[Happy Wife And Mom]

You can watch live here http://www.wftv.com/...ideo-wftv/vzFm/

I wonder why his Dad is testifying over the phone....

[gonefromhere]

Did you se this? Hmmmmm........ Watch the news clip, interesting.

"Warning Graphic Photo: Possible New Evidence Shows George Zimmerman's Bloodied Head"

http://gma.yahoo.com...topstories.html

[Happy Wife And Mom]

My son hit his head and needed 3 stitches last year. It looked like a slaughterhouse. It is amazing how much your head will bleed.

[Starr & Dru's Nana]

Yep, you definitely get something like that from FOLLOWING someone.

gonefromhere, on 20 April 2012 - 09:23 AM, said:

Did you se this? Hmmmmm........ Watch the news clip, interesting.

"Warning Graphic Photo: Possible New Evidence Shows George Zimmerman's Bloodied Head"

http://gma.yahoo.com...topstories.html

[gonefromhere]

Starr & Dru, on 20 April 2012 - 09:42 AM, said:

Yep, you definitely get something like that from FOLLOWING someone.

I guess it depends on how you LOOK at things...

[Starr & Dru's Nana]

Well, the word "following" means behind. You generally don't get injured on the back side of your body from being behind someone. To be injured by someone else to the back side of your body, they would have to be IN FRONT OF YOU with you between them and another object or person or behind you. Both pretty much rule out that HE was BEHIND Trayvon when he fired. Well, that and the fact that Trayvon was shot in the abdomen and not the upper chest or back.

gonefromhere, on 20 April 2012 - 09:52 AM, said:

I guess it depends on how you LOOK at things...

[gonefromhere]

Starr & Dru, on 20 April 2012 - 10:08 AM, said:

Well, the word "following" means behind. You generally don't get injured on the back side of your body from being behind someone. To be injured by someone else to the back side of your body, they would have to be IN FRONT OF YOU with you between them and another object or person or behind you. Both pretty much rule out that HE was BEHIND Trayvon when he fired. Well, that and the fact that Trayvon was shot in the abdomen and not the upper chest or back.

True, however, you do get injuries to the back of your head if someone is on top of you pounding your head into the concrete. I wasn't there, just posting the info, also, Last I checked it wasn't against the law to follow someone, but is against the law to jump someone and beat the chit out of them, but justice has already been served on that one, his azz is dead......

[Starr & Dru's Nana]

That's what I've been saying!!!

gonefromhere, on 20 April 2012 - 10:23 AM, said:

True, however, you do get injuries to the back of your head if someone is on top of you pounding your head into the concrete. I wasn't there, just posting the info, also, Last I checked it wasn't against the law to follow someone, but is against the law to jump someone and beat the chit out of them, but justice has already been served on that one, his azz is dead......

[ca2ga]

$150K set for bail? Doesn't bode well for the prosecutions case if they allowed it be set that low. Pretty much confirms what everyone is saying that the case against Zimmerman is weak sauce.

[Starr & Dru's Nana]

surely I am not the only one who felt they arrested Zimmerman to stop the complete and total destruction of their town by protesters.

ca2ga, on 20 April 2012 - 10:36 AM, said:

$150K set for bail? Doesn't bode well for the prosecutions case if they allowed it be set that low. Pretty much confirms what everyone is saying that the case against Zimmerman is weak sauce.

[Happy Wife And Mom]

What was up with his apology to Martin's family?

[ca2ga]

Starr & Dru, on 20 April 2012 - 10:43 AM, said:

surely I am not the only one who felt they arrested Zimmerman to stop the complete and total destruction of their town by protesters.

Yep basically to contain a situation that could explode. Buys them time to drag it out, calm nerves and let isiots and race baiters to move onto another faux-controversy.

[Mr.Dis]

Happy Wife And Mom, on 20 April 2012 - 10:45 AM, said:

What was up with his apology to Martin's family?

Probably the same as the letter I got from the family of the man that shot me. It was to express sorrow over what happened. In my case it made me feel better knowing the man's family did not hold what happened to their son against me.

[Happy Wife And Mom]

Mr.Dis, on 20 April 2012 - 10:58 AM, said:

Probably the same as the letter I got from the family of the man that shot me. It was to express sorrow over what happened. In my case it made me feel better knowing the man's family did not hold what happened to their son against me.

I can understand feeling bad, I can understand wanting to apologize. I just don't understand the words he used.

[Mr.Dis]

Happy Wife And Mom, on 20 April 2012 - 11:07 AM, said:

I can understand feeling bad, I can understand wanting to apologize. I just don't understand the words he used.

Much hype has been raised over Trayvons age and the fact that he was unarmed. You think it was inappropriate for him to speak to that during the apology? What is it that you do not understand about his apology?

[feelip]

Does anyone know if there has been a "Get George Out Of Jail" fund set up? I would like to donate and he can keep the money after the bond has been satisfied to help with his finances.

[gonefromhere]

Starr & Dru, on 20 April 2012 - 10:32 AM, said:

That's what I've been saying!!!

Got it !

[Happy Wife And Mom]

I don't think he should have justified his actions by bringing up how old he thought
Martin was. I don't think the Martin's would feel less of a loss if their son was in his 20's.

[Mr.Dis]

Happy Wife And Mom, on 20 April 2012 - 01:48 PM, said:

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=PDmqFUJW3yE

I don't think he should have justified his actions by bringing up how old he thought
Martin was. I don't think the Martin's would feel less of a loss if their son was in his 20's.

Did he not say, And I am going off what I heard earlier, " I did not know how old he was or that he was unarmed". You call that justifing? He was laying out the facts. He was saying that, basically, in his mind that he was dealing with an armed adult. Did you not understand that part? Hind sight is 20 / 20. Many details come out later that he was not privy to at the time. That makes for a bad situation in the present that turned out badly for both of them


From your postings here, I hope they find him guilty and hang him by his testicles until dead because that is the only thing that will satisfy you. You have already made up your mind as to what happened and who was at fault regardless of what any more investigation / evidence reveals. I find that sad.

[Ugadawgs98]

Happy Wife And Mom, on 20 April 2012 - 01:48 PM, said:

I don't think he should have justified his actions by bringing up how old he thought
Martin was. I don't think the Martin's would feel less of a loss if their son was in his 20's.

Why? That can certainly be a factor in judging how serious a threat someone is. A grown 20 year old is more capable and dangerous than a 12 year old.

It is the same reason the media portrays Trayvon through a photo taken when he was 12, to make him look like less of a threat.

[feelip]

gonefromhere, on 20 April 2012 - 09:23 AM, said:

Did you se this? Hmmmmm........ Watch the news clip, interesting.

"Warning Graphic Photo: Possible New Evidence Shows George Zimmerman's Bloodied Head"

http://gma.yahoo.com...topstories.html

At 0:56 there is a photo of the big Trayvon. So there is a photo, why the hell is it the media continues to use the baby Trayvon photos?

Yeah, this big Trayvon certainly looks like he could do some damage.

[Mr.Dis]

Ugadawgs98, on 20 April 2012 - 01:56 PM, said:

Why? That can certainly be a factor in judging how serious a threat someone is. A grown 20 year old is more capable and dangerous than a 12 year old.

It is the same reason the media portrays Trayvon through a photo taken when he was 12, to make him look like less of a threat.

One of the first things that they taught us about juveniles is that they are much more likely than an adult to "pull the trigger" because "loss of life" is not as real to them. It is simply beyond the comprehension of many teens that when you are dead, you are dead and there will be no "do overs", respawns or going back to a previous saved game.

[Happy Wife And Mom]

Mr.Dis, on 20 April 2012 - 01:55 PM, said:

From your postings here, I hope they find him guilty and hang him by his testicles until dead because that is the only thing that will satisfy you. You have already made up your mind as to what happened and who was at fault regardless of what any more investigation / evidence reveals. I find that sad.

Dis you honestly don't have a clue what I think. I do not think that Zimmerman set out the kill Martin. I do feel that Zimmerman's pursuit and actions caused Martin's death. Do I think he deserves some punishment? Yes. On the other hand I feel Zimmerman could confess and you would still believe that Martin was the aggressor, which I find equally sad. Guess we should just agree to disagree on this one.

[feelip]

Happy Wife And Mom, on 20 April 2012 - 01:48 PM, said:

I don't think he should have justified his actions by bringing up how old he thought
Martin was. I don't think the Martin's would feel less of a loss if their son was in his 20's.

He doesn't have to justify his actions, I think the evidence is doing that. What he is doing is showing remorse. That was an apology. In other words, had he known the guy was 17, he would have probably taken a bullet before he pulled the trigger.

[Mr.Dis]

Happy Wife And Mom, on 20 April 2012 - 02:07 PM, said:

Dis you honestly don't have a clue what I think. I do not think that Zimmerman set out the kill Martin. I do feel that Zimmerman's pursuit and actions caused Martin's death. Do I think he deserves some punishment? Yes. On the other hand I feel Zimmerman could confess and you would still believe that Martin was the aggressor, which I find equally sad. Guess we should just agree to disagree on this one.

I have NEVER proclaimed his innocence. I have stood squarely on the principle that the Facts of the case will prove what happened. You on the other hand have steadfastly stood by ANY thought that put him at fault. Just think about the photos at the jail. Does that ring a bell? You said there was no injury. I said they did not prove that at all and you refused to here it. Now we have "better" pictures that prove the injury but yet it is still ALL his fault. I am trying to be the voice of reason and not take sides. It is that simple. Again I never said he was not guilty of bad decision makingor possibly other crimes but to be judged guilty in the media without all the evidence is absolutely wrong. I have no dog in this fight other than the media and "haters" should not be allowed to influence the the proper handling of a case.

[jenilyn]

Mr.Dis, on 20 April 2012 - 01:55 PM, said:

Did he not say, And I am going off what I heard earlier, " I did not know how old he was or that he was unarmed". You call that justifing? He was laying out the facts. He was saying that, basically, in his mind that he was dealing with an armed adult. Did you not understand that part? Hind sight is 20 / 20. Many details come out later that he was not privy to at the time. That makes for a bad situation in the present that turned out badly for both of them


From your postings here, I hope they find him guilty and hang him by his testicles until dead because that is the only thing that will satisfy you. You have already made up your mind as to what happened and who was at fault regardless of what any more investigation / evidence reveals. I find that sad.

and the same can be said for the other side. The people who have been convinced since day one that zimmerman was in the right and the "thug" deserved it. We all have a right to our opinions and theories. none of us know what happened that night anymore than the other. We all have a right to question though, I don't think those asking questions want the guy strung up by his balls. skepticism in a case like this is only natural IMO. It's the alive guys story against the dead guys story.

This post has been edited by jenilyn: 20 April 2012 - 02:20 PM

[Mr.Dis]

jenilyn, on 20 April 2012 - 02:19 PM, said:

and the same can be said for the other side. The people who have been convinced since day one that zimmerman was in the right and the "thug" deserved it. We all have a right to our opinions and theories. none of us know what happened that night anymore than the other. We all have a right to question though, I don't think those asking questions want the guy strung up by his balls. skepticism in a case like this is only natural IMO. It's the alive guys story against the dead guys story.

Having your own opinion is fine. Jumping on anything (in this case the "meaning" behind his words) that you think justifies your side of the events shows where your predjudices lie. I would be ok with him getting off from the legal charges. I believe the cilvil suit that would follow would surely go against him. Just think about OJ. I think the case for Murder 2 is a far stretch, but I do not have access to the evidence. If he is found guilty, you will not find me attacking the legal system or saying he was framed as long as the evidence supports it. I am about as neutral on this as you can get. Others among us are not so neutral.

[The Postman]

Florida courtrooms allow cameras, and most likely this case will be televised. People can more clearly draw their own conclusions during the trial. Speculation, so far, has not been very good on either side of the issue.

[feelip]

Mr.Dis, on 20 April 2012 - 02:27 PM, said:

Having your own opinion is fine. Jumping on anything (in this case the "meaning" behind his words) that you think justifies your side of the events shows where your predjudices lie. I would be ok with him getting off from the legal charges. I believe the cilvil suit that would follow would surely go against him. Just think about OJ. I think the case for Murder 2 is a far stretch, but I do not have access to the evidence. If he is found guilty, you will not find me attacking the legal system or saying he was framed as long as the evidence supports it. I am about as neutral on this as you can get. Others among us are not so neutral.

My neutrality ended when Sharpton and Obama made it about race. I'm tired of apologizing for being non-black. Now I want to see what they do when the evidence proves Zimmerman acted within the law. I'm betting that neither of the worthless bastards are man enough to publicly apologize like Zimmerman did today.

[The Postman]

Zimmerman want have to apologize like David Gore did last week, in Starke Florida!


"Fla. inmate apologizes before being executed for murder of teenager" Associated Press, April 13, 2012

STARKE, Fla. - A Florida inmate was put to death Thursday, nearly three decades after the murder of 17-year-old Lynn Elliott, whose futile bid to flee led to his capture and ended a string of rapes and slayings that shook the quiet coastal town of Vero Beach.

David Alan Gore, 58, was pronounced dead at 6:19 p.m. Thursday after receiving an injection at the Florida State Prison, officials said.

Asked if he had a final statement, Gore said as he lay strapped to a gurney: “Yes, I do.’’
“I want to say to the Elliott family, I am sorry for the death of your daughter,’’ Gore said. “I am not the man I was back then, 28 years ago. I am a Christian. Christ lives within me. I hope you all can find peace today.’’

Making no eye contact with the family, he added that he hoped the family could “find it in their hearts to forgive me’’ and concluded: “I don’t fear death.’’

This post has been edited by The Postman: 20 April 2012 - 03:16 PM

[feelip]

The Postman, on 20 April 2012 - 03:12 PM, said:

Zimmerman want have to apologize like David Gore did last week, in Starke Florida!


"Fla. inmate apologizes before being executed for murder of teenager" Associated Press, April 13, 2012

STARKE, Fla. - A Florida inmate was put to death Thursday, nearly three decades after the murder of 17-year-old Lynn Elliott, whose futile bid to flee led to his capture and ended a string of rapes and slayings that shook the quiet coastal town of Vero Beach.

David Alan Gore, 58, was pronounced dead at 6:19 p.m. Thursday after receiving an injection at the Florida State Prison, officials said.

Asked if he had a final statement, Gore said as he lay strapped to a gurney: “Yes, I do.’’
“I want to say to the Elliott family, I am sorry for the death of your daughter,’’ Gore said. “I am not the man I was back then, 28 years ago. I am a Christian. Christ lives within me. I hope you all can find peace today.’’

Making no eye contact with the family, he added that he hoped the family could “find it in their hearts to forgive me’’ and concluded: “I don’t fear death.’’

I agree Eddie. He won't.

[The Postman]

feelip, on 20 April 2012 - 03:30 PM, said:

I agree Eddie. He won't.

David Alan Gore


Cold blooded murder is different from second degree murder. I expect Zimmerman will see a lot of jail time, but I hope he can become a more decent person to continue living outside the confines of prison, one day.

[feelip]

The Postman, on 20 April 2012 - 03:48 PM, said:

David Alan Gore


Cold blooded murder is different from second degree murder. I expect Zimmerman will see a lot of jail time, but I hope he can become a more decent person to continue living outside the confines of prison, one day.

It won't happen Eddie. When he gets out on bond he will never be back in jail for this. The only reason he ever went to jail was to keep the protestors from destroying the town. Or as Porky Pig says:

[The Postman]

feelip, on 20 April 2012 - 05:04 PM, said:

It won't happen Eddie. When he gets out on bond he will never be back in jail for this. The only reason he ever went to jail was to keep the protestors from destroying the town. Or as Porky Pig says:

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=gBzJGckMYO4

We will see; that's for sure, feelip!


I don't commence to have the physic ability you have, so I'll just wait to see if you are right.

[feelip]

The Postman, on 20 April 2012 - 05:18 PM, said:

We will see; that's for sure, feelip!


I don't commence to have the physic ability you have, so I'll just wait to see if you are right.

If you meant psychic you obviously don't have the spellchecker I have either.

[Jetasmom]

Happy Wife And Mom, on 20 April 2012 - 10:45 AM, said:

What was up with his apology to Martin's family?

Happy Wife And Mom, on 20 April 2012 - 11:07 AM, said:

I can understand feeling bad, I can understand wanting to apologize. I just don't understand the words he used.

feelip, on 20 April 2012 - 02:58 PM, said:

My neutrality ended when Sharpton and Obama made it about race. I'm tired of apologizing for being non-black. Now I want to see what they do when the evidence proves Zimmerman acted within the law. I'm betting that neither of the worthless bastards are man enough to publicly apologize like Zimmerman did today.

It wasn't an apology, it was expressing condolences -- a play on words setup by his attorney so that he is not admitting guilt at this time.

his exact words were:
"I am sorry for the loss of your son" --- not, i am sorry for shooting/killing your son. What he said was the same kindness that the bereaved would get at a funeral from friends, etc

[Starr & Dru's Nana]

At least he expressed his condolences. The person who killed a friend of mine never apologized or showed any emotion.

[feelip]

Jetasmom, on 21 April 2012 - 10:51 AM, said:

It wasn't an apology, it was expressing condolences -- a play on words setup by his attorney so that he is not admitting guilt at this time.

his exact words were:
"I am sorry for the loss of your son" --- not, i am sorry for shooting/killing your son. What he said was the same kindness that the bereaved would get at a funeral from friends, etc

Oh well let me re-phrase then. Obama and Sharpton made it about race and I bet neither of the worthless bastards will be man enough to express their condolences when Zimmerman is exonerated.

[NavyEagle#1]

Florida is guilty of trying people with little evidence.

Zimmerman should be out on a reasonable bail. The only reason it is so high is that the legal system is bowing to racist pressure from the black population and not the facts.

[gonefromhere]

NavyEagle#1, on 21 April 2012 - 08:43 PM, said:

Florida is guilty of trying people with little evidence.

Zimmerman should be out on a reasonable bail. The only reason it is so high is that the legal system is bowing to racist pressure from the black population and not the facts.

I think that is the only reason he was arrested in the first place, JMHO.