Oh that is the purpose of the Skittles. I didn't know you could challenge someone that well with a bag of Skittles, feelip!.
He didn't skin his Skittles, he skinned his knuckles according to the autopsy. I'm guessing you and a few others are just playing dumb about this, but you don't have to have an actual weapon to commit an assault. And if you are assaulted (even with fists) it is perfectly legal to use deadly force to stop the assailant (which in this case was Sweet Trayvon).
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He didn't skin his Skittles, he skinned his knuckles according to the autopsy. I'm guessing you and a few others are just playing dumb about this, but you don't have to have an actual weapon to commit an assault. And if you are assaulted (even with fists) it is perfectly legal to use deadly force to stop the assailant (which in this case was Sweet Trayvon).
He didn't skin his Skittles, he skinned his knuckles according to the autopsy. I'm guessing you and a few others are just playing dumb about this, but you don't have to have an actual weapon to commit an assault. And if you are assaulted (even with fists) it is perfectly legal to use deadly force to stop the assailant (which in this case was Sweet Trayvon).
I hope Zimmerman knows better than to come around bothering me while I have a bag of Skittles. If he doesn't he would be learning a lesson.
You, know, feelip, I think Zimmerman is going to learn better than to bring a gun to a Skittle fight.
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I hope Zimmerman knows better than to come around bothering me while I have a bag of Skittles. If he doesn't he would be learning a lesson.
You, know, feelip, I think Zimmerman is going to learn better than to bring a gun to a Skittle fight.
I think this will go a long way towards showing folks that you will no longer be allowed to defend yourself without fear of retaliation / prosecution if enough minorities start yeling and screaming loud enough. He will probably not get a fair criminal trial. It will cost him loads of money. And even if he does win, he will likely be in fear for his life for the rest of his life. Then he will have to face a civil trial, which he WILL loose. Costing him even more money. The evidence will clear him in the crimanal trial and the court will rule against him in the civil trial just like OJ and just like it should. The whole criminal trial is a joke. It was only done to appease the masses. And that in a nutshell is my take on this case. Just because you have the legal right to do something does not mean you should nor that you will not get punished in civil court.
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I just think it takes integrity to carry a gun is an accountable way.
Florida has better Corruption control than Georgia does, and I want show that report card to prove it, but I can.
The state of Georgia handing out gun permits, after seeing their report card on integrity, is a scary deal to me.
I don't want anyone as low in integrity as Georgia's report card shows, anywhere near me with a gun.
This post has been edited by The Postman: 16 May 2012 - 02:17 PM
"The rich alone use imported articles, and on these alone the whole taxes of the General Government are levied. ... Our revenues liberated by the discharge of the public debt, and its surplus applied to canals, roads, schools, etc., the farmer will see his government supported, his children educated, and the face of his country made a paradise by the contributions of the rich alone, without his being called on to spend a cent from his earnings." ~ The Chief Author of our Declaration of Independence
"The rich alone use imported articles, and on these alone the whole taxes of the General Government are levied. ... Our revenues liberated by the discharge of the public debt, and its surplus applied to canals, roads, schools, etc., the farmer will see his government supported, his children educated, and the face of his country made a paradise by the contributions of the rich alone, without his being called on to spend a cent from his earnings." ~ The Chief Author of our Declaration of Independence
Nope... it means the person Martin picked a fight with was carrying a gun and he was not. Rules of COMMON SENSE dictate that when you choose to fight someone you had better be prepared to do battle with them using the deadliest weapon at their disposal. If it is a knife it is a knife fight. A fist, a fist fight. A gun, a gun fight. If they are a pacifist, then it is whatever the heck fight you choose it to be. So if you can fight someone carrying a gun with your hands and win 100% of the time, then you are good with only your hands. If you can not do that then you had better rethink your reasons for picking the fight and your chances of coming out of this in good shape. Really simple to understand when you actually use your brain now isn't it.
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Nope... it means the person Martin picked a fight with was carrying a gun and he was not. Rules of COMMON SENSE dictate that when you choose to fight someone you had better be prepared to do battle with them using the deadliest weapon at their disposal. If it is a knife it is a knife fight. A fist, a fist fight. A gun, a gun fight. If they are a pacifist, then it is whatever the heck fight you choose it to be. So if you can fight someone carrying a gun with your hands and win 100% of the time, then you are good with only your hands. If you can not do that then you had better rethink your reasons for picking the fight and your chances of coming out of this in good shape. Really simple to understand when you actually use your brain now isn't it.
Nobody had taught the kid the rules, Mr.Dis! Even if he had brought his gun it would be illegal. You can't get a license to carry a gun at 17 years old.
What are you saying. Should the kid have killed Zimmerman if he indeed had him down? Myself, I would have taken Zimmerman's gun away from him if I could reach it, and if not I would have gone with him where ever he wanted me to go. .
"The rich alone use imported articles, and on these alone the whole taxes of the General Government are levied. ... Our revenues liberated by the discharge of the public debt, and its surplus applied to canals, roads, schools, etc., the farmer will see his government supported, his children educated, and the face of his country made a paradise by the contributions of the rich alone, without his being called on to spend a cent from his earnings." ~ The Chief Author of our Declaration of Independence
I think this will go a long way towards showing folks that you will no longer be allowed to defend yourself without fear of retaliation / prosecution if enough minorities start yeling and screaming loud enough. He will probably not get a fair criminal trial. It will cost him loads of money. And even if he does win, he will likely be in fear for his life for the rest of his life. Then he will have to face a civil trial, which he WILL loose. Costing him even more money. The evidence will clear him in the crimanal trial and the court will rule against him in the civil trial just like OJ and just like it should. The whole criminal trial is a joke. It was only done to appease the masses. And that in a nutshell is my take on this case. Just because you have the legal right to do something does not mean you should nor that you will not get punished in civil court.
a terrible thing.....zimmerman will have to pay bunch of money the lawyers for the criminal trail (but didn't i see on tv that he was wired a bunch, in excess of 6 figures, of money....seems like i did, but i am too lazy to look for a link right now)....and may face a civil judgement for wrongful death....terrible thing
but on the other hand zimmerman is still alive..................
unlike the kid he murdered for being in the wrong place, at the the wrong time, by a pos wannbe bad a** who was told by 911 not to escalate the situation.
one of the parties involved already paid the price (which can't be refunded)
Two thoughts come to mind.
The first is that when I would get into an argument with someone who obviously lacked common sense, my buddy was say, "who's the idiot, the moron who can't understand or the guy arguing with him?".
It helped cut down on my discussions with those who are unable or refuse to use common sense.
The second is a story my grandfather told me.
It happened in ATL back in the 30's. My grandfather woke in the middle of the night to a man stealing one of his chickens. My GF got his .45 and shot the man, called the ATL police and advised them, "I shot a man stealing my chickens, he is laying in the yard moaning, you better come get him".
I asked what LE did, he replied they came and got the man.
I replied; No, I mean what did they do to you?
My GF looked at me like I was crazy and answered; "Do to me? Why would they do anything to me?
The man was stealing our food. I just stopped him."
Times have changed.
For the better?
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Nobody had taught the kid the rules, Mr.Dis! Even if he had brought his gun it would be illegal. You can't get a license to carry a gun at 17 years old.
What are you saying. Should the kid have killed Zimmerman if he indeed had him down? Myself, I would have taken Zimmerman's gun away from him if I could reach it, and if not I would have gone with him where ever he wanted me to go. .
You are absolutely right Postman. You just can't teach common sense. You are either born with it or not. The less you have the shorter your life can become (ie stepping out in front of buses is hazzardous to your health).
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Two thoughts come to mind.
The first is that when I would get into an argument with someone who obviously lacked common sense, my buddy was say, "who's the idiot, the moron who can't understand or the guy arguing with him?".
It helped cut down on my discussions with those who are unable or refuse to use common sense.
The second is a story my grandfather told me.
It happened in ATL back in the 30's. My grandfather woke in the middle of the night to a man stealing one of his chickens. My GF got his .45 and shot the man, called the ATL police and advised them, "I shot a man stealing my chickens, he is laying in the yard moaning, you better come get him".
I asked what LE did, he replied they came and got the man.
I replied; No, I mean what did they do to you?
My GF looked at me like I was crazy and answered; "Do to me? Why would they do anything to me?
The man was stealing our food. I just stopped him."
Times have changed.
For the better?
That was before the days of civil entitlements.
The Postman, on 16 May 2012 - 02:23 PM, said:
Nobody had taught the kid the rules, Mr.Dis! Even if he had brought his gun it would be illegal. You can't get a license to carry a gun at 17 years old.
What are you saying. Should the kid have killed Zimmerman if he indeed had him down? Myself, I would have taken Zimmerman's gun away from him if I could reach it, and if not I would have gone with him where ever he wanted me to go. .
It's called letting your mouth write a check your ass can't cash. In this case the insufficient funds fee was a biatch.
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It's called letting your mouth write a check your ass can't cash. In this case the insufficient funds fee was a biatch.
I think that is about what Zimmerman has done, feelip, wrote a check with his Cadillac notions, that his doodle bug a$$ cannot cash. And,. the insufficient fund fees are going to be a bitch.
"The rich alone use imported articles, and on these alone the whole taxes of the General Government are levied. ... Our revenues liberated by the discharge of the public debt, and its surplus applied to canals, roads, schools, etc., the farmer will see his government supported, his children educated, and the face of his country made a paradise by the contributions of the rich alone, without his being called on to spend a cent from his earnings." ~ The Chief Author of our Declaration of Independence
a terrible thing.....zimmerman will have to pay bunch of money the lawyers for the criminal trail (but didn't i see on tv that he was wired a bunch, in excess of 6 figures, of money....seems like i did, but i am too lazy to look for a link right now)....and may face a civil judgement for wrongful death....terrible thing
but on the other hand zimmerman is still alive..................
unlike the kid he murdered for being in the wrong place, at the the wrong time, by a pos wannbe bad a** who was told by 911 not to escalate the situation.
one of the parties involved already paid the price (which can't be refunded)
Sounds like Martin made a poor choice and paid a heavy price for it. Kind of like slapping a sleeping sasquatch. He gets pissed off and chases you to a cliff that you promptly jump off and die. Yup... it was all his fault for forcing you to jump off that cliff.
BTW
Did you say Zimmerman was uninjured or not?
Are you prepared to say now that Zimmerman sustained injuries due to being assaulted by Martin?
And as a side note here. If this case was only about Martin beating the crap out of Zimmerman, I would be squarely in Martin's corner. The only caviate is that Martin still needed to understand that folks can defend themselves. Just because you get beat down for being stupid does not mean you give up your rights to self defense.
Further you have provided absolutely nothing but your own personal beliefs as to what happened. I have provided many facts and other evidence that when taken as a whole support my theorey. All you got is "I believe". Guess what I do not care what you believe and neither does the court. Show me something that goes against what I present that does not begin with "I believe", is based off of empiercal quantitative and factual data and I will consider it and be quite impressed at the same time. Sadly... you got nutin.
stradial, on 16 May 2012 - 02:45 PM, said:
Two thoughts come to mind.
The first is that when I would get into an argument with someone who obviously lacked common sense, my buddy was say, "who's the idiot, the moron who can't understand or the guy arguing with him?".
It helped cut down on my discussions with those who are unable or refuse to use common sense.
The second is a story my grandfather told me.
It happened in ATL back in the 30's. My grandfather woke in the middle of the night to a man stealing one of his chickens. My GF got his .45 and shot the man, called the ATL police and advised them, "I shot a man stealing my chickens, he is laying in the yard moaning, you better come get him".
I asked what LE did, he replied they came and got the man.
I replied; No, I mean what did they do to you?
My GF looked at me like I was crazy and answered; "Do to me? Why would they do anything to me?
The man was stealing our food. I just stopped him."
Times have changed.
For the better?
Ok... point taken and I got more work to do anyway.
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Sounds like Martin made a poor choice and paid a heavy price for it. Kind of like slapping a sleeping sasquatch. He gets pissed off and chases you to a cliff that you promptly jump off and die. Yup... it was all is fault for forcing you to jump off that cliff.
BTW
Did you say Zimmerman was uninjured or not?
Are you prepared to say now that Zimmerman sustained injuries due to being assaulted by Martin?
And as a side note here. If this case was only about Martin beating the crap out of Zimmerman, I would be squarely in Martin's corner. The only caviate is that Martin still needed to understand that folks can defend themselves. Just because you get beat down for being stupid does not mean you give up your rights to self defense.
Further you have provided absolutely nothing but your own personal beliefs as to what happened. I have provided many facts and other evidence that when taken as a whole support my theorey. All you got is "I believe". Guess what I do not care what you believe and neither does the court. Show me something that goes against what I present that does not begin with "I believe", is based off of empiercal quantitative and factual data and I will consider it and be quite impressed at the same time. Sadly... you got nutin.
I have never said anything about the Zimmerman case, period.
I do not know enough facts to make a call.
However, based on the few "facts" I do know, i do have an opionon.
But I will not share it here.
It was my understanding that Zimmerman had injuries from the 1st time i heard of this case, so
I have never thought otherwise.
"If you want any one thing too badly, it's likely to turn out to be a disappointment."
"The only healthy way to live life is to learn to like all the little everyday things, like a sip of good whiskey in the evening, a soft bed, a glass of buttermilk, or a feisty gentleman like myself."
I have never said anything about the Zimmerman case, period.
I do not know enough facts to make a call.
However, based on the few "facts" I do know, i do have an opionon.
But I will not share it here.
It was my understanding that Zimmerman had injuries from the 1st time i heard of this case, so
I have never thought otherwise.
Sorry you got the post in transition but with the disclaimer. That reply was meant for another not you.
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Sorry you got the post in transition but with the disclaimer. That reply was meant for another not you.
Understood.
"If you want any one thing too badly, it's likely to turn out to be a disappointment."
"The only healthy way to live life is to learn to like all the little everyday things, like a sip of good whiskey in the evening, a soft bed, a glass of buttermilk, or a feisty gentleman like myself."
Sounds like Martin made a poor choice and paid a heavy price for it. Kind of like slapping a sleeping sasquatch. He gets pissed off and chases you to a cliff that you promptly jump off and die. Yup... it was all his fault for forcing you to jump off that cliff.
BTW
Did you say Zimmerman was uninjured or not?
Are you prepared to say now that Zimmerman sustained injuries due to being assaulted by Martin?
And as a side note here. If this case was only about Martin beating the crap out of Zimmerman, I would be squarely in Martin's corner. The only caviate is that Martin still needed to understand that folks can defend themselves. Just because you get beat down for being stupid does not mean you give up your rights to self defense.
Further you have provided absolutely nothing but your own personal beliefs as to what happened. I have provided many facts and other evidence that when taken as a whole support my theorey. All you got is "I believe". Guess what I do not care what you believe and neither does the court. Show me something that goes against what I present that does not begin with "I believe", is based off of empiercal quantitative and factual data and I will consider it and be quite impressed at the same time. Sadly... you got nutin.
Ok... point taken and I got more work to do anyway.
When I die, Mr.Dis., I hope it's for as good a cause as that kid died for. Zimmerman will suffer much longer than Martin did, but Martin's life has already served to create more integrity in gun laws. I believe Zimmerman is also going to realize that his gun was not worth the torment it will have caused him before this is over.
I have certainly started looking into gun ethics in an attempt to decide what I am going to do. It may cause me to have to start carrying a gun, myself. I keep one in my pick-up truck, but now I'm thinking that my 10mm Glock in a shoulder holster might be a better choice.
This post has been edited by The Postman: 16 May 2012 - 03:19 PM
"The rich alone use imported articles, and on these alone the whole taxes of the General Government are levied. ... Our revenues liberated by the discharge of the public debt, and its surplus applied to canals, roads, schools, etc., the farmer will see his government supported, his children educated, and the face of his country made a paradise by the contributions of the rich alone, without his being called on to spend a cent from his earnings." ~ The Chief Author of our Declaration of Independence
unlike the kid he murdered for being in the wrong place, at the the wrong time, by a pos wannbe bad a** who was told by 911 not to escalate the situation.
I think the jury is still out on this one or it should be. Unless you were there you don't know. It will be interesting to see how the trial comes out.
Sounds like Martin made a poor choice and paid a heavy price for it. Kind of like slapping a sleeping sasquatch. He gets pissed off and chases you to a cliff that you promptly jump off and die. Yup... it was all his fault for forcing you to jump off that cliff.
BTW
Did you say Zimmerman was uninjured or not?
Are you prepared to say now that Zimmerman sustained injuries due to being assaulted by Martin?
if zimmerman would have stayed in his car, like instructed by law enforcement, none of this would have happened.....period.
if martin could be accused of any crime, i might have a different view.....but what crime was he accused of........nothing.
and those are not "i believe" as you claim....just the facts
if zimmerman would have stayed in his car, like instructed by law enforcement, none of this would have happened.....period.
if martin could be accused of any crime, i might have a different view.....but what crime was he accused of........nothing.
and those are not "i believe" as you claim....just the facts
Not quite. If you listen to the tapes Zimmerman was out of his vehicle and walking while talking to the dispatcher. You can hear him breathing hard from the walk. He was not in his car. Lots of crime in the neighborhood recently and he was doing what he had signed on to do and that was to "Watch".
I'm very curious to see what happens with this case. It seems like arguments can be made on both sides and there are always three sides to every case: yours, mine, and the truth. Hopefully the jury will be able to make an educated decision about this case with the information we're not privy to.
Not quite. If you listen to the tapes Zimmerman was out of his vehicle and walking while talking to the dispatcher. You can hear him breathing hard from the walk. He was not in his car. Lots of crime in the neighborhood recently and he was doing what he had signed on to do and that was to "Watch".
he was doing what he had signed on to do and that was to "Watch"
watch......does that mean confront. attack and kill?
i must need a new dictionary.
if he would have simply gone back to his car, like the 911 dispatcher told him to do, we would not be discussing this
if zimmerman would have stayed in his car, like instructed by law enforcement, none of this would have happened.....period.
if martin could be accused of any crime, i might have a different view.....but what crime was he accused of........nothing.
and those are not "i believe" as you claim....just the facts
Were you there?? Did you witness this event?? If not, you don't have any "FACTS". Could you share your "FACT" that Mr. Zimmerman "Was instructed to stay in his vehicle".
justme2, on 16 May 2012 - 03:50 PM, said:
he was doing what he had signed on to do and that was to "Watch"
watch......does that mean confront. attack and kill?
i must need a new dictionary.
if he would have simply gone back to his car, like the 911 dispatcher told him to do, we would not be discussing this
Were you there?? Did you witness this event?? If not, you don't have any "FACTS". Could you share your "FACT" that Mr. Zimmerman "Was instructed to stay in his vehicle".
listen to the 911 tapes....
at approximately 2:30 on the tape the dispatcher asks if he is following him, zimmerman answers yes, and the dispatcher says "you don'lt need to do that":
my bad for saying he was instructed to stay in his vehicle
at approximately 2:30 on the tape the dispatcher asks if he is following him, zimmerman answers yes, and the dispatcher says "you don'lt need to do that":
my bad for saying he was instructed to stay in his vehicle
regardless, a teenager is dead....for no reason
I think it is a stretch to say "Zimmerman was instructed to go back to his truck."
What you need to understand is where the line of legality was crossed and by whom it was crossed. As far as I can see Mr. Zimmerman never broke a law.
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And this article trumps everything in that article that you posted about the "girlfriend"... Link
I love how there is so much out there that contradicts what everyone "thinks" they know happened for sure to the point they are dead set on their opinions (arguing either side).
do you want me to quote websters on what the word watch means? seriously?
by all definitions (maybe you can find one in some non standard dictionary) watch doesn't mean execute by most standards.
but you and mr dis have already made up your minds.....it doesn't really matter what the facts are..... a somewhat white guy killed a black kid for no valid reason....it has to be okay in some way.....it has been done for years and gotten away with in the south....no reason to change thing now, right?
And this article trumps everything in that article that you posted about the "girlfriend"... Link
I love how there is so much out there that contradicts what everyone "thinks" they know happened for sure to the point they are dead set on their opinions (arguing either side).
another great, valid, non biased news source.......without the page 3 girls
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do you want me to quote websters on what the word watch means? seriously?
by all definitions (maybe you can find one in some non standard dictionary) watch doesn't mean execute by most standards.
but you and mr dis have already made up your minds.....it doesn't really matter what the facts are..... a somewhat white guy killed a black kid for no valid reason....it has to be okay in some way.....it has been done for years and gotten away with in the south....no reason to change thing now, right?
whatever.......
Show me the "FACTS"......I'm not the one that called mr. Zimmerman a killer, that he murdered Martin. It appears that you have found Mr. Zimmerman guilty. I can't say if he is or is not, I wasn't there. How do you know Mr. Zimmerman didn't have a valid reason, I sure don't.
Show me the "FACTS"......I'm not the one that called mr. Zimmerman a killer, that he murdered Martin. It appears that you have found Mr. Zimmerman guilty. I can't say if he is or is not, I wasn't there. How do you know Mr. Zimmerman didn't have a valid reason, I sure don't.
martin was not committing any crime.......zimmerman has admitted that it was his gun, and he pulled the trigger...seems pretty simple to me
And this article trumps everything in that article that you posted about the "girlfriend"... Link
I love how there is so much out there that contradicts what everyone "thinks" they know happened for sure to the point they are dead set on their opinions (arguing either side).
I think Zimmerman was in pursuit without a warrant to pursue anyone. If he had a reason to believe that delay would endanger his life, or someone else's life, a hot pursuit to keep an alleged perpetrator from escaping might have been warranted, but Zimmerman was not a police officer. He had no warrant, and no reason to believe the kid was going to endanger his or anyone else's life.
Zimmerman said the kid was running away. So his life or nobody else's was in danger. After he pursued, and pushed him, then his life may have been in danger, but how? If the kid wrestled with Zimmerman, there was no attempt to kill him.
Anyway there is about to be a lot more evidence released to the public, according to NightLine news.
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I think Zimmerman was in pursuit without a warrant to pursue anyone. If he had a reason to believe that delay would endanger his life, or someone else's life, a hot pursuit to keep an alleged perpetrator from escaping might have been warranted, but Zimmerman was not a police officer. He had no warrant, and no reason to believe the kid was going to endanger his or anyone else's life.
Zimmerman said the kid was running away. So his life or nobody else's was in danger. After he pursued, and pushed him, then his life may have been in danger, but how? If the kid wrestled with Zimmerman, there was no attempt to kill him.
Anyway there is about to be a lot more evidence released to the public, according to NightLine news.
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Since no one that posts on this board was there then all of this is speculation. There are so many twisted and turned versions of what happened that night that I think we need to wait for the trial to see what actually happened.
This is the thing I can't get past. Did he have to shoot to kill? Was he that afraid? He had the gun and the kid was not armed. That much is clear.
This kid, who was a son, brother and family member is D E A D. Did he deserve that? When he was unarmed? Does a reasonable, thinking, grown man shoot to kill an unarmed kid?
That is what my question is.
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The kid was defending himself, after Zimmerman pushed him. According to the kids girlfriend, who was on the phone with him, the kid was pushed causing his phone to go dead.
"The rich alone use imported articles, and on these alone the whole taxes of the General Government are levied. ... Our revenues liberated by the discharge of the public debt, and its surplus applied to canals, roads, schools, etc., the farmer will see his government supported, his children educated, and the face of his country made a paradise by the contributions of the rich alone, without his being called on to spend a cent from his earnings." ~ The Chief Author of our Declaration of Independence
Since no one that posts on this board was there then all of this is speculation. There are so many twisted and turned versions of what happened that night that I think we need to wait for the trial to see what actually happened.
This is the thing I can't get past. Did he have to shoot to kill? Was he that afraid? He had the gun and the kid was not armed. That much is clear.
This kid, who was a son, brother and family member is D E A D. Did he deserve that? When he was unarmed? Does a reasonable, thinking, grown man shoot to kill an unarmed kid?
That is what my question is.
YES! When the "kid" is 6 feet tall and 175 pounds and he is punching you in the face, beating your head against the sidewalk. You know if he knocks you out he will likely kill you. Damn right I'm going to try to blow him in half.
Maybe poker's just not your game Ike. I know! Let's have a spelling contest!
YES! When the "kid" is 6 feet tall and 175 pounds and he is punching you in the face, beating your head against the sidewalk. You know if he knocks you out he will likely kill you. Damn right I'm going to try to blow him in half.
Like I said, does a reasonable, thinking, grown man shoot to kill when he could have shot him in the arm or in the leg to get him off of him, if in fact it went down like that. Do you really think, at this point, that he is glad he killed him? My guess is that he is not. My guess is that he wished he had called the cops and stayed in his house that night.
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The Postman, on 16 May 2012 - 01:03 PM, said:
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