[PUBBY]

	This video will have you saying yes to the TSPLOST - guaranteed. Scott Greene and George Jones lay out the option in such a way that if you live in Paulding, you'll understand that good deals like this don't come along too often and now is the time to say YES!
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[mei lan]

Aw, you're so cute. Bless your little optimistic heart.

[feelip]

I'm voting no and I guarantee it.

[gonefromhere]

Voting "NO" Today !!!!


DONE !!Vote has been cast....

This post has been edited by gonefromhere: 20 July 2012 - 10:01 AM

[winston1972]

Food prices and gas prices will be going up significantly because of the drought. I can count on another 20% increase in health ins premiums, plus who knows what else will pop up- car repairs, new tires, etc and with the economy about to go into recession, I'm sure not going to vote for a double digit % increase in the amount of sales tax.

[feelip]

Of course Scott Green is going to have nothing but good things to say about the TSPLOST, it's job security for him. Come to think of it EVERYONE that it preaching about what a grand idea it is stands to profit from it. Eff you people, go out and make a living like the rest of us and stop mooching off the tax payers.

[cobb transplant]

If all that money was coming to me, I guarantee you I would vote yes. But I'm not a connected like that, so, um...no.

[FreeBird]

feelip, on 20 July 2012 - 07:30 AM, said:

Of course Scott Green is going to have nothing but good things to say about the TSPLOST, it's job security for him. Come to think of it EVERYONE that it preaching about what a grand idea it is stands to profit from it. Eff you people, go out and make a living like the rest of us and stop mooching off the tax payers.

As I was searching for the house bill details on this one I got googled to one of the sites support it. At the bottom I saw that it was paid for by Yancy Brothers.... Hummmmm, don't they sell a lot of heavy equipment? Like the stuff used for building roads?

[feelip]

FreeBird, on 20 July 2012 - 07:52 AM, said:

As I was searching for the house bill details on this one I got googled to one of the sites support it. At the bottom I saw that it was paid for by Yancy Brothers.... Hummmmm, don't they sell a lot of heavy equipment? Like the stuff used for building roads?

Yeah. I saw that the other day. Drove by the rock quarry out on Mulberry Rock Road (I think that is the road) and they have signs out supporting it.

All these people are very blatant because voters have always approved the 1% sales taxes. Now they are all getting worried that MOST of us aren't as stupid as they gave us credit for being. I have never seen politicians try to re-position themselves like they are doing.

Hell, even Nathan stopped giving Bill Heath a reach around long enough to say he was getting rid of the 400 toll.....in 18 months. Reminds me of Bruce Harris saying "if I can just get 4 more years Mr. Travis."

This whole thing is sickening and I hope we are able to shove their idea right up their asses. Next time be a little more creative and remember that we are all in this bad economy and we don't appreciate a few people we have trusted to govern us trying to stab us in the back.

[winston1972]

feelip, on 20 July 2012 - 08:06 AM, said:

Yeah. I saw that the other day. Drove by the rock quarry out on Mulberry Rock Road (I think that is the road) and they have signs out supporting it.

All these people are very blatant because voters have always approved the 1% sales taxes. Now they are all getting worried that MOST of us aren't as stupid as they gave us credit for being. I have never seen politicians try to re-position themselves like they are doing.

Hell, even Nathan stopped giving Bill Heath a reach around long enough to say he was getting rid of the 400 toll.....in 18 months. Reminds me of Bruce Harris saying "if I can just get 4 more years Mr. Travis."

This whole thing is sickening and I hope we are able to shove their idea right up their asses. Next time be a little more creative and remember that we are all in this bad economy and we don't appreciate a few people we have trusted to govern us trying to stab us in the back.

I have lost ALL TRUST in elected officials. I will always vote the incumbent out and will never vote for a tax increase...

[STRAWMAN]

Still voting No

[feelip]

winston1972, on 20 July 2012 - 08:12 AM, said:

I have lost ALL TRUST in elected officials. I will always vote the incumbent out and will never vote for a tax increase...

I intend to put a little more thought into it than that. I'm not voting out a good incumbent for someone I don't feel is capable of doing the job.

[AdamnAarens Mom]

winston1972, on 20 July 2012 - 08:12 AM, said:

I have lost ALL TRUST in elected officials. I will always vote the incumbent out and will never vote for a tax increase...

AMEN 1000%

[FreeBird]

Another observation. Laurie points out that it would be good to have good roads to bring people into the county to purchase homes that are at a lower price. Longer commutes may offset that "value" that a prospective resident may see.

I thought the goal of the BOC was to bring business into the county so we grow away from being a bedroom community? Do we want to be a more efficient bedroom community or bring industry to us? Or both?

$10 million for oversight - whose brother-in-law will that be?

[feelip]

FreeBird, on 20 July 2012 - 08:20 AM, said:

Another observation. Laurie points out that it would be good to have good roads to bring people into the county to purchase homes that are at a lower price. Longer commutes may offset that "value" that a prospective resident may see.

I thought the goal of the BOC was to bring business into the county so we grow away from being a bedroom community? Do we want to be a more efficient bedroom community or bring industry to us? Or both?

$10 million for oversight - whose brother-in-law will that be?

I can't watch the entire video. Where was the $10 Million oversight?

[LPPT]

FreeBird, on 20 July 2012 - 08:20 AM, said:

Another observation. Laurie points out that it would be good to have good roads to bring people into the county to purchase homes that are at a lower price. Longer commutes may offset that "value" that a prospective resident may see.

I thought the goal of the BOC was to bring business into the county so we grow away from being a bedroom community? Do we want to be a more efficient bedroom community or bring industry to us? Or both?

$10 million for oversight - whose brother-in-law will that be?

We still have real estate people in this county with families to feed.
The Yancy brother's employees have families to feed.
No matter where you put a road it will go through someones land.
Scott Green will not lose his job, We still have roads and intersections.
He also has a family to feed.
Every new company will have CEO's with families, they will go to our schools and will boost our economy.

I think you folks need to keep your pennies.
That way you won't have anything to complain about when it comes to roads or traffic problems in the county.

People need hope right now that things will get better. Maybe after the presidential elections some will allow others to have hope again and to believe that everything is not bad.

Your attitude comes from feeling like you have no control over your lives because the mistakes of the government have put you in a recession.
The tsplost gave you more control over your tax money than you will ever see again.
They are laughing at you at the state house, the people proved once again that they wanted the government to make all the decisions for them.


I said in my other post that this is not going to pass, I am done with it.
I think it is terrible that people are worried about others getting jobs from this.
Every day people your neighbors and family.
This project is not handing out free rides, it is giving people the opportunity to feed their families, get off of unemployment and work.
When they spend others will be hired in all sectors.
You people are talking about it like it was a welfare program, you will see what this money is doing in your community every day, it is not going to Washington or Atlanta to never be seen again.

Or is because you can see it you don't like it?
I think you need to simply say I am going to keep my pennies period and be done with it.

[FreeBird]

feelip, on 20 July 2012 - 08:38 AM, said:

I can't watch the entire video. Where was the $10 Million oversight?

go to about 13:45 where the 1-2% (budgeted at 10 million) for oversight and distribution of funds.

[LPPT]

feelip, on 20 July 2012 - 08:38 AM, said:

I can't watch the entire video. Where was the $10 Million oversight?

I believe that number is for oversight statewide for the entire 10 years, It is a tiny percent of what the tpslost will bring in over 10 years.
We are not talking one person doing the oversight we are talking hundreds over 10 years from counties and regions. It really amounts to a stipend to these people for time and gas.

[feelip]

LPPT, on 20 July 2012 - 08:46 AM, said:

We still have real estate people in this county with families to feed.
The Yancy brother's employees have families to feed.
No matter where you put a road it will go through someones land.
Scott Green will not lose his job, We still have roads and intersections.
He also has a family to feed.
Every new company will have CEO's with families, they will go to our schools and will boost our economy.

I think you folks need to keep your pennies.
That way you won't have anything to complain about when it comes to roads or traffic problems in the county.

People need hope right now that things will get better. Maybe after the presidential elections some will allow others to have hope again and to believe that everything is not bad.

Your attitude comes from feeling like you have no control over your lives because the mistakes of the government have put you in a recession.
The tsplost gave you more control over your tax money than you will ever see again.
They are laughing at you at the state house, the people proved once again that they wanted the government to make all the decisions for them.


I said in my other post that this is not going to pass, I am done with it.
I think it is terrible that people are worried about others getting jobs from this.
Every day people your neighbors and family.
This project is not handing out free rides, it is giving people the opportunity to feed their families, get off of unemployment and work.
When they spend others will be hired in all sectors.
You people are talking about it like it was a welfare program, you will see what this money is doing in your community every day, it is not going to Washington or Atlanta to never be seen again.

Or is because you can see it you don't like it?
I think you need to simply say I am going to keep my pennies period and be done with it.

I am going to keep my pennies.

It is not my duty to give my money to someone so that their industry provides them a living.

[lowrider]

Quote

Hell, even Nathan stopped giving Bill Heath a reach around long enough to say he was getting rid of the 400 toll.....in 18 months. Reminds me of Bruce Harris saying "if I can just get 4 more years Mr. Travis."

IKR?

Just in time for the TSPLOST and then in time for his re-election.

Total distrust of the government and disdain for politicians. That's how I feel.

[FreeBird]

LPPT, on 20 July 2012 - 08:51 AM, said:

I believe that number is for oversight statewide for the entire 10 years, It is a tiny percent of what the tpslost will bring in over 10 years.
We are not talking one person doing the oversight we are talking hundreds over 10 years from counties and regions. It really amounts to a stipend to these people for time and gas.

I took it as 10 million for our region, should it pass. 1-2% of the state wide funds would be more than 10 million - and you would then have "our" funds going outside of the region which is a "pro" for the region tax.

[WHITEY]

LPPT, on 20 July 2012 - 08:46 AM, said:

We still have real estate people in this county with families to feed.
The Yancy brother's employees have families to feed.
No matter where you put a road it will go through someones land.
Scott Green will not lose his job, We still have roads and intersections.
He also has a family to feed.
Every new company will have CEO's with families, they will go to our schools and will boost our economy.

I think you folks need to keep your pennies.
That way you won't have anything to complain about when it comes to roads or traffic problems in the county.

People need hope right now that things will get better. Maybe after the presidential elections some will allow others to have hope again and to believe that everything is not bad.

Your attitude comes from feeling like you have no control over your lives because the mistakes of the government have put you in a recession.
The tsplost gave you more control over your tax money than you will ever see again.
They are laughing at you at the state house, the people proved once again that they wanted the government to make all the decisions for them.


I said in my other post that this is not going to pass, I am done with it.
I think it is terrible that people are worried about others getting jobs from this.
Every day people your neighbors and family.
This project is not handing out free rides, it is giving people the opportunity to feed their families, get off of unemployment and work.
When they spend others will be hired in all sectors.
You people are talking about it like it was a welfare program, you will see what this money is doing in your community every day, it is not going to Washington or Atlanta to never be seen again.

Or is because you can see it you don't like it?
I think you need to simply say I am going to keep my pennies period and be done with it.

I am opposed for one big reason Bill Heath and Paulette Braddock voted to exempt certain large campaign donors from having to pay any of this tax.
It makes me real angry when politicians vote themselves a tax break and vote to tax the middle class and the lower middle class and exempt themselves.
I asked the specific question about the exemptions at the Town Hall this past Tuesday At first the question was ignored, after submitting the question again in plain view of the camera Boyd Austin took the question (view the tape for yourself) and went all the way around the MULBERRY BUSH and never answered the question.
Do know that I approached Terry Lawler and Boyd Austin after the meeting and was assured that I will be e-mailed the answer. As of right now still no answer WTH!!!!!
What is most disturbing is Bill (TAX /FEE) Heath and Paulette (Me too) Braddock do not have the guts to face the electorate and support the very bill that they voted to bring to the voters in the beginning. Both were for it before they were against it
If the trucking industry, which, is a major user of our roads, And the paving industry/heavy equipment industry is excluded from this tax why should I be paying this tax on groceries and RX drugs??
It is past time to elect people who walk like they talk Elect DAVID AUSTIN JK RODGERS HEIDI LEGGETT AND MELISSA MORRISON for real change in Paulding County

[PowderSpringsDad]

NOPE. No way.

[STRAWMAN]

feelip, on 20 July 2012 - 09:25 AM, said:

I am going to keep my pennies.

It is not my duty to give my money to someone so that their industry provides them a living.

So if we all give our collective pennies, some other people can get the money to do road work and get our pennies. Then those people spend those pennies, which goes back into the businesses. So at this point the businesses have the pennies. They pay themselves and their workers these pennies. Then the worker goes and buys something at Walmart, and they take his pennies all over again. There is nothing being produced no wealth being made, just redistribution of pennies.

[PUBBY]

feelip, on 20 July 2012 - 07:30 AM, said:

Of course Scott Green is going to have nothing but good things to say about the TSPLOST, it's job security for him. Come to think of it EVERYONE that it preaching about what a grand idea it is stands to profit from it. Eff you people, go out and make a living like the rest of us and stop mooching off the tax payers.

Scott Greene and many others talking this up will not make a profit from it. How would the county DOT guy make a profit?

What these folks bring to the table is expertise.

Now I know that you've got land and that at least a portion the land you got most probably has increased dramatically in value when roads were improved and access granted. I know this because land was mighty cheap back in 1977 in Paulding and, particularly at its peak, the increased value of land was created by improved access.

I know you won't agree, but it was that public investment in transportation fillip, not your shining intellect that caused the appreciation in value.

And what did you pay for that appreciation in value? Your fuel taxes for one but why should you get the enjoyment of the roads (like everyone else paying fuel taxes) and a windfall appreciation in your property's value?

Even if the rest of your land is not greatly improved by the east Hiram by-pass, the value you did get on the land sold for that project was by definition higher because 278 existed. Again, you are not really responsible because you did nothing to improve that land other than pay your fuel taxes.

Today those who may be down on their luck can still remember the boom days of 2004-2006 when the money was flowing in the real-estate boom. The boom was here because of the transportation infrastructure.

Having looked at the projects, there is no doubt in my mind that they would improve traffic flows in Paulding to Cobb and within the county.

In most cosmic understanding, the concept that time equals money has validity. Projects, like the Bus 6 traffic control computers anticipated as part of the TSPLOST, could save everyone who travels that road, even a little, hours over the course of ten years. For those who use it regularly, the savings could be a week and even if you didn't count your time as money, the money saved from the car not idling for a week would payback that one-percent on sales.

You're not seeing the value because you don't want to see the value.

You're approaching it from your innate conservatism which, whether you want to recognize it or not, is noted for its interest in doing nothing, changing nothing. That resistance to change which is expressed as a resistance to progress.

Even though, feelip, the whole thing of improving infrastructure has made your life better, your pocket fuller and your commutes safer.

pubby

[Papi]

feelip, on 20 July 2012 - 05:50 AM, said:

I'm voting no and I guarantee it.

You and me and hopefully the rest of the state!

[WHITEY]

PUBBY, on 20 July 2012 - 12:07 PM, said:

Scott Greene and many others talking this up will not make a profit from it. How would the county DOT guy make a profit?

What these folks bring to the table is expertise.

Now I know that you've got land and that at least a portion the land you got most probably has increased dramatically in value when roads were improved and access granted. I know this because land was mighty cheap back in 1977 in Paulding and, particularly at its peak, the increased value of land was created by improved access.

I know you won't agree, but it was that public investment in transportation fillip, not your shining intellect that caused the appreciation in value.

And what did you pay for that appreciation in value? Your fuel taxes for one but why should you get the enjoyment of the roads (like everyone else paying fuel taxes) and a windfall appreciation in your property's value?

Even if the rest of your land is not greatly improved by the east Hiram by-pass, the value you did get on the land sold for that project was by definition higher because 278 existed. Again, you are not really responsible because you did nothing to improve that land other than pay your fuel taxes.

Today those who may be down on their luck can still remember the boom days of 2004-2006 when the money was flowing in the real-estate boom. The boom was here because of the transportation infrastructure.

Having looked at the projects, there is no doubt in my mind that they would improve traffic flows in Paulding to Cobb and within the county.

In most cosmic understanding, the concept that time equals money has validity. Projects, like the Bus 6 traffic control computers anticipated as part of the TSPLOST, could save everyone who travels that road, even a little, hours over the course of ten years. For those who use it regularly, the savings could be a week and even if you didn't county your time as money, the money saved from the car not idling for a week would payback that one-percent on sales.

You're not seeing the value because you don't want to see the value.

You're approaching it from your innate conservatism which, whether you want to recognize it or not, is noted for its interest in doing nothing, changing nothing. That resistance to change which is expressed as a resistance to progress.

Even though, feelip, the whole thing of improving infrastructure has made your life better, your pocket fuller and your commutes safer.

pubby

Pubby What you and LPPT are failing to realize is the fact that many exemptions have been given to large corporations and they will not be required to pay this additional tax, Leaving the entire burden on the middle and lower income citizens to foot the bill for the entire program.
If the legislature saw a need for additional taxes for roads then they should of increased the tax on gasoline/diesel fuel instead of taxing those who rarely use these roads with no exemptions to anyone.
Heath and Braddock voted to give their big campaign donors exemptions from paying this tax and it is doomed to fail no matter how much BS ya'll spread about it.

[winston1972]

Papi, on 20 July 2012 - 12:23 PM, said:

You and me and hopefully the rest of the state!

Wouldn't that be something if every Region in the state voted NO!!!

[LisaC]

Too bad it wasn't a money back guarantee.... My vote is still NO.

[markdavd]

winston1972, on 20 July 2012 - 12:29 PM, said:

Wouldn't that be something if every Region in the state voted NO!!!

I don't really care about the rest of the state, as long as our region votes NO!

[AdamnAarens Mom]

I just came from the dentist and it was a hot topic there, everyone voting No. My daughter and I just early voted and voted NO. I then stopped at Publix to get some bread and the cashier saw our "I'm a Georgia Voter" stickers and said she and her daughter had voted that morning and how there were a lot more people there than she expected and that this election is so important because of that "awful transportation tax." The man in line behind us was shaking his head in agreement.

Certainly not a scientific poll but.... I thinks going down!!! woohoo!

[gonefromhere]

PUBBY, on 20 July 2012 - 12:07 PM, said:

Scott Greene and many others talking this up will not make a profit from it. How would the county DOT guy make a profit?

What these folks bring to the table is expertise.

Now I know that you've got land and that at least a portion the land you got most probably has increased dramatically in value when roads were improved and access granted. I know this because land was mighty cheap back in 1977 in Paulding and, particularly at its peak, the increased value of land was created by improved access.

I know you won't agree, but it was that public investment in transportation fillip, not your shining intellect that caused the appreciation in value.

And what did you pay for that appreciation in value? Your fuel taxes for one but why should you get the enjoyment of the roads (like everyone else paying fuel taxes) and a windfall appreciation in your property's value?

Even if the rest of your land is not greatly improved by the east Hiram by-pass, the value you did get on the land sold for that project was by definition higher because 278 existed. Again, you are not really responsible because you did nothing to improve that land other than pay your fuel taxes.

Today those who may be down on their luck can still remember the boom days of 2004-2006 when the money was flowing in the real-estate boom. The boom was here because of the transportation infrastructure.

Having looked at the projects, there is no doubt in my mind that they would improve traffic flows in Paulding to Cobb and within the county.

In most cosmic understanding, the concept that time equals money has validity. Projects, like the Bus 6 traffic control computers anticipated as part of the TSPLOST, could save everyone who travels that road, even a little, hours over the course of ten years. For those who use it regularly, the savings could be a week and even if you didn't count your time as money, the money saved from the car not idling for a week would payback that one-percent on sales.

You're not seeing the value because you don't want to see the value.

You're approaching it from your innate conservatism which, whether you want to recognize it or not, is noted for its interest in doing nothing, changing nothing. That resistance to change which is expressed as a resistance to progress.

Even though, feelip, the whole thing of improving infrastructure has made your life better, your pocket fuller and your commutes safer.

pubby

Nothing like talking down your innate Liberal nose to someone....Geeeez!!! Never miss an opportunity to make it a party issue....

[Johnny Jacobs]

gonefromhere, on 20 July 2012 - 12:41 PM, said:

Nothing like talking down your innate Liberal nose to someone....Geeeez!!! Never miss an opportunity to make it a party issue....

Just maybe it is a party issue...a Party of NO issue.

[gonefromhere]

Johnny Jacobs, on 20 July 2012 - 12:45 PM, said:

Just maybe it is a party issue...a Party of NO issue.

And another Liberal heard from....

[LPPT]

WHITEY, on 20 July 2012 - 12:28 PM, said:

Pubby What you and LPPT are failing to realize is the fact that many exemptions have been given to large corporations and they will not be required to pay this additional tax, Leaving the entire burden on the middle and lower income citizens to foot the bill for the entire program.
If the legislature saw a need for additional taxes for roads then they should of increased the tax on gasoline/diesel fuel instead of taxing those who rarely use these roads with no exemptions to anyone.
Heath and Braddock voted to give their big campaign donors exemptions from paying this tax and it is doomed to fail no matter how much BS ya'll spread about it.

Those tax breaks amounted to 1-2 percent of the overall fuel tax collected.
Those companies can do more with the millions of dollars it saved them, such as expansion or hiring than DOT can make a significant impact with that money on road projects.

I have no issues with legislators voting for it, after studying it I see that the people not the legislators that worked on this did an excellent job, they had no reason not to vote for it.
The not supporting it and not being truthful about it is the problem.

[feelip]

PUBBY, on 20 July 2012 - 12:07 PM, said:

Scott Greene and many others talking this up will not make a profit from it. How would the county DOT guy make a profit?

What these folks bring to the table is expertise.

Now I know that you've got land and that at least a portion the land you got most probably has increased dramatically in value when roads were improved and access granted. I know this because land was mighty cheap back in 1977 in Paulding and, particularly at its peak, the increased value of land was created by improved access.

I know you won't agree, but it was that public investment in transportation fillip, not your shining intellect that caused the appreciation in value.

And what did you pay for that appreciation in value? Your fuel taxes for one but why should you get the enjoyment of the roads (like everyone else paying fuel taxes) and a windfall appreciation in your property's value?

Even if the rest of your land is not greatly improved by the east Hiram by-pass, the value you did get on the land sold for that project was by definition higher because 278 existed. Again, you are not really responsible because you did nothing to improve that land other than pay your fuel taxes.

Today those who may be down on their luck can still remember the boom days of 2004-2006 when the money was flowing in the real-estate boom. The boom was here because of the transportation infrastructure.

Having looked at the projects, there is no doubt in my mind that they would improve traffic flows in Paulding to Cobb and within the county.

In most cosmic understanding, the concept that time equals money has validity. Projects, like the Bus 6 traffic control computers anticipated as part of the TSPLOST, could save everyone who travels that road, even a little, hours over the course of ten years. For those who use it regularly, the savings could be a week and even if you didn't count your time as money, the money saved from the car not idling for a week would payback that one-percent on sales.

You're not seeing the value because you don't want to see the value.

You're approaching it from your innate conservatism which, whether you want to recognize it or not, is noted for its interest in doing nothing, changing nothing. That resistance to change which is expressed as a resistance to progress.

Even though, feelip, the whole thing of improving infrastructure has made your life better, your pocket fuller and your commutes safer.

pubby

You obviously have me confused with someone else. I don't own any property impacted by that road. But if you can find a deed with my name on it I will gladly take it.

[FreeBird]

okay - I'll bite - whose brother-in-law does have property affected?

[gonefromhere]

FreeBird, on 20 July 2012 - 01:09 PM, said:

okay - I'll bite - whose brother-in-law does have property affected?

[Lady Raider]

no and no and still no

[PUBBY]

WHITEY, on 20 July 2012 - 12:28 PM, said:

Pubby What you and LPPT are failing to realize is the fact that many exemptions have been given to large corporations and they will not be required to pay this additional tax, Leaving the entire burden on the middle and lower income citizens to foot the bill for the entire program.
If the legislature saw a need for additional taxes for roads then they should of increased the tax on gasoline/diesel fuel instead of taxing those who rarely use these roads with no exemptions to anyone.
Heath and Braddock voted to give their big campaign donors exemptions from paying this tax and it is doomed to fail no matter how much BS ya'll spread about it.

I'm taking that into consideration and yes, it sucks.

I lay the blame on that squarely on the general assembly and the neanderthals and other right wing trolls that populate the place playing politics.

Do you think they'll reform campaign finance or lobbyist gifting? No.

Given that favors are largely the currency when the General Assembly is in session, I'm actually amazed that this crew of two-faced monkeys was able to do as good a job on structuring the legislation as they did - flaws the type you highlight being an example.

My point is that short of giving them all the boot ... and you have to know we're trying ... progress in general is not going to wait for them to get their house in order.

We, you and I and the other folks who feel that progress is important, sometimes have to compromise to make things happen.

These folks did when they passed the legislation that they didn't want to pass because they are at their core anti-progress ... and that's why you have folks like Heath out here doing their best to sabotage the vote.

Why?

Well, for starters, the regional nature of the program that shoved the decision making down to the county and city level essentially cut them out of the decisions on which projects would be funded. They didn't get their dinners and gifts for pushing this or that project (like they do when they play the role of lobbyists at the DOT ... and of course the DOT has been pretty much immune from their shenanigans as well for years and that's why this program was passed - as punishment to the DOT for not letting them milk the lobbyists for favors.

The landscape down under the gold dome is really not nice. In short, yes, it sucks.

But other than voting down Paulette and Heath and hoping their replacements will be more effective leaders and waiting, waiting, waiting to see when and if the replacements can improve things is not a viable strategy.

Whether it the job for your son, a quick trip to the hospital for your daughter or your wife avoiding an accident because improved roads are safer just can't wait for the general assembly to reform itself. That's why I'm voting for the TSPLOST.

pubby

feelip, on 20 July 2012 - 01:07 PM, said:

You obviously have me confused with someone else. I don't own any property impacted by that road. But if you can find a deed with my name on it I will gladly take it.

I thought you were the one complaining about old family land being taken when the east (not the Bill Carruth Parkway side) Hiram Parkway was being built. If not, my apologies.

pubby