[eym_sirius]

Boycotts usually are not successful as an economic disincentive. They tend to make political staements which would only embarass people or enterprises with a sensibility for others, as opposed to ones self. Marriage is a state sponsored institution regarding legality. Marriage is a church affiliated institution only if the couple wishes to affiliate themselves with a particular religious brand. IN THAT CONTEXT, people making statements about disallowing gays to marry should be done in the context of the couple's relationship to the church brand.

[Jenny30]

big·ot·ry
[big-uh-tree]

noun, plural big·ot·ries.
1. stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own.

2. the actions, beliefs, prejudices, etc., of a bigot.


in·tol·er·ance
[in-tol-er-uhns]

noun
1. lack of toleration; unwillingness or refusal to tolerate or respect contrary opinions or beliefs, persons of different races or backgrounds, etc.

3. an intolerant act.


dis·crim·i·na·tion
[dih-skrim-uh-ney-shuhn]

noun
1.an act or instance of discriminating.

2. treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit: racial and religious intolerance and discrimination.


Ok so to be clear this does not in any way shape or form state if you have an "opinion" you are a bigot, intolerant or discriminating in any way.

This post has been edited by Jenny30: 29 July 2012 - 01:01 PM

[Nitro]

afewcardsshy, on 29 July 2012 - 11:09 AM, said:

James 5:20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins."
"1 Timothy 5:20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear. Luke 17:3 Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him. 2 Timothy 4:2 2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine. Titus 1:13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith; Titus 2:15 These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee."




So you go on letting others put themselves into judgement by God. I for one care about anothers soul not just mine. I may sin but I would hope that my brother miht correct me and help me stay on a righteous path.

You really are a tool! You don't understand the concept of witnessing to someone versus judging them or trying to run their life, do you?

YOU are not God and it's NOT YOUR job to judge people.

From the very scripture YOU posted, if you see someone sin, you should let them know they are sinning and witness them to God.
YOU are NOT to JUDGE them and condemn them to hell, as you posted in your previous post.

YOU are NOT in charge of someone elses soul NOR their life.

Even outside of religion, this IS the United States of America and people are afforded individual liberty.
Once again, it's none of your damn business what anyone else does with their life, as long as it does NOT affect you.

...So let me guess, you are now going to go off on the scriptures because once again you have failed to provide any
proof that our forefathers wanted a Christian nation? I could give a damn about you posting scriptures.

You just keep digging yourself in a deeper hole. Better watch it, you know where you'll find yourself if you dig too deep?

By the way, why don't you try running my life sometime? I guarantee you'll stop that sheeze REAL damn quick!

This post has been edited by Nitro: 29 July 2012 - 01:20 PM

[Nitro]

A Gipper Girl, on 29 July 2012 - 11:27 AM, said:

Some Jews are Christians, for the record- Messianic Jews .

Messianic Jews are not of the Jewish faith.

"Jews" can be defined multiple ways... Jewish faith and Jewish nationality.

Not all Jew's are of Jewish faith.

Messianic Jews are not Jewish faith, they are Christian faith.

Messianic Jews are a division of Christian faith, just like Baptists, Methodist, Lutheran, etc...
The difference is that they also hold on to some of their old traditions.

By the meer fact that a Messianic Jew accepts Christ as their savior, makes them a Christian.

So, yes, a Jew can be a Christian... But a Jew of faith cannot be a Christian of faith.

[Guard dad]

SPORTS SOURCE, on 29 July 2012 - 11:27 AM, said:

I do not know if Perry has proof to show you or not. But, I know people who HAVE read that statement by CFA re: applying for employment in black and white while visiting NYC. And, these are people who are honest folks and I would believe them any and everyday with whatever they say to be true.

Sorry, but they have far better sense than to set themselves up for a lawsuit like that.

I'm still calling BS

[zoocrew]

SPORTS SOURCE, on 29 July 2012 - 11:27 AM, said:

I do not know if Perry has proof to show you or not. But, I know people who HAVE read that statement by CFA re: applying for employment in black and white while visiting NYC. And, these are people who are honest folks and I would believe them any and everyday with whatever they say to be true.

I have no idea if that is true or not, but some people who insist all those people are lying because, well, that tidbit doesn't fit their agenda.\

Then again, private company and isn't that what many have said? Employers should be able to hire and fire whom they wish, for whatever reasons they have?

[afewcardsshy]

Nitro, on 29 July 2012 - 01:09 PM, said:

You really are a tool! You don't understand the concept of witnessing to someone versus judging them or trying to run their life, do you?

YOU are not God and it's NOT YOUR job to judge people.

From the very scripture YOU posted, if you see someone sin, you should let them know they are sinning and witness them to God.
YOU are NOT to JUDGE them and condemn them to hell, as you posted in your previous post.

YOU are NOT in charge of someone elses soul NOR their life.

Even outside of religion, this IS the United States of America and people are afforded individual liberty.
Once again, it's none of your damn business what anyone else does with their life, as long as it does NOT affect you.

...So let me guess, you are now going to go off on the scriptures because once again you have failed to provide any
proof that our forefathers wanted a Christian nation? I could give a damn about you posting scriptures.

You just keep digging yourself in a deeper hole. Better watch it, you know where you'll find yourself if you dig too deep?

By the way, why don't you try running my life sometime? I guarantee you'll stop that sheeze REAL damn quick!

Uhmm, I do not want to run someones life, you are make claims against my faith, I hope that when you are questioned by the JUDGE youi have abetter reason than because you support homosexual relations.

[Nitro]

afewcardsshy, on 29 July 2012 - 03:43 PM, said:

Uhmm, I do not want to run someones life, you are make claims against my faith, I hope that when you are questioned by the JUDGE youi have abetter reason than because you support homosexual relations.

Ok, YOU are one stupid individual!! I have not made ANY claims against your faith..

I made claims against your hypocrisy and using your false faith to support your bigotry.

What I have pointed out so many times is how you're a hypocrite, claiming to be so Christian like and all you are
doing is hating. Totally opposite of Christ's teachings. If you were half the Christian you claim to be,
you'd know that most of the talk in the Bible about homosexuality was the OLD testament. They were commandments from God.
They had NOTHING to do with Christ. In case you didn't know, even IF a person is a homosexual, if they accept Christ as
their savior, their sins are forgiven... just like my sins are forgiven. Being a devote Christian, I would think you'd know that.

You're a damn hypocritical bigot who can't keep your damn nose out of things that don't concern you.

I will not have to answer to God about my support for homosexuals... because I DO NOT support that lifestyle.
Just because your a damned fool who wants to push your ideals on other people and I don't, doesn't make me a supporter.
I don't support being gay one bit. But I will be damned if I am going to tell them how to live their life.

Our country, that you incorrectly think was founded on Christian principles, is a country that holds the value
that individuals are responsible for themselves and have free will of their own lives.

I'm just curious, if you are so damn concerned about peoples souls, why are you out criticizing the Buddhist or Athiests?

No, I don't support gays, but what I support is people being able to live their lives without interference from
idiots like yourself who wish to push their ideology and religion on other people!
YOU are the EXACT type of person and the EXACT reason that our Constitution is written the way it is...
...and YOU are the EXACT type of person that the forefathers warned us against and the EXACT reason
we do not have any type of state sponsored religion.
Because people like YOU try to tell others how they should live, because "the Bible says so..."
YOU are no better than the king of England that our country broke away from.

This post has been edited by Nitro: 29 July 2012 - 05:25 PM

[afewcardsshy]

This is for you Nitro


April 25, 1689 – The Great Law of Pennsylvania is passed.

“Whereas the glory of Almighty God and the good of mankind is the reason and the end of government … therefore government itself is a venerable ordinance of God …”

May 20, 1775 – North Carolina passes the Mecklenburg County Resolutions.

“We hereby declare ourselves a free and independent people; are, and of a right ought to be, a sovereign and self-governing association, under control of no other power than that of our God and the general government of Congress.”

Summer 12, 1775 – Continental Congress issues a call to all citizens to fast and pray and confess their sin that the Lord might bless the land.

“And it is recommended to Christians of all denominations, to assemble for public worship, and to abstain from servile labor and recreation on said day.”

Summer 2-4, 1776 – Declaration of Independence written and signed.

“We hold these truths … that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights … appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world … And for the support of this Declaration, with firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence…”

As the Declaration was being signed, Samuel Adams said: “We have this day restored the Sovereign to Whom all men ought to be obedient. He reigns in heaven, and from the rising to the setting of the sun, let his kingdom come.”

On the same day, Benjamin Franklin suggested that the national motto be: “Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.”

Historian and philosopher G.K. Chesterton said of the founding of America that it is “the only nation in the world that is founded on a creed. That creed is set forth in dogmatic and even theological lucidity in the Declaration of Independence.”

September 17, 1787 – The Constitution of the United States is finished.

At least 50 out of the 55 men who framed the Constitution of the United States were professing Christians. (M.E. Bradford, A Worthy Company, Plymouth Rock Foundation., 1982).

Eleven of the first 13 States required faith in Jesus Christ and the Bible as qualification for holding public office.

The Constitution of each of the 50 States acknowledges and calls upon the Providence of God for the blessings of freedom.

1787 – James Madison, the “architect” of the federal Constitution and fourth president:

“We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future .. upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to sustain ourselves, according to the Ten Commandments of God.”

April 30, 1789 – Washington gives his First Inaugural Address.

“My fervent supplications to that Almighty Being Who rules over the universe, Who presides in the council of nations, and Whose providential aid can supply every human defect, that His benediction may consecrate to the liberties and happiness of the people of the United States a government instituted by Himself for these essential purposes.”

March 11, 1792 – President George Washington:

“I am sure that never was a people who had more reason to acknowledge a Divine interposition in their affairs than those of the United States; and I should be pained to believe that they have forgotten that agency which so often manifested in the Revolution.”

December 20, 1820 – Daniel Webster, Plymouth Massachusetts:

“Let us not forget the religious character of our origin. Our fathers brought hither their high veneration for the Christian religion. They journeyed by its light, and labored in its hope. They sought to incorporate … and to diffuse its influence through all their institutions, civil, political and literary.”

July 4, 1821 – John Quincy Adams:

“The highest glory of the American Revolution was this: it connected, in one indissoluble bond, the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity. From the day of the Declaration … they (the American people) were bound by the laws of God, which they all, and by the laws of the Gospel, which they nearly all, acknowledged as the rules of their conduct

[zoocrew]

afewcardsshy, on 29 July 2012 - 04:44 PM, said:

This is for you Nitro


April 25, 1689 – The Great Law of Pennsylvania is passed.

"Whereas the glory of Almighty God and the good of mankind is the reason and the end of government … therefore government itself is a venerable ordinance of God …"

Yes. True. And the colony established an official church. The nation doesn't.


May 20, 1775 – North Carolina passes the Mecklenburg County Resolutions.

"We hereby declare ourselves a free and independent people; are, and of a right ought to be, a sovereign and self-governing association, under control of no other power than that of our God and the general government of Congress."

Not a a national law and before the country was founded.




Summer 12, 1775 – Continental Congress issues a call to all citizens to fast and pray and confess their sin that the Lord might bless the land.

"And it is recommended to Christians of all denominations, to assemble for public worship, and to abstain from servile labor and recreation on said day."


Again, before the nation's founding and was not part of the Constituion.



Summer 2-4, 1776 – Declaration of Independence written and signed.

"We hold these truths … that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights … appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world … And for the support of this Declaration, with firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence…"

As the Declaration was being signed, Samuel Adams said: "We have this day restored the Sovereign to Whom all men ought to be obedient. He reigns in heaven, and from the rising to the setting of the sun, let his kingdom come."

On the same day, Benjamin Franklin suggested that the national motto be: "Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God."

Historian and philosopher G.K. Chesterton said of the founding of America that it is "the only nation in the world that is founded on a creed. That creed is set forth in dogmatic and even theological lucidity in the Declaration of Independence."

Hooey. Several quotes that are not factual or taken out of context. Chesterton was not a founding father and the quote is twisted together of various things he did say.





September 17, 1787 – The Constitution of the United States is finished.

At least 50 out of the 55 men who framed the Constitution of the United States were professing Christians. (M.E. Bradford, A Worthy Company, Plymouth Rock Foundation., 1982).

Not true.





Eleven of the first 13 States required faith in Jesus Christ and the Bible as qualification for holding public office.

Something the states then changed after the Constitution was adopted.




The Constitution of each of the 50 States acknowledges and calls upon the Providence of God for the blessings of freedom.

Not true.



1787 – James Madison, the "architect" of the federal Constitution and fourth president:

"We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future .. upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to sustain ourselves, according to the Ten Commandments of God."

He never said that. Never found in any of Madison's writings.



April 30, 1789 – Washington gives his First Inaugural Address.

"My fervent supplications to that Almighty Being Who rules over the universe, Who presides in the council of nations, and Whose providential aid can supply every human defect, that His benediction may consecrate to the liberties and happiness of the people of the United States a government instituted by Himself for these essential purposes."

Taken out of context. Not a law. Deism.



March 11, 1792 – President George Washington:

"I am sure that never was a people who had more reason to acknowledge a Divine interposition in their affairs than those of the United States; and I should be pained to believe that they have forgotten that agency which so often manifested in the Revolution."

Context. Not a law that founded that our nation.






December 20, 1820 – Daniel Webster, Plymouth Massachusetts:

"Let us not forget the religious character of our origin. Our fathers brought hither their high veneration for the Christian religion. They journeyed by its light, and labored in its hope. They sought to incorporate … and to diffuse its influence through all their institutions, civil, political and literary."

Not a founding father. A theocrat.




July 4, 1821 – John Quincy Adams:

"The highest glory of the American Revolution was this: it connected, in one indissoluble bond, the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity. From the day of the Declaration … they (the American people) were bound by the laws of God, which they all, and by the laws of the Gospel, which they nearly all, acknowledged as the rules of their conduct

Never said it. Not a founding father. Adams never said that. Not in any of his letters or writings.

[Nitro]

You do not know the difference in referencing God and and Jesus Christ.

Once again, maybe this will sink if to your thick skull.

Believing and trusting in GOD is a "Christian." The Jewish faith believes in GOD, but they are NOT Christian.
You have to believe in Christ and accept him as your savior, to be Christian.
If I say that GOD is my creator, GOD is my guide, and GOD is who I pray too, that DOES NOT make me a Christian.

You REALLY need to go to church and learn a little more about this faith that you claim to be!

afewcardsshy, on 29 July 2012 - 04:44 PM, said:

April 25, 1689 – The Great Law of Pennsylvania is passed.
“Whereas the glory of Almighty God and the good of mankind is the reason and the end of government … therefore government itself is a venerable ordinance of God …”

You realize this was before the country was founded, right? Oh, yeah, probably not... you don't know history.
Not a damned word about Christianity or the fact that our nation was founded on those principles.

afewcardsshy, on 29 July 2012 - 04:44 PM, said:

May 20, 1775 – North Carolina passes the Mecklenburg County Resolutions.

“We hereby declare ourselves a free and independent people; are, and of a right ought to be, a sovereign and self-governing association, under control of no other power than that of our God and the general government of Congress.”

Again, not a damned word about Christianity. And notice is says "...that of OUR God?"
How do you know which "God" they are referring? Ya know, the Buddhist consider their god, "the God."
Oh, and once again... BEFORE the country was founded.

afewcardsshy, on 29 July 2012 - 04:44 PM, said:

Summer 12, 1775 – Continental Congress issues a call to all citizens to fast and pray and confess their sin that the Lord might bless the land.

“And it is recommended to Christians of all denominations, to assemble for public worship, and to abstain from servile labor and recreation on said day.”

Once again, where does this say that our nation is founded upon Christian principles?
I want to see legal documents that say it is so. You can't provide any.
There ARE in fact, legal documents that state otherwise.

The quotes of various notable people expressing their faith and asking others to do the same is NOT recognizing the nation as any
given religion based.

afewcardsshy, on 29 July 2012 - 04:44 PM, said:

Summer 2-4, 1776 – Declaration of Independence written and signed.

“We hold these truths … that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights … appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world … And for the support of this Declaration, with firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence…”

As the Declaration was being signed, Samuel Adams said: “We have this day restored the Sovereign to Whom all men ought to be obedient. He reigns in heaven, and from the rising to the setting of the sun, let his kingdom come.”

Once again, where is the idea of "Christian." Once again, you fail to understand the difference in believing in a supreme ruler/God and
being a Christian.

afewcardsshy, on 29 July 2012 - 04:44 PM, said:

On the same day, Benjamin Franklin suggested that the national motto be: “Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.”

No Christianity there either.

afewcardsshy, on 29 July 2012 - 04:44 PM, said:

Historian and philosopher G.K. Chesterton said of the founding of America that it is “the only nation in the world that is founded on a creed. That creed is set forth in dogmatic and even theological lucidity in the Declaration of Independence.”

A quote from someone who lived in the late 1870's to the early 1900's. Yep, he's one of the founding fathers that professed Christianity, huh?

afewcardsshy, on 29 July 2012 - 04:44 PM, said:

At least 50 out of the 55 men who framed the Constitution of the United States were professing Christians. (M.E. Bradford, A Worthy Company, Plymouth Rock Foundation., 1982).

You better do some more research because that is flat out wrong. LOL

As I state before, the large majority of them were deist or Freemason's.

afewcardsshy, on 29 July 2012 - 04:44 PM, said:

Eleven of the first 13 States required faith in Jesus Christ and the Bible as qualification for holding public office.

That's funny... because Article 6 of the Constitution says, "The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

Guess you're wrong on that too!

afewcardsshy, on 29 July 2012 - 04:44 PM, said:

The Constitution of each of the 50 States acknowledges and calls upon the Providence of God for the blessings of freedom.

No mention of Christ or Christianity... AGAIN.

afewcardsshy, on 29 July 2012 - 04:44 PM, said:

1787 – James Madison, the “architect” of the federal Constitution and fourth president:

“We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future .. upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to sustain ourselves, according to the Ten Commandments of God.”

First, James Madison never wrote those words... They do not appear in any of his journals or writings.
However, as I stated earlier, parts of our foundation were from the old testament and the Ten Commandments... I guess you don't remember me saying
that or you are too stupid to understand it. In case you didn't know, the old testament was BEFORE Christ.
This again, has nothing to do with Christianity.

afewcardsshy, on 29 July 2012 - 04:44 PM, said:

April 30, 1789 – Washington gives his First Inaugural Address.

“My fervent supplications to that Almighty Being Who rules over the universe, Who presides in the council of nations, and Whose providential aid can supply every human defect, that His benediction may consecrate to the liberties and happiness of the people of the United States a government instituted by Himself for these essential purposes.”

He doesn't even say "God," much less a reference to Christ.

afewcardsshy, on 29 July 2012 - 04:44 PM, said:

March 11, 1792 – President George Washington:

“I am sure that never was a people who had more reason to acknowledge a Divine interposition in their affairs than those of the United States; and I should be pained to believe that they have forgotten that agency which so often manifested in the Revolution.”

Once again, doesn't even mention "God," much less Christ.

afewcardsshy, on 29 July 2012 - 04:44 PM, said:

December 20, 1820 – Daniel Webster, Plymouth Massachusetts:

“Let us not forget the religious character of our origin. Our fathers brought hither their high veneration for the Christian religion. They journeyed by its light, and labored in its hope. They sought to incorporate … and to diffuse its influence through all their institutions, civil, political and literary.”

The last time I checked, he's not a forefather either. He's just a person, mistakenly expressing his view, incorrectly.

afewcardsshy, on 29 July 2012 - 04:44 PM, said:

July 4, 1821 – John Quincy Adams:

“The highest glory of the American Revolution was this: it connected, in one indissoluble bond, the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity. From the day of the Declaration … they (the American people) were bound by the laws of God, which they all, and by the laws of the Gospel, which they nearly all, acknowledged as the rules of their conduct

Another opinion. Not a fact. This quote was 32 years after the founding of the nation.

Face it, you cannot provide ANY single piece of documentation that is written in to law or legal documentation that says differently.
There IS legal documentation that says we are NOT founded on Christian values.
You are just too damn stupid to admin you're wrong.

You keep getting your ass handed to you and keep coming back for more.

This post has been edited by Nitro: 29 July 2012 - 06:09 PM

[El Zorro]

I agree with the poster who said the news media has taken what Cathy has said and turned it into something he didn't say. I also think this thread has a lot of hate in it, but not towards gays.

[lowrider]

I'm glad I don't care and don't have anything to post...........

[zoocrew]

The secessionist said the same thing.

[SOLO]

You guys are a whole hell a lot more upset about this than my gay daughter and her partner .

[BooRadley]

Well I did my part. I boycotted CFA today.

[afewcardsshy]

Alright ZC and Nitro prove me wrong. I just proved you wrong. . I say you two are the ones that are wrong and non-factual.

And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed-if all records told the same tale-then the lie passed into history and became truth. 'Who controls the past' ran the Party slogan, 'controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.'"


<li>

"Day by day and almost minute by minute the past was brought up to date. In this way every prediction made by the Party could be shown by documentary evidence to have been correct; nor was any item of news, or any expression of opinion, which conflicted with the needs of the moment, ever allowed to remain on record. All history was a palimpsest, scraped clean and reinscribed exactly as often as was necessary."

George Orwell was about 15 years off huh?

BooRadley, on 29 July 2012 - 07:23 PM, said:

Well I did my part. I boycotted CFA today.

Me too. Just got back from checkers.

[Johnny Jacobs]

afewcardsshy, on 29 July 2012 - 07:26 PM, said:

Alright ZC and Nitro prove me wrong. I just proved you wrong. . I say you two are the ones that are wrong and non-factual.

...

These two have shown that you are wrong in your assertions. You have just proven how ignorant and confused one can become when subscribing to the revisionist propaganda.

[afewcardsshy]

My money is on Nitro a Mason , therefore he will defend his dozen or so brothers that were part of the founding of this country. Much as I will defend JFK as being one of the best presidents this country may ever know. Oh, and please tell me the great accomplishments that those Freemasons which became president accomplished.

[afewcardsshy]

I do not want ot hear it Nitro

[Nitro]

afewcardsshy, on 29 July 2012 - 07:26 PM, said:

Alright ZC and Nitro prove me wrong. I just proved you wrong. . I say you two are the ones that are wrong and non-factual.

Yes, you really are that stupid. You have been proven wrong you're just too stupid to know it.

You don't know American history.

You don't know the basis of your own religion.

You're a bigot.

And you're the prime example of a religious zealot that our forefathers specifically did not want us to become.

[Nitro]

afewcardsshy, on 29 July 2012 - 07:49 PM, said:

My money is on Nitro a Mason , therefore he will defend his dozen or so brothers that were part of the founding of this country. Much as I will defend JFK as being one of the best presidents this country may ever know. Oh, and please tell me the great accomplishments that those Freemasons which became president accomplished.

#1. There's a difference in a Freemason and a Mason.

#2. No, I am not a brick layer, nor am I a Freemason.
And with your intelligence, I seriously doubt you have enough money to be betting on anything.

#3. The great accomplishments of those Freemasons?
a. They revolted against England and became traitors of the crown.
b. They created the greatest country on earth, The United States of America.
c. They created a binding law called the Constitution of the United States to protect us citizens from
over zealot religious fanatics, such as yourself from imposing their beliefs on everyone.

afewcardsshy, on 29 July 2012 - 08:39 PM, said:

I do not want ot hear it Nitro

You haven't been hearing it all along... that's the problem.

Maybe if you heard it, you'd learn something about our country and it's history.

Maybe you'd learn to live and let live and mind your own damn business on things that are no concern of yours.

This post has been edited by Nitro: 29 July 2012 - 08:48 PM

[afewcardsshy]

Nitro, on 29 July 2012 - 08:47 PM, said:

#1. There's a difference in a Freemason and a Mason.

#2. No, I am not a brick layer, nor am I a Freemason.
And with your intelligence, I seriously doubt you have enough money to be betting on anything.

#3. The great accomplishments of those Freemasons?
a. They revolted against England and became traitors of the crown.
b. They created the greatest country on earth, The United States of America.
c. They created a binding law called the Constitution of the United States to protect us citizens from
over zealot religious fanatics, such as yourself from imposing their beliefs on everyone.



You haven't been hearing it all along... that's the problem.

Maybe if you heard it, you'd learn something about our country and it's history.

Maybe you'd learn to live and let live and mind your own damn business on things that are no concern of yours.

UHm I said while president. And you are right I don't have enough money to bet on any thing, just gave it all to anti gay marriage groups And how can you get so pissed at unintelligent people of you are of superior intelligence. All I have learned is that you like to spread propaganda for the establishment of BIG BRO. and it is people like you that have caused a country that my ancestors helped build and have lost limbs, and died for to be thrown into a relentless battle of political correctness. you sir could not teach history to a bunch of ignorant inbred homos from eastbumblefuk,

[the help]

Nitro should have went to the range and shot some of that expensive ammo. Took afewcards with him as a target. Is this what you two call christianity. ha

[sungoddess]

I will ALSO be at Chic fil a on August 1 to purchase food not only because I like their food but to support the right of ANYONE to speak their belief without being discriminated against themselves. Geez, I have beliefs also and would hope I won't be bashed because I speak them! Looks like Chic fil a will benefit BIG from this!

[afewcardsshy]

the help, on 29 July 2012 - 09:05 PM, said:

Nitro should have went to the range and shot some of that expensive ammo. Took afewcards with him as a target. Is this what you two call christianity. ha

I shoot back

[Nitro]

afewcardsshy, on 29 July 2012 - 08:58 PM, said:

UHm I said while president. And you are right I don't have enough money to bet on any thing, just gave it all to anti gay marriage groups And how can you get so pissed at unintelligent people of you are of superior intelligence. All I have learned is that you like to spread propaganda for the establishment of BIG BRO. and it is people like you that have caused a country that my ancestors helped build and have lost limbs, and died for to be thrown into a relentless battle of political correctness. you sir could not teach history to a bunch of ignorant inbred homos from eastbumblefuk,

Umm... No, you didn't say "while President."
You said, Oh, and please tell me the great accomplishments that those Freemasons which became president accomplished."
And you didn't use a coma where you should have, either.

I'm not pissed at anyone.

I like to spread propaganda for "big bro?" Bahahahahahaha! Yeah, you're an idiot!!!

So, let me get this straight...
I support Chick-Fil-A's right to say what they said and I don't support being gay.
However, I do support any persons right to live their life as they see fit as long
as it doesn't interfere with mine or someone else's life.

I'm a firearm's instructor and lifetime member of the NRA.

I don't believe that people have the right to push their religious views on others.

I believe the government does not and is not subscribe to any religion, as defined by the
Constitution and the founding fathers.

Where in ANYTHING I said can you conclude that I like big government or I'm politically correct?
YOU are the one who's wanting the government to regulate people's lives, not me!
Are you drinking or are you really that stupid?
And just an FYI my ancestors fought for this country... and I guarantee you my ancestors have been
in this country longer than yours. Seeing my ancestors were here LONG before the Spanish settlers arrived.

You think I am politically correct? And what in the hell ever gave you that idea?

Your ancestors should be damn ashamed of your sorry ass for thinking people should not have the right to believe as they wish and
not as YOU wish them to believe. It's people like your sorry ass is the reason this country was founded.

I do have one other question for you though. Since you believe that the country was founded on Christian beliefs,
do you then believe slavery is Christian like? Because most all of the founding fathers owned slaves.
Do you think Christ would approve of people owning another human being?

Your ability to follow a conversation is incomprehensible.
Your knowledge of history is flat out mind numbingly wrong.
Your bigoted views and what you call being a Christian is a disgrace to Christ himself and the Christian faith in total.

It's the so called "Christian" religious zealots and extremists like yourself who persecuted and killed
hundreds of innocent people and labeled them as witches, because stupidity, ignorance, and bigotry.

afewcardsshy, on 29 July 2012 - 10:06 PM, said:

I shoot back

If your aim is as bad as your understanding of history, I really wouldn't be too concerned.

This post has been edited by Nitro: 30 July 2012 - 06:03 AM

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I'm confused, are we getting a chicken sandwich or not?