[The Postman]

People who go along with you until the sheeze hits the fan, and then points their shezy finger at you as the one to blame may not be very good people to have in your heritage. Carrying on a family tradition like that will cause people not to trust you any further than they can throw a stick.

What did some of the heritage say around here, back in 1864?

Here's what Sherman said Georgian's told him when he was coming through from Chattanooga.





"...we are not only fighting hostile armies, but a hostile people, and must make old and young, rich and poor, feel the hard hand of war, as well as their organized armies. I know that this recent movement of mine through Georgia has had a wonderful effect in this respect. Thousands who had been deceived by their lying newspapers to believe that we were being whipped all the time now realize the truth, and have no appetite for a repetition of the same experience...
Many and many a person in Georgia asked me why we did not go to South Carolina; and, when I answered that we were en route for that State, the invariable reply was, "Well, if you will make those people feel the utmost severities of war, we will pardon you for your desolation of Georgia."
William T. Sherman, in a letter to Major-General H. W. Halleck, Chief-of-Staff, Washington, D.C., December 24, 1864

[The Postman]

There still could very well be many and many a person, in Georgia, who feels that way about their comrade's today.

I am not so sure about some of my own family members.


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I understand that there also could be many and many a person in Georgia who are very good, and trustworthy, people. I have met quiet a few people whom I would trust behind my back.


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All I'm saying is that hearing only one side of the real story, all your life, is no way to be wise in time. You may be just as dumb as you ever was, if you hear only one side of the story, all the time, you may lean the wrong way. I certainly would't want to lean in the direction of the many and many a person who told Sherman what they told him in 1864.

This post has been edited by The Postman: 20 March 2012 - 10:15 AM

[bearbearsnanny]

The Postman, on 20 March 2012 - 10:01 AM, said:

There still could very well be many and many a person, in Georgia, who feels that way about their comrade's today.

I am not so sure about some of my own family members.


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I understand that there also could be many and many a person in Georgia who are very good, and trustworthy, people. I have met quiet a few people whom I would trust behind my back.

I must be missing something here....did you just insult my state on our county forums website or is this some kind of joke? If you are serious you are right there probably aren't many people you should trust standing behind you right now.

[The Postman]

bearbearsnanny, on 20 March 2012 - 10:12 AM, said:

I must be missing something here....did you just insult my state on our county forums website or is this some kind of joke? If you are serious you are right there probably aren't many people you should trust standing behind you right now.

It's no insult, but it is no joke either. I am just saying to people that just because you hear one side of a story doesn't mean it's the whole story.


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Which of the many and many a person, in Georgia, are you friends of, bbn?

You can't take an eraser and erase the many and many a bad people. Why did you ignore the fact that I also said there could be many and many of good, trustworthy, people in Georgia?.

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[bearbearsnanny]

The Postman, on 20 March 2012 - 10:17 AM, said:

It's no insult, but it is no joke either. I am just saying to people that just because you hear one side of a story doesn't mean it's the whole story.

Your remarks are a load of crap....I for one am proud to be a native Georgian and if you don't trust us please feel free to relocate. But either way, please shut up.

[The Postman]

bearbearsnanny, on 20 March 2012 - 10:22 AM, said:

Your remarks are a load of crap....I for one am proud to be a native Georgian and if you don't trust us please feel free to relocate. But either way, please shut up.

I myself am proud to be a native Georgian. I was born in the Breman GA hospital. But, I know better than to just shut up, because that doesn't work. I stand up, not shut up.



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Believe me, I went along to try to get along with all Georgian's that I ran across over the years, but I had to quit doing that. I found out that there are still many and many a persons, in Georgia, who think pretty much the same way the many and many a persons did when they told Sherman what they told him. Nevertheless, there are many and many a person's in Georgia that I love, and trust.

This post has been edited by The Postman: 20 March 2012 - 10:39 AM

[Johnny Jacobs]

First, the original settlers and those that followed were very religious and many would have forgave any General of acts of war. Many Georgians did not want to leave the Union, in fact Paulding voted to remain in the Union.

Second, many were of the middle class and very conservative. They had owned businesses in their previous life elsewhere...mill owners, store owners, plantation owners, etc...

Third, if you examine the records you will find that Sherman had relatives in Georgia.

[The Postman]

How wrong is it to deny such people, who would turn their backs on their comrade's, in a time of despair, even if they are in your own family?

[The Postman]

Johnny Jacobs, on 20 March 2012 - 10:42 AM, said:

First, the original settlers and those that followed were very religious and many would have forgave any General of acts of war. Many Georgians did not want to leave the Union, in fact Paulding voted to remain in the Union.

Second, many were of the middle class and very conservative. They had owned businesses in their previous life elsewhere...mill owners, store owners, plantation owners, etc...

Third, if you examine the records you will find that Sherman had relatives in Georgia.

Yes, JJ!

I certainly see that side, and cannot deny that wonderful side of the story. You do well by seemingly always looking at the bright side. I, however, am more of a critic. I used to be a floor mat, here in Georgia, and a lot of people were happy to accommodate me, and wiped their feet. I now par attention to both side if a circumstance. It is nice to only see the bright side, and never talk about the dark side, and a lot more people do only look at the bright side. But, in Georgia it's "buyer beware."

[gonefromhere]

bearbearsnanny, on 20 March 2012 - 10:22 AM, said:

Your remarks are a load of crap....I for one am proud to be a native Georgian and if you don't trust us please feel free to relocate. But either way, please shut up.

Unfortunate, but neither will happen.....

[The Postman]

gonefromhere, on 20 March 2012 - 11:24 AM, said:

Unfortunate, but neither will happen.....

What is unfortunate is that some people go through their entire life believing what they have been told, or what they learned in school.

I learned a lot in school, which was simply not true. One example is Thomas Edison being responsible for lighting up our homes with electricity, which is simply not true. I was a grown man before I learned that Nekoli Tesla was the man who made electricity possible, in our common home uses.

I don't care what you've been told, what you learned in school, nor how you think things ought to be. I'm telling you like it IS.

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[Starr & Dru's Nana]

I had quite a few ancestors who fought for the Union, although they were born and raised in the south.

I, for one, think anyone who disrespects the South should move north. Our ancestors stood up for what they believed as well.

Johnny Jacobs, on 20 March 2012 - 10:42 AM, said:

First, the original settlers and those that followed were very religious and many would have forgave any General of acts of war. Many Georgians did not want to leave the Union, in fact Paulding voted to remain in the Union.

Second, many were of the middle class and very conservative. They had owned businesses in their previous life elsewhere...mill owners, store owners, plantation owners, etc...

Third, if you examine the records you will find that Sherman had relatives in Georgia.

[DallasRED]

Johnny Jacobs, on 20 March 2012 - 10:42 AM, said:

First, the original settlers and those that followed were very religious and many would have forgave any General of acts of war. Many Georgians did not want to leave the Union, in fact Paulding voted to remain in the Union.

Second, many were of the middle class and very conservative. They had owned businesses in their previous life elsewhere...mill owners, store owners, plantation owners, etc...

Third, if you examine the records you will find that Sherman had relatives in Georgia.

Interesting read, Info I didn't know. Where I am in MD they went with the UNION but many of them sided with the South. There is a plantation a few miles from me that does reenactments from the past at holidays, Halloween and Christmas.

http://www.sotterley.com/

[The Postman]

Forgiving Gen. Sherman is things, which I understand is a very decent thing for folks to do. I was trying to relate to the many and many a person, in Georgia, who told Gen. Sherman that the reasoning behind their forgiveness was based upon his promise to show their comrade's in South Carolina the utmost severities of WAR.

I am not criticizing my fellow countryman, like many people may understand me as doing, DR! There are more than one side of every story. JJ has helped to share the other side. I didn't know a few of the things he said.