okay, so when the elementary school kid with a still-growing bladder or is having a hard time "holding it" wets their pants and gets humiliated then what? I know you're a sub and you think all the kids are out to get you but you do need some leniency with that policy. Kids, especially kindergarten and first grade age, are fully potty trained but some still don't know they have to go until it's almost too late. Are you going to clean up the mess?
See, no one in the South ever asks if you have crazy people in your family. They just ask which side they're on. -- Julia Sugarbaker
In loving memory of Mason (December 1, 2001 to December 9, 2001) and Ashley Jr. (December 1, 2001 to December 2, 2001)
You directed your response to Workingforaliving. She is not an elementary school sub. She is a high school teacher.
BTW, in Cobb, parents are asked to send 2 extra changes of clothes for kindergarten and first graders at most elementary schools. I think this is a wonderful idea because accidents do happen.
Sorry--tried to get it at the sub who won't let kids use the bathroom. We came from Cobb county so I'm familiar with their policies as well.
We sent a change of clothes with my daughter on her first day. She is one who forgets to stop for bathroom breaks in new situations. Luckily she hasn't needed them.
When you reach age 62 you don't have to pay for it. My dad was so excited to hit his 62nd birthday because his property taxes went down because he didn't have to pay for schools. My son and I were living with him at the time (my son was school age) so it doesn't matter if you have kids or not, it's strictly based on age.
In Paulding County it is also based on Income. Anyone who thinks they may qualify should call the tax office.
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I heard on the radio this week, that some classrooms in metro area were requiring students in middle and high schools to have electronic tablets! The parents were calling in complaining about the cost and that they had no prior notice to be able to put aside $ for them.
Just wait until each student has to provide two. One for their use and one for "classroom" use.
ohmygosh, on 16 August 2012 - 03:13 PM, said:
I heard on the radio this week, that some classrooms in metro area were requiring students in middle and high schools to have electronic tablets! The parents were calling in complaining about the cost and that they had no prior notice to be able to put aside $ for them.
See, no one in the South ever asks if you have crazy people in your family. They just ask which side they're on. -- Julia Sugarbaker
In loving memory of Mason (December 1, 2001 to December 9, 2001) and Ashley Jr. (December 1, 2001 to December 2, 2001)
When you reach age 62 you don't have to pay for it. My dad was so excited to hit his 62nd birthday because his property taxes went down because he didn't have to pay for schools. My son and I were living with him at the time (my son was school age) so it doesn't matter if you have kids or not, it's strictly based on age.
In Paulding, you have to be 70 before you stop paying school tax.
It's 62. But the household income has to be $10,000 or less. Apparently it is a $10,000 reduction in assessed value of the property, not a total exemption. Cobb provides a complete exemption from school taxes once the homeowner has reached 62.
Page 2, last paragraph. I saw nothing about 70 being exempt from school taxes. Since I don't own property in Paulding to know first hand, that might be available and just not listed on the list of exemptions.
BMR, on 16 August 2012 - 06:22 PM, said:
In Paulding, you have to be 70 before you stop paying school tax.
See, no one in the South ever asks if you have crazy people in your family. They just ask which side they're on. -- Julia Sugarbaker
In loving memory of Mason (December 1, 2001 to December 9, 2001) and Ashley Jr. (December 1, 2001 to December 2, 2001)
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