[NewsJunky]

The only binding question is the T-SPLOST question.



GENERAL PRIMARY ELECTION JULY 31, 2012 Republican Party Ballot Questions

(1) Should Georgia have casino gambling with funds going to education? YES
NO

(2) Do you support ending the current practice of unlimited gifts from lobbyists to state legislators by imposing a $100 cap on such gifts? YES
NO

(3) Should active duty military personnel who are under the age of 21 be allowed to obtain a Georgia weapons license? YES
NO

(4) Should citizens who wish to vote in a primary election be required to register by their political party affiliation at least thirty (30) days prior to such primary election? YES
NO

(5) Should the Constitution of Georgia be amended so as to provide that the paramount right to life is vested in each innocent human being from his or her earliest biological beginning without regard to age, race, sex, health, function,or condition of dependency? YES
NO

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SPECIAL ELECTION
Referendum 1
Northwest Georgia District
T-SPLOST

Provides for local transportation projects to create jobs, improve roads and safety with citizen oversight.
Shall Paulding County's transportation system and the transportation network in this region and the state be improved by providing for a 1 percent special district transportation sales and use tax for the purpose of transportation projects and programs for a period of ten years?
YES
NO

[lowrider]

Thanks for the ballot.

I see the Republicans got the aboortzion question on the ballot.

[NewsJunky]

lowrider, on 02 July 2012 - 12:05 PM, said:

Thanks for the ballot.

I see the Republicans got the aboortzion question on the ballot.

It is non binding. It is to find out how the people feel about it.

[MrsB]

NJ, I have to change my address. It's something I keep forgetting to do... Is it too late? Will MrB and I miss the election?

[NewsJunky]

MrsB, on 02 July 2012 - 12:20 PM, said:

NJ, I have to change my address. It's something I keep forgetting to do... Is it too late? Will MrB and I miss the election?

You can vote 1 time at your old polling place. You do need to change it though. Go here to get the info on where you are registered to vote. http://mvp.sos.state.ga.us/

[lowrider]

NewsJunky, on 02 July 2012 - 12:07 PM, said:

It is non binding. It is to find out how the people feel about it.

Thanks again!

[Sheltie Mom]

Would you happen to know what's the last date you can send in application for absentee voting for Presidential election?

[feelip]

These TSPLOST commercials and even the wording on the ballot are sneaky.

[NewsJunky]

Sheltie Mom, on 02 July 2012 - 12:35 PM, said:

Would you happen to know what's the last date you can send in application for absentee voting for Presidential election?

No but I do know you have until October something to register to vote in that one. Go here and see if it gives you that info. http://mvp.sos.state.ga.us/

feelip, on 02 July 2012 - 12:42 PM, said:

These TSPLOST commercials and even the wording on the ballot are sneaky.

I agree!

[Sheltie Mom]

NewsJunky, on 02 July 2012 - 12:49 PM, said:

No but I do know you have until October something to register to vote in that one. Go here ahd see if it gives you that info. http://mvp.sos.state.ga.us/



I agree!

Thanks!

[NewsJunky]

lowrider, on 02 July 2012 - 12:32 PM, said:

Thanks again!

Welcome! I hope it is useful.

[lowrider]

feelip, on 02 July 2012 - 12:42 PM, said:

These TSPLOST commercials and even the wording on the ballot are sneaky.

They always make the wording confusing so the ordinary voter can't understan what his "yes and "no" really mean.

I read the amendments early so that when I go to vote my "NO" really didn't mean "YES" and it pisses me off because these LAWMAKERS DO IT ON PURPOSE.

[MrsB]

Thanks, NJ!!!

[gog8tors]

We'll end up with the splost simply b/c of the way it's worded.

[The Postman]

lowrider, on 02 July 2012 - 01:41 PM, said:

They always make the wording confusing so the ordinary voter can't understan what his "yes and "no" really mean.

I read the amendments early so that when I go to vote my "NO" really didn't mean "YES" and it pisses me off because these LAWMAKERS DO IT ON PURPOSE.

Georgia representatives "F" Integrity does that, you know, but that's just a biased hit job on them!

[cobb transplant]

feelip, on 02 July 2012 - 12:42 PM, said:

These TSPLOST commercials and even the wording on the ballot are sneaky.

your footer made me laugh!

[LKicklight]

is there a site to visit that has a sample ballot for the July 31st election?? We need one to look over prior to actually voting..
thanks

[lowrider]

LKicklight, on 11 July 2012 - 10:13 AM, said:

is there a site to visit that has a sample ballot for the July 31st election?? We need one to look over prior to actually voting..
thanks

This site will take you to your district..........

Far West posted it a couple of days ago and I found it. Put in your information and you will see what will be on YOUR ballot.



HERE

[NewsJunky]

lowrider, on 11 July 2012 - 10:17 AM, said:

This site will take you to your district..........

Far West posted it a couple of days ago and I found it. Put in your information and you will see what will be on YOUR ballot.



HERE

I posted it in a post in this thread. Post #5.

[lowrider]

NewsJunky, on 11 July 2012 - 10:38 AM, said:

I posted it in a post in this thread.

Sorry, I didn't see it. I just remembered someone posting a couple of days ago and it helped me see what was on the ballot.

Thanks!

[zoocrew]

NewsJunky, on 02 July 2012 - 12:07 PM, said:

It is non binding. It is to find out how the people feel about it.

And since it it's legal and has been for almost 40 years, why even waste the time, money and energy? It's just the politicians playing on our emotions to get votes. Disgusting.

[Lady Raider]

lowrider, on 11 July 2012 - 10:17 AM, said:

This site will take you to your district..........

Far West posted it a couple of days ago and I found it. Put in your information and you will see what will be on YOUR ballot.



HERE

Thanks

[Blondiega1]

zoocrew, on 11 July 2012 - 01:51 PM, said:

And since it it's legal and has been for almost 40 years, why even waste the time, money and energy? It's just the politicians playing on our emotions to get votes. Disgusting.

dang...........now I'm agreeing with Zoo.

[Garden Girl]

I like how it is written on the ballot about gambling and it going to education. They fooled me back in my early 20's but I won't be fooled again. Gambling in GA.should be illegal especially when you have parents going in and buying cigs, lottery tickets and a gallon of milk and they do not have enough money and they put the milk back. In my 20's I did not realize that people were so irresponsible. Since the lottery came I realize that no matter what the state claims to do "For the Children/Education" the bottom line is there is alot of children that lose with the lottery.One day the children will Learn what they live and live what they learn from the parents that play.

[NewsJunky]

Garden Girl, on 11 July 2012 - 06:50 PM, said:

I like how it is written on the ballot about gambling and it going to education. They fooled me back in my early 20's but I won't be fooled again. Gambling in GA.should be illegal especially when you have parents going in and buying cigs, lottery tickets and a gallon of milk and they do not have enough money and they put the milk back. In my 20's I did not realize that people were so irresponsible. Since the lottery came I realize that no matter what the state claims to do "For the Children/Education" the bottom line is there is alot of children that lose with the lottery.One day the children will Learn what they live and live what they learn from the parents that play.

Those same parents will spend it on something else anyway. They will always do it.

[zoocrew]

Garden Girl, on 11 July 2012 - 06:50 PM, said:

I like how it is written on the ballot about gambling and it going to education. They fooled me back in my early 20's but I won't be fooled again. Gambling in GA.should be illegal especially when you have parental going in and buying cigs, lottery tickets and a gallon of milk and they do not have enough money and they put the milk back. In my 20's I did not realize that people were so irresponsible. Since the lottery came I realize that no matter what the state claims to do "For the Children/Education" the bottom line is there is alot of children that lose with the lottery.One day the children will Learn what they live and live what they learn from the parents that play.

The lottery funds the educational opportunities for those children to get out of the cycle their parents are in. Without HOPE, those kids have zero chance of breaking that cycle and will always bee in poverty. Education is the key and gateway to a better life. We either pay to educate now or we pay for welfare and prisons later.

[PUBBY]

I personally accept the funding of HOPE and early childhood education with lottery money. That was because the programs funded by the lottery were non-existent prior to the passage of the lottery.

That said, I don't agree with the state earmarking casino gambling revenues to fund the state's general education budget. The idea of funding education with a 'voluntary' tax is to me a shirking of responsibility.

pubby

[zoocrew]

PUBBY, on 11 July 2012 - 11:32 PM, said:

I personally accept the funding of HOPE and early childhood education with lottery money. That was because the programs funded by the lottery were non-existent prior to the passage of the lottery.

That said, I don't agree with the state earmarking casino gambling revenues to fund the state's general education budget. The idea of funding education with a 'voluntary' tax is to me a shirking of responsibility.

pubby

I don't want casino gambling either. That is a whole 'nuther animal than the lottery, and the former has fangs and a very bad disposition.

[PUBBY]

zoocrew, on 12 July 2012 - 12:27 AM, said:

I don't want casino gambling either. That is a whole 'nuther animal than the lottery, and the former has fangs and a very bad disposition.

Personally I'm not so far along as to say NO WAY to casino gambling because I haven't studied its fall out enough to decide whether the good could outweigh the bad. (Even it has changed over the years from the mob-backed gambling dens to the more entertaining family experiences)

Bottom line, I would assess my position based on secular judgment of the pros and cons. My religious beliefs would inform me to the point of being skeptical but I would not summarily rule out support for the effort if the preponderance of evidence showed it was just stupid to oppose it either because it was inevitable or even justified given support for the expansion of mental health care.

pubby

[LPPT]

What we need to look at what are average salaries of casino workers, it is Georgia so probably non union, we have to look at the multiplier effect that it has locally.
Will it bring living wage jobs with benefits or minimum wage. Big hotels are beautiful but all that glitters is not gold if they pay min w to most of their employees, the same goes for restaurants. Are the folks that backed Gingrich the one's wanting to bring it in? We need to look closely at this and how it has gone over in the cities they are in already, it has to be apples to apples union -v- non-union.

[gonefromhere]

LPPT, on 12 July 2012 - 09:21 PM, said:

What we need to look at what are average salaries of casino workers, it is Georgia so probably non union, we have to look at the multiplier effect that it has locally.
Will it bring living wage jobs with benefits or minimum wage. Big hotels are beautiful but all that glitters is not gold if they pay min w to most of their employees, the same goes for restaurants. Are the folks that backed Gingrich the one's wanting to bring it in? We need to look closely at this and how it has gone over in the cities they are in already, it has to be apples to apples union -v- non-union.

Seems that way, Nevada is not doing so well!!

"Despite all of its suburban trimmings, North Las Vegas is officially a disaster area.

"After five years of declining property taxes, massive layoffs and questionable spending, leaders of the blue-collar, family-oriented city outside Las Vegas declared a state of emergency, invoking a rarely used state law crafted for unforeseen disasters."

http://www.cnbc.com/...text|&par=yahoo

This post has been edited by gonefromhere: 13 July 2012 - 07:00 AM

[LPPT]

gonefromhere, on 13 July 2012 - 06:46 AM, said:

Seems that way, Nevada is not doing so well!!

"Despite all of its suburban trimmings, North Las Vegas is officially a disaster area.

"After five years of declining property taxes, massive layoffs and questionable spending, leaders of the blue-collar, family-oriented city outside Las Vegas declared a state of emergency, invoking a rarely used state law crafted for unforeseen disasters."

http://www.cnbc.com/...text|&par=yahoo

Thank you, I have no moral aversion to gambling, but I will out right admit that I think it is a stupid form of entertainment for stupid people.

The paragraph below seems to demonstrate that stupidity is contagious in the proximity of where there is so much of it.

In fact the story is full of stupidity, in that unions won't tighten their belt in a crisis allowing more people to keep their jobs, me generation rears it's ugly head yet again. I suspect though that the cost of living is quite high there and even small pay cuts can push some over the edge.

Another consideration is that prostitution seems to go hand and hand with gambling, because it in itself is a form of gambling. I doubt the need for law enforcement has slowed with the recession.

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Since then, residents have urged City Hall to keep its libraries and recreation centers and sacrifice public safety, which accounts for 66 percent of the city's budget. In all, the city expects to go from 1,000 public safety employees in 2011 to 721 in 2013. The City Council voted Wednesday night to turn its jail services over to the city of Las Vegas in a move expected to save $16 million annually.

The voters need to think long and hard about this from a fiscal point of view, it we vote yes they will come. It looks to me as though it is a break even business model for growth and possibly a deficit for tax payers.

[gonefromhere]

From the AJC This Morning....

"Channel 2 poll: Support for transportation sales tax continues to slip"

"The poll, conducted July 11, found only 33 percent of metro Atlantans support the referendum while 56 percent oppose the measure. Twelve percent remain undecided."

http://blogs.ajc.com...tinues-to-slip/

This post has been edited by gonefromhere: 14 July 2012 - 07:47 AM

[LPPT]

gonefromhere, on 14 July 2012 - 06:17 AM, said:

From the AJC This Morning....

"Channel 2 poll: Support for transportation sales tax continues to slip"

"The poll, conducted July 11, found only 33 percent of metro Atlantans support the referendum while 56 percent oppose the measure. Twelve percent remain undecided."

I talked to someone I trust about this and they confirmed some things I already knew.

I know that a lot people stand on the principal of don't ever tax yourself and that is perfectly fine. I know people have an issue with it being regional and that is fine.
But what everyone needs to understand is that a lot of people that have issues with those 2 things and want to stop it, have also spread a lot of rumors about what it will and will not do. Not a dime of the taxes collected in your region or county are going to pay for a single thing outside of your region. That has been one of the most persistent rumors about this.

Also many believe that their county leaders have decided to tax them for this, not true. The legislature wanted to tax the people of Georgia for road improvement, they ask the local leaders to put it together, they did. Now the legislators refuse to back them up letting local authorities take the heat over it.
Now when they raise your fuel tax the blame will go back local because they support it by making the list they were ask to make.
If they come out in support of this for the reasons I have stated and it passes they will vote them out next round.

I am going to be straight with everyone, if the legislators started this it is because they see the need for this, they are not going to stop, they will improve the roads.

Understand this, they will raise the fuel tax, to make the same amount as this Tsplost they will have to raise the tax per gallon close to .25.

When they do this a portion of that will go to the feds and I am telling all of you the lions share will end up in Atlanta.
The list that all of you are looking at from Marietta and Atlanta regions will be fulfilled in 10 years with your fuel tax.
You had an opportunity to stop that. You have jumped on someone's band wagon.

This chance will never come again.

I suggest that every one attend the meeting Tues. night at the theater and stop listening to rumors.

Fuel taxes punish those of us who work and drive, on top of the fact we already bear the burden of taxes for everything else the government chooses to hand out to those that don't work.

You need to keep in mind that many of the negative rumors you are hearing come from the Atlanta and Marietta crowd, because they are going to get the bulk of the benefits from the fuel tax, they don't have to pay the extra penny and they are not going to if they have any say in it.

You can enjoy your fuel taxes improving I-95.