[lowrider]

Like I said earlier:



Zimmerman will have to go into hiding just like Casey Anthony. Ot take on another idendity or leave the country.

That's enough of a sentence for me, forever wondering if that person behind you is stalking you, going to kill you.

Yeah, that works for me.

[feelip]

lowrider, on 12 April 2012 - 08:59 AM, said:

Like I said earlier:



Zimmerman will have to go into hiding just like Casey Anthony. Ot take on another idendity or leave the country.

That's enough of a sentence for me, forever wondering if that person behind you is stalking you, going to kill you.

Yeah, that works for me.

Damn right. Doesn't matter to me if he is guilty of any crime or not. Just as long as his life is destroyed.

[lowrider]

You are not "standing your ground" if you are in pursuit of: ie: stalking, following

[PastNFront]

What we are in need of is more people like Zimmerman and less teenage halfwits.

[Adam&Jessica]

lowrider, on 12 April 2012 - 09:19 AM, said:

You are not "standing your ground" if you are in pursuit ie: stalking, following

He was a neighborhood watch captain. His job was to report and monitor suspicious activity in the neighborhood.

[lowrider]

Adam&Jessica, on 12 April 2012 - 09:34 AM, said:

He was a neighborhood watch captain. His job was to report and monitor suspicious activity in the neighborhood.

His "job" was to stop following Trayvon when asked to......"We don't need you to do that".

His "job" was to wait on the police, not kill the 17 YO.

And it wasn't a "job", he was a wannabe.

[lowrider]

feelip, on 12 April 2012 - 09:12 AM, said:

Damn right. Doesn't matter to me if he is guilty of any crime or not. Just as long as his life is destroyed.

Oh, he's guilty.

The courts will have to decide to what degree.

[The Postman]

LPPT, on 12 April 2012 - 08:01 AM, said:

I am pretty sure that his reference is to 2 cases of hate crimes one in SC and another in Tx. where black men were dragged behind trucks.
There are years and years of atrocities that can be researched on the internet and brought up.
Plenty of fuel around to ignite a firestorm for those that want one.

I was very impressed with Trayvon's mother's remarks after the arrest, I don't think her intention was to ever cause racial strife, she did not want her son condemned as a punk and the entire thing swept under the rug.
She ask for an investigation.
She got it and the grace with which she has responded to the arrest of Zimmerman speaks volumes about her character.
She was left with no choice but to find a way to get the Feds involved because she was stonewalled at the local level. I don't believe she ever wanted the racial tension it caused.

"I believe it was an accident. I believe it just got out of control and he couldn't turn the clock back," Fulton said, revealing her opinion on what happened the night her 17-year-old son was shot to death. "I would ask him, did he know that that was a minor, that that was a teenager and that he did not have a weapon."

Fulton said even if Zimmerman is found not guilty, the arrest achieves the goal of their campaign to raise awareness and bring him to justice.

"We just want him to be held accountable for what he done," Fulton said. "We are happy that he was arrested so that he can give his side of the story."

Zimmerman was charged following an investigation by special prosecutor Angela Corey, who was asked by Gov. Rick Scott to take over the case.

The decision was met with relief from Trayvon's parents, attorneys and supporters nationwide. In Sanford, where the teen was killed, residents celebrated and clamored that justice was on its way.

Meanwhile, Zimmerman's attorney Mark O'Mara said his client was tired after several weeks of difficulty.

"He wants to be out to help with his defense, but he's doing OK," O'Mara told the NBC morning show.

Fulton, alongside Trayvon's father and their attorney, said she sympathizes with Zimmerman's family but asked for their consideration.

"I understand that his family is hurting but think about our family, we lost our teenage son," she told Today Show anchor Ann Curry. "His parents can pick up the phone and call him, but we can't pick up the phone and call Trayvon any more."

Link to the rest of the story

Thank you very much, LPPT


Kindness in the right place can be observed by the masses!

[The Postman]

feelip, on 12 April 2012 - 09:12 AM, said:

Damn right. Doesn't matter to me if he is guilty of any crime or not. Just as long as his life is destroyed.

Yeah, damn right!!! - As for as what lowrider said, feelup!

[PastNFront]

What I dont understand I's all the outrage for what the mother and planned parent failed to do 17 years ago. If she would have done what Zimmerman did 17 years ago, she would be considered brave and a hero in the eyes of the looney left.

But when someone else cleans up their mess they are considered monsters?

[lowrider]

PastNFront, on 12 April 2012 - 09:57 AM, said:

What I dont understand I's all the outrage for what the mother and planned parent failed to do 17 years ago. If she would have done what Zimmerman did 17 years ago, she would be considered brave and a hero in the eyes of the looney left.

But when someone else cleans up their mess they are considered monsters?

I think you're a troll.

[The Postman]

PastNFront, on 12 April 2012 - 09:57 AM, said:

What I dont understand I's all the outrage for what the mother and planned parent failed to do 17 years ago. If she would have done what Zimmerman did 17 years ago, she would be considered brave and a hero in the eyes of the looney left.

But when someone else cleans up their mess they are considered monsters?

Here is how I see it, PNF!


Do you think you got a grip, look at yourself your lips are like two flaps of fat, they go front and back and flappityflappity flap.

[feelip]

The Postman, on 12 April 2012 - 10:12 AM, said:

Here is how I see it, PNF!


Do you think you got a grip, look at yourself your lips are like two flaps of fat, they go front and back and flappityflappity flap.

We don't need you to do that.

[The Postman]

feelip, on 12 April 2012 - 10:15 AM, said:

We don't need you to do that.

What makes you think I care what you need, feelip?

Do you think I am a following stalker, a troll or just someone expressing his opinion?

In my opinion I am expressing my opinion, I am not licensed to carry a gun. I am in the process of buying a Henry Big Boy, long gun.

What say ya?

This post has been edited by The Postman: 12 April 2012 - 10:19 AM

[PcsCharli]

TabbyCat, on 11 April 2012 - 06:11 PM, said:

Self-defense isn't murder.

I'm not sure you could call this self defense if you have a gun and the other person did not? If i were in that situation-afraid or not ( can't imagine being that afraid with a gun in my hand) I would fire a warning shot, then aim directly at the person and threaten to shot him next, and follow through if I felt the need. Just seems that a kid would run if that happened. Just saying!

[feelip]

PcsCharli, on 12 April 2012 - 11:26 AM, said:

I'm not sure you could call this self defense if you have a gun and the other person did not? If i were in that situation-afraid or not ( can't imagine being that afraid with a gun in my hand) I would fire a warning shot, then aim directly at the person and threaten to shot him next, and follow through if I felt the need. Just seems that a kid would run if that happened. Just saying!

Spoken like someone that has never been in this situation. Let me give you a "little movie" I borrowed from someone else.

The guy was reportedly sucker punched, knocked to the ground, his head beaten against the concrete, punched in the nose. All this likely happened in less than 10 seconds. Now where in that ten seconds are you going to realize that there is a predator trying to kill you and you need to do something to save your life.....oh yeah....I'll fire a warning shot.....

I have a feeling that anyone with any kind of weapon is going to use that weapon to stop the attack as soon as possible.

BTW, it IS self defense regardless of the weapon. IT IS AGAINST THE LAW TO ASSAULT A PERSON. Doesn't matter if you assault them with your fists, feet, a 2x4, a tire tool or a gun. And when you are being assaulted, you have the right to use deadly force to stop the assault (if you are in Georgia or Florida or another state that has the stand your ground law).

[PastNFront]

PcsCharli, on 12 April 2012 - 11:26 AM, said:

I'm not sure you could call this self defense if you have a gun and the other person did not? If i were in that situation-afraid or not ( can't imagine being that afraid with a gun in my hand) I would fire a warning shot, then aim directly at the person and threaten to shot him next, and follow through if I felt the need. Just seems that a kid would run if that happened. Just saying!

Well the teenage idiot did bash zimmermans head into the curb so it is justified.

If it where me and the kid raised his hand to me, the last thing he would see would be a bright muzzle flash right between his eyes.

[The Postman]

PcsCharli, on 12 April 2012 - 11:26 AM, said:

I'm not sure you could call this self defense if you have a gun and the other person did not? If i were in that situation-afraid or not ( can't imagine being that afraid with a gun in my hand) I would fire a warning shot, then aim directly at the person and threaten to shot him next, and follow through if I felt the need. Just seems that a kid would run if that happened. Just saying!

That is not just saying, but it is very good thinking, PC, and is also knowing what you are talking about.

[Lady Raider]

well good lawd....

[lowrider]

Again:

lowrider, on 12 April 2012 - 09:19 AM, said:

You are not "standing your ground" if you are in pursuit of: ie: stalking, following

Of course, I wasn't there to see his head supposedly get bashed or his nose supposedly get smashed.........but I did hear the 911 tape and read the transcrips that said:


Dispatcher: He's running? Which way is he running?

Zimmerman: Down towards the other entrance to the neighborhood.

Dispatcher: Which entrance is that that he's heading towards?

Zimmerman: The back entrance…f*ucking [unintelligible]

Dispatcher: Are you following him?

Zimmerman: Yeah

Dispatcher: Ok, we don't need you to do that.

Zimmerman: Ok

[The Postman]

PastNFront, on 12 April 2012 - 11:43 AM, said:

Well the teenage idiot did bash zimmermans head into the curb so it is justified.

If it where me and the kid raised his hand to me, the last thing he would see would be a bright muzzle flash right between his eyes.

If that, indeed, happened Zimmerman was not supposed to be following the kid. Zimmerman was told by 911 authorities to stop his pursuit.

Your between the eyes theory (idea) would get you where Zimmerman is, now, because shooting someone after the fact is a murder rap. You don't kill someone for assaulting you, that is different from self defense. That's like killing them when they were jumping the fence.

[LPPT]

feelip, on 12 April 2012 - 11:43 AM, said:

Spoken like someone that has never been in this situation. Let me give you a "little movie" I borrowed from someone else.

The guy was reportedly sucker punched, knocked to the ground, his head beaten against the concrete, punched in the nose. All this likely happened in less than 10 seconds. Now where in that ten seconds are you going to realize that there is a predator trying to kill you and you need to do something to save your life.....oh yeah....I'll fire a warning shot.....

I have a feeling that anyone with any kind of weapon is going to use that weapon to stop the attack as soon as possible.

BTW, it IS self defense regardless of the weapon. IT IS AGAINST THE LAW TO ASSAULT A PERSON. Doesn't matter if you assault them with your fists, feet, a 2x4, a tire tool or a gun. And when you are being assaulted, you have the right to use deadly force to stop the assault (if you are in Georgia or Florida or another state that has the stand your ground law).

Does the law address contriving a situation that allows you to use the law for your own objectives?

[mrnn]

PastNFront, on 12 April 2012 - 09:57 AM, said:

What I dont understand I's all the outrage for what the mother and planned parent failed to do 17 years ago. If she would have done what Zimmerman did 17 years ago, she would be considered brave and a hero in the eyes of the looney left.

But when someone else cleans up their mess they are considered monsters?

Stay classy.


mrnn

[The Postman]

LPPT, on 12 April 2012 - 11:52 AM, said:

Does the law address contriving a situation that allows you to use the law for your own objectives?

feelip's idea might be something the Justice System will consider, but it will depend on the powder burn theory, and other evidence

[gonefromhere]

I gotta get in touch with Mr. Zimmerman and let him know that it appears that some of the Pcom sh%t house lawyers have wrapped up about 25-30 pages finding him Guilty of murder, a racist, stalking, profiling, etc. So Mr. Zimmerman, when you are found not guilty in Florida, avoid this area if you travel through Pcom land......

[LuvsCats]

feelip, on 12 April 2012 - 11:43 AM, said:

Spoken like someone that has never been in this situation. Let me give you a "little movie" I borrowed from someone else.

The guy was reportedly sucker punched, knocked to the ground, his head beaten against the concrete, punched in the nose. All this likely happened in less than 10 seconds. Now where in that ten seconds are you going to realize that there is a predator trying to kill you and you need to do something to save your life.....oh yeah....I'll fire a warning shot.....

I have a feeling that anyone with any kind of weapon is going to use that weapon to stop the attack as soon as possible.

BTW, it IS self defense regardless of the weapon. IT IS AGAINST THE LAW TO ASSAULT A PERSON. Doesn't matter if you assault them with your fists, feet, a 2x4, a tire tool or a gun. And when you are being assaulted, you have the right to use deadly force to stop the assault (if you are in Georgia or Florida or another state that has the stand your ground law).

maybe so but when he made the phone call and he told them he was following him and they told him they did not need for him to do that. If he would have listened and went on home then the kid would be alive and his ass would not be in jail.IMHO

[Happy Wife And Mom]

feelip, on 12 April 2012 - 11:43 AM, said:

The guy was reportedly sucker punched, knocked to the ground, his head beaten against the concrete, punched in the nose.

Reported by Zimmerman, what a shock. We still don't know that the Trayvon, who was running away, circled back and attacked him.

[Riptides]

Adam&Jessica, on 12 April 2012 - 08:25 AM, said:

No you wouldn't. That'd label you as a criminal for the rest of your life, make it impossible to find a decent job in the future, and make you look like a buffoon, all because you acted in accordance with a state law. That'd be the stupidest possible thing to do.

I'm sorry but I do take umbrage with you telling me what I would and would not do. You do not know me so don't presume you can speak for me.

Secondly, it would label him a criminal and ruin the rest of life?

At this point as opposed to what?


I'm just saying if he had had any sense he would have had his lawyers work with the prosecutors office to engineer charges he could plead down to and walk away with probation.
He's already stated his belief is that if he goes to jail/prison he's a dead man and he only wants to leave the US.

gonefromhere, on 12 April 2012 - 12:05 PM, said:

I gotta get in touch with Mr. Zimmerman and let him know that it appears that some of the Pcom sh%t house lawyers have wrapped up about 25-30 pages finding him Guilty of murder, a racist, stalking, profiling, etc. So Mr. Zimmerman, when you are found not guilty in Florida, avoid this area if you travel through Pcom land......

You do that, we'll continue to discuss the case like adults in the fashion which the forum was designed for.

[Adam&Jessica]

lowrider, on 12 April 2012 - 09:36 AM, said:

His "job" was to stop following Trayvon when asked to......"We don't need you to do that".

His "job" was to wait on the police, not kill the 17 YO.

And it wasn't a "job", he was a wannabe.

He wasn't directed not to follow him. The county cleared that up a few days later. He was simply told that it wasn't necessary. Huge difference.

If the 17 year old doesn't hit him in the head hard enough to cause bleeding, then he doesn't get shot. End of story.

In Florida, a threat to your personal safety is all that is required for you to take action. That threat was present in this case. Hence, self defense under Florida Law. You may not like it, but it doesn't change the fact that unless someone was filming the incident, and Zimmerman is completely off base with the story he told, that he should, under Florida law, walk away from this with an acquittal.

[lowrider]

Adam&Jessica, on 12 April 2012 - 12:23 PM, said:

He wasn't directed not to follow him. The county cleared that up a few days later. He was simply told that it wasn't necessary. Huge difference.

If the 17 year old doesn't hit him in the head hard enough to cause bleeding, then he doesn't get shot. End of story.

In Florida, a threat to your personal safety is all that is required for you to take action. That threat was present in this case. Hence, self defense under Florida Law. You may not like it, but it doesn't change the fact that unless someone was filming the incident, and Zimmerman is completely off base with the story he told, that he should, under Florida law, walk away from this with an acquittal.

You are not "standing your ground" if you are in pursuit of: ie: stalking, following

[Adam&Jessica]

Riptides, on 12 April 2012 - 12:22 PM, said:

I'm sorry but I do take umbrage with you telling me what I would and would not do. You do not know me so don't presume you can speak for me.

Secondly, it would label him a criminal and ruin the rest of life?

At this point as opposed to what?

Feel free to take umbrage. I'm still right. You can say you'd do this, or you'd do that, but you really wouldn't. If you tried to, your attorney would have you committed to a mental institution.

If he's acquitted, he doesn't have a criminal record following him for the rest of his life. In five years, most of this will be completely behind him. In ten years, most people won't know who he is, especially if he moves to a state far away.



As I've said before, there is a fundamental misunderstanding of how the law works in Florida.

To quote the applicable section of Florida's stand your ground law:

Quote

A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.

Zimmerman was not committing any crime by patrolling the neighborhood. He had a right to be in the neighborhood. Therefore, he had a right to stand his ground. He was attacked by Martin, and sustained injury, therefore he had the right to use deadly force to protect himself. Case closed. All other facts really don't matter once those two things are established. It doesn't matter that 911 said he didn't have to follow Martin. It doesn't matter that Martin was unarmed. Race doesn't matter. The law is very clear, and it's on Zimmerman's side. Once he's acquitted, he should immediately start suing people for libel and slander, considering all of the completely inaccurate info that has been reported about the case.

This post has been edited by Adam&Jessica: 12 April 2012 - 12:48 PM

[Adam&Jessica]

lowrider, on 12 April 2012 - 12:28 PM, said:

You are not "standing your ground" if you are in pursuit of: ie: stalking, following

Final time I am going to explain this. I realize that some people don't read the whole thread, or just refuse to actually research and find things out.

Zimmerman was the neighborhood watch captain. He was patrolling that night. He saw something suspicious. He called the police, and followed, like neighborhood watch usually does. That's not stalking. It's not even close to stalking. If you really think that it is, you probably need to research, and find out what you have to do to be considered a stalker.

[Happy Wife And Mom]

Adam&Jessica, on 12 April 2012 - 12:32 PM, said:

He was attacked by Martin, and sustained injury, therefore he had the right to use deadly force to protect himself. Case closed.

We don't know Martin attacked him. Maybe, just maybe Zimmerman started it and then found himself on the ground and decided he needed his gun. Why are so many people willing to believe that a kid that was running away would suddenly go in pursuit of Zimmerman. Even if Martin was some punk kid they rarely do anything without their boys with them.

[Riptides]

Adam&Jessica, on 12 April 2012 - 12:32 PM, said:

Feel free to take umbrage. I'm still right. You can say you'd do this, or you'd do that, but you really wouldn't. If you tried to, your attorney would have you committed to a mental institution.

If he's acquitted, he doesn't have a criminal record following him for the rest of his life. In five years, most of this will be completely behind him. In ten years, most people won't know who he is, especially if he moves to a state far away.



As I've said before, there is a fundamental misunderstand of how the law works in Florida.

To quote the applicable section of Florida's stand your ground law:




Zimmerman was not committing any crime by patrolling the neighborhood. He had a right to be in the neighborhood. Therefore, he had a right to stand his ground. He was attacked by Martin, and sustained injury, therefore he had the right to use deadly force to protect himself. Case closed. All other facts really don't matter once those two things are established. It doesn't matter that 911 said he didn't have to follow Martin. It doesn't matter that Martin was unarmed. Race doesn't matter. The law is very clear, and it's on Zimmerman's side. Once he's acquitted, he should immediately start suing people for libel and slander, considering all of the completely inaccurate info that has been reported about the case.

Why bless your heart. I did live in Florida as a gun owner, I had friends who were the same. We discussed this ad nasuem so many times, the salient points have been discussed on here, I won't go over them. But the law is inherently flawed in that the word of a living man trumps the facts and evidence of the case. If the law wasn't written as such and applied as it was in this case, then we wouldn't be at this point. I've said it before, I like the law, but even the more intelligent gun owners I discussed this with can see the flaws. I even had to go through having a neighbor brandish his weapon to some young punk kids who had been escalating the situation, where everyone agreed had the neighbor just blown the punks away he wouldn't have been sentenced to prison.

If the autopsy results show that Martin was shot from more than a point blank range, as per Zimmermans story, then the stand your ground law will be out the window as being more than a few feet away from an unarmed person really doesn't back "being in mortal danger", you DO realize that's the crux of the stand your ground law, it has less to do with where you are physically at.

But hey I'm just spitballing and if you feel better insulting my intelligence then more power to you.

This post has been edited by Riptides: 12 April 2012 - 12:49 PM

[Adam&Jessica]

Happy Wife And Mom, on 12 April 2012 - 12:41 PM, said:

We don't know Martin attacked him. Maybe, just maybe Zimmerman started it and then found himself on the ground and decided he needed his gun. Why are so many people willing to believe that a kid that was running away would suddenly go in pursuit of Zimmerman. Even if Martin was some punk kid they rarely do anything without their boys with them.

It doesn't matter who we believe. Zimmerman's testimony is the only direct evidence. He had injuries when the police arrived. That's reasonable doubt. That's quite literally all it takes.

[lowrider]

Adam&Jessica, on 12 April 2012 - 12:35 PM, said:

Final time I am going to explain this. I realize that some people don't read the whole thread, or just refuse to actually research and find things out.

Zimmerman was the neighborhood watch captain. He was patrolling that night. He saw something suspicious. He called the police, and followed, like neighborhood watch usually does. That's not stalking. It's not even close to stalking. If you really think that it is, you probably need to research, and find out what you have to do to be considered a stalker.

You don't have to explain anything to me...........

I wasn't there and neither were you, I only know what I read from the transcripts.

I don't know that Trayvon attacked him anymore than you do.

And Trayvon had just as much right to be in that complex as did Zimmerman. He was staying with his father. Who hasn't had a teenager that had some problems? Apparently a lot of folks on here haven't, because they are perfect parents with perfect children in a perfect neighborhood in a perfect world. His mother was having trouble with him in Miami Gardens and sent him to be with his father. What single mother hasn't tried that when the father was available?

Trayvon was his mother's son, and if it had been my child or my grandson who is 16, has brown skin and wears hoodies and eats skittles, I would have screamed at the top of my lungs until somebody paid attention and helped with this investigation, which is exactly what his parents did.

It's up to the prosecutor and defense attorney to try this case in a court of law.

[jenilyn]

lowrider, on 12 April 2012 - 12:50 PM, said:

You don't have to explain anything to me...........

I wasn't there and neither were you, I only know what I read from the transcripts.

I don't know that Trayvon attacked him anymore than you do.

And Trayvon had just as much right to be in that complex as did Zimmerman. He was staying with his father. Who hasn't had a teenager that had some problems? Apparently a lot of folks on here haven't, because they are perfect parents with perfect children in a perfect neighborhood in a perfect world. His mother was having trouble with him in Miami Gardens and sent him to be with his father. What single mother hasn't tried that when the father was available?

Trayvon was his mother's son, and if it had been my child or my grandson who is 16, has brown skin and wears hoodies and eats skittles, I would have screamed at the top of my lungs until somebody paid attention and helped with this investigation, which is exactly what his parents did.

It's up to the prosecutor and defense attorney to try this case in a court of law.

Well said.

[lowrider]

FROM CNN:



(CNN) -- A solemn George Zimmerman, wearing gray jail coveralls, appeared before a Seminole County, Florida, judge Thursday, speaking only a few words as his arraignment was set for next month.

All matters including bond and further motions in the case will be handled by the circuit court, Judge Mark Herr said. The case will be assigned to Judge Jessica Recksiedler going forward.

As the short hearing was concluding, Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O'Mara, asked that records containing personal information on witnesses, including addresses and telephone numbers in some cases, be sealed. As nothing else besides the probable cause affidavit had been filed in court Thursday, Herr said Recksiedler will address a motion to seal the file.

O'Mara did not ask that Zimmerman be released on bond, although he said earlier in the day he wanted his client released as soon as possible.

He did note, however, that being out on bail could jeopardize Zimmerman's safety.

"I think nobody would deny the fact if George Zimmerman is walking down the street today, he would be at risk," he explained.

O'Mara said earlier Thursday he is "truly hoping that there will be a receding of the frustrations or anger now that the process is moving forward."

cnn

[Riptides]

At this point Zimmerman is sitting there with a bag of busted lemons, just trying to say, in his shoes, I would have already been planning on making some lemonade a long time ago. His life is essentially over, it was over the moment he began following the kid that night. I'm saying there's an advantage to throwing yourself on the mercies of the public opinion, being contrite, and begging forgiveness, there's a life after all that and a book deal in it. Zimmerman has stood up for himself and been so obstinate through this process he has really been working against such a thing happening. As it is, his statements have been "I'm sorry I shot someone" in more of the regard that it has now ruined his life, not in that he's sorry he took another life.

(LOL pubs)

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[Jet_man1969]

Adam&Jessica, on 12 April 2012 - 08:25 AM, said:

If by being carried out well, you mean they are deliberately overcharging in hopes of scaring the guy into pleading, then yes. The problem is that you don't have a basic understand of how the stand your ground law works. People have walked away with no charges, and no fuss, after cases in which self defense was much less clear cut, and in which the shooter had no injuries at all. Zimmerman had injuries, and at least some witnesses claiming he was yelling for help. That's all the reasonable doubt he needs.




You are correct. They are going to try to browbeat him, and hope the jury doesn't look at the evidence. The judge should throw the charges out during pretrial.



No you wouldn't. That'd label you as a criminal for the rest of your life, make it impossible to find a decent job in the future, and make you look like a buffoon, all because you acted in accordance with a state law. That'd be the stupidest possible thing to do.



What all of you need to remember is that this is about politics and popularity. If everyone didn't get on the bandwagon, then these charges never get placed.

You are ASSUMING he acted within the law, You know what they say about that. The lead investigator wanted to charge him that night but the prosecutor put a stop to it for what ever reason you would like to believe. Maybe there wasn't enough evidence to proceed, or maybe they are under a budget crunch like every other city and didn't want to waste resources on this thug.